Saturday, July 30, 2005

"Nothing we're doing is evil."

How do you like that as a statement intended as reassuring? Does it hit you in an "I'm not a crook" way?

21 Comments:

Blogger Menlo Bob said...

Why, er...yes it sounds like admitting guilt, but who said it. Without a link what are we supposed to do but imagine the worst traits of our unspoken enemy--the Kneivel family.

7/30/05 4:53 PM  
Blogger Robert said...

It would depend on the context.

I can certainly see this being said by someone in good faith, who means that whatever they're up to might not be some selfless act of altruistic love, but it's in the morally-acceptable range.

Or it could be someone whoi's skating perilously close to the line and knows it and is trying to Clinton their position.

7/30/05 5:29 PM  
Blogger Paul said...

Sounds like something Dr. Frankenstein said to the Police Chief.
Or my tennage daughter may have said when coming in late.
As opposed to the disarming, "What did we do wrong?"

7/30/05 6:59 PM  
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7/30/05 7:10 PM  
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7/30/05 7:16 PM  
Blogger Ann Althouse said...

Myron: That's an old story, which I blogged about back in January. Read the update on my post: the story isn't all it looks like from the article you read.

7/30/05 7:23 PM  
Blogger DirtCrashr said...

Google is dedicated to not doing evil, but it's a kind of a weird, contrapositive thing to declaim against what you're not doing as opposed to what you are, and sort of begs the question, what the hell are you doing?

7/30/05 7:35 PM  
Blogger purple_kangaroo said...

Kind of like "C'mon, you can trust me."

7/30/05 7:45 PM  
Blogger Richard said...

I don't think it sounds particularly bad, no. This would sound worse: "There is no evidence that anything we're doing is evil."

7/30/05 8:42 PM  
Blogger nk said...

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7/30/05 9:17 PM  
Blogger Drethelin said...

I think it could work in the context of a speech against calling things evil. Ie, nothing the republicans are doing is "evil" any more than the democrats trying to do the same things (Ie win the election/whatever) is "evil". Calling either side evil is generally unconvincing to anyone but the convinced.

7/30/05 10:21 PM  
Blogger John Jenkins said...

Is this just a general question, or did the statement come up in a particular context. By itself, if it were intended to reassure someone having a crisis of conscience, then I suppose it might be meaningful. Then again, the class of not evil actions is not coextensive with the class of good actions so someone who wanted to do good might not be reassured.

7/30/05 10:38 PM  
Blogger Ann Althouse said...

John: Yeah, it actually came up in a context, but I'm not going to reveal what it was.

7/30/05 10:50 PM  
Blogger Ann Althouse said...

What I notice most about the statement is what a low standard the speaker is setting for himself. Someone could treat you pretty badly and still honestly say it wasn't evil.

7/30/05 11:12 PM  
Blogger BULLSEYE said...

The way I see it, this could be anywhere from truly enlightening to completely pointless and stupid.

7/30/05 11:16 PM  
Blogger John Jenkins said...

That opens up a whole new issue, what is evil? Does it require malice, or is it related to consequences, or both? It may not be that low a standard at all.

Some moral systems have only required and prohibited actions. In such a system, the statement could be taken to mean none of what we are doing is prohibited.

Of course, other moral systems have morally required actions, morally permissible actions, and morally impermissible actions. In that case, the speaker is only curtailing one class of actions, the morally impermissible.

By definition, morally permissible is not coextensive with morally required and if morally required is good, then morally permissible is neither good nor evil, but I hesitate as to how I might classify it (neutral perhaps?).

7/30/05 11:27 PM  
Blogger Pseudo-intellectual lunatic said...

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7/30/05 11:38 PM  
Blogger Daryl Herbert said...

Nothing myron is doing is evil.

7/31/05 1:56 AM  
Blogger Tristram said...

It does depend on context.

From a Christian perspective, this would in fact be a remarkable statement, as we believe only 1 person has ever managed that feat.

So this braggadicio strikes kind of hollow. And since lying / misrepresenting fact is evil, they seem to be losing credibilty faster and faster.

7/31/05 1:35 PM  
Blogger Ann Althouse said...

Tristram: You know who "they" are?

7/31/05 2:05 PM  
Blogger Ann Althouse said...

Or presumably, you mean "they" are the people who say things like this, and the statement already undermines the credibility of the speaker.

7/31/05 2:06 PM  

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