Ann, perhaps you can find out if the person that has been identified as sending the death threats to Gov. Walker, and at least two Republicans, has been detained?
I'm reading that she was released as she was determined to "pose no threat". Isn't sending death threats illegal? Or has the Wisconsin police just totally abdicated their responsibilities?
I noticed that one person said "sorry" as they bumped into Meade, who once again wants to push his way through-- I mean this is another example of the violence and chaos of these protests.
" I mean this is another example of the violence and chaos of these protests."
Had they realized who he was, they no doubt would've reverted to the violence and bile that he's encountered every other time one of the protesting slugs recognized him as an "outsider".
retire05 - Ann, perhaps you can find out if the person that has been identified as sending the death threats to Gov. Walker, and at least two Republicans, has been detained? I'm reading that she was released...
Link please? I read a couple of stories saying the person was arrested, and now the DA is deciding how to charge the suspect.
What you mean that you were not walking against the flow causing a person who was talking to someone else and therefore bumped into you and said "sorry," how is that a lie. Based on your video, I am entitled to my description and framing of the events, just as you frame them in your approach. I suppose if I had called the protestors, cows, or fat, or dump, or bong smoking hippies as so many of the posters on this blog have--then that would not offend you. Call me a Badger along with the other cool folks from Wisconsin who were there today.
Things have come to a pretty pass, Our politics are growing flat, For Dems like this and unions the other While Indies go for this and GOPers that. Goodness knows what the end will be; Oh, I don't know where I'm at (France?)... It looks as if the two will never be one, Something must be done.
You say union, I say no way, You say more taxes, I say less, You say Badger, I say Bodger, Unions, More, taxes, less Let's call the whole thing off.
I didn't see any Eat More Chikenn banners in today's cow parade. Or were these cows standing up for the public employee unions who have de facto owned Wisconsin for so long.That will be a major attitude adjustment if public servants have to serve someone besides themselves.
Roachy said.... Call me a Badger along with the other cool folks from Wisconsin who were there today."
Dude there are no cool folks from Wisconsin. You need a reality check. You guys are whiter than white yuppie douchenozzle hipster dofous scumbags. You could spell cool if I spotted you a "C" and two "O's." You are government cheese on Wonder Bread with mayonaise. Wisconsin is where cool goes to die. I mean you are channeling 1968 for crying out loud.
Yup, the right of hysterical Leftists to threaten murder is alive and well in Wisconsin. It's getting to the point where someone has to consider completely replacing the Police leadership. A town back in MA (Spencer) once did that (I'm sure it's happened elsewhere, too). The force was so corrupt, and so incestuously intertwined with the Town Selectmen that the Governor/Staties came in and "fired" 90% of them, including the Chief and all his little trolls. I think Madison could use a dose of that medicine.
I love the idea, promulgated by the sorts of people who like "protests", that just because the people who participate in them are "good people", or "cool", or "just average Wisconsinites letting their voice be heard", that other people are supposed to validate them and suppress any critical impulse. It's a symptom of a larger, more pernicious movement in American culture, the idea that criticizing "authentic" things, like protests and lefty politics and bad art, is "being negative" and "hateful". I don't care how "good" and "average" and "cool" your people in their tractors and cow costumes might be, some of us think they're wrong (assuming, of course, that it's even possible to tease out the precise meaning of this never-ending circus) and we reserve the right to say so. Good people are often wrong about things, and misguided, and "good intentions" often lead to terrible outcomes. Just because acting like ninnies in the streets and public buildings of Madison makes you feel good doesn't make you immune from criticism.
I generally dislike public protest rallies of any kind. They encourage bad group thinking, they forces me to ally myself with ridiculous people, they quickly become diluted to the point that most of the people there don't even know what they're protesting about (other than that bad, bad man Walker), and they're a nuisance for other citizens trying to peacefully go about their business.
You had your say, and you've had your say (whatever it is you've been saying) for nearly the last 3 weeks. Isn't it time to pack up the parade and go home, and exercise an actually meaningful protest, your vote, at the next election?
Have you ever considered that there are people who agree with your viewpoint (again, whatever that is) and still think this endless undergraduate-level-theater nonsense is counterproductive, disruptive and stupid?
And I'd add that I've never been to a "tea party" rally, and I would never (under ordinary circumstances) go to one, for the same reasons I've outlined above. Rallies and parades are generally silly and ineffective. The real power is in your vote. Of course, you people are trying your best to screw that up as well. After all, isn't that what this circus is really about? You lost at the ballot box, and you're determined to screech until those who won cave in. Where was all the screeching when it mattered, before the 2010 elections?
That is probably one of the stupidest comments ever made.
Clearly Meade is being a massive douche, walking against traffic with his stupid Flip not even apologizing or saying excuse me as he conducts his supposedly neutral citizen journalism by walking right into people as they march. I mean, it is one thing to record people, it is another to act like an asshole while doing so.
Also, I thought the protests were just going to end once the vote was taken?
I'm wondering why the name of the arrested woman has not been released. Is she a minor? I don't know the laws/protocols related to such info in the state of Wisconsin (and those do vary from state to state). In the states in which I worked, that info was available either after an arrest was made or after an arraignment (or in PA during an arraignment if you went to the DJ court and waited for the proceedings, or just happened to be there). You weren't necessarily entitled to a suspect's name prior to arrest. The situation changed in the case of arrest/charges. The exact point at which the public is entitled to learn certain, though not all, basic details (and the press--which in this day and age ought include "new press," IMO, but may not--by law is entitled to obtain that information) does vary from state to state. (It has also varied over time: see Sunshine Laws and the evolution of, amendments to, and limits on such.) Can anyone tell me what the situation is in Wisconsin in regards to public release of arrest-related info?
I'm wondering why the name of the arrested woman has not been released. Is she a minor? I don't know the laws/protocols related to such info in the state of Wisconsin (and those do vary from state to state). In the states in which I worked, that info was available either after an arrest was made or after an arraignment (or in PA during an arraignment if you went to the DJ court and waited for the proceedings, or just happened to be there). You weren't necessarily entitled to a suspect's name prior to arrest. The situation changed in the case of arrest/charges. The exact point at which the public is entitled to learn certain, though not all, basic details (and the press--which in this day and age ought include "new press," IMO, but may not--by law is entitled to obtain that information) does vary from state to state. (It has also varied over time: see Sunshine Laws and the evolution of, amendments to, and limits on such.) Can anyone tell me what the situation is in Wisconsin in regards to public release of arrest-related info?
Weird, my comment in which I stated that "Dude there are no cool folks from Wisconsin" was the one of the stupidest comments ever was deleted.
Oh, I also said that Meade was being a huge douche of a "citizen journalist" by walking against traffic, running into people and not even apologizing or saying excuse me. Really, video recording people is fine, but you don't have to be a total ass whilst doing so.
OK. I'm confused. In my gmail, I'm seeing a double-posting of a comment I made just BEFORE my agree-with-Palladian one. Here, it's not appearing at all.
Am I getting caught in a spam filter? There wasn't a link in the posting[s].
I'm wondering why the name of the arrested woman has not been released. Is she a minor? I don't know the laws/protocols related to such info in the state of Wisconsin (and those do vary from state to state). In the states in which I worked, that info was available either after an arrest was made or after an arraignment (or in PA during an arraignment if you went to the DJ court and waited for the proceedings, or just happened to be there). You weren't necessarily entitled to a suspect's name prior to arrest. The situation changed in the case of arrest/charges. The exact point at which the public is entitled to learn certain, though not all, basic details (and the press--which in this day and age ought include "new press," IMO, but may not--by law is entitled to obtain that information) does vary from state to state. (It has also varied over time: see Sunshine Laws and the evolution of, amendments to, and limits on such.) Can anyone tell me what the situation is in Wisconsin in regards to public release of arrest-related info?
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Posted by reader_iam to Althouse at 3/12/11 4:19 PM
Public protests are valid when and where the right to vote is restricted. It is the only voice the disenfranchised have. I don't think the right to vote is restricted in Wisconsin. It's not like blacks in the segregated south or 18 year-olds being drafted but not allowed to vote. Public protests in Wisconsin are stupid.
I drove to Madison from Milwaukee with a bunch of these folks today.
A "Solidarity" WI-fist sign on a Volvo? That doesn't work for me. Less than 1 in 10 of the vehicles on westbound I-94 were UAW built. Driving back after the protest had started, I noticed the percentage of union vehicles heading to Madison was higher.
Tip to Meade - Check out some teacher parking lots on Monday. You will prove my point.
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Ann, perhaps you can find out if the person that has been identified as sending the death threats to Gov. Walker, and at least two Republicans, has been detained?
I'm reading that she was released as she was determined to "pose no threat". Isn't sending death threats illegal? Or has the Wisconsin police just totally abdicated their responsibilities?
I like that "moo" at the end of the video.
Why, it is almost like the Doo Dah Parade has come to Wisconsin.
You must be so proud
They let go the person who send terroristic threats? Seriously? Isn't that a Felony?
Meade's the first person I ever saw showing the results of what it means to "move against traffic."
Do they do parades for St. Patty's Day? (New York City even supplies green beer.)
And, other than the wonders of watching our First Amendment giving people places to vent ... Where's the downside?
Ah, The DOO-DAH! Anybody can march. And, one of the best delights are the gals who strut with their briefcases. All dressed to look alike, too.
Then? The vendors come out.
How come Madison, Wisconsin is without vendors?
Reminded me of the scene in "Twister":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4a35U3VU1w
I noticed that one person said "sorry" as they bumped into Meade, who once again wants to push his way through-- I mean this is another example of the violence and chaos of these protests.
When Ann said cows I thought...
Never mind.
I'm a Shaaaaark said...
They let go the person who send terroristic threats? Seriously? Isn't that a Felony?
Where they have cops and not union slugs, well, yeah...
" I mean this is another example of the violence and chaos of these protests."
Had they realized who he was, they no doubt would've reverted to the violence and bile that he's encountered every other time one of the protesting slugs recognized him as an "outsider".
Nice try, pushing that lie again, roesch-voltaire, you weaselly little worm.
Mardi Gras in Wisconsin.
But what are they protesting? Isn't this a done deal now?
Just having a party and relieving their feelings at having been ignored?
They certainly looked like local cows. Now if they had been happy California cows....
Just sayin
retire05 - Ann, perhaps you can find out if the person that has been identified as sending the death threats to Gov. Walker, and at least two Republicans, has been detained? I'm reading that she was released...
Link please? I read a couple of stories saying the person was arrested, and now the DA is deciding how to charge the suspect.
http://whbl.com/news/articles/2011/mar/12/suspect-who-allegedly-sent-death-threats-located/
http://lacrossetribune.com/news/statebudget/article_134d63a4-4c2d-11e0-ba2e-001cc4c03286.html
Drill... You beat me to the "Happy Cow" comment!
I didn't know cows were really saying "Booooooo."
What you mean that you were not walking against the flow causing a person who was talking to someone else and therefore bumped into you and said "sorry," how is that a lie. Based on your video, I am entitled to my description and framing of the events, just as you frame them in your approach. I suppose if I had called the protestors, cows, or fat, or dump, or bong smoking hippies as so many of the posters on this blog have--then that would not offend you. Call me a Badger along with the other cool folks from Wisconsin who were there today.
Interesting choice, as they are the ones milking the taxpayer cow.
Who made the decision to close the streets around the Capitol to accomodate the protesters?
@R-V
...cool folks from Wisconsin...
I don't think the word cool means what you think it means...but then the left thinks Obama is the epitome of cool, so go figure.
BUHWAHAHAHAHA!
Udderly charming.
@R-V
"Call me a Badger..."
Things have come to a pretty pass,
Our politics are growing flat,
For Dems like this and unions the other
While Indies go for this and GOPers that.
Goodness knows what the end will be;
Oh, I don't know where I'm at (France?)...
It looks as if the two will never be one,
Something must be done.
You say union, I say no way,
You say more taxes, I say less,
You say Badger, I say Bodger,
Unions, More, taxes, less
Let's call the whole thing off.
(Apologies to the Gershwin Bros)
I didn't see any Eat More Chikenn banners in today's cow parade. Or were these cows standing up for the public employee unions who have de facto owned Wisconsin for so long.That will be a major attitude adjustment if public servants have to serve someone besides themselves.
Roachy said....
Call me a Badger along with the other cool folks from Wisconsin who were there today."
Dude there are no cool folks from Wisconsin. You need a reality check. You guys are whiter than white yuppie douchenozzle hipster dofous scumbags. You could spell cool if I spotted you a "C" and two "O's." You are government cheese on Wonder Bread with mayonaise. Wisconsin is where cool goes to die. I mean you are channeling 1968 for crying out loud.
Cool. Give me a fuckin' break.
Ever see the hilarious Cows with Guns video?
Partial lyrics:
Fat and docile, big and dumb
They look so stupid, they aren't much fun
Cows aren't fun
They eat to grow, they grow to die
They die to be eaten at the hamburger fry
Cows well done
Nobody thunk it, nobody knew
No one imagined the great cow guru
Cows are one
He hid in the forest, read books with great zeal
He loved Che Guevera, a revolutionary veal
Cow Tse Tongue
He spoke about justice, but nobody stirred
He felt like an outcast, alone, in the herd.
Cow doldrums
He mooed we must fight, escape or we'll die
Cows gathered around, cause the stakes were so high
Bad cow pun
Scrutineer's report of an arrest in the murder threats is correct. Gateway Pundit has a piece on it. A woman, too.
lol, that Pasadena parade looks like fun...I think I'll add it to my bucket list. Hmmm...belly dancing down the street...I could do that!
Yup, the right of hysterical Leftists to threaten murder is alive and well in Wisconsin.
It's getting to the point where someone has to consider completely replacing the Police leadership. A town back in MA (Spencer) once did that (I'm sure it's happened elsewhere, too). The force was so corrupt, and so incestuously intertwined with the Town Selectmen that the Governor/Staties came in and "fired" 90% of them, including the Chief and all his little trolls. I think Madison could use a dose of that medicine.
I love the idea, promulgated by the sorts of people who like "protests", that just because the people who participate in them are "good people", or "cool", or "just average Wisconsinites letting their voice be heard", that other people are supposed to validate them and suppress any critical impulse. It's a symptom of a larger, more pernicious movement in American culture, the idea that criticizing "authentic" things, like protests and lefty politics and bad art, is "being negative" and "hateful". I don't care how "good" and "average" and "cool" your people in their tractors and cow costumes might be, some of us think they're wrong (assuming, of course, that it's even possible to tease out the precise meaning of this never-ending circus) and we reserve the right to say so. Good people are often wrong about things, and misguided, and "good intentions" often lead to terrible outcomes. Just because acting like ninnies in the streets and public buildings of Madison makes you feel good doesn't make you immune from criticism.
I generally dislike public protest rallies of any kind. They encourage bad group thinking, they forces me to ally myself with ridiculous people, they quickly become diluted to the point that most of the people there don't even know what they're protesting about (other than that bad, bad man Walker), and they're a nuisance for other citizens trying to peacefully go about their business.
You had your say, and you've had your say (whatever it is you've been saying) for nearly the last 3 weeks. Isn't it time to pack up the parade and go home, and exercise an actually meaningful protest, your vote, at the next election?
Have you ever considered that there are people who agree with your viewpoint (again, whatever that is) and still think this endless undergraduate-level-theater nonsense is counterproductive, disruptive and stupid?
And I'd add that I've never been to a "tea party" rally, and I would never (under ordinary circumstances) go to one, for the same reasons I've outlined above. Rallies and parades are generally silly and ineffective. The real power is in your vote. Of course, you people are trying your best to screw that up as well. After all, isn't that what this circus is really about? You lost at the ballot box, and you're determined to screech until those who won cave in. Where was all the screeching when it mattered, before the 2010 elections?
The 14 Democrats have returned to the State: While we were gone, democracy failed in so many ways.
The 14 Democrats have returned to the State: While we were gone, democracy failed in so many ways.
Well.....the biggest failure was their refusal to participate in the democratic process.
Their other failure is the inability to realize that we are NOT a democracy, but rather a representative republic.
When the Dems refuse to represent the people who elected them.......epic fail.
They could have been broken up more effectively if Walker had sent some mercenaries to shoot them.
Will the 14 Democrats be tried for treason? I hope so! That's a capital offense... or at least a Capitol offense, right?
MAn... The cows are pissed everywhere!
And remember... Don't urinate in public!!!
Work that strawman, Julie! Beat the fucking straw out of him!
"Dude there are no cool folks from Wisconsin."
That is probably one of the stupidest comments ever made.
Clearly Meade is being a massive douche, walking against traffic with his stupid Flip not even apologizing or saying excuse me as he conducts his supposedly neutral citizen journalism by walking right into people as they march. I mean, it is one thing to record people, it is another to act like an asshole while doing so.
Also, I thought the protests were just going to end once the vote was taken?
I'm wondering why the name of the arrested woman has not been released. Is she a minor? I don't know the laws/protocols related to such info in the state of Wisconsin (and those do vary from state to state). In the states in which I worked, that info was available either after an arrest was made or after an arraignment (or in PA during an arraignment if you went to the DJ court and waited for the proceedings, or just happened to be there). You weren't necessarily entitled to a suspect's name prior to arrest. The situation changed in the case of arrest/charges. The exact point at which the public is entitled to learn certain, though not all, basic details (and the press--which in this day and age ought include "new press," IMO, but may not--by law is entitled to obtain that information) does vary from state to state. (It has also varied over time: see Sunshine Laws and the evolution of, amendments to, and limits on such.) Can anyone tell me what the situation is in Wisconsin in regards to public release of arrest-related info?
I'm wondering why the name of the arrested woman has not been released. Is she a minor? I don't know the laws/protocols related to such info in the state of Wisconsin (and those do vary from state to state). In the states in which I worked, that info was available either after an arrest was made or after an arraignment (or in PA during an arraignment if you went to the DJ court and waited for the proceedings, or just happened to be there). You weren't necessarily entitled to a suspect's name prior to arrest. The situation changed in the case of arrest/charges. The exact point at which the public is entitled to learn certain, though not all, basic details (and the press--which in this day and age ought include "new press," IMO, but may not--by law is entitled to obtain that information) does vary from state to state. (It has also varied over time: see Sunshine Laws and the evolution of, amendments to, and limits on such.) Can anyone tell me what the situation is in Wisconsin in regards to public release of arrest-related info?
I want to wholeheartedly second Palladian's 3:21, by the way.
Weird, my comment in which I stated that "Dude there are no cool folks from Wisconsin" was the one of the stupidest comments ever was deleted.
Oh, I also said that Meade was being a huge douche of a "citizen journalist" by walking against traffic, running into people and not even apologizing or saying excuse me. Really, video recording people is fine, but you don't have to be a total ass whilst doing so.
OK. I'm confused. In my gmail, I'm seeing a double-posting of a comment I made just BEFORE my agree-with-Palladian one. Here, it's not appearing at all.
Am I getting caught in a spam filter? There wasn't a link in the posting[s].
Ahh, I wondered what the term was for cows. Solidarity of cows = parliament of owls. Got it!
BTW, our British cows have less controversial outings. E.g., the London Marathon.
I'm wondering why the name of the arrested woman has not been released. Is she a minor? I don't know the laws/protocols related to such info in the state of Wisconsin (and those do vary from state to state). In the states in which I worked, that info was available either after an arrest was made or after an arraignment (or in PA during an arraignment if you went to the DJ court and waited for the proceedings, or just happened to be there). You weren't necessarily entitled to a suspect's name prior to arrest. The situation changed in the case of arrest/charges. The exact point at which the public is entitled to learn certain, though not all, basic details (and the press--which in this day and age ought include "new press," IMO, but may not--by law is entitled to obtain that information) does vary from state to state. (It has also varied over time: see Sunshine Laws and the evolution of, amendments to, and limits on such.) Can anyone tell me what the situation is in Wisconsin in regards to public release of arrest-related info?
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Posted by reader_iam to Althouse at 3/12/11 4:19 PM
Good thing your post was eaten by blogger there pal. Maybe by the only cool guy who ever lived in cheesehead land.
I thought 'solidarity of cows' was more like 'Silence of the lambs'
Wisconsin it the Miracle Whip Ambrosia of states.
Cool is to Wisconsin as competent is to Obama.
You can keep telling us that it is so but you know in your heart that it's not true.
I thought 'solidarity of cows' was more like 'Silence of the lambs'
Mmm-mmm, cows, chianti and fava beans.
wv: bazoesti ...a Romanian town known for its solidarity of cows?
Wisconsin is the Pauly Shore of States.
Cows rule! Hear me moo
OK, well, a repost of the comment, via cut-and-paste from the original gmail) did go through. But now it's gone again.
So maybe it's not getting caught up in the spam filter, which is what I assumed.
I'll take the hint.
Public protests are valid when and where the right to vote is restricted. It is the only voice the disenfranchised have. I don't think the right to vote is restricted in Wisconsin. It's not like blacks in the segregated south or 18 year-olds being drafted but not allowed to vote. Public protests in Wisconsin are stupid.
In the swimsuit competition of America, Wisconsin is Kathy Griffin.
In the music that is America, Wisconsin is the Cowsills.
In the stooges of American Life, Wisconsin is the Shemp.
The solidarity cows are a first. They're the only cows that milk the public.
I drove to Madison from Milwaukee with a bunch of these folks today.
A "Solidarity" WI-fist sign on a Volvo? That doesn't work for me. Less than 1 in 10 of the vehicles on westbound I-94 were UAW built. Driving back after the protest had started, I noticed the percentage of union vehicles heading to Madison was higher.
Tip to Meade - Check out some teacher parking lots on Monday. You will prove my point.
My comment died, too.
Soli-dairy-ity?
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