Althouse: Do we care if Biden says the f-word to Obama and it's picked up by the microphone?

March 23, 2010

Do we care if Biden says the f-word to Obama and it's picked up by the microphone?

And if we do care that Biden said "Mr. President, this is a big fucking deal," why should we care?

78 comments:

Hoosier Daddy said...: I never care what Biden says. Just like I don't care what the homeless drunk on the corner says as they both carry about the same weight.; 3/23/10, 2:05 PM
garage mahal said...: No choice for "I fucking love it!"; 3/23/10, 2:06 PM
Peter V. Bella said...: Joe Biden proves everyday he is the dumbest White man in America. Palin is a genius compared to this macaroon. Hell, a Ventriloquist dummy has more intelligence.; 3/23/10, 2:08 PM
Hoosier Daddy said...: Although for those of us who pay taxes and health insurance premiums, we're getting a good deal of fucking though.; 3/23/10, 2:09 PM
prairie wind said...: So what if some idiot said a bad word?

So what if some fucking idiot said a bad word?

So what if some idiot said a bad word to a fucking idiot?; 3/23/10, 2:13 PM
mccullough said...: I always thought W. 's comment to Cheney near a live mike during the 2000 election: "There's Adam Clymer, major-league asshole from the New York Times" and Cheney replying back "Oh yeah, big time" pretty much clinched the election for him.

Unlike Biden's comment, I think that one from Bush was planned.; 3/23/10, 2:16 PM
reader_iam said...: Around here, we value teachable moments and take advantage of them . ; )

wv: svarful -- what Biden was; 3/23/10, 2:18 PM
Sofa King said...: I don't fucking care.

But I WANT a fucking CAR, RIGHT fucking NOW.; 3/23/10, 2:18 PM
Stephen said...: Why no choice for those who are happy today?; 3/23/10, 2:20 PM
garage mahal said...: I have beautiful 1990 Alpine White BMW 535i Sofa. E34 body. Seriously, it is you! High miles, [206k) lovingly maintained though. Many used parts!; 3/23/10, 2:20 PM
Roger J. said...: this is important why; 3/23/10, 2:22 PM
Sofa King said...: Whoosh?; 3/23/10, 2:24 PM
Crimso said...: No fucking question that's the smartest fucking thing he's ever fucking said. No, wait a fucking minute. It's the only smart thing he's ever fucking said. And he's right. It is a big FUCKING deal, as in "somebody's getting fucked." Probably more accurate to say it's a big raping deal.; 3/23/10, 2:24 PM
Hoosier Daddy said...: But I WANT a fucking CAR, RIGHT fucking NOW.

Just as long as its not an SUV. President Obama said we can't drive those anymore. Oh and go on a diet and turn off your thermostat.; 3/23/10, 2:25 PM
Shanna said...: I enjoy when Biden embarrasses Obama, but not nearly as much as I enjoyed Kansas LOSING this weekend!!! Woot!; 3/23/10, 2:29 PM
Sofa King said...: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5o8DFfYHS4

The pièce de résistance for superaltive f-bombs, as far as I am concerned.; 3/23/10, 2:30 PM
Anonymous said...: As a new convert to the left's insistence that we respect science, their deep concern for the health of the citizenry, and their vision to create a tight-knit, loving community of compassion (as well as their attention to keeping healthcare costs down):

I propose the immediate passage of tough new federal laws to restrict gay sex, limit to 3 the number of sexual partners each person can have, ban smoking outright, and ban unwed birth and divorce.

Science is clear that these activities all cause an increase incidence of health problems, and it isn't fair that some people should use up more than their fair share of health care resources and costs.

It should be widely declared that it is unpatriotic and morally wrong to our collective community, to get an STD and thereby waste government and the tax payer's resources to treat you.

Therefore, I propose a Sex Partner Cap and Trade system whereby each person can sell or buy their allotment of sexual partners.

Smokers should be put in jail for absconding with the public's hard borrowed health care funds.

Abortion must be recognized for what it truly is - a killer of a future tax payer and insurance buyer - and therefore must be banned.

I'm starting to see the left's vision for a Utopian society. I wonder they can see and agree with my vision also.; 3/23/10, 2:30 PM
Chip Ahoy said...: Hahaha.; 3/23/10, 2:34 PM
Chip Ahoy said...: Science has determined that the impulse to control the behavior of others is a nervous condition that left untreated develops to a debilitative state. This is bad. For the sake of a healthy community, it's determined to check those impulses, whenever such a thought is expressed, the person should deposit $5.00 into a community account to be divided between myself and for M&M candy for everybody else.; 3/23/10, 2:40 PM
joeschmo1of3 said...: Great job in phrasing the last choice in the poll, Ann!; 3/23/10, 2:44 PM
reader_iam said...: No, no, no, Quayle--smoking should be ENCOURAGED (though not near nonsmokers): Taxes on cigarettes fund a hell of a lot of other stuff (have you checked lately how much states rely on them?), and we can always just refuse to treat smokers for any condition that could be related to smoking, thus NOT expending any more (and likely less) health care resources on them. And then, they'll die younger!--thus posing less of drain than longer-living elderly types do. Think of the savings in Social Security payouts, for example.; 3/23/10, 2:46 PM
Methadras said...: Yeah, fucking is about the right word to use here since that's what is happening to America with this Marxists in office.; 3/23/10, 2:50 PM
Chip Ahoy said...: I'm not listening any more.

In fact, I let the air out of my tires then ran errands with them improperly inflated just to prove the point I don't need no stink'n president instructing me on car maintenance. Then I filled them back a little beyond the stated level just to be bouncier because it's fun. So there; 3/23/10, 2:55 PM
Joan said...: There are no words that sufficiently describe how embarrassing Biden is. His role in the current meltdown of our relationship with Israel makes this gaffe pale in comparison. Can't we lock him in a room somewhere and slide food & water through a slot in the door?; 3/23/10, 3:02 PM
Rialby said...: Just to clarify - it was Sarah Palin that wasn't ready for primetime?; 3/23/10, 3:04 PM
Unknown said...: I thought we needed another option, "We need somebody who isn't an idiot one heartbeat from the Presidency."

Peter V. is right; every time the National Socialists start talking about Palin, all I have to do is think of Halo Joe and remember brains are left at the door when you are one of them; 3/23/10, 3:04 PM
Rialby said...: Whatever became of the records of Biden's aneurisms? Oh right. Memory hole.; 3/23/10, 3:05 PM
ricpic said...: Yes mein Fuhrer, it is effing big zat vee zuround Leningrad, but tomorrow vee take Moscow und zee vorld is ours!; 3/23/10, 3:15 PM
Anonymous said...: If anyone considers himself religious and yet does not keep a tight rein on his tongue, he deceives himself and his religion is worthless. --James 1:26, NIV

That pretty much describes Joe Biden.; 3/23/10, 3:20 PM
Rialby said...: In Joe's own words:

A priest read him his last rites at a Wilmington hospital where doctors told him an artery in his brain was leaking blood, he wrote in his book "“Promises to Keep".

“As I heard it, my chances of surviving the surgery were certainly better than fifty-fifty,” he wrote. “But the chances of waking up with serious deficits to my mental faculties were more significant.”

Let's review the order of succession - Obama, Biden, Pelosi, Robert Byrd.; 3/23/10, 3:25 PM
Joan said...: Let's review the order of succession - Obama, Biden, Pelosi, Robert Byrd.

And that explains why Obama scarcely needs Secret Service or a life insurance policy while he's in office.

When Obama selected Biden, I said that very day it was reason enough for him to lose the election. Then the MSM deep-sixed its coverage of Biden, he just completely disappeared, and they covered up all his past mishaps, too. Anyone familiar with Biden's record knows that he was a very poor choice for the office.

Yet here we are, 2 years and 10 months to go.; 3/23/10, 3:31 PM
Cassie said...: No harm, no foul. So, Joe's an excitable guy. I'm liking the exuberance.; 3/23/10, 3:34 PM
Jeremy said...: 99% of the locals who spend half their lives right here, sucking on the Queen and her dorky husband...are nothing more than fucking tea bagger wing nuts.; 3/23/10, 3:37 PM
Eric said...: To think people used to laugh at Quayle. Quayle is freakin' Einstein compared to Biden.; 3/23/10, 3:37 PM
Jeremy said...: Hoosier Daddy said..."I never care what Biden says. Just like I don't care what the homeless drunk on the corner says as they both carry about the same weight."

This from a guy who thinks being a tea bagger is really cool and spends half his life in a corn field.; 3/23/10, 3:38 PM
Jeremy said...: Eric said..."To think people used to laugh at Quayle. Quayle is freakin' Einstein compared to Biden."

And you base this drivel on Biden possibly saying fuck?

Unlike Danny, I bet Biden can spell fuck, too.; 3/23/10, 3:39 PM
Jeremy said...: Crimso said..."It is a big FUCKING deal, as in "somebody's getting fucked." Probably more accurate to say it's a big raping deal."

So just keep the insurance you have, fuckhead.

That is if you can actually get a company to insure your sorry ass.

*By the way, what kind of money do you get paid to do those Geico commercials?; 3/23/10, 3:42 PM
Jeremy said...: Eric - It's a little late to defend Dan Quayle.; 3/23/10, 3:43 PM
Jeremy said...: So now that President Obama did exactly what he said he would, making most here look like the fools that they are, we're now moving onto whatever you can come up with to bitch and whine about the Vice-President.

So far the local tea bagger wing nuts here have been wrong about literally everything they think will come to pass.

And I love it.; 3/23/10, 3:46 PM
Jeremy said...: Market's up another 100 points today.

It's gone from about 6,500 when President Obama takk over...to 10,800.

If you idiots spent more time researching and buying stocks, and less time whining and bitching, you could all afford to move to Costa Rica with the fat man.

By the way...when is the Ann's hero making the move?; 3/23/10, 3:49 PM
Scott said...: If Uglycrat Senator Robert Byrd can refer to his opponents as "white n-----s" while the NAACP and the national press yawns, then our brilliant Vice President is certainly free to drop F-bombs whenever and wherever he likes. Hell, bring him on Sesame Street and let him tell the kids about the letter "F". He's an Uglycrat, so anything he says is charming by default.; 3/23/10, 4:00 PM
kjbe said...: We're on a run, maybe the next VP will use it in a sentence as a noun.; 3/23/10, 4:00 PM
Scott said...: Unless the veep is a Republican; 3/23/10, 4:05 PM
I'm Full of Soup said...: Joe Biden said:

“As I heard it, my chances of surviving the surgery were certainly better than fifty-fifty,” he wrote. “But the chances of waking up with serious deficits to my mental faculties were more significant.”

That explains his negative IQ number.; 3/23/10, 4:10 PM
Anonymous said...: It is nothing to what the GOP has done. It is over for them. Obama-Biden till Jan. 2013 with majority in Senate and House. Q.E.D.; 3/23/10, 4:10 PM
Scott said...: It's true! It's true! The crown has made it clear.
The climate must be perfect all the year.

A law was made a distant moon ago here:
July and August cannot be too hot.
And there's a legal limit to the snow here
In Camelot.
The winter is forbidden till December
And exits March the second on the dot.
By order, summer lingers through September
In Camelot.

Camelot! Camelot!
I know it sounds a bit bizarre,
But in Camelot, Camelot
That's how conditions are.
The rain may never fall till after sundown.
By eight, the morning fog must disappear.
In short, there's simply not
A more congenial spot
For happily-ever-aftering than here
In Camelot.

Camelot! Camelot!
I know it gives a person pause,
But in Camelot, Camelot
Those are the legal laws.
The snow may never slush upon the hillside.
By nine p.m. the moonlight must appear.
In short, there's simply not
A more congenial spot
For happily-ever-aftering than here
In Camelot.; 3/23/10, 4:12 PM
Scott said...: Will Obamacare cover the rubber crutch that Jeremy's comments are as useless as?; 3/23/10, 4:17 PM
Anonymous said...: I voted honestly for #4, but I really wanted to choose either #3 or #5 because they had profanity in them.

Please, Professor Fuckhouse, more fucking expletives in the fucking polls.; 3/23/10, 4:20 PM
Fred4Pres said...: fuckeddy fuck fuck fuck.; 3/23/10, 4:21 PM
kentuckyliz said...: I like the protester's signs that said, at least buy me a drink first. LOL

WV tnestes
Vols with cajones; 3/23/10, 4:40 PM
kentuckyliz said...: I want my fucking free pony, NOW!!!; 3/23/10, 4:41 PM
Michael Hayne said...: let's stop pretendingthat Vice-President Biden saying fuck to express his joy and jubilation over something for which he worked his entire legislative career is newsworthy. Instead, let's focus on how far and far the GOP and their supporters are from kookistan and devolving by the second.

http://chickensoupforthecynicssoul.blogspot.com/2010/03/shut-front-door-biden-say-what-now.html; 3/23/10, 4:55 PM
Fred4Pres said...: kentucky liz, my wife told me about a bumpersticker she saw that said "If you are going to ride my ass, at least buy me a drink and pull my hair." She thought it was really funny, although I suspect it would get a few stares at the kids' school.; 3/23/10, 4:57 PM
SteveR said...: We should encourage Joe to spend as much time as possible with Obama. The real damage occurs when he's out and about alone in some official capacity representing the United States.; 3/23/10, 4:58 PM
Fred4Pres said...: Michael Hayne, the only people who are in kookistan are those that think this Health Care Reform legislation will make the country, or for that matter, health care, better.; 3/23/10, 4:59 PM
holdfast said...: "Joe Biden is the kind of VP who would fuck a country up the ass and not even have the god-given courtesy to give it a reach around".

-Gunny Hartmann

I all seriousness, I could really care less, though I hope the same standard applies the next time a Republican VP tells an arsehole Senator to go Dick Cheney himself.; 3/23/10, 5:00 PM
Lem Vibe Bandit said...: We don't like being reminded that we really are fucked.

Yea we have voted ourselves a new credit card.. we should really be happy.; 3/23/10, 5:07 PM
Anonymous said...: My mantra to the lefty liberals on this blog:

How you gonna pay for it?

How you gonna pay for it?

How you gonna pay for it?

The Chinese already grow tired of lending us money.

Do you think we should just print the money?

Or should we tax the 21 - 30 year bracket into to oblivion? Their economic future is already destroyed by you lefty Utopians.

While you rejoice in your momentary seeming victor, some of us are asking such hard questions.

How are you gonna pay for it?; 3/23/10, 5:35 PM
AllenS said...: We're not so much fucked. It's the generations after us. Those are the people who are fucked.; 3/23/10, 5:42 PM
Jim Howard said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; 3/23/10, 5:44 PM
Jim Howard said...: This confirms that Biden is a Clymer, but we knew that already.; 3/23/10, 5:45 PM
Big Mike said...: This guy Biden has never been anything but an empty suit and a haircut. He was worthless on the best day of his life, and going downhill ever since.; 3/23/10, 5:45 PM
Rialby said...: Quayle - don't bother with your silly little rational arguments. The Left will pay no attention or claim the whole thing will pay for itself. You're arguing with people who have a religious belief in THEIR right to use the state to grant and revoke rights.; 3/23/10, 5:46 PM
MamaM said...: At least, your polls made me laugh and gave me a feeling of choice.

What's worse? A president who routinely lies or a Veep who publicly uses the f-word?

Both behaviors are signs of disrespect.

Chronic incivility, covered with pretense.; 3/23/10, 5:54 PM
Deborah M. said...: I really despise them both, but I almost feel sorry for Obama when Biden cuts loose. Almost....but not quite. I wonder if Obama wonders "what was I thinking?"; 3/23/10, 6:25 PM
Unknown said...: Big Mike said...

This guy Biden has never been anything but an empty suit and a haircut. He was worthless on the best day of his life, and going downhill ever since.

Yes, but his IQ is better than yours. Give him a chance and he will tell you so.; 3/23/10, 6:26 PM
Eric said...: How you gonna pay for it?

They're gonna tax the "rich". With, you know "rich" starting at about $25k.; 3/23/10, 6:30 PM
Big Mike said...: Yes, but his IQ is better than yours. Give him a chance and he will tell you so.

I don't know about that. He was supposed to be Con Law professor before he became Veep, yet in his debate with Sarah Palin he misstated the purpose of Article I of the Constitution. So he teaches constitutional law and he doesn't know what's in Article I?

I think my kid's pet bird could get a partial lobotomy and be brighter than Joe Biden.; 3/23/10, 6:41 PM
Unknown said...: I don't care that Biden used the F word. I also didn't care when Dick Cheney used the F word on the Senate floor when he was vice president.; 3/23/10, 6:41 PM
alumni affairs director said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; 3/23/10, 6:56 PM
Anonymous said...: Let me get this straight...

The GOP are so "holy" they can't handle the "f" word, but they are OK with denying healthcare for children and adults with pre-existing conditions, they're OK with Bible quotes on gun sights, they're OK with rape in the military-- www.republicansforrape.com--
they think torture would be OK w/ Jesus, they refuse to help pregnant women w/maternity care but insist on her giving birth to a healthy child, and my personal favorite: they insist that the Bible is devoid of the call to social justice.; 3/23/10, 9:28 PM
reader_iam said...: Rosanne Ferreri-Feske, CEO wrote:

"Let me get this straight...

The GOP are so "holy" they can't handle the "f" word, but they are OK with denying healthcare for children and adults with pre-existing conditions, they're OK with Bible quotes on gun sights, they're OK with rape in the military-- www.republicansforrape.com--
they think torture would be OK w/ Jesus, they refuse to help pregnant women w/maternity care but insist on her giving birth to a healthy child, and my personal favorite: they insist that the Bible is devoid of the call to social justice."

OK. Well, then, let ME get something straight ...

People who are trying to get things straight and pins things down (and, by the way, by implication make accusations of inability to recognize nuance) present their queries as "the XXs [in this case, Republicans] think...".

Not "some XXs". Not "a few XXs". Not even "most XXS."

Oh, no--it's "the XXS...".

Now, it is true that you, Rosanne Ferreri-Feske, CEO, specifically wrote: "The GOP.... But, of course, and as well you know, you followed right quickly thereafter with a whole string of "are's" and "they's". What ought anyone to take from that but that you're not really talking about an official entity, but rather all (and, perhaps, any) individuals who are (and, I suspect, can in any way be) connected with that label, and-- by extension--any other labels you use to diminish people you don't agree with, perhaps don't like, or maybe even both.

Let's review what you wrote, in your own words, one more time:

Blogger Rosanne Ferreri-Feske, CEO said...

"Let me get this straight...

The GOP are so "holy" they can't handle the "f" word, but they are OK with denying healthcare for children and adults with pre-existing conditions, they're OK with Bible quotes on gun sights, they're OK with rape in the military--www.republicansforrape.com--
they think torture would be OK w/Jesus, they refuse to help pregnant women w/maternity care but insist on her giving birth to a healthy child, and my personal favorite: they insist that the Bible is devoid of the call to social justice.

Let me make myself clear: I am not calling out a group. And I am not calling out a particular someone on the basis of what I think this, that or another Official Grouping or even group of people must think.

No. I am calling out a particular someone, Rosanne Ferreri-Feske, CEO, based on the way she chose to write a comment she freely chose to post.; 3/23/10, 10:32 PM
reader_iam said...: You know, Alinsky quotes are all the rage now: He's getting ever more famous and influential, posthumously. FTR, I actually read Alinsky decades ago (along with reading all sorts, and all along the spectrum, of things). I mean, for what that's worth 'n' all.

Anyway, here's a bit of rosemary that's poked its way up into my mind this evening:

"The normal and the stigmatized are not persons, but perspectives."--Erving Goffman; 3/24/10, 12:29 AM
rhhardin said...: Imus in the Morning played the Biden clip, which was unintelligible except for a beep covering the unheard f-word.

wv velity, a wish with bad spelling.; 3/24/10, 6:19 AM
Big Mike said...: Hmm. I logged off too early last night and missed the comment by Rosanne Ferreri-Feske.

Rosanne, before we get into "social justice," can I start by asking you what the phrase means to you?

Because to me social justice means that somebody who works harder than his peers should do better that someone who doesn't work as hard. To me social justice means that someone who is into instant gratification should lose out over time to someone who displays more self-discipline. To me social justice means that someone who goes through college taking Mickey-Mouse courses should not get as good a job offer out of college as someone who put in twenty-hour days studying engineering.

And, especially, it means that limousine liberals should not vote for school board members whose policies result in lower-quality education for public school attendees, then send their own kids off to expensive private schools.

Any of that seem close to the mark, Ms. Rosanne Ferreri-Feske?

And, for the record, neither Joe Biden nor Dick Cheney displayed respect for the office they hold (or held, in Cheney's case) by launching f-bombs in public.; 3/24/10, 8:25 AM
jamboree said...: Your poll didn't leave the option for those of us who care not at all.; 3/24/10, 10:24 AM
Anonymous said...: No, Big Mike, Cheney and Bush just got our young men and women into a war over OIL, with a lie about weapons of mass destruction. Thousands of young women have had their lives cut short, due to a lie. Might have been better for him just to have used the "F" word than to truly screw us over, don't cha think.
As for schools, mine went to public school, because I believe a public education is a civil right, just like healthcare.; 3/27/10, 10:09 PM
Anonymous said...: reader_iam,

What is social justice?

First, it's not voluntary for people who call themselves Christians; it's a commandment.

Social justice is defined as being fair and just to all you meet and helping the poor and needy.

Here are just a few of the 2000 passages that require sharing:

* "He defends the cause of the fatherless and the widow, and loves the alien, giving him food and clothing." Deuteronomy 10:18

* "However, there should be no poor among you, for in the land the LORD your God is giving you to possess as your inheritance, he will richly bless you." Deuteronomy 15:4

* "If there is a poor man among your brothers in any of the towns of the land that the LORD your God is giving you, do not be hardhearted or tightfisted toward your poor brother." Deuteronomy 15:7

* "There will always be poor people in the land. Therefore I command you to be openhanded toward your brothers and toward the poor and needy in your land." Deuteronomy 15:11

* "Do not take advantage of a hired man who is poor and needy, whether he is a brother Israelite or an alien living in one of your towns." Deuteronomy 24:14

* "Do not deprive the alien or the fatherless of justice, or take the cloak of the widow as a pledge." Deuteronomy 24:17

* "'Cursed is the man who withholds justice from the alien, the fatherless or the widow.' Then all the people shall say, Amen!'" Deuteronomy 27:19

* "He raises the poor from the dust and lifts the needy from the ash heap; he seats them with princes and has them inherit a throne of honor." 1 Samuel 2:8

* "because I rescued the poor who cried for help, and the fatherless who had none to assist him." Job 29:12

* "Have I not wept for those in trouble? Has not my soul grieved for the poor?" Job 30:25

* "If I have denied the desires of the poor or let the eyes of the widow grow weary." Job 31:16

* "The LORD is a refuge for the oppressed, a stronghold in times of trouble." Psalm 9:9

* "But the needy will not always be forgotten, nor the hope of the afflicted ever perish." Psalm 9:18

* " Because of the oppression of the weak and the groaning of the needy, I will now arise, says the LORD, I will protect them from those who malign them. " Psalm 12:5

* "You evildoers frustrate the plans of the poor, but the LORD is their refuge." Psalm 14:6

* "This poor man called, and the LORD heard him; he saved him out of all his troubles." Psalm 34:6

* "My whole being will exclaim, Who is like you, 0 LORD? You rescue the poor from those too strong for them, the poor and needy from those who rob them.'" Psalm 35:10

* "The wicked draw the sword and bend the bow to bring down the poor and needy, to slay those whose ways are upright." Psalm 37:14

* "Yet I am poor and needy; may the Lord think of me. You are my help and my deliverer; O my God, do not delay." Psalm 40:17

* "A father to the fatherless, a defender of widows, is God in his holy dwelling." Psalm 68:5

* "He will defend the afflicted among the people and save the children of the needy; he will crush the oppressor." Psalm 72:4

* "For he will deliver the needy who cry out, the afflicted who have no one to help. He will take pity on the weak and the needy and save the needy from death." Psalm 72:12-13

Only non-belivers say sharing is optional and voluntary.Pick up a copy the Poverty and Justice Bible, same as King James but with all 2000 OT and NT scriptures on helping the needy highlighted.; 3/27/10, 10:36 PM

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