October 25, 2016

"Can you believe someone would put that many Trump signs so close together on our roads? It’s so rude. Who is this jerk?"

That's Betta Stothart — a writer and publicist living in Falmouth, Maine — describing — in The Washington Post — what she and "a bunch of moms" were thinking as they were "grousing about" the proliferation of "Donald Trump signs along our version of Main Street." She says:
We felt assaulted by the number of signs. The idea of "cleansing" our streets seemed like the fastest way to restore balance and alleviate our election stress — at least, that night it did.

The escapade was not premeditated: We simply jumped into my Jetta wagon, drove down to the strip and got to work. In all, it took less than 20 minutes. 
That is premeditated, lady. You discussed it in a group, and you had to get in the car — I call bullshit on "jumped" — and drive to another location, and you engaged in an activity that took 20 minutes.
We grabbed about 40 signs and threw them in the hatchback. I hadn’t really thought about what I would do with the signs; I just wanted them gone. At the time, we believed we were doing the right thing. There were so many Trump signs up and down our main drag — it was destroying all sense of equilibrium in our community.
Equilibrium!

Anyway, they got caught by the police. Is that any surprise? They were doing something that took 20 minutes! 
The officer was kind, informing us that we had stolen someone else’s personal property, which had not really entered into my mind while I was doing it.
How could it not enter your mind that the signs belonged to someone else? She describes her mind as the mind of an insane person: Someone else's speech was assaulting her mind and destroying all sense of equilibrium, as if she had to protect the inside of her own head where she never dreamed anyone else could own property. But it wasn't really only in her own head, as the policeman kindly informed her.
Reflecting back, I realize that I momentarily snapped. 
Temporary insanity. For 20+ minutes.
But there was a deeper reason for my anger than just the signs. 
Yes, your anger is deep... in a way that makes it moral, flips it into the good:
Over the past several weeks, grasping the depth of Trump’s predatory behavior toward women throughout his adult life (and even worse, his denial of it) has simply become unbearable. I became unhinged.
She's running with this I-was-literally-crazy argument. But Trump is worse, because he assaulted women. As if she were protecting women by stealing signs. Stothart proceeds to tell her personal story of "a powerful man using his position of wealth and influence to demean my integrity and put my job at risk."
[O]ne day, he called to proposition me to enter an illicit “relationship” with him where he would fly me around the world to exclusive resorts. For sex.

“You’re not the marrying type of woman,” he told me. “I never see you having a family of your own, so I have an offer for you.” He described how good he was in bed. I wouldn’t regret it, he said. It would be “our little secret” and “worth my while.”
So a man at work asked you out? How is that like the stories of Trump and sexual assault? He didn't impose himself any more than asking her out — on a huge date, to be sure (who gets asked on dates of that magnitude?) — he took her statement that she "needed 'to think about it'" as a basis to withdraw the offer.
I should have told him to go to hell. Instead, I told my boyfriend (now husband) about it and buried the secret. I was silenced, until now.
Why would someone who refused a sexual invitation feel she had a "secret" that needed to be told? If she really believed this rich and powerful person has a modus operandi that unfairly burdens women in the workplace, she should have spoken up for the sake of the other women. How was she "silenced"? She's raising this story now to bolster her claim of some sort of a temporary insanity defense to a crime that she plainly admits she committed — a crime not only against property but against another citizen's freedom of speech. She's trying to flip herself up onto the moral high ground.

She has a "source of my rage" she says, and: "It’s why I committed a crime. Yes, I was acting out... But at the time, my act felt strangely liberating..." It's like the generic formula for a fictional criminal character. Something long ago made him very angry, and when he finally burst free into outright transgression, he felt, at long last, liberated. That works in murder stories. That would work for terrorists. In fiction.

Stothart also takes refuge in the time-honored I'm-not-the-only-one defense, discovered by every child that ever got caught red-handed:
As I prepare for a mid-December appearance before a judge in the Cumberland County Courthouse, I am realizing that I’m not the only one going to extremes this fall. There have been Trump sign thefts in Maine and Massachusetts. Trump supporters’ cars were actually vandalized recently in Bangor. Violence at campaign events is now commonplace, and worse, a bomb went off in a North Carolina Republican Party office. The level of agitation — and fear — is rising daily, on both sides.
But, like a good, old-fashioned, square Hollywood movie, this story ends with a crime-does-not-pay message: "It’s not worth it."

But would it have been worth it if she hadn't been caught? And will it become worth it if the Cumberland County judge looks at this nice lady — who had a bad day and expressed herself so feelingly in a high-tone newspaper — and that judge says: Good thing you learned what you did was wrong, and now, don't do that again?

179 comments:

gerry said...

That women is fucked up. Really fucked up. And when I see a fucked up woman, I call her fucked up. And she is fucked up.

Xmas said...

A corollary. Michael Moore on why Trump is the biggest Eff You Vote in human history. (NSFW language)

Brando said...

Ugh--people like this are almost enough to make me want to support Trump out of spite, except that people like this should have no influence on me whatsoever.

And taking down Trump's signs isn't "scoring one against Trump"--yard signs make absolutely no difference in a high-visibility presidential election, no one drives by and says "oh that's who's running, I should vote for them!"--but it is violating your neighbor's space. So you don't like who they support? Deal with it, it's America last time I checked. And ripping off someone's yard sign is only going to make them more likely to vote, or donate money to the campaign you hate so much.

We have Trump signs in front of some houses in my neighborhood. I'd never even consider taking one down, and not out of respect for Trump. It's because I'd prefer living in a civil society where we respect one another's property and right to expression.

Ignorance is Bliss said...

There have been Trump sign thefts in Maine and Massachusetts. Trump supporters’ cars were actually vandalized recently in Bangor. Violence at campaign events is now commonplace, and worse, a bomb went off in a North Carolina Republican Party office. The level of agitation — and fear — is rising daily, on both sides.

If it is rising on both sides then how come every incident that comes to your mind points in the same direction?

Brando said...

And tell a guy to go to hell because he asked you out? Sounds like he's the one who dodged the bullet, and your boyfriend (now husband) thinks about that every day, as he pays court fees for his crazy wife to defend herself for ripping off road signs.

Basil said...

Liberalism is a mental disorder. It stops people from thinking logically and it detaches consequences from actions.

Wilbur said...

In the movies, when someone gets hysterical like that you slap them to startle them out of it.

Any volunteers?

damikesc said...

Over the past several weeks, grasping the depth of Trump’s predatory behavior toward women throughout his adult life (and even worse, his denial of it) has simply become unbearable. I became unhinged.

Odds are that she'll be voting for the woman who enabled a man who did markedly worse to more women.

The level of agitation — and fear — is rising daily, on both sides. But, like a good, old-fashioned, square Hollywood movie, this story ends with a crime-does-not-pay message: "It’s not worth it."

As has been noted, the vandalism and thefts of Democrat stuff seems pretty muted. For something occurring on both sides, the evidence of it occurring on both sides seems very lacking.

She is a gestapo member. She will HAPPILY stomp on somebody's head to protect your feelings. No better than a Nazi at this point.

Laslo Spatula said...

Althouse, earlier:

"You might falsely claim that 2 things are identical, but if you are just putting 2 things side by side and saying they are similar when there are also differences, you don't deserve to be accused of falsehood. "

Betta Stothart:

"The level of agitation — and fear — is rising daily, on both sides."

I am Laslo.

damikesc said...

And tell a guy to go to hell because he asked you out? Sounds like he's the one who dodged the bullet, and your boyfriend (now husband) thinks about that every day, as he pays court fees for his crazy wife to defend herself for ripping off road signs.

No joke. Do feminists not realize how bat-shit crazy they sound? A guy asked you out for sex, you said no --- and he's a monster? Now I see why car salespeople don't like dealing with women. Most are fine, but you get the occasional lunatic like her.

Birches said...

And yet she was never triggered by Bill Clinton? Weird...

damikesc said...

There's been some hand-wringing for years that men don't seem interested in marriage. It's because most men have had experiences with women like this and it makes marriage way less palatable of an option.

I can marry a fucking lunatic, she goes crazy, and I lose my kids, my house, etc. Yeah, GREAT plan.

Feminism has turned many Western women into women no man in their right mind would remotely contemplate marrying.

traditionalguy said...

We are entering crunch time. Many people who are unwilling to vote for Hillary are just now facing what that means. They are either voting for Trump like he is a bitter medicine, or they are pretending to go funny farm and vote for a 1%er as therapy.

OK, Trump is bitter medicine. And no one has to like the taste of an antibiotic that saves their lives. Just take it anyway.

Ann Althouse said...

@Laslo 9:49 AM

I know. And yet I couldn't say "false equivalence," because I've come out against it.

I'll just say "weak comparison."

mockturtle said...

Gross rationalization seems to be a common thought pattern in Prog females.

holdfast said...

"grasping the depth of Trump’s predatory behavior toward women throughout his adult life (and even worse, his denial of it) has simply become unbearable."

And yet you just KNOW she'd go full Nina Burleigh on Bill Clinton in a heartbeat - assuming he'd have her decrepit old azz.

Ignorance is Bliss said...

mockturtle said...

Gross rationalization seems to be a common thought pattern in Prog females.

Gross rationalization is common to all. Liberals lack impulse control, and thus have more opportunity to rationalize what they've already done.

buwaya puti said...

This class of emotional justification is typically used in public policy arguments and, very significantly, in decisions in all sorts of regulatory controversies.

It is the standard smokescreen strategy to apply a public rationale for imposing or tightening regulations of all kinds.

This lady was just being unofficial about it, but she has hordes of sisters working within official channels.

My name goes here. said...

"The level of agitation — and fear — is rising daily, on both sides."

Yeah, both sides.

Just keep in mind that protesters were beaten bloody so that this woman could have the right to vote. Susan B would be so proud.

Laslo Spatula said...

@Althouse"

Using italics for the tile of this post: a conscious decision, implying a tone, or just happenstance?

I am Laslo.

Laslo Spatula said...

Title, not tile.

I am Laslo.

Scott said...

"I was silenced, until now." By whom? It's a strange way of saying "I didn't say anything until now." So many SJWs express themselves as if they can't control or take responsibility for their own actions or thoughts.

AprilApple said...

Let me tell you how leftists feel: Entitled. Leftists feel like Democrats should run unopposed. Like beloved dictators.

Bob said...

But it's OK, because she just loves Obama.

(Long ago, I never used to question the wisdom of the 19th Amendment. Now I question it every day.)

Rob said...

The important thing is that the author and her friends "felt assaulted." We must honor their reality. Pity the Maine law doesn't allow for jail time so we could honor them for ninety days or so.

Todd said...

As I prepare for a mid-December appearance before a judge in the Cumberland County Courthouse, I am realizing that I’m not the only one going to extremes this fall. There have been Trump sign thefts in Maine and Massachusetts. Trump supporters’ cars were actually vandalized recently in Bangor. Violence at campaign events is now commonplace, and worse, a bomb went off in a North Carolina Republican Party office. The level of agitation — and fear — is rising daily, on both sides.

Starting to sound a lot like the Insta line "CAIR reps worry about anti-Muslim backlash from tomorrow's terrorist attack". Here we have "EVERYONE is fearful [about Democrat violence]." I don't see any Democrats or Liberals worried about Bernie and Hillary signs getting stolen or their cars getting keyed or getting beat up at events. No, but they are "so afraid". If they really feared the right like they claim to fear the right, they would not say and do what they say and do. That is how you know they are not. Just like the environmental folks that jet-set all over the world for conferences. If they really though the world was about to end, they would stay home.

Achilles said...

"Over the past several weeks, grasping the depth of Trump’s predatory behavior toward women throughout his adult life (and even worse, his denial of it) has simply become unbearable. I became unhinged."

Anyone supporting Hillary is unhinged morally and unless you are one of her puppet masters or cronies unhinged cognitively.

Achilles said...


Blogger Ann Althouse said...
@Laslo 9:49 AM

I know. And yet I couldn't say "false equivalence," because I've come out against it.

I'll just say "weak comparison."

You mean comparing Bill and Hillary's actual crimes to the alleged BS they are digging up on Trump?

Ann Althouse said...

"Using italics for the tile of this post: a conscious decision, implying a tone, or just happenstance?"

Meade asked the same question.

1. The material excerpted for the post title is in italics in the original column.

2. It's a use of italics that I've seen in novels and that I have adopted as my convention on this blog, which is that italics are used to designate thoughts, where the thoughts purport to be written out verbatim like a spoken word or a written quote. For spoken and written quotes, quotation marks are conventional, but there's something that feels wrong in using quote marks for what was never more than an internal monologue.

wildswan said...

The article is a Portrait of a Current Feminist - stupid and cowardly.

Bill Clinton said to Hillary:
I know you'll never get married but if you pretend with me so I can be predatory with any woman I like but have a shielding "marriage" for my political career then I'll fly you around the world and help you also have a political career which you could never get on your own. Deal? OK.

And now, Maine feminist, go out and vote for Hillary because you are too stupid to see what she is letting Bill do to women and and too afraid of your liberal friends' criticism to say anything if you did notice. Talk about Trump, that's OK, just don't let your mind slide by accident to Slick Willy's willy. Or we'll tell your friends that you support Trump.

Bruce Hayden said...

Love how she cites a bunch of violence on her side of the debate, and then concludes that everyone does it. No - the violence and destruction this election cycle has been remarkably one sided. That doesn't, of course, consider the triggering effect of yard signs on her pea brain showing how emotional and idiotic she is. I do think that essentially claiming that seeing Trump signs is equivalent in terms of violence to knocking down old people wearing Trump shirts, or destroying cars with Trump bumper stickers is a false equivalency of the worst sort. It is not just weak - it is completely false (and unhinged).

Unknown said...

Leftists really don't believe in free speech and "I may disagree with what you say, but I will defend your right to say it!" Now it's "I disagree with you and I shall punish you for saying it!"

--Vance

Jake said...

She admitted the crime; took 40 signs and should be fined $250 per sign as provided in the statute she cited. A $10,000 fine seems a fair punishment.

Achilles said...

Blogger My name goes here. said...
"The level of agitation — and fear — is rising daily, on both sides."

Yeah, both sides.

Agititation is rising on both sides but the left has organized and carried out the only violence.

They are going to get a wake up call when they are treated like we have been treated.

Bill Peschel said...

Why does this Sarah Lawrence-educated terrorist hate free speech? Or is that a redundant question?

Paul said...

Think the woman will MOVE OUT OF THE COUNTRY if Trump is elected?

No?

Me neither.

wildswan said...

The article by the Maine Feminist is a Portrait of a Current Feminist, not the commentary which is Hair-raisingly Heretical Feminism 2016

Curious George said...

"Brando said...
We have Trump signs in front of some houses in my neighborhood. I'd never even consider taking one down, and not out of respect for Trump. It's because I'd prefer living in a civil society where we respect one another's property and right to expression."

Well aren't you something.

ddh said...

"I was silenced, until now."

In grammar, that construction is known as the passive-aggressive voice.

WisRich said...

Why do liberals hate free speech so much.

Virgil Hilts said...

So if I was single and a wealthy woman with whom I worked:

"called to proposition me to enter an illicit “relationship” with [her] where [she] would fly me around the world to exclusive resorts. For sex.

“You’re not the marrying type of [man],” [she] told me. “I never see you having a family of your own, so I have an offer for you.” [She] described how good [she] was in bed. I wouldn’t regret it, [she] said. It would be “our little secret” and “worth my while.”

Hmmmm, it just does seem like this would be such a traumatic experience, but maybe there are guys here who have actually experience this and felt cheap and humiliated.

SGT Ted said...

"I was silenced, until now."

"I prefer not to take responsibility for myself and pretend I have no agency, so I can play the poor, little woman victim card, again and again. It's great foe emotional manipulation."

Todd said...

Virgil Hilts said...

“You’re not the marrying type of [man],” [she] told me. “I never see you having a family of your own, so I have an offer for you.” [She] described how good [she] was in bed. I wouldn’t regret it, [she] said. It would be “our little secret” and “worth my while.”

10/25/16, 10:29 AM


I am NOT just a piece of meat for your personal amusement!

Oh, and my eyes are up here Missy...

SGT Ted said...

"called to proposition me to enter an illicit “relationship” with [her] where [she] would fly me around the world to exclusive resorts. For sex."

Oh horrors! She had a man who wanted to be her sugar daddy. I'm sure it was so traumatic.

Talk about a humblebrag!

Brando said...

"Well aren't you something."

I couldn't help it, a bald eagle flew by while I wrote it.

Paul Snively said...

damikesc: Feminism has turned many Western women into women no man in their right mind would remotely contemplate marrying.

In particular, American women.

The scene: a healthy-crunchy restaurant near Apple Computer, Inc. HQ in the early 90s. A recently-divorced 6'4" me walks in to grab lunch. A young Asian (short) woman is struggling to hang a blackboard with the day's specials from a pair of hooks on the ceiling. I simply take the blackboard and hoist it onto the hooks. A nearby server whose name tag indicates that she's Irish (the restaurant apparently hosts foreign workers) says, in a beautiful brogue, "Isn't it nice having a man around?"

The sex relations environment, which I've at that point recently re-entered, is so overwhelmingly toxic that I'm thunderstruck to hear any woman who isn't some caricature of a 1950s housewife say such a thing. Unfortunately, as far as I can tell from my son's experiences over the years, things have not improved. (Thankfully, his self-confidence is such that he eventually met a brilliant, charming, beautiful young woman who he's been with for almost seven years, and is now engaged to.)

dbp said...

"and worse, a bomb went off in a North Carolina Republican Party office."

Just like when a tree fell on my shed. No. Someone bombed the Republican Party office. My bet is that this someone is roughly as in touch with reality as our Betta Stothart.

Anthony said...

What's that they say? Fascism is always descending on the Republican party but always lands on Democrats.

YoungHegelian said...

"Your honor, I know what I did was wrong. But, I woke up with my knees really hurting from my tours in Iraq, & I looked out the window, & there was this group of women in my yard tearing out my Trump signs! I looked out & those women reminded me of my goddamn ex-wife, that entitled bitch, who divorced me after she fucked her boss, leaving me & taking the kid with her. I just lost it, your honor. I grabbed the AR-15, slammed in a high-capacity magazine, ran out to the yard, and just started firing. I just kept firing until the magazine was empty.

And then I looked in horror at what I had done. My Trump signs! They were all covered in blood & barely readable. They were ruined. In my rage, I had destroyed what I had tried to save. It's was just like in 'Nam, your honor -- We had to destroy the village to save it.

What I have done will forever weigh on my conscience, your honor. That's it. I got no more to say."

I still ain't Laslo.

Sydney said...

She must have a friend at the The Washington Post. Hard to understand otherwise why they would publish such a lame attempt at self justification.

Todd said...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RA1eBCiRTzk

AllenS said...

I've had 2 Trump signs stolen. You can't steal any Hillary signs, because there isn't any.

CWJ said...

I wondered why the Washngton Post would promote this local story to national attention. I still do. When I saw this was self written, I wondered what she was hoping to communicate. I think I found it in the final paragraph.

"Find a healthy way to express your outrage."

No questioning the outrage itself. Just don't be a brownshirt about it. Alrighty then.

Since I'm in a wondering mood, I wonder what her publicity strategy is when she has her publicist hat on.

Henry said...

I've found footage of the ladies right here.

Hammond X. Gritzkofe said...

As happens surprisingly often at Althouse, the first commentatorist nailed it.

F said...

"Over the past several weeks, grasping the depth of Trump’s predatory behavior toward women throughout his adult life (and even worse, his denial of it) has simply become unbearable. I became unhinged."

It seems to me there are two possible reasons Trump might deny the predatory behavior he is being charged with: because he's trying to avoid the consequences or BECAUSE THE CHARGES ARE FALSE. I don't know which reason applies, but I'll grant him the possibility that the second reason is the case. Did our nonjudgmental sign-stealer consider that a possibility?

She does not come out of this situation covered in glory. If anything, she sounds unhinged.

Todd said...

YoungHegelian said...
"Your honor, I know what I did was wrong. But, I woke up with my knees really hurting from my tours in Iraq, & I looked out the window, & there was this group of women in my yard tearing out my Trump signs! I looked out & those women reminded me of my goddamn ex-wife, that entitled bitch, who divorced me after she fucked her boss, leaving me & taking the kid with her. I just lost it, your honor. I grabbed the AR-15, slammed in a high-capacity magazine, ran out to the yard, and the gun just went off. It just kept firing until the magazine was empty.

And then I looked in horror at what it had done. My Trump signs! They were all covered in blood & barely readable. They were ruined..

What was done will forever weigh on my conscience, your honor. That's it. I got no more to say."

I still ain't Laslo.

10/25/16, 10:44 AM


Fixed it for you. You were showing too much agency...

Henry said...

Here's footage of the Jetta.

Rick said...

Trump supporters’ cars were actually vandalized recently in Bangor.

Not only in Bangor:

http://nbc4i.com/2016/10/21/police-drunk-woman-mistakes-meeting-for-trump-rally-smears-peanut-butter-on-cars/

Plus now we know what garage mahal has been up to.

JPS said...

AllenS:

" You can't steal any Hillary signs, because there isn't any."

Her supporters must have been silenced. Until now.

MadisonMan said...

This woman sounds like a hellish neighbor. It's unfortunate she cannot be jailed for this. I do like the idea of a $250 fine for each sign removed.

cubanbob said...

Jake said...
She admitted the crime; took 40 signs and should be fined $250 per sign as provided in the statute she cited. A $10,000 fine seems a fair punishment."

Yes that should be the punishment. $10,000 in fines would knock sense in to her head.

Ron Winkleheimer said...

Yeah, I'm calling bullshit on this:

[O]ne day, he called to proposition me to enter an illicit “relationship” with him where he would fly me around the world to exclusive resorts. For sex.

I don't believe that happened. Not the way she is presenting it. My guess, if anything happened at all, (after all, it does sound like something out of a romance novel) is that she got upset when she found out that the relationship wasn't exclusive. Or he dumped her after a couple of trysts.

After all, this guy is "rich and powerful." Rich and powerful guys generally have wives that look like Melania. Does Betta Stothart look like a super model? No, she does not.

coupe said...

We have a large frontage on our neighborhood, and people love to post signs. Every night I take Pepe for a walk and pull all the signs I find. If there's more than two, I just throw them at the corner, and then come back and pick them up with my truck.

I do this after sunset. I do it quickly and without witness.

Even though we've had our neighborhood frontage registered as a Park (you get all sorts of perks) I would be in my right to remove them, as we have zero tolerance for signage not approved by our secretary.

However, as an ex-soldier, I know the best operations are those that no one witnesses, as you don't want revenge.

I take all the signs down to the railroad tracks and dump them. I know there are no cameras there.

If you are going to be a terrorist, at least do it smart. She could have made two passes - pulled all the signs, waited an hour and then gathered them up. But no, she decided to be stupid about it.

Also, Trump is only alleged to like women. There is no proof he ever had sex with a woman, and there is no DNA evidence. All his children could be illegal immigrants, and he could be homosexual.

mccullough said...

In my experience, this is typical behavior for a VW Jetta owner.

SteveR said...

We clearly see the depth of thought that describes many, if not most, Clinton voters.

Sam L. said...

Lefties are SO self-absorbed. And intolerant. And ferociously opposed to any opposition they may meet.

Ron Winkleheimer said...

So, my guess is the "rich and powerful" guy offered to take her on a 3 day cruise in the Caribbean leaving out of Miami.

Mick said...

Why Trump?

Because F#*CK YOU!!!!!!!!!

Todd said...

Ron Winkleheimer said... [hush]​[hide comment]
So, my guess is the "rich and powerful" guy offered to take her on a 3 day cruise in the Caribbean leaving out of Miami.

10/25/16, 11:09 AM


Or a little "slap and tickle" behind the 7/11 in "not a Jetta"?

wildswan said...

"All [Trump's] children could be illegal immigrants, and he could be homosexual."

And anyhow, he could claim it to be so part of the time and make other claims at other times [Albanian-Mexican lesbian; North Korean-Hispanic Metro) and thus end identity politics and bring us together.

YoungHegelian said...

@Ron W,

Yeah, I'm calling bullshit on this:

... After all, this guy is "rich and powerful." Rich and powerful guys generally have wives that look like Melania. Does Betta Stothart look like a super model? No, she does not.


Okay, this next assertion is my rather limited anecdotal data, so take it for what it's worth: My experience is that both genders lie at about the same rate, which is a lot, because lies, good & bad, are a necessary social lubricant.

But then there are fabulists, people who spin stories out of whole cloth, & maintain them consistently over a period of time. In my experience, fabulists tend by a large margin to be female. If they're male, they tend to be working a con of some sort, & when the con is done, the story vanishes with it. For the women, it's like they're building this alternate reality to project to those around them, & they really work at maintaining it.

Like I say -- my experience. I'll be happy to stand corrected on this by any real psychological data on the phenomenon.

Todd Galle said...

As for Clinton signs, they have been noticeably absent in my neighborhood in South Central PA. Then, all of a sudden, light dandelions or mushrooms in the yard, all over the place. Although, I do note that most are paired with a plea from our local teachers union regarding upcoming contract negotiations. The signs were probably all handed out at a recent union meeting or something. I also collect political memorabilia, but always wait until after the election to take yard signs on public property. It's a win-win, I get something for my collection, and I help clean up the motorways.

mccullough said...

Betta in the Jetta
Stole Trump signs
To oppose The Predator
Who propositioned her
And to stop the hate
Of Make America Great Again
But now it wasn't worth it
Because she has a court date
But hopes by then
That Hillary's win
Absolves her sin
And ends in a fine
That isn't surfeit.


Just_Mike_S said...

"...we jumped into my Jetta wagon..." 'nuff said.

RichardJohnson said...

From the article:
Violence at campaign events is now commonplace, and worse, a bomb went off in a North Carolina Republican Party office. The level of agitation — and fear — is rising daily, on both sides.
Reply from "Ignorance is Bliss:"
If it is rising on both sides then how come every incident that comes to your mind points in the same direction?

Because the Trumpies made the Demos do it, doncha' know?

FullMoon said...

Scott Adams is voting for Trump, and predicts a landslide. Partially because of this type of bullying behavior.

I’ve been trying to figure out what common trait binds Clinton supporters together. As far as I can tell, the most unifying characteristic is a willingness to bully in all its forms.

If you have a Trump sign in your lawn, they will steal it.

If you have a Trump bumper sticker, they will deface your car.

if you speak of Trump at work you could get fired.

On social media, almost every message I get from a Clinton supporter is a bullying type of message. They insult. They try to shame. They label. And obviously they threaten my livelihood.

We know from Project Veritas that Clinton supporters tried to incite violence at Trump rallies. The media downplays it.

We also know Clinton’s side hired paid trolls to bully online. You don’t hear much about that....etc
http://blog.dilbert.com/post/152293480726/the-bully-party

Rob said...

I don't know if electing Trump would be good for the country, but it would be four years of pure agony for the writers at the New York Times, the editorial board of The New Yorker, the political science departments of American universities and Ms. Betta Stothart. That may be reason enough.

harkin said...

Remember the most important thing about this vile column......she's just an useful idiot but the Washington Post editors thought getting Hillary elected is important enough to reward vandalism and theft.

It would not surprise me at all if Ms. Stothart is either employed by the Dems in the future and/or somehow paid for this garbage.

Considering the way the Clintons have represented the American people, I guess this is just following form.

And watching the "truthiness" party exposed as the party of vandalism, theft and denial of the 1st Amendment would be hilarious if the implications were not so scary....they no longer even make excuses or ignore, they endorse!

walter said...

Blogger Brando said...And tell a guy to go to hell because he asked you out?
--
Actually, when confronted by said highly offensive proposition, she told him she would "think about it".

So were the other moms suffering from similar triggered memories?

Fred Drinkwater said...

"Trump’s predatory behavior toward women throughout his adult life (and even worse, his denial of it)"

"even worse, his denial of it"

I think the court should take notice of any Not Guilty plea she enters, and increase the charge and penalty accordingly. It's what she expects, after all.

(Many moons ago, a caller to Car Talk was describing an episode of egregious driving behavior, when Tom or Ray said "Lemme guess. He was driving a Jetta?" Which turned out to be The case. this agrees with my experience - there was a long period a decode or so ago when it seemed every bad driver on the road was in a Jetta.)

walter said...

By the way, is the label "moms" helpful to her? ;)

coupe said...

This story shows exactly why no one can get a fair trial in America.

This woman, obviously believes everything she reads. Her poor daughter is probably fucked for life, and she never even mentions the husband, other than to say she is allegedly "married."

"Allegedly" used to mean something in America, now it removed for editorial expedient.

She is exactly what ambulance chaser lawyers are looking for in a jury.

Fred Drinkwater said...

Scott Adams has made some interesting postings recently about his likely shadowbanning and / or censorship on Twitter and Periscope.

walter said...

She can sit down and write all that as if Clinton Inc had no track record regarding abuse of women...opting instead to post a sign to elect one of them.
True hysteria.

harkin said...

The money shot was this human snowflake saying that people living near her peacefully expressing their first amendment rights was "destroying all sense of equilibrium" in the community.

ALP said...

TRIGGER WARNING needed - argh! I just got over the story about members of my gender getting their yoga pants in a bunch over that guy who wrote "women over 20 shouldn't wear yoga pants" in a tiny local paper:

https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2016/10/23/yoga-pants-parade-happens/QmHlXqmxuSBYTJDmvwJnLO/story.html

Because women in yoga pants need...support or something.

I am beginning to warm up to the idea of transitioning from female to male I am so damn tired of being in the same gender category as nitwits like this woman.

Ron Winkleheimer said...

But then there are fabulists, people who spin stories out of whole cloth, & maintain them consistently over a period of time.

She strikes me as that sort. The need to create drama and the craving for attention is usually an indicator, in my experience at least.

Writ Small said...

"But I was really, really mad" is not much of an excuse is it? That woman and Trump true believers have more in common than they'd ever admit.

Achilles said...

ALP said...

"Because women in yoga pants need...support or something."

This is true on so many levels.

Women in the United States have achieved unprecedented freedom and equality never seen before in history and this was afforded to them in large part through the sacrifice and benevolence of men mostly in the military and police forces.

The obvious open ended question is What are women doing with this opportunity?

Gahrie said...

Repeal the 19th Amendment

Achilles said...

Writ Small said...
"But I was really, really mad" is not much of an excuse is it? That woman and Trump true believers have more in common than they'd ever admit.

Most Trump supporters freely admit we are really, really mad.

The similarities end there.

I Have Misplaced My Pants said...


I am beginning to warm up to the idea of transitioning from female to male I am so damn tired of being in the same gender category as nitwits like this woman.

Amen to that, sister.

Evidently we have horseshoe effect in full swing: we've transitioned back around to women being, due to their delicate and excitable natures, wholly unfit to participate in public life. For the time being, public life is being bent around the sensibilities of these poor little dears, but that can't last forever. I suspect pushback will be severe, when it occurs.

I Have Misplaced My Pants said...

I liked it a lot better when feminism meant you're tough enough to ignore the haters, honey; don't let anyone break your stride.

TreeJoe said...

Comment I should have left on the WP website:

"This article could only have been written by a privileged white woman bragging about her ability to commit a crime and walk away from it with a minor dent in her bank account. A crime which would have resulted in a black man being left shot dead by the police.

I am triggered by this contra-classist screed and vile pride in privilege, loftily promoted by the washington post. I feel personally threatened after reading this and will be asking my fellow protesters to join me in demanding a retraction, the resignation of the editor, and a suitable donation and establishment of an anti-media-privilege working group.

Until such demands are met, you can expect non-violent protesting outside of your offices including peaceful protesting during rush hour on local major highways. We are not responsible for any destruction of property adjacent to our civil disobedience.

And, as the article points out, because this article made me feel this way I am therefore wholly justified in my actions and prompting of others to take such actions."

damikesc said...

In particular, American women.

I said Western because I see little reason to suspect young Western European women are appreciably less obnoxious to deal with.

Are guys great? No, probably not. But men improve when they have a reason to do so. When the women available in their age range are utterly impossible to marry, then their need to improve is deteriorated. Not even discussing the whoring-it-up issue that is still prevalent in culture in spite of the neo-Puritans on college campuses. Just the attitude and behavior of a fair number of college women makes marriage a nightmare. Who wants a woman who expects chivalry but doesn't hold up HER end up the bargain with that?

I married a Southern women who did not go to college. Compared to the college grads I dated, she is brilliant and totally sane.

Just like when a tree fell on my shed. No. Someone bombed the Republican Party office. My bet is that this someone is roughly as in touch with reality as our Betta Stothart.

You know, this stuff is making me skeptical that this is happening on both sides.

damikesc said...

Evidently we have horseshoe effect in full swing: we've transitioned back around to women being, due to their delicate and excitable natures, wholly unfit to participate in public life. For the time being, public life is being bent around the sensibilities of these poor little dears, but that can't last forever. I suspect pushback will be severe, when it occurs.

No joke. If I ran a college, I'd tell the feminists that the college will mandate a required chaperone for any romantic dates between opposite- or same-sex couples. It is always amusing to see people learn that maybe things were always done a certain way in the past for a REASON. They always just say "Man, that's stupid" and seem unable to comprehend the reasoning behind it.

Who'd have thought fucking men all willy-nilly and becoming irritating in the process might make men less anxious to marry? Besides every single critic of the Sexual Revolution, I mean.

damikesc said...

Women in the United States have achieved unprecedented freedom and equality never seen before in history and this was afforded to them in large part through the sacrifice and benevolence of men mostly in the military and police forces.

The obvious open ended question is What are women doing with this opportunity?


I've had arguments over work over this stuff. We are big on "empowering girls to pursue education". You get filthy looks when you mention "Hey, boys finish high school far less often than girls, kill themselves more often, go to college way less frequently than girls, and graduate way less than girls. Perhaps girls aren't the ones who need the empowering at this point"

Tyrone Slothrop said...

And here you have the danger of letting liberals run things. They have long ago decided, en masse, that they are so fucking right about everything that none of the constraints of a civil society apply to them. Think Trump's supporters are wrong? Beat 'em up. Egg them. Cops will stand by and watch. Think cops shouldn't be shooting your thug children? Riot, and burn down your town. Obama will send a team from DOJ to support you. Don't like a pipeline on land that has nothing to do with you? Burn millions of dollars of other peoples' property. Nothing will happen to you. Of course this only works in one direction. Anybody who fights back is a domestic terrorist.

Achilles said...

damikesc said...
Evidently we have horseshoe effect in full swing: we've transitioned back around to women being, due to their delicate and excitable natures, wholly unfit to participate in public life. For the time being, public life is being bent around the sensibilities of these poor little dears, but that can't last forever. I suspect pushback will be severe, when it occurs.

Is it any wonder Hillary wants more Muslims in the US? The progressives in Europe already imported their new chaperones to take care of all those flighty idiot women and they are getting an education in how to be a proper sharia woman.

furious_a said...

Many people who are unwilling to vote for Hillary are just now facing what that means. They are either voting for Trump like he is a bitter medicine...

I'll stipulate for arguments' sake that Trump is everything they he is. I'll even ignore Her Unsecured Server Highness. Against that I'll stack the Star-Wars-Cantina cluttle of bag-men, hustlers, grifters, fixers, goons, thugs, and lifers about whom we've been reading about for almost 30 years (Blumenthal, Magaziner, Podesta, Mills, McAuliffe, Tony and Hugh Rodham) that Hillary's rotten drift-net of co-mingled and sham-charity public-and-private pay-for-play will drag back to D.C. and into power over us...

...Not a hard choice, really -- it's like that spoonful of sugar to help the bitter medicine go down.

MrCharlie2 said...

Gosh, I'm sure this self-righteous person would see tearing up Hillary signs as an obvious criminal act.

Personally, I have 2 Hillary signs on my lawn. People up and down the street have Hillary and Trump signs. Haven't noticed any being removed or defaced. Hope no one catches what she's got.

Yancey Ward said...

This part was really hilarious:

"There have been Trump sign thefts in Maine and Massachusetts. Trump supporters’ cars were actually vandalized recently in Bangor. Violence at campaign events is now commonplace, and worse, a bomb went off in a North Carolina Republican Party office. The level of agitation — and fear — is rising daily, on both sides (emphasis added by Y.W)."

Notice how all of the listed incidents were violence, theft, or vandalism against Trump supporters- all of them. That is a sure indication of agitation and fear rising on "both sides". Sheesh!

furious_a said...

Why couldn't the nice ladies have, you know, put up lawn signs of their own?

HoodlumDoodlum said...

Of course she's not responsible for her actions: she's a woman.
And anyway her actions were motivated by a desire to do good, and she's on the Left fighting the non-Left, so that's what's important.

Yancey Ward said...

Lol, I see Ignorance is Bliss saw the same the thing!

Karen said...

Ann, this is the kind of thing that will happen more and more as people feel obligated to police the speech and thoughts of others. That's what the whole last eight years has been about and it will be this way the next eight years but even more so under Hillary Clinton.

furious_a said...

That is a sure indication of agitation and fear rising on "both sides"

Reporter witnesses a purse snatcher knock a little old lady into the path of an oncoming bus, then a bystander pull her out of the bus' path.

Headline next day: LITTLE OLD LADY PUSHED AROUND AT BUS STOP

h/t: William F. Buckley.

hombre said...

Hillary doesn't follow the law either.

Female privilege!

HoodlumDoodlum said...

In retrospect, I realize I shouldn’t be proud of my transgression.

She says she knows she shouldn't be...but of course she is clearly proud of herself & her actions. It's a humblebrag of sorts. Disgusting.

Over the past several weeks, grasping the depth of Trump’s predatory behavior toward women throughout his adult life (and even worse, his denial of it) has simply become unbearable.

Trump's denial! That's beautiful. Is it sexist to call this woman a bitch? I'll risk it: You stupid bitch, you know you're supporting a woman who actively abetted her rapist husband's repeated sexual assaults & workplace sexual harassment, right? And he "denied it" to the nation--remember?

Her bullshit story about a board member propositioning her is pointless. Some dude didn't treat her with the respect she feels she's entitled to and asked her for a hook up (as part of an all-expense paid date or whatever), she said no, he dropped it and said it was a mistake to ask...and we're supposed to see that as traumatic and to view her as some sort of brave victim?! What a deluded narcissist.

I think the only box she didn't tick was claiming her illegal, immoral actions were "for the children." She does drop that she has a 10 year old daughter, so it's at least implied.

Big Mike said...

I can't link to the article until November 1st. However it would be nice if instead of saying "Now don't do that again" the Cumberland County judge gave the woman 200 hours of community service.

320Busdriver said...

Blogger Sydney said...
She must have a friend at the The Washington Post. Hard to understand otherwise why they would publish such a lame attempt at self justification.

In fact she does and that friend was on Oreilly last evening. Enjoy!

walter said...

"Equilibrium" now demands her Hilary sign be removed against her wish. Strange thing, equilibrium..
I'm sure her neighbors will be pleased by her publishing such a heartfelt apology..

Yancey Ward said...

Damikesc wrote:

"I've had arguments over work over this stuff. We are big on "empowering girls to pursue education". You get filthy looks when you mention 'Hey, boys finish high school far less often than girls, kill themselves more often, go to college way less frequently than girls, and graduate way less than girls. Perhaps girls aren't the ones who need the empowering at this point'"

I once got into an online dispute (not initiated by me, either) with a close female relative who was under the apparent delusion that the victims of most homicides were female. I suspect your experiences aren't rare.

Yancey Ward said...

furious_a wrote:

"Why couldn't the nice ladies have, you know, put up lawn signs of their own?"

I would wager this- they did. Of course, that wouldn't be mentioned in the story for obvious reasons.

LYNNDH said...

Well where I live in Colorado, it can't be on the "other side". No Hillary signs anywhere and damn few (two to be exact) bumper stickers. More for Bernie. I got my Trump sign and a women who had several already stolen ask me how I would keep mine. I just replies "Ruger".

Yancey Ward said...

Sydney wrote:

"She must have a friend at the The Washington Post. Hard to understand otherwise why they would publish such a lame attempt at self justification."

That is an excellent question- why? I think the explanation is a bit disconcerting- the writer at WaPo really believes, first, that the attempt at justification isn't lame, and, secondly, that the entire story helps Clinton politically. In other words, I think the writer of the article is just as unhinged as sign-stealer.

Michael K said...

"it's America last time I checked."

Not for long if you-know-who is elected.

Jennifer Rubin has pretty much killed off her career at the Post with her lunatic Trump hatred. She was always a token there, anyway. 90% of their readers hate her.

I saw a hilarious video on facebook of a women who recorded herself getting stopped by the cops after giving a guy the finger over his Trump signs. I suspect she did more than that.

My wife has a "Hillary prison 2016" bumper sticker. I think she gets away with it because the libs don't read past the first word.

HoodlumDoodlum said...

Yes, I vote, and I’m a registered Democrat, but I’m no political animal. This year, motivated to support anyone but Trump, I bought my own sign for Hillary Clinton and have it placed in my front yard. I know a lot of families who are doing the same.

See, Clinton supporters & their families are actual people. Trump supporters don't have families & aren't real people, so fuck them and their signs and their desire to express support in exactly the same way Clinton supporters want to express support.

The 1st Amendment is for good people & good families. It is not supposed to be for hate speech or for non-people. Anyone who doesn't agree with the Left is engaging in hate speech any time they open their hateful mouths. It's very simple.

Hey Skipper said...

What the hell is it with progressives and passive voice?

Achilles said...

Michael K said...
"it's America last time I checked."

Cowards like Brando can't figure out why democrats win these elections.

HoodlumDoodlum said...

Your Lefty friends and talented people like Lena Dunham approve of this bullshit of considering "things I dislike" or "ideas I disapprove of" as assault, Professor. When people like me talk about the harm of PC and the Leftist push to consider dissenting ideas harmful this is the shit we're talking about, and under the umbrella of "considering students' feelings" or some such you've supported it. This is the logical consequence.

When "opposing viewpoints" = assault then "taking violent actions to shut down speech you don't like" is justified and even, as here, seen as morally just! That's the legacy of your care about feelings, Professor. Thanks!

Achilles said...

Hillary supporters at work.

HoodlumDoodlum said...

He had been told about our little escapade, and he was pressing charges.

Our little escapade! "Can we get some muscle over here?!" Fucking Leftist garbage--preening moral vanity and condescension, patting themselves on the back for their goodthink and a moment later using & justifying violence and criminal behavior against anyone with whom they disagree.

I 100% guarantee this woman & her friends cluck their tongues about closeminded Republicans & the danger of (right wing) epistemic closure. She can't stand to allow people in her neighborhood express some opinion that's counter to hers.

Jesus, imagine someone going to the Post with a self-serving article like this after they were arrested for stealing "Black Lives Matter" signs.

The Left is full of shit, the Media is garbage, and nice people like the Professor who don't fight against PC bullshit help these assholes win. Yay Hillary!

Brando said...

"Cowards like Brando can't figure out why democrats win these elections."

Contrary to your gratuitous ad hominem, I know exactly why democrats win elections. Last I checked, I wasn't the one who voted to nominate an unwinnable mess of a candidate who made a complete hash of what should have been a promising year.

But please, tell me more about how the problem is that we don't "hit back ten times as hard". We saw how hard your impotent hero hit soft target Hillary in three debates. I'm sure he pleased you to no end, but sadly you are part of a distinct minority.

That is why you keep blowing elections for the rest of us.

EMD said...

I got my Trump sign and a woman who had several already stolen ask me how I would keep mine.

There are many methods -- put it on a wooden stick and rough up the post to maximize splinterage should anyone try to pull it from the ground. Smear it with something awful. Electrify it.

Sebastian said...

"She describes her mind as the mind of an insane person." No. That assumes a standard of normality against which the supposed "insanity" is to be measured. Such a standard no longer exists. Pure subjectivity rules. You are under assault if you feel under assault. You are a woman if you feel you are.

"Someone else's speech was assaulting her mind and destroying all sense of equilibrium, as if she had to protect the inside of her own head where she never dreamed anyone else could own property." Not as if. For real.

"But it wasn't really only in her own head, as the policeman kindly informed her." Not only in her own head -- for the time being. The cop had better be kindly, or else. The therapeutic has triumphed in much of law enforcement as well.

Rockport Conservative said...

I was relieved to see the comments on this story in the Washington Post. They were almost all highly critical of her, only one or two replies to comments supported her. Nice.
This is like a child blaming someone for her faults. Trump made her do it.

HoodlumDoodlum said...

EMD said...There are many methods -- put it on a wooden stick and rough up the post to maximize splinterage should anyone try to pull it from the ground. Smear it with something awful. Electrify it.

FoxNews - Viral Video Show Man Getting Shocked While Trying to Steal Trump Yard Sign

(That's probably illegal, of course--god help you if anyone gets hurt.)

richardsson said...

Blogger damikesc said...

There's been some hand-wringing for years that men don't seem interested in marriage. It's because most men have had experiences with women like this and it makes marriage way less palatable of an option.


Yes, I stopped dating long ago. I'll bet now that she's written this "thoughtful" piece in a "newspaper of record," she'll turn on the tears and boo hoo her way out of this.

dreams said...

It seems like its been awhile since there has been any Scott Adams on this site so here is this. Also, I think Trump is going to win.

"I’ve been trying to figure out what common trait binds Clinton supporters together. As far as I can tell, the most unifying characteristic is a willingness to bully in all its forms.

If you have a Trump sign in your lawn, they will steal it.

If you have a Trump bumper sticker, they will deface your car.

if you speak of Trump at work you could get fired.

On social media, almost every message I get from a Clinton supporter is a bullying type of message. They insult. They try to shame. They label. And obviously they threaten my livelihood.

We know from Project Veritas that Clinton supporters tried to incite violence at Trump rallies. The media downplays it.

We also know Clinton’s side hired paid trolls to bully online. You don’t hear much about that."

http://blog.dilbert.com/post/152293480726/the-bully-party

HoodlumDoodlum said...

Here's the thing: the smart set (like Professor Althouse's friends & fellow law professors) and Media insist that Trump is a budding Hitler, that he's a dark fascist and represents a threat to the safety & survival of all Americans. That's such a common assertion it barely registers now, right? Now in that environment why would any individual feel like they should be punished for ripping down signs or attacking Trump supporters (shutting down rallies, keying cars) or even firebombing campaign offices? Everybody wants to think they'd be the one who would have killed Hitler given the chance, right? Well if Trump is a new Hitler and Trump's supporters are the new SA/SS, well it's only natural that they should be subject to physical attacks. It's the right thing to do!

JaimeRoberto said...

So the woman sees a sign and gets hysterical. Way to fight against stereotypes, lady.

dreams said...

"Jennifer Rubin has pretty much killed off her career at the Post with her lunatic Trump hatred. She was always a token there, anyway. 90% of their readers hate her."

I use to like her but she went to work for the Washington Post and started referring to her Washington Post colleagues so I knew her contamination was inevitable.

viator said...

The Bully Party

"I’ve been trying to figure out what common trait binds Clinton supporters together. As far as I can tell, the most unifying characteristic is a willingness to bully in all its forms.

If you have a Trump sign in your lawn, they will steal it.

If you have a Trump bumper sticker, they will deface your car.

if you speak of Trump at work you could get fired.

On social media, almost every message I get from a Clinton supporter is a bullying type of message. They insult. They try to shame. They label. And obviously they threaten my livelihood.

320Busdriver said...

On J Rubin:
"I use to like her but she went to work for the Washington Post and started referring to her Washington Post colleagues so I knew her contamination was inevitable."

If you watch the clip I posted earlier upthread you might swear she has a thousand cats.
She was made to look like a fool on the factor last night. I would characterize her as a bumbling idiot.

HoodlumDoodlum said...

Michael K said..."Jennifer Rubin has pretty much killed off her career at the Post with her lunatic Trump hatred. She was always a token there, anyway. 90% of their readers hate her."

What I don't get is: what is the point of Jennifer Rubin? Like, what's she for? Same with David Brooks. Both routinely attack the non-Left (Trump, of course, but also Trump supporters, the Tea Party, etc) with the same types of attacks the Left does. I mean, I can get called a racist by Eugene Robinson so why do I need Brooks to also call me a racist? I can get called a sexist by Katrina vanden Heuvel so why do I need Rubin? When "conservative" writers attack the Right with the same (crappy) assertions the Left does, what's the point of having them at all?

Howard said...

Trump is not Hitler. Hitler actually had a plan and got it done. Trump is an entertainer. He's more like Peewee Herman with less manliness.

Michael K said...

"When "conservative" writers attack the Right with the same (crappy) assertions the Left does, what's the point of having them at all?"

The illusion of fairness. I was just reading a piece in The New Republic about how Trump is "cratering" and will disappear.

These people are so certain they are correct, when the Iranian nuke goes off, they won't believe it. Lilian Hellman could not be convinced that Germany would invade the USSR. It never crossed her mind.

Obama "knows" that Iran will be an ally. Stalin thought the same about Hitler. The Pauline Kael delusion writ large,

Howard said...

Rethuglicans playing the victim card. Just. So. SAD.

Michael K said...

Howard is also very very sure.

Michael K said...


FoxNews - Viral Video Show Man Getting Shocked While Trying to Steal Trump Yard Sign


Back in my engineer days, my boss drove a Porsche when they were pretty rare. He got tired of people messing with it and installed a Model T ignition coil wired to the frame. He had an off-on switch under the wheel well.

The coil gives a 10,000 volt shock but has only about a 0.1 amp current. It will knock you on your ass but not kill you.

After an angry neighbor got after him, he took it off. Typical engineer solution. I wonder i the guy putting the sign up is an engineer ?

Howard said...

Damn-straight Mike. I'm an Angeleno through and through. Not impressed by Hollywood douches or New York con men. The southland used to stand for hot rodding, off roading, ocean and mountain adventure sports, aviation, aerospace and the military. None of that hyper macho culture I grew up in supported girlie-men like Dronald Drumpf. He's an enlistment away from a blanket party or a commission away from a fragging. Why do you keep stroking him off? Sad

Michael McClain said...

Additional proof that the DemCong do not believe in First Amendment rights and why the Second Amendment is so important.

Big Mike said...

@Brando, we Republicans will never, and I repeat NEVER, nominate a better person and better roll-up-your-sleeves-and-get-'er-done guy than Mitt Romney. And he lost. We need a get-down-in-the-gutter-with-the-slimy-Democrats infighter, and Trump beat Cruz for the title.

Michael K said...

" Why do you keep stroking him off? Sad"

So, voting for the Republican nominee is "stroking off?"

I assume you have a lot invested in Hillary ? If you don;t you are far down the totem pole with us despicables.

She is for sale an will sell out anyone who does not pay her price,

Michael K said...

Rethuglicans playing the victim card. Just. So. SAD.

Sure, Howard. Your Pajama Boy footies are showing. Don't bullshit a bullshiter,

Howard said...

T and H are both vile beyond belief with T being several orders of magnitude less qualified than the poorly qualified H.

Howard said...

The fix is in. The media is against us. Cat ladies are stealing my yard signs. yadayadayada

David said...

Better comes by it naturally. She grew up rich in Malibu and went to Sarah Lawrence. She is indeed quite good looking though no longer youthful and probably has had more than one offer of sex in her lifetime. Her grandfather Herbert Strothart was an award winning Hollywood type, whose biggest accomplishment was writing the original musical score for Wizard of Oz.

Betta is a "writer and publicist." She "studied writing" at Sarah Lawrence. She's been in Maine for quite a while working as a publicist for some natural food producers and a "large" environmental foundation (which actually runs enviro summer camps for mainly wealthy kids.)

She describes herself thusly in a blurb for a seaweed company she has some involvement with.

Betta is a writer, editor, and marketing professional with 20 years of experience in the all-natural sector. She started her career as a journalist in Maine and was director of marketing for two natural food companies before moving into the nonprofit sector, where she was director of communications for a large environmental nonprofit. Betta won a Golden Arrow Award from the Maine Public Relations Council. She is passionate about seaweed and promoting a diverse, healthy, and plant-centered diet for Americans.

Best of Breed (Hot Geezer Division.)

cubanbob said...

Howard said...
Trump is not Hitler. Hitler actually had a plan and got it done. Trump is an entertainer. He's more like Peewee Herman with less manliness.

10/25/16, 4:04 PM"

True dat. That is why I'm voting for him. The other candidate, the fascistic criminal, grifter traitor has an evil plan and is implacable. I'll take four years of razzle-dazzle entertainment over dour wannabe Stalin.

cubanbob said...

"Jennifer Rubin has pretty much killed off her career at the Post with her lunatic Trump hatred. She was always a token there, anyway. 90% of their readers hate her."

Worst case of career suicide ever. No doubt will be an example for future students on what not to do. On the flip side Hannity looked the fool with his interview of this guy Rovins and the supposed smoking gun. Some innuendo but no actual example. O'Reilly who is hardly a genius would have conducted a pre-interview to suss this guy out to see whether or not he was worth putting on the air.

MalaiseLongue said...

Betta is a mom.

MomPieFlag.

Mom = patriot.

Trump = traitor.

buwaya said...

Howard,
"T and H are both vile beyond belief with T being several orders of magnitude less qualified than the poorly qualified H."

And H comes with an entire clique of expert kleptocrats and totalitarians, to add to the horde already present. So, bonus.

Unknown said...

And if thy right sign offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.

narciso said...

as opposed to these accusers whose cover stories are tissue thin, if one cared to investigate?

narciso said...

anderson vanderbilt if he had a shame, rhetorical, the today tools, the gma gargoyles,

Mike said...

Is every one of these people mentally ill? One gets groped for 15 minutes on a plane before she even notices it. This one has no concept of boundaries. Hillary's minions hire the mentally ill and retarded to start fights at rallies. They brag about pulling the wool over America's eyes for 40 years. Their candidate is surrounded by people who hate minorities and see them all as needy in diverse ways and they tolerate Hillary saying "Muslims are sand niggers" and railing at the "fucking jews" for not donating enough to her. Yet they say the other guy is (again like every four years) a Nazi!

WTF?

Fen said...

"We felt assaulted by the number of signs."

Hmmm. I guess I feel "assaulted" by your speech too. Where do you live?

Fen said...

There's been some hand-wringing for years that men don't seem interested in marriage. It's because most men have had experiences with women like this and it makes marriage way less palatable of an option. I can marry a fucking lunatic, she goes crazy, and I lose my kids, my house, etc. Yeah, GREAT plan. Feminism has turned many Western women into women no man in their right mind would remotely contemplate marrying.

Yup, when I was 20, my list of attributes for a wife was
1) easy on the eyes
2) as smart or smarter than me
3) sense of humor

By the time I was 30, I had to add a new qualifier
4) sane, relatively

Makes you appreciate maybe WHY men took so long to give women equal rights and the right to vote. Can you imagine what they must have been like before the Pill started regulating their mood swings? If there is one thing men do not trust, its emotional inconsistency.

And sorry Feminist Nazis, but by your own "patriarchy" narrative, women have been easily oppressed by men for the last 5000 years. So, what I hear you saying is that women really aren't our equals.

Fen said...

Howard said The fix is in. The media is against us. Cat ladies are stealing my yard signs. yadayadayada

Corrupt Democrat laughs about denying freedom of speech to the other side.

Remember this when they beg for mercy.

President Bartlett: In the future if you are wondering, Howard - "free speech, boy I don't know" - is when I decided to kick your ass.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvr1T1sFvEg

Harold said...

Well, as I scroll through the comments I see people saying good things about Trump- pro-American, and bad things about Trump. And as usual, going through the comments, not a single supporter of Monica Lewinsky's ex-boyfriend's wife, corrupt alcoholic enabler of her sexual predator husband have given a single reason to vote FOR her rather then against Trump.

If you're going to weight reasons to vote against, she's carrying a much heavier load. MUCH, MUCH, much heavier load. If you don't think so, you haven't been paying attention.

And if you're weighing reasons to vote for, Trump is pro-American, a good reason to vote for. And you can't say that about her. Not with a straight face, anyway.

Jonathan Graehl said...

I dare anyone: defend Hillary supporters as they actually are.

These are people who have no experience or ability in managing the adrenaline dump that comes from being confronted in real life with disagreement from their social media SLAAAYYYY GIRL bubbles.

Jonathan Graehl said...

*disagreement with

Jon Ericson said...

Stealing Trump Signs

Jon Ericson said...

Where have all the rent girls gone? long time passing.

Achilles said...

Howard said...
"Rethuglicans playing the victim card. Just. So. SAD."

Not nearly as sad as you will be when we start treating you like you have treated us.

walter said...

Howard said... None of that hyper macho culture I grew up in supported girlie-men like Dronald Drumpf.
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This is weird..considering hyper macho culture is what a lot of women seem to find offensive...about Trump. But yes..no kitted out Camaro for trump.

Brando said...

"@Brando, we Republicans will never, and I repeat NEVER, nominate a better person and better roll-up-your-sleeves-and-get-'er-done guy than Mitt Romney. And he lost. We need a get-down-in-the-gutter-with-the-slimy-Democrats infighter, and Trump beat Cruz for the title."

Big Mike--we agree on the problem, we just see the solution a bit differently. While I can think of a lot of things Romney did wrong, I think he faced a lot of disadvantages in 2012 that would have similarly affected any GOP nominee, and even the same Romney would be doing better than Hillary this year (I know, we can never know for sure with such hypotheticals, but Romney would have had more of the right united behind him than Trump has, and more appeal to moderates and while the Clintons would try to paint him the same way they did Trump, it wouldn't be as easy or effective against Romney--Romney just doesn't feed that the way Trump does).

We do need a fighter--one who actually lands punches. Wild nonsense swings at his own potential allies? That's not what we needed.

damikesc said...

Makes you appreciate maybe WHY men took so long to give women equal rights and the right to vote. Can you imagine what they must have been like before the Pill started regulating their mood swings? If there is one thing men do not trust, its emotional inconsistency.

And sorry Feminist Nazis, but by your own "patriarchy" narrative, women have been easily oppressed by men for the last 5000 years. So, what I hear you saying is that women really aren't our equals.


Feminists still expect men to be chivalrous and ignore that chivalry was a two-way street. Women had obligations in it that they wish to simply eschew. Fine. But why should a man continue honoring his part of the bargain when the women no longer do so?

The "politeness" that men lack is what feminists label as "patriarchy"...it's just the part of "patriarchy" that they don't mind. Men gave up their seats to women because women were "ill-suited" for physical exertion. It was politeness based on an assumption of female fragility. If women are equals...then they can stand the fuck up if I got here first.

Don't throw out tradition until you realize what will replace it, people.

Remember this when they beg for mercy.

Yeah. At this point, I don't want peaceful co-existence. I want them to suffer. Harshly. And I will support any Republican who runs on making Progressives hurt.

rich hahn said...

I guess Savage and Coulter must be right - Liberalism is a Mental Disease.

MarkJ said...

"it was destroying all sense of equilibrium in our community."

Yeah, and Hitler thought the Jews were destroying all sense of equilibrium in his community.
And Stalin thought the kulaks were destroying all sense of equilibrium in his community. And Mao thought intellectuals and the religious were destroying all sense of equilibrium in his community.

See how easy this is?

jeanne babin said...

There's really nothing new here. It's been some time that liberals and their minions in the media have lived with the attitude that: If you think a law or circumstance is unjust, you don't have to accept it.

Sign stealing, car keying, office bombing....they deserved it. Don't like the immigration laws? Don't try to pass new ones (because that would require publicly admitting your position). Just ignore the old ones and act as if you HAD passed your version. Don't want to comply with FOIA requests and let the public see what you did as a public official? Just lie, delete, destroy and defer....the media will work with you. Don't like those cretins who support Trump? Let's have some fun and go to his rallies and stir up some violence. Here we even get law enforcement itself to look the other way....and the media will reliably report it as "violence breaks out at Trump rally". Win Win.

In other words, LAWLESSNESS itself has become the platform of the Democratic Party. For the entire Obama presidency, I've been asking why the GOP doesn't point this out to the public. Say: "If you don't like the law, offer an alternative that can be voted up or down in Congress. You can't just ignore the laws you don't like! What kind of message is that sending to our citizens?".

I Callahan said...

See how easy this is?

Except no one on the conservative side is suggesting that we kill all the women. I'm thinking you may want to rethink this non-applicable example?

snaH said...

Is it just me, or have progressive feminists over the past couple of years started trying to embody all of the negative, sexist stereotypes that feminists used to work to eliminate? Women are now powerful and empowered beings who must always be protected from hearing or seeing anything that makes them feel bad or that they otherwise don't like. If not they can't be held responsible for their actions. Oh, and math is sexist because it's logical. And this is all good, because whatever "women" (by which they mean "I") want is good. If we'd just wise up and put women like them in charge of everything, the world would be perfect.

Then they wonder why more and more women don't want to be called feminists. I guess that's as logical as any of the rest of it. Oops, now I'm being sexist - applying my male logic to their more exalted thought processes. Forget I said anything.

Californio_6th_ gen said...

She cannot control large-scale emotions, like the desire to break something or lash out when angry. And she is a parent. (But Mom, I was really ANGRY. And the target of my outburst is reviled anyway. So that is why we lynched him....) I weep for the future of the Republic......

ObeliskToucher said...

Sounds like the white, suburban version of a flash mob...

richard mcenroe said...

Democrats are completely incapable of discerning right from wrong; they understand only ant and don't-want. So of course they also don't understand guilt; if they want it, it can't be wrong. And they can only address the injustice when they are caught and punished by accusing someone else of wrongdoing as well.

Jack Sherman said...

The officer was kind, informing us that we had stolen someone else’s personal property, which had not really entered into my mind while I was doing it.

Because you're a self centered h8r??