April 1, 2016

"The video does not support evidence of a sexual assault. It does support that a punch was delivered by the 15-year-old..."


Said Janesville Police Chief David Moore about the incident at the Trump rally last Tuesday.
[Moore described the man who got punched in the face] as using “very animated hand gestures” during the verbal altercation and emphasized the closeness of people of the crowd. “These are pretty close quarters,” he said. “These are emotional times and the brushing up or pushing against someone is probably occurring all over in that crowd.”

Moore said [the man] did not wish to pursue assault charges against the girl, but police have referred the girl to juvenile authorities on a tentative disorderly conduct charge....

45 comments:

Ignorance is Bliss said...

That's pretty much what I saw in the video.

HoodlumDoodlum said...

I would have bet money the older guy wouldn't press charges. In the real world I hope some assistant prosecutor calls her and says she could have ad a disorderly conduct charge but she won't, and to make sure she keeps herself under control in the future.

In the world of politics as we're now supposed to live it everyone should have pressed maximum charges against everyone else.

I guess it's a happy ending, assuming the spray-er catches a charge. I'd prefer to see the police dept. apologize for initially saying the woman was groped/the older guy was a groper (that's what was reported, anyway, that the police stated that), but I guess this is about as good as it gets.

rsbsail said...

As a man, I wouldn't pursue charges against a 15-year-old girl either. A punch in the face is nothing compared to the ridicule one would get from friends and neighbors!

Achilles said...

Only women can press charges now.

Laslo Spatula said...

"Daddy Issue America": an Excerpt...

"Mom?"

"Yes, Amanda?'

"I went to a Trump rally and an old white guy grabbed my ass."

"How old?"

"Like Grandpa Old."

"Okay: did he 'grab', or did he 'fish-hook'?

"Fish-hook, Mom?"

"You know sweetie: when they grab at the back but then hook their fingers underneath to the front."

"I get it. He didn't fish-hook -- he just kinda... twirled."

"He twirled his fingers?"

"Yeah."

"Between your thighs?"

"Yeah."

"And what did YOU do?"

"I didn't have to do anything: a little Japanese Guy stepped up and gave him a Judo Chop and he fell down."

"Japanese?"

"I don't know, he could have been Korean. Or some other kind of Asian Chink."

"Well, that was very nice of the Japanese Man, but -- Honey -- you can NEVER let a Stranger Fish-Hook you."

"I know, Mom: I was all set to stab him in the balls with my Keys, just like you taught me."

"Exactly. And we don't worry about little Davey because..."

"Because little Davey tried to put his finger in my vagina in fourth grade and I stabbed him in the balls with my keys and was suspended."

"And who was Right and who was Wrong?"

"I was Right and Davey and the School were Wrong."

"Exactly, Amanda: exactly. Now what did I teach you?"

"No one can touch my Asshole if I don't want them to."

"See? You are becoming a BIG Girl..."


I am Laslo.

Ignorance is Bliss said...

HoodlumDoodlum said...

I guess it's a happy ending...

If you watch the video closely, you see that's actually pepper spray, which explains the orange color. But an understandable mistake.

Ignorance is Bliss said...

( Yes, I'm going to hell... )

Michael K said...

Notice it was the Trump supporter who declined to press charges.

Contrary to the leftist meme.

HoodlumDoodlum said...

How much orange juice or Faygo do you drink, IiB? You might need to see someone about that...

n.n said...

There was no permanent injury or abortion, so the rational and reasonable outcome was a settlement in good faith, and a lesson in mutual respect learned by the young activist.

Levi Starks said...

A happy ending after all

madAsHell said...

Lazlo, have you ever considered stand-up comedy?...and where do I buy tickets?

James Pawlak said...

What was the age and physical condition of the man who was punched? If old or infirm, such a punch might have presented "a clear-and-present-danger of great bodily injury: allowing a third party to use the non-lethal force of "Pepper Spray".

If that was the case, a renewal of attacking by that young terrorist (NOT "activist") would have justified the use of deadly force---Also, supported by the lack of immediate-and-effective police intervention.

madAsHell said...

Fifteen years old??....yeah, I don't think so.

eric said...

Stories like this, when they begin, they begin on the principle that a lie can get half way around the world before the truth can put its boots on.

Rick said...

n.n said...
a lesson in mutual respect learned by the young activist.


There's zero chance this happened.

Eric said...

Another fake sexual assault? Must be a day ending in "y".

rcocean said...

The who declined to press charges is a fool. She - a lefty - would've pressed charges if the situation had been reversed.

Conservatism thy name is stupidity.

Jason said...

Why should the guy who did the spraying get charged?

She was committing a violent assault. He ended it in an instant with appropriate non-lethal force. Saved her a beatdown that could have been a lot more damaging, and maybe prevented a massive brawl.

If I were the cops, the only reason I'd be looking for the guy is to give him a medal.

The girl isn't 15, anyway. Apparently she's 19, and liberals were lying about that, too.



If it were me, I wouldn't press charges. Kid did something stupid. Got a faceful of spray, stopped doing the stupid thing, walked away and said "I deserved that." Such rare moments of insight should be encouraged.

As far as concerned, this particular matter with this particular young woman is concluded.

As for you libtards who used her to do your dirty work, and are sending people like her out as hired goons to disrupt political expression and exercise a heckler's veto and intimidate others by violence or the threat of violence or who shout down speakers and deny the right of others to hear what they have to say, you proto-fascist thugs can go straight to Hell.

gadfly said...

The question not asked is: Why did the idiotic-looking guy with the Trump hat butt-in and pepper-spray the woman? it appears to me to demonstrate the Trump "hate all ugly women" meme that rubbed off on the Trump Hive Mind. "Pepper-spray and the Weasel" would perfectly describe the bastard.

traditionalguy said...

Women assaulting men is green lighted in the generation coming up. They see it as a duty to beat down weak people since men are told never to strike a woman. Pushing the boundaries issue is all we see these days.

David said...

She Who Became Sprayed was spoiling for a fight. There were younger, smaller and wiser children trying to hold her back. I don't think she was 15, and I do think she came to the rally hoping to get into some altercation. It turned out to be harmless, but it doesn't always turn out that way. Shame on the adults who are inciting these kids to get into dangerous situations.

eddie willers said...

The girl isn't 15, anyway. Apparently she's 19, and liberals were lying about that, too.

I saw the video shortly after it was posted and before any mention of her age. I thought she was around 25. I'm guessing an angry liberal life ages one prematurely.

tim maguire said...

I don't see anything there that the police need to get involved in. It was a minor altercation that resolved itself. Good for the guy for doing his part to not let this stupidly escalate into courtroom action.

Humperdink said...

For me, the non-verbal response was awesome.

15 years old? No matter, the young skull full of mush exited the premises ladled with hot sauce. Probably still licking her chops this morning.

Wonder if this could lead to pepper spray wars at future Trump protests. Maybe the Trump campaign could market the product.

Curious George said...

I imagine she "Feels the Bern" now, eh?

Mark said...

Keep telling yourselves that the pepper sprayer was some sort of hero.

Conservatism used to rise above, not stoop to the lowest common denominator.

Just days after the joyous celebration of Easter, any message has been forgotten from the Gospel by so many commenting here as they race for the gutter to brawl with idiot teenagers.

Principled conservatism, lol

Humperdink said...

@ Mark: Recall: "“If you get hit, we will punch back twice as hard."?

Even though the democrat mantra is to punch back (and twice as hard), the elder citizen chose to respond in a non-lethal manner. Good for him. A hero indeed.

Xmas said...

Mark,

Conservatism is dead. The Left killed it by screaming down any conservative that wanted to have a rational debate. These are reactionaries. These are the people the conservatives were trying to protect the left from, the people who will punch back, the people who will seize the institutions built by the left and twist them to their own ends.

MadisonMan said...

I thought of this false charge when I read in the paper this morning the story about the bi-racial student at the UW who had an inflammatory racist note slid under her door.

VOIDH.

Michael K said...

""Pepper-spray and the Weasel" would perfectly describe the bastard."

Yes, the left really hates it when the right responds appropriately.

Humperdink said...

Mark, Trump is not a conservative, but he has risen to the top simply because of incidents such as the pepper spray confrontation. The commie-pinko lefty chick starts with F-bombs, then gets physical and guess what? Someone responds and puts the chick in full retreat.

In days past, lefties, the media and other assorted nut cases, have confronted, intimidated and accosted R's and C's with impunity. Trump has laid the ground work for pushing back. Recall Jorge Ramos getting the boot. The people on the right have had enough.

JCC said...

So the overweight, nasty-mouthed disrespectful teenager who somewhere learned that punching people is the correct response to disagreements is now caught is lying about a sexual assault too. Is that really a surprise? And someone else thought it would be funny or easy to get away with popping the obnoxious ballerina in the face with some pepper spray, that he brought with the hope of finding some protester to try it on. Is that a surprise either?

Welcome to traditional politics, upgraded to 21 century dialogue.

Paul said...

I suggest foam type pepper spray is the way to go to stop these assaults. It's quite directional and it has less chance of affecting near by innocent people.

If they swing their fist, spray 'em! And video the incident just to stop false accusations.

Brando said...

If she was the first to strike, she's in the wrong--I suppose if she tried filing assault spcharges against the pepper sprayer he can assert defense of others.

Moneyrunner said...

So what should be the punishment for aggravated assault. Is it still aggravated assault if the person striking the victim is a female? Do the statutes make a distinction between assault by gender? Just curious.

Bay Area Guy said...

I wish I was the Judge in this case:

"Will the Defendant please, rise? If I may paraphrase the great Dean Wormer from my favorite movie, Young Lady - fat, loud and stupid is no way to go through life. The fine is $25 dollars. Next case."

Jack Richardson said...

Even the protester who got pepper sprayed admitted, "I deserved that." Video at 1:00

loudogblog said...

The pepper spraying was uncalled for and wrong. If the girl had kept hitting and the use of the pepper spray seemed like the only way to get her to stop, I could see that. That wasn't the case here. She threw one punch and stopped; therefore, the pepper spray was not used in defense; it was a new attack.

Jason said...

Bullshit.

Nobody is obligated to wait for a second strike.

Mary E. Glynn said...

She threw one punch and stopped; therefore, the pepper spray was not used in defense; it was a new attack.
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She stopped and backed off only when someone used defensive resources to stop her...

Do you think physical violence committed by women or black people is less hurtful than physical violence by whites?

Why make excuses for physical violence?

Fernandinande said...

Good ole MSM!

google news [The girl who was pepper sprayed outside] all headlines on the first page of results say "teen girl sexually assaulted" "pepper sprayed" but no mention of her disorderly conduct. First result to mention it is on the 2nd page, from www.couriermail.com.au.

Humperdink said...

I laughed every time I watched it.

Mark said...

Xmas, you blame the downfall of Conservatives on the left?

Why can't you pull yourselves up your bootstraps?

Blaming others for your failure is the lamest excuse ever. Are you Trump saying 'he did it first?' ... like that, your excuse wouldn't fly if my second grader tried to use it.

Jason said...

I think "he did it first" is an EXCELLENT reason for an asskicking.

Only a naive, idiotic fool can't figure that out. It was good enough after Pearl Harbor, and has been the basis for strategic deterrence for generations.