November 5, 2012

Obama rally video.

Meade films Bruce Springsteen singing about never surrendering and a lefty anti-Obama protester with a sign that says "Where was Obama during the Wisconsin uprising (and the recall)???" Then Springsteen sings something that sounds to Meade like "land of broken dreams" — or was it "land of hope and dreams"? — and then Obama comes on the stage and gives Springsteen a hug and then gives him a second needy hug.



(Video will be up soon: here.)

132 comments:

Maguro said...

Oh, the collective bargaining protests have been upgraded to an "uprising"? Very exciting. Big time street cred for any and all participants, I'm sure.

gmama3 said...

One has to wonder how union households would answer pollsters. You never really know who is on the other side. I wouldn't assume all the "Democrat" early votes are Obama votes.

gmama3 said...

Did Meade have a crowd estimate? It is hard to tell from the video, but it doesn't look large.

Coketown said...

What was that movie--wait, no, that's happened in lots of movies, so it's a cliche now. That makes it easier because alluding to cliches is easy, while trying to remember specific movies is hard. I want to say "Equilibrium" but that was basically a montage of cliches. Anyway, it's not important. I'm thinking of that cliche: the cliche with the droning, echoing voice reverberating through empty streets, and the big head on the video screen. I didn't notice music--just that droning voice. Voooooote. Ooooobaaaaamaaaa. Vooooooote.

This video and that cliche. Yeah.

chickelit said...

Meade's video makes it clear that the crowd was largely confined to MLK Blvd off the square.

Maybe he said "Boulevard of broken dreams?"

Snark said...

You know, I love Springsteen. But there is just something strange and forlorn about this whole scene. I think I'd feel manipulated.

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chickelit said...

I gotta wonder if Springsteen imagines himself to be the anti-Dylan--someone who started out electric but is slowly regressing back to acoustic American folk music. He certainly is smitten with the wannabe Seeger/Guthrie role.

Speaking of real American musical legends, what's up with the Bob Dylan/Mark Knopfler show in Madison tonight?

rhhardin said...

I'd have gotten Gordon Lightfoot to do the wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald.

Inga said...

Why no shots of the crowd?

chickelit said...

Inga said...
Why no shots of the crowd?

You posted and linked those already this morning.

This is Meade's perspective.

Chip S. said...

Why no shots of the crowd?

Been there, done that.

Springsteen and Obama are the only people at the rally that Meade hasn't already videoed.

traditionalguy said...

Maybe the next Recall Walker will work now. After all, a has been from New Jersey can be used to excite the dwindling crowds against him.

That was more like a funeral than a Rally.

chickelit said...

Inga said...
Why no shots of the crowd?

MLK Blvd is a relatively short street off the square. If the crowd were huge, I'd have expected spillover onto the Square.

BarryD said...

Springsteen sings?

I was unaware of that...

Lem said...

Why no shots of the crowd?

Meade didn't set out to make an anti-Muslim video... and end up in prison.

Inga said...

Meade's perspective, exactly.

SAFVet said...

A commenter over on Big Government said that the crowd started leaving after Springsteen quit. Any comments?

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exiledonmainst said...

Boy, Bruce sure picked some really high energy numbers to get the crowd worked up.

The man needs some Exlax.

sydney said...

Sounded like Mr. Springsteen was suffering from hypothermia.

exiledonmainst said...

Compare and contrast:

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/11/04/Gigantic-Rally-For-Romney-In-PA

Ellen said...

Zero energy.
It's feeling to me like the Facebook IPO.
Been there. Done that.
Ultreia!

Titus said...

M GET A JOB.

Lem said...

The YouTube video has a Category: Pets & Animals

ugly?

For the pets I mean ;)

edutcher said...

I've seen wakes that were more fun.

garage mahal said...

Meade's video makes it clear that the crowd was largely confined to MLK Blvd off the square.

Yes, they were confined by buildings. I took that around around 10:00 looking east down MLK to the Terrace.

Or, I could have taken a picture of a patch of lawn somewhere and said it wasn't a fun rally at all. Subdued!

It looks to me Meadehouse was looking for some link love today.

Eric Jablow said...

It's "Land of Hope and Dreams".

chickelit said...

OK OK nobody else is biting, but I just find it ironic that Bob Dylan--who arguably had a much greater impact on American Civil Rights than either of those two poseurs did--is playing the same night in the same town.

Some people just are what others pretend to be.

Ellen said...

Props to Meade for the artistic chopper shot.

chickelit said...

One performer is out there humpin' it to make a living while the other two guys are just hogging O2.

Rose said...

Love the black helicopter scene.

Honestly, no matter what party you are, how do you stand there and hear Obama say 'the economy is roaring back' and not cringe?

I'm very hopeful about tomorrow. And, then, the day after tomorrow.

Lem said...
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Paco Wové said...

"Did Meade have a crowd estimate?"

Well, it's not Meade, but NPR said something about 18,000 on the radio this evening.

Lem said...

Why no shots of the crowd?

Meade is probably recognised from the Recall protest... had he gone in... up close to the crowd, he might have attracted attention to himself and we would be here criticizing him for that.

If he didn't go in up close... that was the right call.

Mary Beth said...

Kind of dirge-like.

Lem said...

Damned if you do and damned if you dont.

exiledonmainst said...

Titus, what business is it of yours if Meade works or not? He's not mooching off of you.

Really, dear, you're reminding me more and more of:

http://www.fanpop.com/spots/bewitched/images/1092911/title/bewitched-gladys-kravitz-wallpaper

exiledonmainst said...

And Gladys Kravitz is not hot at all.

chickelit said...

exiledonmainst said...
And Gladys Kravitz is not hot at all.

Every community has a Mrs. Kravitz and a Marxist Cat Lady.

roesch/voltaire said...

I talked with a number of others, beside Meade, who retired and who attended the rally. they said it was subdued but that about 18,000 showed up.

deborah said...

I guess the college was more of a captive audience.

alan markus said...

If we are lucky, this video will be the final chapter of the clown show that has been Madison for too long.

800,000+ views on the Althouse YouTube channel & have not opted for monetization? My measly 10 videos generate about $10 a month for me. Of course, that will end with the political season.

Michael Haz said...

You know, I love Springsteen. But there is just something strange and forlorn about this whole scene.

Bingo.

Methadras said...

The second needy hug was the last one he will get from him.

edutcher said...

Interesting line from Pat Caddell on O'Really, "WI had its Presidential election this spring".

Methadras said...

sydney said...

Sounded like Mr. Springsteen was suffering from hypothermia.


He must have written a farewell note as he was leaving New Jersey about having to steal their guitar and few blankets and jackets to warm him brain up from the cold and to tell his mistress, er, wife that he loves her as he rides down into Urkelville for the last time. A farewell tour of sorts.

bagoh20 said...

That's like watching a scene from "A Mighty Wind", but without the edge and energy.

Methadras said...

Snark said...

You know, I love Springsteen. But there is just something strange and forlorn about this whole scene. I think I'd feel manipulated.


It's the finality of knowing you and your entire ideology just shot its last wad on nothing but farce and con.

wildswan said...

Today I got ten calls from the RNC,(some said unknown number, some said California or DC call), none of which I responded to though I picked up the phone to listen to the message. So that was less than a 9% response.

Then a Democratic worker came by and asked someone here if they had voted (yes); and directly asked if that person had voted for Obama!( which is "nobody's dirty business" as the song says). Then the Democratic campaign worker asked for another person who lives here, asked by name, and whether that person had voted. Just a little creepy.
"The beauty parlor's filled with sailors/ The circus is in town/ ... And the riot squad they're restless/ They need some place to go/ As lady and I look out tonight/ On Desolation Row." I guess if the Dems can bring in Bruce Springsteen, I can go back in time also. "Desolation Row" matches my feeling tonight though I'm not sure why.

deborah said...

lol Meth. That was cold.

bagoh20 said...

"You know, I love Springsteen. But there is just something strange and forlorn about this whole scene."

The carnage will be over soon, and this guy can stop dragging most of our artists, journalists, pundits and celebrities down with him. If you are in one of those groups and you made it through the last four years without making a fool of yourself, I congratulate you. It was worth it.

Lem said...

Rose said...

And, then, the day after tomorrow.

I'm feeling a chill going up my leg.

(I cant believe we let that line site there for over half an hour)

R. Chatt said...

Obama's voice is sounding worn out, emotional, desperate. Romney's voice is clear, buoyant, rational.

And yet the electoral college numbers seem to favor Obama slightly.

Pogo said...

"...strange and forlorn"

Bet Springsteen never thought that the character in his songs he'd most likely become was Charles Starkweather.

"I can't say that Im sorry for the things that we done
At least for a little while sir me and her we had us some fun.
"

Lem said...

Tonight is the last night Obama will go to bed with the assurance that he will wake up president... because even if you say... well, he still president during the transition... those are going to be the two longest months of his life.

If you say (since we are on an iffity kick) he had to wait two months to take the oath... waiting while explaining how you won and what you are going to do first is a starkly different picture of waiting while explaining how you lost and what you are going to do next.

Chip Ahoy said...

My British friends cannot understand how we might possibly elect someone that only 7% of the rest of the world supports and I'm all hahahaha that's how, quit making my arguments for me because I don't need any. And whose minister's ass I didn't elect did you pull your 7% figure? 'Cause it stinks.

Ali Karim Bey said...

Just had dinner with Super-K-Streeters, DNC, and WH staffers.

WE are all pleased. We are going to destroy Romney and the GOP tomorrow.

POTUS is so happy. We are planning the United Socialist America parties across the nation.

GOP: You are on notice. REVENGE is a dish best served cold.

roesch/voltaire said...

Rather then attending the Dylan concert, I spent some time canvassing and passed out the NYT editorial that stated: "This year, voting is more than just the core responsibility of citizenship; it is an act of defiance against malicious political forces determined to reduce access to democracy"That got folks attention and many promised to go vote, and I hope for Obama.

Lem said...

There is a good chance Althouse went to see Bob Dylan tonight.

How do I know?

Nate Silver puts it at 86.3 percent.

Paco Wové said...

Because remember, children, if people disagree with you about politics, they're not mistaken, they're EVIL.

alan markus said...

waiting while explaining how you won and what you are going to do first

Wonder if he will have an "Office of the President-Reelect"? With a nifty seal & website.

Barry Dauphin said...

Springsteen Trots Out Settlement in Horse Lawsuit

Jose Lambiet of the PALM BEACH POST reports that the rock legend paid $200,000 to Florida horseman Todd Minikus, after reneging on a deal to buy a steed for Bruce’s 15-year-old daughter, Jennifer.

Minikus took Springsteen to court when the Boss didn’t go through with the $850,000 purchase of 10-year-old gelding Pavarotti. But the Springsteens apparently were put off by the horse’s poor showing at the Pan American Games, and decided Pavarotti wasn’t going to help Jennifer’s fledgling equestrian career.
A source close to the settlement said that the Boss “doesn’t have much of a stomach for a legal battle. He’s not a fighter.”


At least he'll have something to talk about with the Romneys when they invite him to the White House.

William said...

When you charge $500 for concert tickets you don't want to offer your A game and best material at a freebie venue....Nonetheless, Springsteen has had impact on the race. Inside word has it that Chrystie was suborned by an offer of backstage passes to the next five Springsteen concerts.

kurt mueller said...

Frequent Althouse reader here, rare poster. I have been out of touch for a week and don't feel like searching through all the old posts so please somebody tell me what we all want to know -- has Althouse declared (and atoned)?

Chip Ahoy said...

Why are people asking about Meade not recording the crowd? Did you watch the video? The crowd is shown on the big screen in the video.

Maybe Meade did get the crowd but they were gray, or they all wore shoes made of unnatural materials, or they were all fat or looked like dingy Michelin tire characters in puffy coats, or they were ugly, or maybe one had a penis growing out of his head where an ear should be and it would be distracting and rude to include those images so Meade kindly edited out those unsightly clips so that our attention is shrewdly focused on the unsoundly music instead. Gawd I hate that music.

I was looking at his hands way back there and his fist is clamped on the fret board and the other hand is going strumstrumstrum strumstrumstrummy strumstrum

edutcher said...

Lem said...

There is a good chance Althouse went to see Bob Dylan tonight.

If she did, I hope she and Meade are having tons of fun.

The last 2 years, she has put in a lot of work and tomorrow the victory will be partly hers.

AprilApple said...

If you see vote fraud -Report it.

Triangle Man said...

W got his "mandate" in 2004 with 286 electoral college votes and 50.7% of the popular vote. I wonder if we will see another mandate tomorrow.

AReasonableMan said...

edutcher said...
The last 2 years, she has put in a lot of work and tomorrow the victory will be partly hers.


This is an interesting way of framing things. Essentially acknowledging that Althouse is a Republican party hack.

Lem said...

If Romney wins Wisconsin, one reason will be native son Paul Ryan, but another will be the unsuccessful attempt by government employees unions to recall Republican Gov. Scott Walker. His counterattack created a durable political infrastructure.

Something very likely not included in Nate Silver's algorithm.

gmama3 said...

That doesn't look anything like 18,000 to me, especially in the shots by the port-a-potties, looking over the crowd.

Bruce really fired them up.

Triangle Man said...

Why would Romney be polling so poorly in Wisconsin if that was the case Lem?

AReasonableMan said...

Lem said...
Something very likely not included in Nate Silver's algorithm.


Why all the hate for Nate Silver? Is not like he says Romney has no chance of winning. Currently he has him winning with a probability of 8.6%. You would take those odds for a lottery ticket or maybe even a horse race. He is not simply dismissing Romney's chances, in fact he says he has a chance, just a relatively small one.

Chuck66 said...

I would ask Bruce Springsteen why one of his heros is the domestic terrorist Tim McVeigh. No, not him, Bruce loves domestic terrorist Billy Ayres.

He also humps the leg of the Stalin fan...what is is his name? The really old guy who started supporting Stalin back when Stalin was still trying to exterminate the Jew.

Lem said...

Why would Romney be polling so poorly in Wisconsin if that was the case Lem?

It could be the cumulative effect of a number of things...

Not the least of which is the cell phone to land line phone ratio accounted for in the polls and which of those was favored... you have to look at the internal numbers... did they sample more democrats for example.

leslyn said...

AReasonableMan said... edutcher said... The last 2 years, she has put in a lot of work and tomorrow the victory will be partly hers.

"This is an interesting way of framing things. Essentially acknowledging that Althouse is a Republican party hack."

I wish we could put "Likes" on these posts. They'd be so much more reliable than internal polling.

Triangle Man said...

Nate has Romney's chances down to 7.8% as of the last update. 3.1% to win Wisconsin. Less than 9% to win Ohio.

somefeller said...

Why all the hate for Nate Silver?

Nate Silver graduated from a top university (University of Chicago), writes for the New York Times and doesn't tell conservatives what they want to hear. Thus, all the hate. The fact that he is gay probably doesn't help with a nontrivial subset of conservatives, either.

Lem said...

Why all the hate for Nate Silver?

What word do you use to describe something truly hateful?

I'm not answering any more of your questions.

leslyn said...

Lem said,

"..not the least of which is the cell phone to land line phone ratio...."

Are you serious, Lem? Pray tell how this works.

joeyconnell said...

I talked with a number of others, beside Meade, who retired and who attended the rally. they said it was subdued but that about 18,000 showed up.

Do you just make shit up as you go along? You expect anyone to believe that:

a) You asked complete strangers, unprovoked, to assess the size of a crowd and;

b) Everyone one of them gave an estimate around 18,000?

Is crowd estimation part of the elementary school curriculum in Madison? Right after multiplication tables you learn to estimate crowd sizes? And then for the rest of your life you have an irrepressible urge to both guess the size of large crowds and ask fellow Madisonians to guess the size of nearby crowds? It's like a secret handshake. How do you tell someone grew up in Madison? They're insufferable and are good at guessing crowd sizes.

It's such horseshit! Quit making things up!

Lem said...

The younger the person sampled the more chances he/she will be contacted via a cell phone.

Age is an important data point to pollsters.

Lem said...

The younger the Wisconsin voter the more likelihood he is voting for Obama.. I say that is specially true near the University.

edutcher said...

somefeller said...

Why all the hate for Nate Silver?

Nate Silver graduated from a top university (University of Chicago), writes for the New York Times and doesn't tell conservatives what they want to hear. Thus, all the hate. The fact that he is gay probably doesn't help with a nontrivial subset of conservatives, either.


Try again.

The Lefties invoke him as if he were Salvation itself, mostly as a method of spreading FUD, particularly after the issue of polling skews arose. Most of the Silver references seemed only to need, "Be afraid. Be very afraid".

I've followed Rasmussen because he seems about as objective as pollsters get - although some of his twists and turns the last couple of weeks have mystified me.

As for Silver's sexual proclivities, I'm willing to bet more people know about him being one of the KosKidz.

And, if we're talking who graduated from what universities, so did Romney, McCain, and Dubya, so the churlishness of that reference is self-evident.

chickelit said...

Triangle Man said...
Nate has Romney's chances down to 7.8% as of the last update. 3.1% to win Wisconsin. Less than 9% to win Ohio.

The biggest tell that N8 Ag is full of it is not his alleged accuracy but rather his precision--too many sig figs in those numbers.

Lyle said...

Obama looks tired.

leslyn said...

Lem said,

The younger the Wisconsin voter the more likelihood he is voting for Obama.. I say that is specially true near the University.

Lem, you have to adjust your assumptions. Walker did everything he could to ensure that university students could not prove residency. Granted, he couldn't remove all forms of proof because that would disenfranchised the electorate, but he got his digs in at the students.

edutcher said...

I don't doubt they both are.

As are we all.

Drago said...

Triangle Man: "W got his "mandate" in 2004 with 286 electoral college votes and 50.7% of the popular vote. I wonder if we will see another mandate tomorrow."

All obama has to do is carry the House of Representatives for the dems and you can have all the mandate you want.

wyo sis said...

It would really streamline the whole process if we could
enthusiastically endorse,
like,
dislike,
you asshole,
die burning in hell,
the comments here, but for now we'll have to make the effort to respond personally each time we feel emotional.

Triangle Man said...

Silver's model did really well in 2008, calling 49 of 50 states. It remains to be seen if the accuracy holds up this time around. The smart money would be on Obama, but Romney does have a chance.

The criticism over significant figures is nonsense. If something has a 1 in 1,000 chance of occurring, it is 0.1%. That doesn't imply more or less certainty about the precision of the estimate.

Drago said...

leslyn: "Walker did everything he could to ensure that university students could not prove residency."

LOL

Apparently Walker was out there stealing utility bills, birth certificates and blocking doorways so students couldn't check into their domiciles.

What a tragedy.

I guess there isn't a provisional ballot capability in Wisconsin either.

Why, it's just like nazi germany in Madison WI.

Lem said...

If the presidential Elction had been held in 2010 Obama would have lost.

What has Obama done since then to turn it around?

Kill Bin Laden... (he didn't even get a scratch) and Obamacare.

How is Obamacare polling?

RCP Average 7/9 - 10/28
41.4 favor
48.6 oppose

Against/Oppose +7.2

Chip S. said...

You forgot "I'd like to have sex with this comment."

Chip S. said...

Wow, a triple-comment-cockblock!

Ali Karim Bey said...

There are THREE experts in POLICY and POLITICS:

- Nate Silver of NYT
- Sasha Issenberg of Slate
- Ezra Klien of JournoList and WashPost

They all say that Obama will win. I will go by their decision. I simply trust them. So, should you.

wyo sis said...

Chip S how could I have left that out. Inga would be lost without that.

Drago said...

Triange Man: "Silver's model did really well in 2008, calling 49 of 50 states."

LOL

Silver was given the real internal polls by the obama campaign in 2008 which is why he did "really well".

Which, by the way, he did not divulge during the campaign.

In other words, the real, no kidding pollsters who were provided sufficient funds for real likely voter screens simply handed their work over to silver so silver could turn it in as his homework.

But hey, whatever.

Drago said...

somefeller: "Nate Silver graduated from a top university (University of Chicago), writes for the New York Times and doesn't tell conservatives what they want to hear. Thus, all the hate. The fact that he is gay probably doesn't help with a nontrivial subset of conservatives, either."

Mitt Romney graduated with honors with a double graduate degree (in Law and Business) and doesn't tell liberals what they want to hear. Thus, all the hate. The fact that he isn't gay doesn't help with a very nontrivial subset of liberals, either.

FIFY

garage mahal said...

Silver was given the real internal polls by the obama campaign in 2008 which is why he did "really well".

LQQK ----> This~~!

Every other winner that predicted '08 without those internals just got lucky is all.

Drago said...

garage: "Every other winner that predicted '08 without those internals just got lucky is all."

Why are you so upset that silver was provided obama's internal polls in 2008 and did not tell anyone at the time?

Is that GWBush's fault too?

What if I said "silver inherited obama's internal polls", would that make it more palatable?

Lem said...

Walker did everything he could to ensure that university students could not prove residency. Granted, he couldn't remove all forms of proof because that would disenfranchised the electorate, but he got his digs in at the students.

If thats true then they are definitely voting for Obama... as instructed by Obama himself... to get revenge.

As far as the Wisconsin polls then... and how they might not be reflecting reality... oversampling the students is skewing the numbers towards an Obama bias.

I don't know for a fact if that is happening. I'm only speculating as to how the ultimate result (tomorrow) might not be showing up in the polling we have been digesting... and giving me belly aches.

Chip S. said...

Nate Silver's technique could yield incorrect results this year w/o any conscious bias on his part. It's in his methodology.

As I understand it, one of the key determinants of the weight he gives to each pollster is its accuracy in the most recent comparable election. In the case of the 2012 presidential race, this means disproportionate weight is given to the results from pollsters who accurately predicted the 2008 presidential results.

I think it's been established that the main reason for different poll results is different likely-voter screens. In that case, the pollsters who did best in 2008 were the ones predicting unusually high Dem turnout. If those pollsters are simply better at predicting likely voters, then Silver's weights will work fine this year.

But if those are just pollsters who tend to predict high Dem turnout, then a return to more usual turnout rates will mean Silver's technique is biased.

We'll find out soon enough which it is.

chickelit said...

The criticism over significant figures is nonsense. If something has a 1 in 1,000 chance of occurring, it is 0.1%.

Suppose that "thing" actually has 10 in 1,000 chance of occurring. It still seems remote, yet it makes his vaunted precision a joke. The accuracy of the number is N8 Ag's patented stock in trade. There have to be error bars associate with any input numbers and must carry through to error bars in his outcomes.

If he's right tomorrow, I'll eat crow. If he's wrong, I'll join the chorus of boos and point to the absurd levels of confidence he placed in his numbers--not just his accuracy but also precision.

Lem said...

How does Silver measure and inputs enthusiasm... for example.

The enthusiasm for Obama of 2008 is not there in 2012.

If Nate Silver does have an enthusiasm quotient in his algorithms... I'm really curious as to how he arrived at it.

Enthusiasm is the hidden dragon of this election.

Drago said...

Chip: "But if those are just pollsters who tend to predict high Dem turnout, then a return to more usual turnout rates will mean Silver's technique is biased."

Most of the MSM polls used a single question likely voter screen (self identified) which is basically not a likely voter screen since about 95% of all poll-ee's tend to say that they will vote when we know from actual data that close to 40% of registered voters don't actually vote (about 38% in 2008 and about 39% in 2006 did not vote).

Lem said...

What Chip S just said.

Drago said...

What Lem just said about what Chip just said.

Blazing Saddles: "Dr. Samuel Johnson's Right About Olson Johnson Being Right"

garage mahal said...

Nate Silver: It could be a bet-based, popular opinion poll driven type thing, or sorcery.

I go back and forth all the time.

What to do!

Drago said...

Lem: "If Nate Silver does have an enthusiasm quotient in his algorithms... I'm really curious as to how he arrived at it."

It's a complete swag.

Not that there's anything wrong with that.

It simply is what it is.

edutcher said...

AnUnreasonableTroll said...

The last 2 years, she has put in a lot of work and tomorrow the victory will be partly hers.

This is an interesting way of framing things. Essentially acknowledging that Althouse is a Republican party hack.


Sure, that's why she's taken 4 years of static for voting for Zero last time out.

Troll can't stand the fact that she's told the truth the last couple of years.

(actually, she's always called 'em like she saw 'em, but OMMV)

Drago said...

garage: "Nate Silver: It could be a bet-based, popular opinion poll driven type thing, or sorcery.

I go back and forth all the time."

Everyone is.

I've never seen so many pollsters tepidly tip-toeing around this thing.

Everyone, and I mean everyone, is sounding off with bluster and confidence but you can tell none of them are truly confident.

They are all hedging their bets.

Everyone is seeking shelter in the "it's a margin of error election!!!eleventy"

If obama loses, even silver will default to "see, there's that 1 in 10 thing I was talking about!"

It really has been an amazing campaign.

bagoh20 said...
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bagoh20 said...

"Why all the hate for Nate Silver?"

We love our moonbats - they are rare and delicate flowers which we must carefully manage, and knowing how poorly they take losing elections, we don't want them to get hurt. Silver is not doing them any favors, by feeding them his junk food. He knows it's not good for them, and he knows they will suck it up anyway. He's making a killing off it, and that just seem exploitative and cruel. That's why we hate - because we love too much.

Drago said...

I should have added that all the traditional "cues" we take from enthusiasm, early voting, party id, the economic environment indicate Romney will win...but...but....

...there's that nagging uncertainty that perhaps, this time, everything will be different.

The exception that proves the rule as it were.

Only 24 more hours.....(hopefully)...

Lem said...

I knew I was throwing a softball with that sentence.

Drago said...

AnUnreasonableTroll: "This is an interesting way of framing things. Essentially acknowledging that Althouse is a Republican party hack."

Hmmmm, Althouse voted for obama in 2008 didn't she?

Bolsheviks always hated the Mensheviks and eventually had the Menshevik party outlawed.

You know, an unreasonableman wet dream.

bagoh20 said...

If Nate silver said that Obama had a 100% chance of winning, what would you say to that? How about 99.9%? 86.3% is not much different, especially when you realize he knows the polls are pretty much even, and that the Dems are clearly not going to vote in the strength they did in '08. You know it - everyone knows it.

Obama can win, but the idea that it's that likely is clearly either delusional or selling delusion with great success. Do you think being Nate Silver would be anywhere near as lucrative if he was trying to sell a 50/50 prediction? Follow the money.

mike said...

What the heck is he singing? It's morose, droning, and unintelligible. Is that what the Democrats think is going to motivate the lemmings to go to the polls?

David said...

Obama? Needy? Who knew?

Drago said...

mike: "Is that what the Democrats think is going to motivate the lemmings to go to the polls."

It just might motivate them to move the hell away from there and they might pass a polling station as they egress!

Of course, it won't matter because, according to leslyn, Scott Walker has placed barricades and police dogs in front of polling stations near the campus.

You know, just like nazi germany.

Drago said...

David: "Obama? Needy? Who knew?"

Shut up and give choom another Nobel and/or Grammy!!

Stat!

rcommal said...

OMG! First time ever: Dixville Notch, NH, has a tied vote for president.

Seriously. 5-5.

Kelly said...

zzzzzzz. Meatloaf at the Romney rally may not have had the cool factor for the aging hipsters, but at least he was fired up. What's with the Springsteen angst?

Chip S. said...

Dixville Notch, NH, has a tied vote for president.

Seriously. 5-5.


That means turnout is down by 76.19% among former Obama voters!

chickelit said...

Lem said:

Enthusiasm is the hidden dragon of this election.

wyo sis said...

You can't quantify or poll for disallusion. No I didn't misspell that.

run19 said...

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Clyde said...

That "land of broken dreams" song is the one that got played to death on Fox and TBS during the baseball playoffs, giving me an acute case of Bruce-fatigue.

Thank God they changed it up to The Who for the World Series.

And speaking of The Who, today's theme song is "We Don't Get Fooled Again"!

jim murray said...

Springsteen and Obama...two one-note celebs who got where they are by hype.

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