Now, square that with this:Let me tell you something, it’s a very bad practice to walk up on stage and physically assault a Comedian.
— Kathy Griffin (@kathygriffin) March 28, 2022
Now we all have to worry about who wants to be the next Will Smith in comedy clubs and theaters.
— Kathy Griffin (@kathygriffin) November 4, 2020
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She's right. But it will be her Progressive friends that will be the ones being violent....as usual. She started the bad examples, and they haven't stopped yet.
POS Kathy Griffin, the most tedious, talentless "celebrity" since Sparky the Wonder Mole, being a POS once again.
Thanks, Althouse, for reminding me she isn't dead yet.
They seem consistent--the comedian should be able to say or do anything and the public has to shut up and take it. A position I at least somewhat agree with (at least while the comedian is on stage). My most significant departure from this position is in thinking that the comedian is being stupid if he/she doesn't realize and expect that some members of the public aren't going to shut up and take it.
Now, square that with this:
no problem! Trump was WORSE THAN HITLER! because He was a Republican
She's a round peg that can't be squared. Maybe Pi might work.
And yet the usual voices will still try to frame it as if the Left and the Right are mutually responsible for the collapse in civil discourse in our society while kindly paving over the very plain to see fact that Leftists have the Entertainment biz, AND the legacy media, AND Social Media, AND Big Tech, AND Academia, AND the Corporate Boardroom in a veritable, theocratic full Nelson.
And not one of them wants to come across as unilluminated, or unclean. Lest the guillotine of cancel culture seek them out next.
They've made Catholics seem lax, haha.
"It's different when *I* do it."
For hypocrite-hunters, a target-rich environment.
Will Smith upstaged himself wonderfully with that move. He sure showed Chris Rock a strong pimp hand. And nobody will ever look at him or his work the same way. As an actor, you must never break the fourth wall. And boy did he.
This narrow-assed ginger is quite the spokesperson for civility!
"D List" celebrities will do anything for attention. Anything. People without self-awareness, to include her and Biden, often put their feet in their mouths.
When such a person is not elected and has no power, the best strategy is to ignore, ignore, ignore. Without a reaction/celebrity events she'll have to get a real-world job that matches her marketable skills.
Public relations? Nursing? Lead a charity organization? Ombudsman? United Nations peace ambassador? ...
Punches vs props
Liberal hypocrisy? I'm shocked, shocked.
Kathy Griffin, Will Smith, and Chris Rock all have one thing in common: no controversy is too cringe worthy for self promotion...survival of the least shamed.
Staged on the stage.
If she has not sincerely apologised to the former president then I think your point is well taken. It doesn’t take away from the strength of her point about comedian's safety, or does it? Maybe give the lines to a fellow comedian to say? This is kind of a tough one for me because I believe strongly (as Trump might say) in redemption. Even for Will Smith, if he says and does all that is necessary for that kind of genuine forgiveness.
Easily squared - both gave her the attention she needs, like most of us need oxygen.
A man who insults another man's wife for her medical condition on national television deserves an ass whooping. It's good that Smith was man enough and husband enough to do his duty.
If I was the police chief responsible for the jurisdiction of the location where the Oscars were held, I would be making phone calls to Will Smith and Chris Rock. If they both agree that this was staged, then that would be the end of it. Otherwise I would arrest Smith and charge him with battery.
"If she has not sincerely apologised to the former president then I think your point is well taken."
I've embedded what is her *retweeting* of the picture, after she in fact had apologized, but she later rescinded the apology.
I'd say it's a hard time for comedians, and it is. But that has nothing to do with Kathy Griffin who has never been funny in her life. Pathetic, yes. Funny? Not before or after Trump. She's a non-talented person who works hard at being famous. And by that standard, she's done pretty well. But she has nothing to do with comedy.
But today comedy is tough because the Left, which owns social media and corporate media, is simply not funny. And they don't condone comedy.
"Now we all have to worry about who wants to be the next Will Smith in comedy clubs and theaters."
Check out the national crime stats at the Bureau of Justice Statistics, and you'll see who has to worry. Not comedians, as far as I can tell.
Without a reaction/celebrity events she'll have to get a real-world job that matches her marketable skills. Public relations? Nursing? Lead a charity organization? Ombudsman? United Nations peace ambassador? ...
Pole dancer in a Mennonite colony. She ain't got and they don't care.
Self-awareness is not a strong suit for the commie-pinko left. Too many example to count.
The only thing that moves the leftists is a will to power.
They have no principles and don't believe a thing they say.
Buncha losers. Play your parts, paint your paintings, sing your songs - and shut up. You are not our role models.
A Comedian!
Not a simple comedian she. She perches with capitalization.
Not sure what the presentation of her second tweet is supposed to represent. Did Trump charge the stage and slap her? If it was Melania's head would he have been lauded for it and perhaps comforted afterwards by Denzel Washington? Is a general insult toward a politician worth the same physical assault as a specific dig at a spouse? Does it set the same conditions?
So you're suggesting this is "civility bullshit?" (Where's the tag?)
Frankly I don't see her statement about Will Smith as having much to do with the infamous decapitation photo. That was just an example of a joke/statement that went way beyond the bounds of good taste. Granted, it seemed to be revealing of a hateful, intolerant mindset that can manifest itself in real violence in some cases (e.g., the guy who shot the GOP congressmen playing baseball). However, Kathy Griffin (or Sally Field, while we're at it) shouldn't be lumped together with actual violent people unless and until she does something that's actually violent. (Let's not buy into the left's "words are violence" nonsense.)
What Will Smith did constitutes actual violence in a situation that was COMPLETELY unjustified. Chris Rock was performing a comedy routine that poked a little fun at Jada Smith's tonsorial look. He didn't "insult" her; he really just teased her. But even if he had verbally insulted her, there was no justification for lashing out violently. KG is right to be concerned that, if Smith's response is excused or normalized, that presents a threat to comedians or any other kind of stage performer.
Comedy is dangerous. Live with it. Buff up, Katie.
Funny, how both Will and Jada laughed and laughed about the joke Regina Hall said about their open marriage...now THAT is funny stuff...just don't talk about her hair??? Upside down world. www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/03/strange-violent-actor-will-smith-smacked-chris-rock-mouth-joking-wifes-hair-laughed-joke-wifes-open-marriage-video/
Comedy Privilege. Trump's Comedian card was cancelled when he came down that escalator in 2015. After that, he became fair game, with the understanding that no retaliation was allowed. It's a secular sin to strike someone wearing a clown nose. Even John Wayne Gacy knew that.
Small point of difference: Chris Rock is funny, always has been, might always be so. Griffin is not. Her "humor" like Amy Schumer's revolves around her perpetual need to feel wanted in the face of rejection. Not enough variety in there to sustain interest. Even her head-waving performance was a "look-at-me! Like me! I hate the right people so like me" desperation on social media. Not funny. Like her lusting after Andy Cooper schtick that got her banned from CNN's NYE extravaganza, it's over the top stupidity in the guise of neediness.
I have enough needy people to deal with IRL to care about Griffin or laugh at her inanities. I also reject her panic attack over copycat crimes patterned after Smith's bitch-slap. Puh-leease! She'd be happy to have a crowd, even if they were lined up to slap her.
You couldn't slap the ugly off of her if you tried...
How predictably and publicly self-serving, which is pretty much Ms Griffin defined.
Although the circumstances of the Will-Slap were indefensible and not well-founded, I bet there are a lot of viewers out there who thought to themselves: "Finally - someone meets the consequences of their own actions and we get to see it in real time." There's a lot of that missing in modern society.
Is she a comedian or a comedienne?
Like actor or actress.
Or can anyone tell the difference these days?
I am not sure what needs to be squared. She did a gross, outrageous stunt -- but she didn't hurt Trump physically, or do anything that would have stopped him from speaking more, or getting his message out. Once we make it OK to either exercise the "heckler's veto" or start slapping and hitting people who say things that make us angry, it's going to keep getting harder and harder to stop.
I don't buy that her tacky photo was violence in any meaningful way.
What does she have to worry about? She's not a comedian.
The belief that you can abort the baby, cannibalize her profitable parts, sequester her carbon pollutants, and have her, too, is a social, political, religious ("ethical") myth, a double-edged scalpel.
Tripp I agree her stunt was non-violent, but that's not the standard for cancellation. After all, a rodeo clown was fired for wearing an Obama mask during an event. No words, no political commentary: a simple mask. But the clown had to be cancelled for disrespecting Obama. Can't we acncel her for an even more egregious POTUS insult?
Yes I spelled "cancel" wrong. Oops.
Two old-fashioned, chauvinist thoughts:
1. Will Smith’s actions are self-discrediting because only a bitch would slap another man.
2. If Donald Trump is not man enough to laugh off Kathy Griffin’s joke, he’s not man enough to be president.
Who whom.
I couldn't remember if Trump responded to the KG photograph. I know the Secret Service did. And TSA.
Anyway, he did:
"President Donald Trump lashed out at Kathy Griffin on Twitter early Wednesday, telling the caustic comedian that she "should be ashamed of herself" and think of "my children" for posing with a fake bloodied and decapitated head made in his likeness. "Kathy Griffin should be ashamed of herself. My children, especially my 11 year old son, Barron, are having a hard time with this. Sick!" Trump tweeted.
"First lady Melania Trump weighed in on the graphic image, saying that she found the images "very disturbing." "As a mother, a wife, and a human being, that photo is very disturbing," she said. "When you consider some of the atrocities happening in the world today, a photo opportunity like this is simply wrong and makes you wonder about the mental health of the person who did it.""
Imagine if Dennis Miller held up a bloodied head of Obama?? What do YOU think would have happened in America??? Would you still consider THAT non-violent, or is it only Trump that that is unviolent for??
Imagine if Dennis Miller held up a bloodied head of Obama??
Like Trump, the man with the perfectly creased pants would have squealed like a little bitch.
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