September 14, 2016

Tibetan monks construct a mandala at the University of Wisconsin.

I was just taking my traditional 3 scoops of Babcock mocha macchiato ice cream to the Sunset Lounge at the University of Wisconsin Memorial Union today, but all the usual seats had been cleared out, and Tibetan monks were scritchy-scratching colored sand onto a table...

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You might think this would draw a crowd — at least a small crowd — of onlookers, but it did not. It was a beautiful day and the students were out and about.

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I took a close-up shot with my iPhone and texted it to Meade...

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... and he texted back "Parcheesi!"

Yes, yes... religion, practiced in the halls of the state institution. It's not really a problem, is it? Not as long as all religions are given equivalent access.

44 comments:

PBandJ_LeDouanier said...

Hopefully Althouse will have the new phone w/ a better zoom after Friday.

Hagar said...

More like it is all right as long as it is not Christian religion.

Meade said...

Your attachment to hope for a better zoom will only increase your suffering, PB. Meditation and mindfulness will help free you from your illusions and desires.

traditionalguy said...

Equivalent access? But Monotheism is limited to one God. And the Dali Lama's boys get to use hundreds of them. So how is that equivalent access.

Rob said...

In addition to being very beautiful, sand mandalas are a testament to the fundamental idea of impermanence--of art, of all things human, perhaps of all things material. Once completed, they're swept up and the sand deposited in a river. Blissfully right.

Rae said...

Don't sneeze.

Marc Puckett said...

'Not as long as all religions are given equal access.' What other religious people have used the Sunset Lounge for some equivalent purpose, I wonder-- but not so much that I'm going to go skim about the Internets.

Ann Althouse said...

I was worried about the brightly colored pigments. Were they toxic? They were powdery and getting scratched vigorously. I was concerned about the air quality.

Ann Althouse said...

"Once completed, they're swept up and the sand deposited in a river."

Are the pigments nontoxic?

YoungHegelian said...

Yes, yes... religion, practiced in the halls of the state institution. It's not really a problem, is it? Not as long as all religions are given equivalent access.

See, here's the thing. The folks who would complain about a religious presence on campus are really too culturally & religiously illiterate to know that they are being exposed to a foreign "religion". They just think "Oh, isn't this X from a foreign country pretty!". Here's an example: how many folks know that Ganesh is a Hindu deity? Folks just see this strange elephant-headed, four (or more) armed man.

Now, the iconography of Christianity, & to some extent Judaism, your average secularite has grown up hideously oppressed by, so he knows what to look for so he can be outraged.

The Cracker Emcee said...

"More like it is all right as long as it is not Christian religion."

Bingo. Even the Leftist hypocrites take this for granted.

Lucien said...

Was that a Full Nelson Mandala, or more like a televised Nielson Mandala?

Quaestor said...

One monk may be constructing the mandala, the other looks likes he's snorting it.

Quaestor said...

I was worried about the brightly colored pigments. Were they toxic? They were powdery and getting scratched vigorously. I was concerned about the air quality.

This is a laugh line from the new Netflix sitcom, "Althouse and Meade," right?

Unknown said...

Nobody sneeze!

mockturtle said...

Looks like a colossal waste of time.

Marc Puckett said...

No, AA, the brightly colored pigments were not toxic; those Drepung Loseling monks were here last summer, I believe, during Tibet Week, inter alia creating a sand mandala: I can assure you that that wouldn't have happened if there were any toxins involved. Not here in Eugene.

Bill said...

SHAME on Meade for demeaning the lived experiences of Tibetan monks!

Freeman Hunt said...

If pictures are allowed, doesn't that defeat the meaning?

TWW said...

Let me get a little closer. AAAAAChew!!!!

YoungHegelian said...
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YoungHegelian said...

Did the monks get hungry while working & call out for pizza?

Hey, Luigi, can you make me one with everything?

I'm sorry, I didn't get enough beauty sleep last night....

Curious George said...

"Yes, yes... religion, practiced in the halls of the state institution. It's not really a problem, is it? Not as long as it isn't Christianity or Judaism."

FIFY

mockturtle said...

Marc Puckett adroitly answered: No, AA, the brightly colored pigments were not toxic; those Drepung Loseling monks were here last summer, I believe, during Tibet Week, inter alia creating a sand mandala: I can assure you that that wouldn't have happened if there were any toxins involved. Not here in Eugene.

Eugene?! Oh, good heavens, no! Never!

Tibet Week. Too funny!

Curious George said...

Gunga galunga... gunga, gunga-galunga!

TWW said...

"Once completed, they're swept up and the sand deposited in a river."
Reminds me of ex-PFC Wintergreen's comment about having to dig holes and fill them up again as punishment for insubordination in 'Catch 22'. "It's not a bad job. And I suppose someone has to do it."

Jupiter said...

"Yes, yes... religion, practiced in the halls of the state institution. It's not really a problem, is it? Not as long as all religions are given equivalent access."

Ah, the balanced approach. If one religion uses its half hour to produce an ephemeral mandala, and another religion uses its half hour to behead a couple dozen infidels, that's thirty minutes each, right?

Religions were not created equal. It is not wisdom to regard them as interchangeable.

fivewheels said...

"Kundun ... I liked it."


Nelson Mandala

BN said...

"Can you make me one with everything?"

Eventually. But you won't remember it.

Marc Puckett said...

Mockturtle, The neo-Puritan/anti-liberalism of the vegan/bicycling/'organic way of life' &c elements coexisting with the neo-60s 'countercultural' let's use the drugs (a new marijuana dispensary every week!) &c elements here in Eugene is almost always an entertaining spectacle, yes.

David said...

those Drepung Loseling monks were here last summer, I believe, during Tibet Week, inter alia creating a sand mandala: I can assure you that that wouldn't have happened if there were any toxins involved. Not here in Eugene.

This is a state where then drain reservoirs if they learn that some kid peed in it.

Mac McConnell said...

Good thing those monks don't have "pneumonia" or is it flu today?

Rusty said...

Ann Althouse said...
"I was worried about the brightly colored pigments. Were they toxic? They were powdery and getting scratched vigorously. I was concerned about the air quality."

Do the monks look sick?

rhhardin said...

It's a display of skill, not religion.

The art seems a little overstylized. They need some fresh conventions.

Ann Althouse said...

"If one religion uses its half hour to produce an ephemeral mandala..."

This enterprise was set up to take many hours...

Todd said...

religion, practiced in the halls of the state institution

I am no lawyer but is not the issue that of "endorsement" of a specific religion versus simply allowing access?

Is it not OK for various groups to use state facilities for religious purposes as long as no religion is discriminated against? Allowing use would seem to be OK, no?

whitney said...

"Not as long as all religions are given equivalent access"
Please. Did you mean "as long as it's not Christian"

coupe said...

Is Tibet still a country? I heard the Chicoms invaded years ago.

James Pawlak said...

I now look forward to:
1. The placement of artistic Mezusahs (Mezuzet) and "Holy Water" fonts on the door-posts of UW building;
2. A five times each day Muslim call for prayer (And regular demands for military Jihad) proclaimed over in all UW buildings;
3. Processions of Eastern Christian priests, in their colorful and artistic robes, through UW's buildings (Perhaps blessing them and students at the beginning of each school term); And,
4. Pulpits established in all UW public spaces (eg The Student Union) set aside for: Christian non-conformist ministers-of-religion; Sikh religious leaders; Like Hindus (Especially of the group that has a particular devotion to Kali); Altars (With evironmentally safe drains) for those who wish to practice (In beautiful feathered garments) to old Aztec religion.

madAsHell said...

ah...aH..AHHH....CHOO.....and the church is separated from the state.

Chuck said...

Big hitter, the Lama. Long.

EMD said...

I wonder if Meadehouse has watched House of Cards.

southcentralpa said...

No, it's not a problem so long as it's ABC ...

mikee said...

These monks go around the country and probably the whole world doing this, collecting money for their charitable works and decrying the ongoing genocide of Tibetans by the invading Chinese Communists.

Why hasn't Richard Gere and support for the Tibetans against the Communist Chinese invasion of Tibet and ongoing genocide been in the news more lately? Not cool anymore, or have film revenues from China become sufficiently large to sway the politics of Tinseltown? Hehehe, I don't have to ask, really, do I?