March 21, 2011

Somebody has written "Workers of the World Unite" on the monument to Civil War hero Hans Christian Heg.

And Meade is not happy with that. This evening at the Wisconsin Capitol:



2 protesters — a teacher and a lawyer — arrive on the scene, and a hilarious argument ensues. This might seem long, but don't miss the "teabagger" part.

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Class factotum said...

I'd like to ask someone how they'd react to putting a slogan like "work shall set you free" on something.

Or, "He who does not work neither shall eat."

rhhardin said...

Al Franken is famous for pronouncing "roman a clef" with the f.

Belkys said...

Venona
Haunted in the wood
The sword and the shield
Witness
And the annals of communism by Yale press

6k russian went into the USA with the excuse of the war. Most were spies and hitmen.

lemondog said...

Workers of the World Unite

How orginial.

Try:

Taxpayers of the World Unite!

BTW is Meade union?

Meade said...

vbspurs said...
"Also: freebie shot of Meade's butt."

Uh, Victoria... my eyes are up here.

Pogo said...

The fact that students do not learn about the ravages of Communism shows the teachers union to be incompetent.

Canuck said...

"harhar they wuz also germans not norwegians like heg an free thinkers too...not really yer cup o tea"

Dear Sarge,

German-speakers, not really German yet. The revolutions of 1848 had influence across Europe. Lot less in Scandanavia, but...

"These tensions, conflicting dynamics inherent in the scope of aspirations in 1848, and the radicalizing influence of the Revolutions in central and western Europe are evident in the essays treating Scandinavia....Prior to news of the Revolutions, the Norwegian parliament faced opposition by urban liberals desiring further constitutional reforms and democratic farmers seeking strong local self-government." _Europe in 1848, Revolution and Reform._ (2001.)

Franklin said...

Pretty sure Meade just metaphorically teabagged all the Leftists in that video. They got pwnd.

galdosiana said...

My favorite part of this entire video:

When Meade asks the teacher if he teaches English, the guy responds with a "yes", and Meade just groans. Priceless.

deborah said...

Although, it was incredibly lucky for such a smartass lawyer and dumbass teacher to come by right then. Loved the lawyer.

(You don't pronounce the 'f'?)

lemondog said...

SEIU tractor-trailer in the background. Were they recording events?

Let them eat cakesign.

Referring to taxpayers?

And which workers are being oppressed?

Ren said...

Meade,
Have you educated yourself on what it means to teabag someone? It's not a homosexual act, only a sexual one. The video is hilarious--look at the old man making up definitions and calling them homophobic!

Also, on argot--look in Webster's...both pronunciations are correct. Yes, I was surprised as well.

TMink said...

When you are used to other people taking care of you through their hard work it is easy to let other hard working people clean up your mess.

You expect it.

They certainly do.

The differences in what the protest sites look like after a gathering is a deep and profound insight into the psyche of the people involved. Choose wisely.

Trey

Fen said...

Libtard: the sexual act of teabagging is not a homosexual act, nor have I ever seen it referred to as one.

More bullshit to justify your use of a homophobic slur. Whatever its origins, teabagging is commonly associated with gays today. You know this, and you use it as such.

You're just another Douche.

Lincolntf said...

Teabaggers vs. Fisters, Round 2.

Ann Althouse said...

"If you look in Webster's, the first pronunciation for the word "argot" is how it was pronounced in the video. AA's pronunciation is listed second."

No. Look closely. There are 2 pronunciations, and the American Heritage 3d International Dictionary... the book... lists the one I used first. "Webster's" is a generic term that any dictionary can use, by the way. In any case, whichever of the 2 pronunciations is first, mine is at least one of the pronunciations. The lawyer's pronunciation — with a strong "GOT" sound — isn't one of them.

Also, he used the word in speech. I just commented on how he said it, which I thought was wrong, and it was. Most people avoid saying words they don't know how to pronounce, but have only read. If you go ahead and use it, especially if you seem to be trying to look extra-smart, then mispronunciation is funny.

Ren said...

Fen,
I don't use the word teabag in my speech. But, again, I have never heard it used in a homosexual context. In fact, the first time I ever saw the word was when it referred to "teabagging a hooker" (in hilarious context).

Obviously, you're an angry person with serious issues. If you want to be an accusatory jackass, go ahead. But still, it doesn't change anything. Even if you look on Urban Dictionary, as Meade suggests, none of them mention it being a homosexual act.

I'm sorry if your view are so clouded that you're incapable of looking at anything objectively.

lemondog said...

Urban Dictionary with 36 definitions of teabagger ranging the full spectrum of ideologies.

Ren said...

AA,
You're totally right...I probably should've clicked the pronunciation button. I've always pronounced the long 'o', but at first glance guess I saw the hard 't' and just assumed his was fine, too.

bagoh20 said...

OK show of hands, how many here have done any actual teabagging?

That's what I thought.

Pogo said...

You can be certain that the lawyer has used the term argot pronounced incorrectly for many many years.

He read it first in sociology class in college. Since no one he knows has ever said the word aloud, he never knew how to pronounce it.

And apparently never looked at the little guide to pronunciation in the dictionary.

But he is certain it means 'I am superior to you, for I know many fine and rare words..

bagoh20 said...

I have never used the word, but would assume on sight that it's the long O pronunciation, and that's certainly the French one, but Wiktionary shows both, and Websters has both on audio and even lists that it "rhymes with target".

Everybody gets and A.

bagoh20 said...

I happen to agree that "work shall set you free". Do I have to abandon the truth of my experience just because some Nazi 60 years ago agreed with it. He probably thought puppies were cute too, is that wrong now.

"Workers of the world unite" is just a wrong headed idea in a free and free market society. Either way, we can't let the assholes of history copyright the language.

Meade said...

Ren said...
Meade,
Have you educated yourself on what it means to teabag someone? It's not a homosexual act, only a sexual one. The video is hilarious--look at the old man making up definitions and calling them homophobic!


"It's not a homosexual act, only a sexual one."

Right, just as to "suck" someone's "cock" is not exclusively a "homosexual" act.

The fact is, when (especially) a male calls someone a "teabagger" or a "cocksucker," he is using the term as a slur, it is meant to shame and intimidate, and it carries a message, however subtle, of hostility toward gay men.

I regret using the word "homophobic" with the lawyer and the teacher. I should have just called them "gay-haters."

A "Shotgun" Gold said...

I don't know if the failure to recognize "Workers of the World Unite" as a Marxist slogan should make me sad about the state of education-- or happy as a sign that the idiocy of Marxism may be beginning to fade into obscurity.

wordsmith2 said...

Ann is right about the various accepted pronunciations for "argot" not including the one the lawyer was using. But to say that "Webster's" is generic is not correct. In law, use of the American Heritage Dictionary may be the standard, but in academic publishing more generally, Merriam-Webster's 11th Collegiate Dictionary or Merriam-Webster's Unabridged (online) are the standards, along with the Chicago Manual of Style.

rsb said...

I thought the video was very interesting.

Fen said...

Teabaggers vs. Fisters, Round 2

Actually, if we're Teabaggers then they are Filchers.

If you don't know what that means, you don't want to.

Carol_Herman said...

"Teabagging" is like this FIST symbol. And, you bet. I qualify it as homosexual activities.

When heterosexuals are involved, the guy thinks he's getting a blow job. A term way more familiar to most folks.

That lawyer is the one who claims he can see the Capitol from his office window. Now, we see him.

His gum chewing really put me off. I guess he never heard a teacher tell him it made him look like he was chewing cud.

Fen said...

Ren: Obviously, you're an angry person with serious issues. If you want to be an accusatory jackass, go ahead. But still, it doesn't change anything.

oh go fuck off, Ren.

You are knowingly and deliberately sliming people with a homophobic slur. Your feeble justifications only reveal what a pathetic life you lead.

I promise you one thing - you say it to my face in person and I will put you in a hospital bed for the rest of your life.

Please, come to Maryland and see what it gets you. I love object lessons.

Pastafarian said...

Meade, I think I'd try a soft terry cloth instead of the scrub brush, or in addition to it, after the brush. It probably would have lifted more of the chalk particles off the surface.

But I think they'll need to use a pressure-washer with plain water to get it all off.

Crimso said...

"Is it bad per se or just because the commies said it?"

Good question. We need a final solution to this question. That's what we need.

Don Meaker said...

Keep in mind that the leftist support of restriction and regulation of the corporation is a front, for use of the government to prevent fair competition. Regulations are written to give some corporations advantage over others- starting all the way back with the regulation of butchers, which required the butcher to pay for a a certified government inspector to supervise his work. That drove the local butcher out of business, and gave great advantage to factory slaughterhouses (which previously were not trusted).
The problem is not that regulatory agencies are captured by those regulated. The problem is the purpose of the regulations at the start is to provide advantages to some, and disadvantages to others, under the guise of "public good".

Don Meaker said...

The idea that a local butcher could possibly benefit by poisoning his customers is ludicrous. Rather like the idea that someone who is not deterred from running red lights by the increased likelihood of sudden screaming death but would be deterred by the possibility of a 200 dollar ticket. The potential for unearned and undeserved income is the sole reason for the regulation.

rhhardin said...

Argot is the language of snails.

Sofa King said...

If someone is using the phrase "Workers of the World Unite", then so what? It is a catchy phrase. I'm sure that they aren't advocating any communist takeover of America.


I'm not.

Ann Althouse said...

"Ann is right about the various accepted pronunciations for "argot" not including the one the lawyer was using. But to say that "Webster's" is generic is not correct. In law, use of the American Heritage Dictionary may be the standard, but in academic publishing more generally, Merriam-Webster's 11th Collegiate Dictionary or Merriam-Webster's Unabridged (online) are the standards, along with the Chicago Manual of Style."

The reason the name Merriam-Webster's is used is because Webster's became generic. You'll note that I didn't say Merriam-Webster's. I said Webster's.

It's like Bayer Aspirin. Aspirin was originally the brand, but it became generic, and that's why the Bayer was added.

Seven Machos said...

Band Aid
Kleenex
Coke (if you grew up where I did)
Thermos

reader_iam said...

Good grief.

Photo of Karl Marx's headstone

Better teachers needed, indeed.

reader_iam said...

Sorry if someone already linked that. Didn't read this post yesterday, haven't read thread at all yet.

ChamberlainAnon said...

I regret using the word "homophobic" with the lawyer and the teacher. I should have just called them "gay-haters."

But then you'd be wrong, b/c they're not 'gay-haters'. They didn't know what you were talking about.

reader_iam said...

Of course, students have to want to *learn*, which, quite obviously, even adult ones aren't always, um, inclined to want to do.

Disgraceful.

How is "Workers of the world unite" associated with Major Historical Movements in [relatively] Recent History?

Well, gee. I dunno.

*Sigh*

reader_iam said...

And him, a lawyer! Him, a teacher!

LOL.

MamaM said...

This post is classic Althouse. A presentation of picture and word, inviting consideration, insight, laughter and clarification.

In addition, I received a vocab update, adding argot along with a deeper understanding of filching. Also a view of the Marx headstone for the first time. (thanks Reader).

Jim S. said...

I'm starting to think Althouse married up.

Meade said...

No way in the world, Jim S.

But thanks.

rasqual said...

I understand the reductio you were running, Ann, but honestly -- the term "homophobic" is such a nuclear option (anyone who "is homophobic" is a pariah), and ignorant use of "teabagger" is so obviously not a shibboleth of homophobia...

On the other hand, "homophobia" is not a meaningful description (phobia?) but a political pejorative. Its casual use is little different than use of the term "teabagger." It's meant to attach disdain to a person, not to justice to their view of a thing.

I'd like to see "teabagger" and "homophobia" both retired -- mainly because our discourse suffers from their constant abuse.

JimMuy said...

I don't care if someone doesn't know what it means. When they use the term "teabagger" they are deliberately trying to insult. And they know it is meant as an insult or a slur.

Remember "maccaca?" How did the "I didn't know it was a insult/slur" defense work for Allen? And who, exactly, refused to let that slide?

Smilin' Jack said...

Earlier in the vid one of the protesters calls the graffitier a "moron," but Meade doesn't object to this direct slur on the mentally handicapped. Why so sensitive to an indirect slur on gays, then, hmmmm?

Anyway, the tea-whatever began with a bunch of people mailing teabags to Congress, so I think it's reasonable to call them teabaggers, whether they like it or not.

Conservatives 4 Better Dental Hygiene said...

I love the idolatry, Fellow Babylonians.

Conservatives 4 Better Dental Hygiene said...

Everyone knows that democracy is about nothing more than shiny statues and sparkling monuments.

Conservatives 4 Better Dental Hygiene said...

Media Guy Meade says that gay men are are perpetuating homophobia.

What an interesting, if bizarre assertion.

Conservatives 4 Better Dental Hygiene said...

Since Meadesey finds Urban Dictionary to be so authoritative, I must say that this is my favorite definition that they give for "teabagger":

A conservative republican who protests against income taxes by rubbing their nutsacks in each other's faces.

What's homophobic about someone rubbing his nutsack in another's face? Are acts that describe heterosexual cunnilingus or fellatio now derogatory of straight people?

You guys get really weird when you try this whole "reason" thing out.

Conservatives 4 Better Dental Hygiene said...

Um, sorry to intrude on Professor Meade's English lesson, but nowhere in the first seven definitions supplied by Urban Dictionary was "teabagger" described as applying primarily, let alone exclusively to homosexuals.

And, actually, try this:

2) a man that squats on top of a womens face and lowers his genitals into her mouth during sex, known as "teabagging"

Do you just make stuff up, Meade? Am I going to have to coin a term along the lines of "teabagger", eg. "asspuller"?

This will be a gender and sexual orientation-neutral term for someone who just pulls random facts out of his/her ass. I hereby decree it.

Which person in the video is the first known asspuller?

Making up words is almost as fun as inventing definitions! ;-)

vbspurs said...

JimMuy wrote:

I don't care if someone doesn't know what it means. When they use the term "teabagger" they are deliberately trying to insult. And they know it is meant as an insult or a slur.

Remember "maccaca?" How did the "I didn't know it was a insult/slur" defense work for Allen? And who, exactly, refused to let that slide?


I'm sorry I missed the latter fireworks on this thread, but just to echo that Jim is absolutely spot on with maccaca, a term I had never heard of as being insulting before Allen's usage.

What is understood is that Allen wanted to insult the Indian guy photographing his rally, and went with something which sounded like a monkey, a "macacque", i.e., maccaca.

In the rush to find out why he used this term, it was revealed that his mother was of Sephardic Jewish descent, and that maccaca is not an unheard of insult in Sefarad. He claimed he wasn't aware of his mother's ancestry, though, but perhaps she used it without explanation.

Teabag (-ger) is an insult. You do not use it meaning something positive, especially since it is tied to an act popular in the homosexual community.

Use it, and you will be corrected.

Cheers,
Victoria

Seven Machos said...

Isn't it sad, Ritmo, that nobody cares what you think? Why should people care about what Althouse and Meade think and leave poor you in utter, uninteresting obscurity?

So sad. Death will be a sweet release.

Methadras said...

reader_iam said...

Good grief.

Photo of Karl Marx's headstone

Better teachers needed, indeed.


One of the worst people to ever grace the face of the earth. May he rot in the lowest depths of all hell for eternity.

Methadras said...

Conservatives 4 Better Dental Hygiene said...

I love the idolatry, Fellow Babylonians.


Oh look, human cock ring #2 shows up as well.

Conservatives 4 Better Dental Hygiene said...

Oh hi. It's Cokehead 7 Femmes!

People care what I think, just not inside the bubble that constitutes Pretend Media Guy Meade and Pretend Law Professor Althouse's world.

And outside their bubble of commenter groupies here, very few people care what either one of them think.

I guess a cocaine addict like Femmie Machos would know a lot about tempting death. And given what a whore he is, with no real values whatsoever, I'm not surprised that he has so little appreciation for life.

I bet you were a real hoot in your coked-up Robert Downey Jr. days, Femmie Nachos.

The lucha mask in your avatar says a lot about your lack of integrity. I bet very few people know what an empty shell of a person you are in real life.

Seven Machos said...

Sad.

Conservatives 4 Better Dental Hygiene said...

What can I say? If only you could turn your tears into a fine, white powder and snort them...

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