February 3, 2012

Scott Walker supporters advocate writing in Scott Walker's name in the primary that will determine who will be his recall opponent.

A devious notion!
It started as a conversation on Facebook, but less than a week ago [it became] the page Operation: Write in Scott Walker in Democrat Primary...
And it's got 834 "likes" as I write this.
Wisconsin's system of open primaries means voters do not have to share a political party's affiliation to vote in its primary. So, there's nothing to stop Republicans from voting in a Democratic recall primary — and from writing in Walker's name.

If this effort were successful, it's unclear what the effect would be on the general recall election. The Government Accounability Board was contacted Friday, but didn't immediately provide an answer....

When asked about his initial impression of the write-in campaign, Wisconsin Democratic Party Spokesman Graeme Zielinksi said it was, “Surprise, then laughter.” Zielinski said the effort has no chance of succeeding.

“Republicans seem frightened by democracy and the will of the people and, given what Scott Walker has done to ruin Wisconsin, they should be,” Zielinski said.
Ha ha. I'm laughing too!

ADDED: I'm working on a parody "I'm My Own Recall Opponent," to the tune of "I'm My Own Grandpa." ("I'm My Own Grandpa" lyrics here.)

AND: I like the diagrammed version:



(The voice there is Ray Stevens. The first version, above, was Grandpa Jones. The second one... ?)

134 comments:

edutcher said...

Sneaky, underhanded, totally disrespectful of the process.

I love it.

tim maguire said...

I can only imagine the viciousness of the political race where both candidates know where all the skeletons are buried. Plus it'll split the pro-Walker vote.

PaulV said...

Will one Walker concede?

Calypso Facto said...

“Republicans seem frightened by democracy and the will of the people and, given what Scott Walker has done to ruin Wisconsin, they should be,”

He just might piss off enough people to make it a reality.

Mr. Zielinski obviously shares his "uncle's" affinity for making a complete wreck of a situation: [after a car crashes into a wall during a crash test] "God, I love that." Ray Zalinsky, in the movie Tommy Boy

Hunter said...

Worth a laugh, but that's about it.

For this ploy to actually succeed, there would have to be a sustained organized effort supporting it, and that organized effort would reflect badly on Walker in the recall election.

I doubt he would actually encourage this.

robinintn said...

Operation Chaos!

Michael Haz said...

In the event of a Dem primary between Falk and Barrett, I will vote for Kathleen Falk.

I can't tell how I know this, but I know it - the internal campaign polling shows Walker CRUSHING Falk. Walker even carries parts of Dane County; the rural areas where voters are fed up with double-digit annual property tax increases.

Scott M said...

“Republicans seem frightened by democracy and the will of the people and, given what Scott Walker has done to ruin Wisconsin, they should be

Of course, the irony of the fleebaggers and what that does to democracy has no affect on him?

Jay said...

“Republicans seem frightened by democracy and the will of the people and, given what Scott Walker has done to ruin Wisconsin, they should be,”

What a hysterical bit of projection that guy got going.

By the way, the "ruin" is saving teacher jobs and bringing the state budget back to fiscal health.

Leftists never miss an opportunity to beclown themselves.

Palladian said...

Republicans seem frightened by democracy and the will of the people

Funny, because it's the Democrats who are trying to overturn the results of a legitimate election.

traditionalguy said...

If a Scott Walker wins by write-in vote, Garage will simply file a legal name change to become Scott Walker.

In Wisconsin politics that would be expected.

Then in the re-call election , Scott (Garage) Walker could accidentally get credited the votes intended for the original Scott Walker.

But have no fear because after that another re-call petition will be circulated by the losing side.

Fen said...

"Racists blah Koch Brothers blah blah Death to Capitalism blah Poor Little Public Sector Unions blah blah Conservatives Evil blah Each According To His Needs blah blah blah Bush Sucks blah Obama Saves!"

There. Just thought we could get that out of the way for Shiloh and the other libtards.

George Grady said...

I don't understand the process here. Is there an official Democratic primary? If so, will other political parties also get to nominate someone to run in the recall election? Or will there only be one candidate who will get to run against Walker, who this "primary" is going to determine?

Ann Althouse said...

If everyone can vote in what will be an open primary, those who support Walker and choose to vote will have to decide between this write-in prank/strategy or the person least likely to defeat Walker.

Or... let's be fair... the person who would make the best Governor in the event that Walker is defeated.

TCB-n-a-Flash said...

Once the flee-baggers left for Illinois all bets were off. Now it is anything goes. Even turning in forged and fake names on petitions to say there's 1 Million.

I think it would be hilarious if Walker just got enough write in votes in a Dem Primary just to get an honorable mention.

MadisonMan said...

What would happen if the Democratic Candidate was actually named Scott Walker?

Has there ever been a race with two identically-named candidates?

Jay said...

***HEADLINE TALKING POINTS MEMO***

The TPM has what appears to be a secret audio recording of Scott Walker being instructed by the Koch Brothers to write himself in as a candidate in his own recall election.

Zo-My-God!!!!

millionaires & billionaires!!!

traditionalguy said...

I say write in Mitch Daniels. He is also a hateful union destroyer. That would send a message.

alan markus said...

Plus it'll split the pro-Walker vote.

They would be voting in the Democrat primary (which determines who runs against Walker), and then they would vote for Walker in the election.

Tyrone Slothrop said...

“Republicans seem frightened by democracy and the will of the people and, given what Scott Walker has done to ruin Wisconsin, they should be,” Zielinski said.

Saith the spokesman for the party seeking to nullify a duly-held election. Do liberals have no self knowledge at all?

garage mahal said...

Funny, because it's the Democrats who are trying to overturn the results of a legitimate election.

There was no photo ID for that election. We all know what that means.

I want to know if Scott Walker signed a recall petition. There is Scott Walker realtor in Wisconsin that wants people to know that he's "not that Scott Walker".

damikesc said...

Perhaps Dems should have had a candidate. It wouldn't be the first time Walker cleaned up a mess left by Dems.

Steve Koch said...

Definitely Walker should encourage and organize the write in campaign because it will save Wisconsin a lot of money if Walker wins. The dem vote will be split many ways. The GOP vote has an obvious single candidate, Walker. Since the recall campaign is already an abuse of the election process, sabotaging the recall process is a good thing that will discourage future such abuses.

purplepenquin said...

Given the amount of dirty tricks (and flat-out violent attacks) that Walker supporters have already engaged in, it is no surprise that some of 'em are openly advocating for this type of nonsense.

If ya'll are so sure that most people in Wisconsin truly do support Walker, then why the need for this type of cheating?

Sigivald said...

Republicans seem frightened by democracy and the will of the people

I'd love to hear her comments on what happens when Democrat supporters "hack" petitions in similar ways.

That's Just Different, I'm sure.

(Hasn't the Will of the People, as revealed by elections, shown Walker to be in pretty good shape...?)

Alex said...

The person who would make the best governor for Wisconsin would be the head of the union. We should bring back 100% unionization and unicorns will abound.

Alex said...

Garage Mahal for Governor!

purplepenquin said...

seeking to nullify a duly-held election

Doesn't every election "nullify" the previous election?

chickenlittle said...

There was no photo ID for that election. We all know what that means.

It just means that even with cheating gone wild, the Dems lost.

Gloom and doom for you in The Fall™

Scott M said...

Since the recall campaign is already an abuse of the election process, sabotaging the recall process is a good thing that will discourage future such abuses.

I disagree, as much as I disagree with the concept of recall elections. If a recall is in the state's legal code and it's being proceeded under that umbrella, then it is what it is and you have to deal with it. Going down the "by any means necessary" route makes you no better than them.

Win again and legally remove the language that allows recalls when you can.

Alex said...

Photo ID = racism. Gotta love librul logic.

alan markus said...

The other day we saw a post about how Obama isn't faring so well in critical swing states. I wonder what the national Democrat leaders are thinking about their WI counterparts right now? Something along the lines that there isn't a bus big enough to throw them all under? Betcha they won't mind Walker losing to a "weak" candidate so that they can minimize and rationalize away the implications of a Walker victory.

Curious George said...

Wow 884 people on facebook. Of course we know that it's enough to make the Penquin wet it's pants...but this a just a joke.

That said, if there is a closely contested Democratic primary, then the GOP will almost certainly decide who Walker's opponent will be. Open primaries will allow Walker supporters to vote in the Democratic primary.

"KATHLEEN FALK FOR GOVERNOR OF MADISON" here we come!!!

Maguro said...

But what about the routers, garage? Tell us how the secret routers fit into all this. Enquiring minds wamt to know.

Don't Tread 2012 said...

"“Republicans seem frightened by democracy and the will of the people and, given what Scott Walker has done to ruin Wisconsin, they should be,” Zielinski said."

Democrats seem frightened by democracy and the will of the people and, given what Scott Walker has done to save Wisconsin, they shouldn't be.

//fixed

Hilarious diagrammed video, I needed that after a long day of dealing with untold stupes. Thanks.

Tyrone Slothrop said...

purplepenquin said...

Given the amount of dirty tricks (and flat-out violent attacks) that Walker supporters have already engaged in, it is no surprise that some of 'em are openly advocating for this type of nonsense.


Yeah they should have acted more like those sweet, peaceful anti-Walker angels

garage mahal said...

But what about the routers, garage? Tell us how the secret routers fit into all this. Enquiring minds wamt to know.

Sure, here you go. Lots of material there. One wonders if Walker will have his own complaint filed against him by the State of Wisconsin, eh? Might have an impact on the recalls? Naahhh!

Alex said...

garage - yeah right I'm really gonna trust a web site called "Walker Files". When is the indictment coming?

edutcher said...

purplepenquin said...

seeking to nullify a duly-held election

Doesn't every election "nullify" the previous election?


Only if a Republican succeeds a Democrat.

Don't Tread 2012 said...

garage, really?

You're going to cite a political hack website for your strawman charges? I'm not saying its below you, but if you are going to make pancakes you need more than gruel as an ingredient.

Sheesh.

Alex said...

if there was anything to the "secret routers" story you'd think the Communist Madison media would be all over it, no?

Alex said...

Only if a Republican succeeds a Democrat.

In garage's little Communist world - Republicans are not allowed to exist.

purplepenquin said...

sweet, peaceful anti-Walker angels

Your link requires people to register for the site in order to view the article. That said, I'm aware of the boo-birds/yellers...and have also scolded 'em for doing so.

Are you aware of the spitters, the punchers, the camera-destroyers, the petition vandalizers, the rock-throwers, the stalkers who call Recall Supporters at home, and the people who were passing around petitions they had no intentions of actually turning in?

If are aware of what those Walker supporters were doing, then have you had anything at all to say about their tactics and methods?

Ann Althouse said...

"Wow 884 people on facebook. Of course we know that it's enough to make the Penquin wet it's pants...but this a just a joke."

Speaking of jokes... remember that time people voted for Jesse Ventura for Governor of Minnesota? Ha ha. That was hilarious.

garage mahal said...

You're going to cite a political hack website for your strawman charges?

I linked it because it has the actual complaints there, in one location. Where it says "State of Wisconsin vs. "

purplepenquin said...

yeah right I'm really gonna trust a web site called "Walker Files".

You think they are lying about the State filing charges against the people mentioned and those court documents they have scanned in are simply fakes?

Don't Tread 2012 said...

"I linked it because it has the actual complaints there, in one location."

Anyone can FILE any complaint they want, garage - yes, even politically-motivated, bullshit ones. Like the complaints you voice on this here website, all the time.

No indictment? Take it down the road.

Alex said...

Like I said garage, show me the indictment. Anyone can file a complaint and we know the anti-Walker forces are dripping with cash.

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Patrick said...

"Speaking of jokes... remember that time people voted for Jesse Ventura for Governor of Minnesota? Ha ha. That was hilarious."

Maybe hilarious for you. You didn't live here!

garage mahal said...

Those ARE indictments.

Maybe some of law types that hang around here could expound further.

Alex said...
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Alex said...

oops:

The complaint also shows an email Walker himself sent in May 2010 in reaction to the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel reporting that Wink was apparently doing partisan political work while working for the county.

“We cannot afford another story like this one,” Walker says in the email he sent Russell. “No one can give them any reason to do another story. That means no laptops, no websites, no time away during the work day, etc.”


Busted.

Mike said...

Doesn't every election "nullify" the previous election?

I don't think you understand what nullify means. There is orderly succession by regularly held elections and there is this hissy-fit recall-turd that Union bosses have foisted upon the citizens of Wisconsin. Sure you can get signatures, because people are kind enough to sign, often only because someone asks them to. I know. I've worked in elections.

Explain this to me Penguin. If there is no rule AGAINST writing in Walker's name, and the voters that choose to write him in are legal voters in WI, then what is the harm?

These citizens who wish to write in Scott Walker are doing nothing morally or legally wrong. It may be a joke, it may not be. But it's part of the process when you open up a can of worms. And this recall is a big, writhing can of worms.

Democrats in Washington see the flakes in Madison and how they are using up precious funding to run this stupid recall election, which they will lose. And in the end all it will do is serve to drain the Union coffers (YAY!) and weaken confidence in the State legislators who (1) fled the state to avoid doing their jobs but (2) want you to put more of their friends back into the Statehouse.

That serves one ultimate outcome. Walker is strengthened and has a "vote of confidence" from the public and may even increase Republican representation in the State legislature come November.

Great job all around, Progressives! Huzzah!

Jay said...

purplepenquin said...

Are you aware of the spitters, the punchers, the camera-destroyers, the petition vandalizers, the rock-throwers, the stalkers who call Recall Supporters at home, and the people who were passing around petitions they had no intentions of actually turning in?


No, in fact, why don't provide us a link to all these nasty incidents.

Jay said...

purplepenquin said...


Doesn't every election "nullify" the previous election?


No. Unless you don't understand the term "nullification"

Jay said...

purplepenquin said...


Your link requires people to register for the site in order to view the article. That said, I'm aware of the boo-birds/yellers...and have also scolded 'em for doing so.


Except the pro-recall people have done more than "yell" and "boo bird"

But it is rather cute you're trying to pretend otherwise.

BESr said...

As for the Walker write-in, it's my understanding that any attempts to do this would be unsuccessful under Wisconsin's election laws, because a candidate may not appear on the ballot for as a candidate for both parties for the same office.

Even if a campaign to write-in Walker as the Democratic nominee was successful, the law says that if a candidate is already the nominee of one party for an office, and is also nominated by write-in votes at the primary election to the same office as the candidate of a different party, the candidate does not have a choice, but shall be placed on the ballot for the election under the office and party for which the individual was already a candidate.

Mike said...

...oh yeah, and WI is a swing state that will be swinging one way or the other after the recall. I'm sure the interests of Garage and Penguin seem important in context of the recall, but to Obama's reelection team all they see is a swing state in chaos.

Ya'll might actually help Mittens get in the White House! Ha!

Terry said...

Purplepenguin wrote:

Are you aware of the spitters, the punchers, the camera-destroyers, the petition vandalizers, the rock-throwers, the stalkers who call Recall Supporters at home, and the people who were passing around petitions they had no intentions of actually turning in?


Good gravy!
All that by just two Koch brothers?

Revenant said...

It would be funny, but I don't see it happening.

Steve Koch said...

Scott,

Writing in Walkers name is perfectly legal. As far as who is better, the GOP or dems, who knows? There are a lot of dumb asses and crooks on both sides. The GOP is closer to my political philosophy so I side with with the GOP.

In general the GOP needs to toughen up (the GOP has a surplus of country club pussies) and fight fire with fire.

Love most of your takes but on this one let's agree to disagree.

damikesc said...

So how many Democrats applauding these recalls referred to the Clinton impeachment as a "coup"?

machine said...

Finally, evidence of voter fraud!

Marty said...

Love the Dem quote. Good thing they don't live in an echo chamber! Oh, wait . . .

purplepenquin said...

I don't think you understand what nullify means.

I'm using it the same way the folks who are saying that this recall election will nullify the previous election are using it.

If there is no rule AGAINST writing in Walker's name, and the voters that choose to write him in are legal voters in WI, then what is the harm?

Just 'cause there ain't a rule against it doesn't mean it ain't proper.

It ain't no different than having a supporter launch the recall effort early so Walker could start fundraising...nor than having a Republican run as a Democrat in a primary. They are all intended to subvert the spirit of the law, if not the actual law itself.

I ain't sure if write-ins are allowed in a Wisconsin primary. (I know that was an issue when some of the Republicans were trying to get on the VA primary ballot). Sure wish Masel was still around...he'd know the answer right off the top of his head.

Either way, this is yet another reason why the state needs to stop having primary elections, and instead make each party pay for their own nominating process.

No, in fact, why don't provide us a link to all these nasty incidents.

I've listed several in the past, but Dane101 has done a decent round-up of incidents that have occurred with both Walker and Recall supporters:

http://dane101.com/current/2011/12/20/total_recall_wisconsin_recall_rascality_rundown_week_five

Except the pro-recall people have done more than "yell" and "boo bird"

Oh, yes, almost forgot one...it is wrong to tear up Pro-Walker signs. For that matter, it is wrong to tear up any sign that doesn't belong to you.

Any other specific complaints you wish for me to address?

Scott M said...

Just 'cause there ain't a rule against it doesn't mean it ain't proper.

Here you're referring to the Democrat senators fleeing the state in order to buy their union buddies time, correct?

purplepenquin said...

? for Mike:

Have you ever seen me utter a word of support for Obama or are you simply making crap up as you go?

garage mahal said...

Aaaand Walker hires two Chicago criminal defense lawyers to speak with the Don Ho prosecutors. Oh to be a fly on that wall.

machine said...

Forget it penguin...logic and reason do not apply in here...

purplepenquin said...

Here you're referring to the Democrat senators fleeing the state in order to buy their union buddies time, correct?

While I personally don't beleive that parliamentary procedures like quorum breaks and filibustering are improper (tho, I would rather see filibusterers having to actually speak for their time), I can understand why some folks would view those procedures as abusive.

Is there even a purpose for having a quorum? Do you beleive we should do away with the rules/laws in regards to the State House having a certain quorum in order to conduct business?


PS - short link for the broken one I posted earlier: http://tinyurl.com/6te9rsr

Roger J. said...

Professor: I much appreciate your coverage of Wisconsin state politics--I have never been much a student of state politics, and your coverage has certainly been helpful. Thanks

(I can talk about Memphis/Shelby county politics, but it isnt nearly as exciting as what you folks in Wisconsin do)

Scott M said...

(I can talk about Memphis/Shelby county politics, but it isnt nearly as exciting as what you folks in Wisconsin do)

All you need are randomly scatter .22 caliber shells and you too can participate on their level.

Scott M said...

"scattered"

(when good snark goes bad...)

Don't Tread 2012 said...

broken machine said

"Forget it penguin...logic and reason do not apply in here..."

Hilarious!

garage and you; dumb and dumber.

machine said...

and there it is...

Roger J. said...

ScottM--the main qualifications for serving on the Memphis city council are either be indicted or have served hard time--Although I do have to say our current Mayor, AC Wharton is doing a great job--regretably he has to deal with an excrable city council.

Curious George said...

"Ann Althouse said...
"Wow 884 people on facebook. Of course we know that it's enough to make the Penquin wet it's pants...but this a just a joke."

Speaking of jokes... remember that time people voted for Jesse Ventura for Governor of Minnesota? Ha ha. That was hilarious."

This is apples and oranges. Ventura was not written in to be a candidate against himself. In fact, he was not a write in candidate at all. He was on the ballot as a third party candidate in a three way race.

Curious George said...

"purplepenquin said...
Here you're referring to the Democrat senators fleeing the state in order to buy their union buddies time, correct?

While I personally don't beleive that parliamentary procedures like quorum breaks and filibustering are improper (tho, I would rather see filibusterers having to actually speak for their time), I can understand why some folks would view those procedures as abusive.

Is there even a purpose for having a quorum? Do you beleive we should do away with the rules/laws in regards to the State House having a certain quorum in order to conduct business?

More Penguin bullshit. The fleebaggers were not filibustering. A filibuster is an agreed upon process by a political body. What the fleebaggers did was not an agreed upon process. And a quorum is meant to insure that a sufficient percentage of those involved in a process must be involved...it's a protection. Again, the fleebagger were not precluded from the vote in question.

EDH said...

Didn't Bill Wyman of the Rolling Stones do a version of that song...
in real life?

purplepenquin said...

More Penguin bullshit. The fleebaggers were not filibustering.

I didn't say that the Dems in WI were filibustering...are you intentionally building a strawman or did you simply not read what was actually written and instead hurriedly responded after only briefly skimming what I wrote?

Or was there another reason why you're making up crap about me? Please clarify.

What the fleebaggers did was not an agreed upon process.

I ain't sure what you mean by this...are you claiming that there aren't actual rules/procedures in regards to quorums for the Wisconsin Legislature?

Petunia said...

Each time Graeme Zielinski gives a statement, he makes himself and his party look dumber and dumber.

Keep up the good work, Graeme!

purplepenquin said...

No indictment?

Actually, it now does look as if Walker might not be charged with anything.

After all, they don't bring you and your team of lawyers into the DA's office for a chat if they are gonna actually indict ya...right?

Story: http://tinyurl.com/7dapuym

machine said...

...and using public resources for Republican political campaigns...is that legal?

Petunia said...

And garage, anyone potentially involved with the defense side of a criminal case, who agrees to speak with prosecutors, especially politically-motivated prosecutors like Chisholm, without their own attorney(s) present, is an idiot, and Scott Walker is not an idiot.

shiloh said...

"Or... let's be fair... the person who would make the best Governor in the event that Walker is defeated."

hmm, Althouse hedging her bets after being soooo confident up 'til now Walker had no worries ...

Stranger things have happened like Auuunold the terminator becoming gov.

As always, stay tuned. Things can change very quickly in politics. Just ask mittens who won FL and has been backtracking ever since after putting his foot in his mouth for the umpteenth time.

robinintn said...

Roger J: Memphis/Shelby county politics not interesting? Over here in middle Tennessee, we can't get enough of the Ford crime family's antics.

Jay said...

purplepenquin said...
Oh, yes, almost forgot one...it is wrong to tear up Pro-Walker signs. For that matter, it is wrong to tear up any sign that doesn't belong to you.


Oh, actually you forgot battery to a police officer.

But of course you're just a silly little hack.

Any other specific complaints you wish for me to address?

Why would I care? You're a partisan hack playing the "I criticize both sides" routine.

Which is laughable.

Jay said...

garage mahal said...
Aaaand Walker hires two Chicago criminal defense lawyers to speak with the Don Ho prosecutors.


It is hysterical to watch you carry on in the "If you hire lawyers you are guilty" mode.

Of course you never apply that standard to Democrats.

Moron.

Alex said...

I don't see how Walker wriggles out of it. He knew his office was being used for fundraising - he facilitated it. Watch all his former aids squeal. Damn it. Why is every "new hope" from the GOP end up a criminal?

What dirt is there on Jindal, Rubio, Haley, Ryan?

garage mahal said...

Petunia
It's not a voluntary decision to speak with the DA's prosecutors as far as I know. It's either you agree to talk, or you agree to show up and talk with an escort in handcuffs. The lawyers he hired aren't people you hire for a broken headlight.

What a news day: Quadruple homicide in De Pere, tanker explodes in Whitewater, several buildings on fire, Guv to be speaking with prosecutors, and Assemblyman admits packing heat on the floor.

Jay said...

garage mahal said...
Petunia
It's not a voluntary decision to speak with the DA's prosecutors as far as I know


Yes!!!

There is no such thing as a 5th Amendment right as far as you know!

Idiot.

Alex said...

garage - do you do anything but read the news and post continuously in blogs? I mean get a LIFE man, go outside. The sun is shining, the birds are singing!

garage mahal said...

One of the attorneys Walker hired defended a 17 yr old who killed his grandfather with an ax. The other specializes in real estate.

Lem said...

15% of Wanggaard Recall Circulator’s Signatures Are Duplicates.

I wonder how garage explains this away..

purplepenquin said...

Oh, actually you forgot battery to a police officer.

Didn't see that. Yup, that's wrong. When a cop gives a lawful order, you best be following it. And don't beat up on cops either, that's just plain wrong.

You're a partisan hack playing the "I criticize both sides" routine.

Which is laughable.


WTH? It sure sounds like you're projecting yourself on others. 'cause I truly have had plenty o' bad to say about both Democrats and Republicans.

What is really interesting is that you can't even acknowledge, let alone criticize, anything improper that has been done by Walker Supporters...yet you're all over my ass 'cause I haven't said something about each&every incident that a Recall Supporter has done. Your silence on that, while screaming at me, speaks volumes.


What is truly laughable is that I thought you were sincere in wanting to have a good faith convo. I provided links when you requested them and I addressed the questions you asked of me. I've treated you...and others...with politeness and respect, but you respond by making up crap about me.

You truly seem more interested in trolling than talking, and that is pretty sad...

I ♥ Willard said...

Yes!!!

There is no such thing as a 5th Amendment right as far as you know!

Idiot.


Why does Jay feel compelled to type his nickname at the end of his comments? Doesn't he realize that we can simply look at the profile name at the beginning of his post if we happen to forget who's responsible for the mind-numbing tedium of his tirades?

purplepenquin said...

There is no such thing as a 5th Amendment right as far as you know!

If one is ordered to appear does the 5th Amendment mean they don't have to actually appear if they don't want to, or are they required to show up and then invoke the 5th whenever they are asked a question?

I'm not sure how those things work, nor am I sure how to word that for a Google-search...

Lem said...

Did the democrats just open the door to allow for more time for signatures to be checked?

The legal maneuvering by the petitioners causes delay.. delay that could be used to check/trash (at least in the court of public opinion) them precious signatures.

Maybe theres something I dont understand.. and I'm probably better off.

Petunia said...

Garage, the article in your link clearly quotes the governor as saying he is meeting with the DA VOLUNTARILY and at his OWN behest.

Of course, we all know that the governor lies about everything...(sarcasm).

What do you want Walker to do? He has been subjected to attacks ever since he took office, and is the subject of a two-year-long politically-motivated investigation run by the Democrat DA of the county with one of the highest violent crime rates in the state, which for some reason doesn't seem to be a priority with his office. Why shouldn't Walker hire good lawyers when he goes into the lion's den?

Jay said...

garage mahal said...

It's not a voluntary decision to speak with the DA's prosecutors as far as I know. It's either you agree to talk, or you agree to show up and talk with an escort in handcuffs.


Idiot: From your own link
Walker said in his new statement Friday that he wanted to cooperate with prosecutors.

Do you ever get tired of demonstrating how stupid you are?

Ever?

Jay said...

purplepenquin said...


If one is ordered to appear does the 5th Amendment mean they don't have to actually appear if they don't want to,


You are not "ordered to appear" anywhere but court.

You can be arrested with an arrest warrant or you can decline to talk to the police & DA.

We don't live in a dictatorship, yet.

Jay said...

purplepenquin said...
Didn't see that. Yup, that's wrong


Isn't that convenient?

I stand by the rest of my comments.

garage mahal said...

Lem
That "as many as 15%" equals 11 signatures. If they are dupes, they will get tossed.

Garage, the article in your link clearly quotes the governor as saying he is meeting with the DA VOLUNTARILY and at his OWN behest.

Yea I know that's what Walker's campaign has said. That doesn't mean it's true. He has declined recently to say whether he has been previously contacted by prosecutors. But in January he flatly said he wasn't.

And why is his campaign that is doing all the talking and not from the Governors Office?

purplepenquin said...

Isn't that convenient?

WTH?

Like I said before, you can't even acknowledge that anything improper has been done by Walker Supporters yet you're all over my butt because I didn't say something right away about each&every incident that you personally had in mind.

I'm thinking of a word that describes you...starts with an "H", ends with "e" and there is "ypocrit" in the middle.

Ann Althouse said...

My point about Ventura is that something that seems like merely a joke can win a plurality.

purplepenquin said...

I understand that a lot of Ann's Fans come from places outside of Wisconsin, and maybe things are done differently elsewhere...so could someone please help me with this:

you're just a silly little hack.

You're a partisan hack

Idiot

Do you ever get tired of demonstrating how stupid you are?

Do people who have a desire for a convo in good faith pepper their posts with personal attacks and comments like this?

Also...if someone asks for a source in regards to a claim that was made, but then ignores the link that is provided does that indicate that they aren't really interested in having an honest convo?

I know we kinda have a different way of doing things here in the MidWest...are those type of things considered reasonable behavior elsewhere?

Alex said...

purple - so you have no problem with garage's incessant personal attacks.

purplepenquin said...

so you have no problem with garage's incessant personal attacks

I haven't noticed him personally attacking me. What has he been saying?

Petunia said...

I have no idea why Walker's campaign was quoted instead of the governor's office. Do you? No doubt some nefarious reason having to do with the Koch brothers.

As for believing Walker or not, that's your right. I don't believe the MKE county DA when he says the motivation behind the John Doe is not political.

Walker said he contacted the DA's office. That's different from being contacted by prosecutors.

Muns said...

Oh what a tangled web we weave, When first we practise to deceive!

As my whimsy leads me.. said...

Are write-ins counted as valid in Wisconsin?

Toy

Petunia said...

Toy, yes, write-ins are counted.

Not sure what happens, though, if someone writes in "Scott Walker" in a Dem primary. I've heard that that invalidates the ballot, but I'm not sure that's correct.

Of course, if it were to be valid, and Walker were to win the Dem primary (highly unlikely, of course), then that would be it for an election.

DADvocate said...

Yes! Brilliant. What if the Democratic Walker wins?

“Republicans seem frightened by democracy..."

What a dumb ass. If Democrats like democracy so much, they'd live with the results of the first election.

Milwaukee said...

Alex said...

Photo ID = racism. Gotta love librul logic.


The TSA is sooooo racist. Can't get on a plane without a photo id. And in Illinois, minorities and poor people and other people can't buy drain cleaner without a photo id.

Milwaukee said...

Edutcher. Right you are.

Milwaukee said...

The True the Vote people have about 12000 volunteers. For 1 million names, that's about 85 names apiece. Should each name be entered twice, that's 170 names per volunteer. Any takers on betting this could be done before kick off?

Jim Treacher said...

Whereas Democrats aren't frightened by democracy and the will of the people, which is why they're trying to reverse the results of democracy and the will of the people.

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Patrick said...

Well, Ventura was both a joke (a bad one) and a plurality (a small one). He's much more of a joke now than he was then, so we at least didn't get him at his worst.

The Grey Man said...

Ann, while I can not recall any race with two identically named candidates, there was a famous case of two brothers opposing each other. Alf and Bob Taylor faced each other in the 1886 Tennessee governor's race, better known as "The War of the Roses".

Ultimately, both would serve as Governor. According to family legend, the race was held in good humor. Both brothers were pranksters, and would occasionally show up claiming to be the other and give a bad speech.

While they were on opposing sides, they could disagree without being disagreeable, a lost art these days.

A brief synopsis here:

http://tennesseeencyclopedia.net/entry.php?rec=1463

bflat879 said...

I would love to see that catch fire because it would send the little baby Democrats the message they missed in the 2010 election. I can't believe the way they've been behaving, since they lost the elections in 2010, just like little children.

Steve Austin said...

I'm reading Haz's comment above about voting for Falk in an operation chaos to get the weaker candidate.

While I agree I'd like to see Walker run against Falk (she's the Gubenatorial version of Kloppenburg) I'm not sure too many GOP'ers should show up to vote for her.

If Falk were to get some huge vote total in the primary by virtue of 300,000 to 500,000 GOP votes, I'd guess the media would run with the narrative that Walker will be toast in the general election and it might dampen the enthusiasm of middle of the road non political types who are going to try and vote for the "likely winner" and thus might either stay home or actually not vote for Walker.

Kirk Parker said...

Garage,

"Assemblyman admits packing heat on the floor. "

Hey, do you blame him if he wants to emulate that other W-state (the one with the REAL UW)? You guys have a lot of catching up to do in that regard.

Seriously, in Washington State it's legal to carry in the legislative offices and in the capitol building itself, and people can and do so all the time. The State Patrol is perfectly cool with this--in fact there was a hilarious incident last year where a large group of WA open-carry folks showed up to some firearm-related hearing, and the State Patrol officers had to straighten out the (east coast transplant) of WA Ceasefire as to its legality.

This has been legal here since, basically, forever, and no legislator has ever been shot by a legally-carrying citizen, or vice versa. But maybe (here comes the snark) we have a better class of individual here in WA than you do in WI.

Kirk Parker said...

Oops, that's "the (east coast transplant) head of Ceasefire WA..."

Rusty said...

Lem.

That's running spot on for 20% of all signatures.

At what percentage is everything tossed and they have to start over?

Curious George said...

"purplepenquin said...
More Penguin bullshit. The fleebaggers were not filibustering.

I didn't say that the Dems in WI were filibustering..."

More bullshit. This is the common level of honesty you present here:

"purplepenquin said...
Just 'cause there ain't a rule against it doesn't mean it ain't proper."

"Scott M said...
Just 'cause there ain't a rule against it doesn't mean it ain't proper.

Here you're referring to the Democrat senators fleeing the state in order to buy their union buddies time, correct?"

"purplepenquin said...
Here you're referring to the Democrat senators fleeing the state in order to buy their union buddies time, correct?

While I personally don't beleive that parliamentary procedures like quorum breaks and filibustering are improper (tho, I would rather see filibusterers having to actually speak for their time), I can understand why some folks would view those procedures as abusive."

You clearly did say the Dems were filibustering. You are liar. And a hypocrite.

SGT Ted said...

Hey, it's voting. By ALL the voters.

Isn't that what Democracy looks like? Or is that only when Democrats vote?

SGT Ted said...

given what Scott Walker has done to ruin Wisconsin

Yes, because All the Cool Kids Just Know that less taxpayer dollars to the union stooges of one political party ruins an entire state.

They really think highly of themselves over there in Union Town.

SGT Ted said...

Funny how the libs here are always trying to criminalize the political decisions of their opponents.

Oh yea, thats what they ALWAYS do; The politics of personal destruction, Alinsky style.

The substance and actual EVIDENCE doesn't matter; it's all about the SERIOUSNESS of the charge!

Craig said...

I'm my own great great grandfather. I nominated my dad for the honor, but he declined it on the grounds that he was always a self made man.

purplepenquin said...

You clearly did say the Dems were filibustering. You are liar. And a hypocrite.

I absolutely did not. What you quoted doesn't even back up what you are claiming I said, so I don't know who you think you're fooling.


You really need to stop this childish name calling you are constantly indulging in, you need to quit making crap up about other people, and you should put an end to this obsession you have about moi.