October 26, 2009

"We may be No. 1, but there is sort of an insurgent quality to Fox News."

"And that's kind of our attitude: 'Hoist a Jolly Roger, pull out our daggers and look for more throats to slit.' This is tremendous fodder for us. My lord, we've been living on it."

35 comments:

traditionalguy said...

Thanks to the Obama Girlie Men that see no evil about anything Obama does at every other news media on TV, Fox has now become the only News Network that draws an audience that wants the real news. That is a real coup. Barry's advisors could ask Putin how he does it. But murder is illegal.

c3 said...

Went to link and was actually more interested in the link to the story about Shiloh Pepin's death.

rhhardin said...

Imus is on Fox News, occasionally taking out this or that important Fox personage, like Neil Cavuto, real audio 9/29.

Adding to the pirate spirit a little.

Invisible Man said...

""We may be No. 1, but there is sort of an insurgent quality to Fox News and Inside Edition.""

/That sounds better

Cedarford said...

Think of the cache` a network would have had during Nixon's age. "Banned from the Nixon White House!".

It worked well for the Sulzbergers and Meyers of the NY Times and WP, according to history books. Getting on Nixon's Enemies List caused both newspaper's credibility to increase and circulation explode.
Both papers wistfully now talk about the gift Nixon gave them as "The Glory Days".

Now we have Obama's great gift to Fox.

(Truth disclaimer - Obama's Enemies List, LIKE Nixons - wasn't the President's idea. Zealous underlings made the list up. Nixon was plenty smart enough to know who his enemies were, and they DID include the Sulzbergers, Meyers, and Paleys. But bright people can do stupid things. Nixon's reaction should have been to a fawning Colson and Ziegler - "Hmmm...Paul Newman? Yeah...Schorr..Hah! Funny! Now shitcan that fucking thing!"

Nixon's mistake. Obama still has his I'm-Not-Like-Nixon window of opportunity.

blake said...

There is, isn't there?

They're out there in the wilderness.

Fighting progress, the future, the truth, reality...with all these people looking askance, desperately worried there might be a little bit of truth to what they report on.

Original Mike said...

From the article: "A senior administration official said the White House had not told Treasury to exclude Fox {from interviewing pay czar, Kenneth Feinberg}, and Gibbs told correspondent Major Garrett it had been a mistake."

So this is the Administration's new line on the incident? It was a misunderstanding?!?!?

Man, these guys are dishonest.

Synova said...

"The activist group MoveOn instantly jumped in the fray, urging Democrats to stay off Fox News programs."

Don't listen! Don't talk to them! Don't appear, don't speak, don't touch the unclean!

Shun those among you who do not comply.

Honestly... it's not just FOX that will react predictably. If there is one thing that journalists value above all else it's their sense of self-importance and holy calling. They might shill for the President all day and all night long *voluntarily* but One would be foolish indeed to think even the biggest shillers don't have a limit that can be reached.

Expat(ish) said...

The thing that amuses me about watching much of the MSM circle the drain is ... for supposedly smart folks they don't seem to learn much.

I work in the high-tech industry and we've seen a LOT of companies come-and-go-and-come-back-again. And we've seen a lot of strategies tried and work in various ways.

All I see the newsies doing is the same old stuff, but more of it.

If Apple has just tried to make a better looking mac-mini all these years their stock wouldn't be at bazillion. Hello, Pinch, there is a host of smart folks out there to help you.

-XC

PS - I am super-conservative and can barely stand to watch Beck/O'Reilley more than a few minutes a week. But it does seem they are at least interested in the filthy commies and hippies (but I repeat myself) in the Obama administration czarland. Which is a heck of a public service. Does anyone think we're not better off without Vann Jones?

traditionalguy said...

The Fox News Wars may go on until a Surge makes independence from the govenment safe for old Media to resume confronting illusions , like a Jake Tapper did recently.

Kev said...

(the other kev)

'Hoist a Jolly Roger, pull out our daggers and look for more throats to slit.'

Wonder if he's quoting Mencken or Ace?

AJ Lynch said...

Does any top exec or big stockholder at ABC, CBS, or NBC news slobber over Fox's TV ratings and ad dollars? Well, they should be!

If they are in business to make money, they should hire away a Bill Oreilley or a Glen Beck?

My point, Trad Guy, is they are too much about liberal ideology or one of them would have emulated Fox News by now.

Henry said...

From the article: "I think the mainstream media has to ask themselves at a time when there are wars, when there is a bad economy, when there are huge challenges facing this country, whether they want to chase a narrow political agenda," Dunn said.

Substitute "Obama administration" for "mainstream media" in Dunn's quote and you have the answer to the recent poll numbers.

Not that Dunn would ever figure that out.

The hubris! And stupidity! The mainstream media may be in the tank for Obama but they don't want everybody to know they're in the tank for him. Now they have to push back.

Paul Zrimsek said...

The best way to tell Mencken from Ace is to ask their opinion of Sarah Palin.

Mencken: "Some brummagem harpy from the cow states."
Ace: "I'd hit it."

edutcher said...

I repeats and I says again, don't pick a fight with anybody that buys ink by the barrel.

Pogo said...

CNN, MSNBC, ABC, and the rest of the Democratic Party networks just need to hang on long enough to get permanent government approval and subsidization, just like NPR.

Then we'll have 5 or 6 little Pravdas, each trying to shine Obama's knob better than the others.

Anderson Copper can then demonstrate real teabagging and other useful submissive poses for the supine press.

Kirby Olson said...

I like Fox and have been amused by this kerfuffle.

Hannity has gotten a bit more belligerent but he's well to the right of the Republicans. He's a true paleo-conservative.

It's just one more way in which Obama doesn't really like diversity.

Or tolerance.

Crazy like a Fox.

Alex said...

Faux News, heh heh.

Bissage said...

Shiver me timbers, matey, there be barancles clinging to the poop deck, aarrrrr!

Cedarford said...

"Alex said...
Faux News, heh heh."

Even calling it "Faux news" is stupid and elitest.
""Faux"? you mean you didn't attend prep school and learn clever French bon mots? Never were told of the danger of buying faux Gucci or Louis Vitton?
No wonder our dismissive "Faux News" is lost on you pedestrian middle class sorts.."

William said...

Margaret Hoover is on Fox News. She is very appealing and the great granddaughter of Herbert Hoover. It seems very wrong, depraved even, to be attracted to the great granddaughter of Herbert Hoover, but there you have it.....That's the secret strength of Fox. Fox news is foxy. They don't discriminate against gorgeous women. I'm glad Andrea Mitchell has found a fulfilling career, but, if she's so smart, let her write books. She's taking up space that belongs to younger, prettier women. I bet if Carrie Prejean were given her spot on MSNBC, there would be a ratings surge in that time spot.

avwh said...

One of my left-wing friends INSISTS none of the MSM can be lefties, "because all corporations are by definition conservative; they can't be left-wing if they have a profit motive".

He hasn't checked the stock prices or balance sheets of the New York Times, Washington Post, et al lately, obviously - most of those "in the tank" for Obama gave up the profit motive awhile ago.

Rene said...

@ William

I so glad to see another guy who considers Margaret Hoover to be hi-octane boner fuel.

I have a fantasy about Margaret Hoover that involves 4 in. heels, a black leather bustier, and a bondage ball.

God only knows what she'd wear....

WV: crumsist -- the existential substrate of crumbs

Photog714 said...

What does the abbreviation "WV" mean? I see it used here often. Don't have a clue.

XWL said...

"Jolly Roger Ailes" sounds like the perfect Halloween costume to scare your liberal friends.

Dust Bunny Queen said...

What does the abbreviation "WV" mean? I see it used here often. Don't have a clue.

Verification Word: that thingy you have to type in to confirm you aren't a spambot or hack program

AJ Lynch said...

Margaret Hoover is on Fox News for about 5 minutes a week. So you guys just caused a bunch of the commenters here to go and google for her pic.

kentuckyliz said...

Carrie Prejean delivering the news while sashaying around in a white bikini and high heels.

WV swoods
Swoon woods. There are a bunch in this room. Fellas, chill out.

knox said...

I'm convinced that if Red Eye were on any other network, Greg Gutfeld would be a household name. It amuses me how Entertainment Weekly, Iabsolutely refuses to acknowledge its existence. Too busy lovin' on Jon Stewart to notice, I guess.

Interestingly, Red Eye is now some nights getting more viewers in their demo at 3 a.m. than some of CNN's primetime shows.

XWL said...

Speaking of Margaret Hoover photos, I nominate this one, posted on Flickr by Kristina Hernandez, as the top one.

(can't fight the appeal of fishnets)

Michael Hasenstab said...

What does the abbreviation "WV" mean? I see it used here often. Don't have a clue.

Wolksvagen

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Shanna said...

The only people that make me want to watch Fox news are Krauthammer and Brit Hume.

Even calling it "Faux news" is stupid and elitest.
""Faux"? you mean you didn't attend prep school and learn clever French bon mots? Never were told of the danger of buying faux Gucci or Louis Vitton?
No wonder our dismissive "Faux News" is lost on you pedestrian middle class sorts.."


Heh.

Shanna said...

I'm convinced that if Red Eye were on any other network, Greg Gutfeld would be a household name.

Ok, after all the talk I had to you tube red eye and that guy is pretty great. I'd rather listen to him than Hannity or Beck any day. Also, I had never seen one of those clips where some msnbc guy spent 2 minutes making ball jokes which talking tea parties and tea bagging. Wow. That is supposed to be a real network?