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Problem with this format (and I have the same issue with Insty links to PJ Media) is that I surf the net to read, not to watch. I prefer it. And if I'm going to listen to talking heads, I'll turn on the television instead.
And if I'm going to listen to talking heads, I'll turn on the television instead.But Fen, Althouse and blooggingheads want to become like your TV!wv = "retinu" = "netting" you
Almost forgot:"the President of the United States was not informed of the engagement order – it did not originate from him, and for several hours after the order had been given and the special ops forces were preparing for action into Pakistan from their position in Afghanistan, Daley successfully kept Obama and Jarrett insulated from that order.""The operation was at this time effectively unknown to President Barack Obama or Valerie Jarrett and it remained that way until AFTER it had already been initiated. President Obama was literally pulled from a golf outing and escorted back to the White House to be informed of the mission"...oh, someone catch Garage, please.http://socyberty.com/issues/white-house-insider-obama-hesitated-panetta-issued-order-to-kill-osama-bin-laden/#ixzz1M4YK8ylc
government worksI'll agree as soon as the local DMV workers are as competent as Navy Seals.
Almost forgot:I've read that entire thing a couple times too, Fen. While interesting and possibly devastating if true, has it corroborated by any other sources?
...oh, someone catch Garage, please.Garage won't be here at school today. He's out protesting the latest Walker travesty: linkwv = "sterse" adj. stern but annoyingly brief: I received a "sterse" warning.
Worthless clip reducing both men in my estimation and conveying little or no information. If anyone followed the link to listen to the second half please let us know if there was anything of value there. Blogger ate my first response so let this be it from me.
OK, what's to say he isn't dead and that he's doing his Lloyd Bridges impression at Gitmo, even as we speak?If they took him alive, why not keep quiet about it so the bad guys don't know he's spilling his guts?(OK, the'd have to keep Little Zero out of the loop...)Fen, you're on.
While interesting and possibly devastating if true, has it corroborated by any other sources?Not to my knowledge. Some of the snips in the UK Telegraph dovetail with it, but not enough to confirm it, in my estimation. Not really sure how it can be, unless maybe one of Hillary's people starts leaking.I guess we'll have to read someone's book 10 years from now.
I guess we'll have to read someone's book 10 years from now.That's almost exactly what I thought the first time I read it.
Hell, I'm still digesting what a drug addict JFK was, while he was in office.
It's too bad they did not get bin Laden under such circumstances that they would have had to take him alive and bring him back with them.There would hardly have been any choice but to take bin Laden to Guantanamo for the duration, and Eric Holder to a padded cell at Bellevue.
Some Conservatives and Libertarians say the article Fen quotes is a little too close to the truth to be believed (the part about pulling him off the golf course is especially cute) at face value.Problem is, that's what makes it so believable - and why I notice no one's denied it.
This is the problem of filling content. I know. I know. It has to be done. HBO puts on some crap as well. But, you're facing a new dean. You have to step up in ways the Laker's simply could not.
In its favor, 1) it came out very quickly after the capture. I *believe* the initial leak was within 24 hours (will check). I find it hard to believe a fake could be churned out that quickly and still remain true to the character and movements of the individuals involved. So it reads to me like a play-by-play account.2) the author doesn't pretend knowledge he doesn't have access to. He doesn't speculate on who was in the room, he simply says "I don't know who the 3rd was".I would prefer the source not out himself atm. Besides, the NYTs et al ran far more than this with their anon single sources. So I'm happy to make this the narrative of what really happened the day they took OBL down.
As for the narrative/story on obama NOT making THE decision...I buy it. How else do you explain he decided to hit the links??? And had to be dragged back...
"government works"It has always been very effective at killing people. Other stuff, not so much, which is a good reason to have as little as possible of it.
"government works"This had to be the most expensive assassination in history. I'm glad they got him, and am amazed at the heroism of the men who did, but the time and money it took to get them there does not really describe a very effective operation. I have great hope for the value of it in demoralizing the enemy though, so it may well prove to be worth the cost.
Ned: As for the narrative/story on obama NOT making THE decision...I buy it. How else do you explain he decided to hit the links?It does address the pattern of incompetence we saw from Team Obama before and after the kill. That momentary flash of effective leadership organizing and executing the strike was because someone else was in charge.
I was surprised at this, since I have long thought that if bin Laden was ever found, he would be found living in an upscale neighborhood in Karachi or Islamabad itself.When I saw the pictures of this "lavish" mansion compound, I said it looked more like a prison, but that was not right. On another blog, someone wrote that it looked like the police headquarters on the frontier of just about any third world around the world, and yes, that is exactly what it looks like.The "mansion" is also just six years old, but already the stucco was flaking off in sheets. Does not that just about confirm it as a government project?I suspect bin Laden has been rather irrelevant for some time, and I think his lifestyle here confirms that. I think his own money has long been successfully frozen by other unsung U.S. agencies, and that this hide-out was provided by "elements" within the Pakistan government. Other "elements" may well have resented this, or they just found out and tipped the CIA. Perhaps when the host agency in Abbottabad applied to Islamabad for funds to re-stucco the walls and spruce up the interior.
If I was reduced to having to watch those two I would be praying for the SEALS to come barging in and give me a bin Laden.
David Corn's assertion that the fact of OBL's death will "subsume" the White House's difficulties in the immediate aftermath is less likely to hold up the longer Obama continues his weekend at Osama's routine.
Has this collection of photoshopped situation room photos yet made the rounds here?Here's another set.
The "Situation Room" photoshops are the new Hitler Bunker video parodies.
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