1. It's about to start. I'll update this post as we go.
2. Dr. Christine Blasey Ford has taken her seat. She's nervously looking around, getting patted on the back. She's wearing a dark blue jacket over a dark blue top and has her hair done in a way that allows it to fall over her face and to need to be pushed back. Senator Grassley begins by apologizing to both Blasey and Kavanaugh for the incivility to which both have been subjected. He says he intends to preserve civility in the hearing and to make it "comfortable" for both witnesses.
3. Grassley criticizes Democrats for sitting on the allegations, allowing them to leak out belatedly, and failing to resolve matters in a bipartisan way. Democrats, he says, are to blame for the pain that "Dr. Ford" has suffered in recent days. He praises himself for doing he could to accommodate her. (I put "Dr. Ford" in quotes to indicate that's what she is being called here. I had switched to calling her "Blasey" after reading in the NYT that she preferred that name. From here on, I'll write "Dr. Ford" without quotes.)
4. Dianne Feinstein: "She wanted it confidential, and I held it confidential, up to a point..."
5. Feinstein casts an aspersion on Grassley: He didn't introduce Dr. Ford. Grassley, angered, interrupts to say that he didn't forget to introduce her. He was going to introduce her at the point when he was inviting her to begin speaking.
6. Still waiting for Feinstein to finish reading her intro statement. Dr. Ford seems to be struggling to keep her composure. After Feinstein, I presume we will hear Dr. Ford read this statement, already released to the press.
7. "I am here today not because I want to be. I am terrified...." she begins, in a creaky voice.
8. Sorry, but I got an hour and a half behind. Will resume.
9. Now, I've watched the entire opening statement by Dr. Ford. She seemed very credible to me. Though she was reading, she seemed to be reliving a real, traumatic experience. It's hard to imagine that she could be infusing her speech with that kind of emotion phonily. Even an excellent actress would have difficulty affecting that kind of emotion.
10. Rachel Mitchell, the prosecutor brought in to ask questions for the Senators, receives 5 minutes of time from Senator Grassley. Mitchell's use of the time is awkward, because she begin with documents that Ford must read and comment on, and Ford takes her time and makes small corrections to the documents. Grassley interrupts to say his time is up, and shifts the proceedings forward to the next Senator, Dianne Feinstein,
11. Feinstein takes her turn and focuses on the difficulties Ford experienced as her name became known. This material bolsters Ford's credibility, especially to the extent that it seems that Ford knew how painful this exposure would be before she decided to go public. Feinstein's time runs out quickly and Mitchell gets another 5 minutes to continue where she left off.
12. Mitchell's approach enables Ford, just by being careful, to slow everything down. The time will run out. The day will end. Maybe Kavanaugh supporters wanted it to play out like that, but Ford is a credible person, and I think the Republicans chosen approach, including the use of Mitchell, will backfire on them, and Kavanaugh will not be confirmed. I'm saying this at 11:06 ET in my recording, that is, an hour before I'm writing this update.
13. At 11:13 ET, Ford speaks of the "indelible" memory of Kavanaugh and Judge laughing — "having fun at my expense." "I was underneath one of them, while the 2 laughed, 2 friends having a really good time with one another."
14. At 11:56 ET, during the questioning by Senator Whitehouse, I exclaim aloud: "The Democrats are winning by a lot here." Whitehouse is talking about the lack of an investigation.
15. Grassley gets angry and yells — about why there is no new investigation — but it feels so wrong that he's yelling in the presence of Dr. Ford. She's the allegedly traumatized victim — don't yell around her! The Republicans are either too bland — operating through Mitchell — or irksomely angry — through Grassley. Do they know how badly they are losing right now? I wonder how Brett Kavanaugh is doing.
16. I'm skipping ahead, looking to see if Kavanaugh's testimony has begun. It has not. I talk with Meade for a while about what Kavanaugh might say if he were asked if he is 100% certain that Ford is wrong when she says she's 100% certain that Brett Kavanaugh did what she remembers. Here's what I imagined Kavanaugh saying: I cannot be 100% certain. I know that I drank far too much on some occasions when I was an immature teenager, and though I've said that I don't remember ever suffering alcohol-induced amnesia, I cannot know for an absolute certainty that it never happened. Watching Dr. Ford testify has been a horrific experience for me. What if there is a blank, dark spot in my memory where drunken young Brett Kavanaugh did what Dr. Ford describes? I pray to God that's not true, but I cannot say 100% that it's not true, and if it is, I am so terribly sorry. I beg Dr. Ford's forgiveness. I hope for God's forgiveness. I hope that my life's work as a sober adult makes up for what I may have done all those years ago. I still believe I have devoted and useful service to give to my country, and I humbly submit myself to your vote, Senators. And I thank all of you for considering my case, and I want Dr. Ford to know that my heart goes out to her, and my heart goes out to every victim of sexual assault. Thank you.
17. I picture Trump watching the hearings with Ivanka. Somehow I imagine Ivanka reacting like me. I wonder what they are saying to each other. Remember that Trump said at his press conference yesterday that he would watch and judge Dr. Ford for himself, that he had an open mind about it, and he could "believe anything."
18. I've been listening to Kavanaugh for a long time without stopping to write anything. Let me quickly say that I'm finding his opening statement extremely powerful and persuasive.
19. It was a long day! Let me try to wrap up this post. I thought Kavanaugh did really well in his written statement, expressing strong outrage and real emotion. In the questioning, this demeanor sometimes felt too strong. He interrupted and shouted back and seemed to show some hate and contempt for some of the Senators. He said more than once that his family had been "destroyed," and yet his wife is his "rock." The rock is not destroyed.
20. This was the ultimate he said/she said. Both were tremendously strong and they told diametrically opposed stories. If I had to decide, I would not go by who's more likely to be telling the truth, but how everything we've heard weighs on the question whether or not to confirm. In view of everything we know about Kavanaugh, does he deserve confirmation even with the degree of doubt we have about something terrible he might have done when he was 17 (and a couple of other, much weaker allegations)? I suspect most people will end up in the same position they had on him anyway, because it's a matter of weighing. But when I think about how BK and CBF could be so far apart, I have 3 explanations: 1. BK has some alcohol blackout holes in his memory, and what CBF remembers is in one of them, 2. CBF has a false memory and really believes it (caused by some genuine trauma), 3. BK has no route but forward, and he knows he did it, but feels entitled to what he's worked all his life to attain. Since there's no way back to his old life, he must force his way through this obstacle. And he's barreling ahead to save his life and save his family. Cornered, he had to fight like hell, and that includes lying.
September 27, 2018
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«Oldest ‹Older 1001 – 1200 of 1813 Newer› Newest»I can't wait for Inga to tell us why Bob Beckel's ex-wife and lifetime dem is lying to protect Kavanaugh.
It ought to be good.
DiFi does NOT apologize. What a creep.
DiFi on the FBI claim again.
He brings up the delay in the hearings. Good reply. She is giving him the opening.
Not good strategy.
FBI again.
What the fuck are they going to find out. Does DI Fi think they beat confessions out of suspects?
I think Kavanaugh is extremely qualified and I think the accusations are obviously and patently bullshit. If Kavanaugh responded the way Althouse suggests ("I can't be sure I didn't try to rape her, I'm so sorry!") I would consider him an utter pathetic cretin responsible for hundreds of assured future character assassinations and would crawl on broken glass to vote against him if I could. Althouse's advice isn't just cringe inducing, it's utterly despicable.
CBF's attorneys in the background - dropped their heads when Kavanaugh stated 'we live in a country where the presumption of innocence is foundational to our legal system" - maybe they recalled that from some class they were required to take in law school and realized they were acting in direct opposition to that principle - while doing their "job"?
I would love to believe that, but Democrats have shown that there is only one principle that they hold dear - power.
Not honesty.
Not professional ethics.
Not common decency.
Not common sense.
I could go on, but I need to get back to the hearing.
He honestly doesn’t believe he did this
That shows that he is credible.
"Reps using same prosecutor
Dare they not lob softballs and thank K over and over?"
Doing that would undermine the work Mitchell did in the first session. You might not like it, but it is the fair and right thing to do for the two testifying today that they face the same questioner.
God, Feinstein looks like a lich!
Qwinn: "I think Kavanaugh is extremely qualified and I think the accusations are obviously and patently bullshit."
That's what makes it so titillating to the lefties. The possibility of destroying an innocent party is so very very exciting for them.
"Matthew Sablan said...
"Um no. He believes he didn’t do it because he was blackout drunk when he did it."
-- Based on what proof?"
Proof, no proof! But our resident dullard and lying skankwhore Inga has plenty of experience with blankout drunk encounters as I'm sure most men would require that condition.
Seeing Red said...And the goal posts move again. I thought men were supposed to cry? It shows their sensitivity.
--
Forget goalposts. It's a circle of barbed wire fence.
Feinstein took awhile to get that Kavanaugh was saying that the claims are "wrong."
Qwinn: "I think Kavanaugh is extremely qualified and I think the accusations are obviously and patently bullshit."
That's what makes it so titillating to the lefties. The possibility of destroying an innocent party is so very very exciting for them.
Difi knows how to appear to "feel his pain"
She wants to "have the evidence looked at"
"Swetnik's claims are a farce."
"I still like beer." -- STRING HIM UP.
He's got to watch the PTSD if he wants to be a judge, though. Television magnifies that shit. He's about to break the screen. Bearing down on unhinged by the experience. That would be devastating.
Now we are learning about the polygraph guy.
Works for Ford's lawyers.
Feinstein stumbling.
Sweet.
What did the FBI find in the Clarence Thomas case? That Anita Hill was telling the truth? That Clarence Thomas was telling the truth? If so, why is it still in dispute?
Seeing Red: "And the goal posts move again. I thought men were supposed to cry? It shows their sensitivity."
Dude, that was yesterday.
History began anew this morning for Inga and her pals.
Inga...Allie Oop said...
He’s a mess, this is awful. They should stop this now, let the poor man keep some dignity. He honestly doesn’t believe he did this. So so so sad
Maybe that's because he didn't. Have you considered that? Oh, no, of course not! Women never lie. Women never suffer false 'recovered' memories.
Maybe Ford has a false memory. Or maybe she trumped up an uncomfortable, but minor event in her life to win an argument about a 2nd front door.
She has no corroborating evidence of this party, let alone an attack. No evidence. Nothing. Her own friend says the party didn't happen and that she, Keyser, never met the man. Ford's answer to this denial is that her friend is cray cray. Only Ford knows the truth - all her own witnesses are liars or crazy.
Kavanaugh will carve up Booker, Harris, Whitehouse; all of them.
For better or worse, I feel like we're witnessing a historic moment in the Great Culture War. It's like we're at some weird, unpleasent inflection point that people will be talking about for generations. It's like we're collectively asking "Do facts matter over feelings?" and "What does 'credible' mean?" and "Will winning at all costs cost everything?".
While I don't like having to live through such a culturally chaotic time period with everybody picking a side and digging in, it still beats the hell out of living through a period of actual real privation, war, and disease. I'll take hurled insults online over hurled bombs on the street any day. Of course many people believe it won't be long before we really have the latter.
Oh jebus. Feinstein looks like shit as Kavanaugh responds. This is their "A" team?
Wow he destroyed DiFi. She gave up before he chopped her into bits and eaten her.
Now the treasonous cunt who kept this allegation secret for 2 months is wondering why Kavanagh doesn't want another FBI strip search.
Crack: "He's got to watch the PTSD if he wants to be a judge, though"
Perhaps, perhaps, he is fully aware of and has fully internalized and is fully qualified in the art of The Macho Response.
I've had two laughs this whole thread.
Thanks Crack.
Actually, Ford described a gathering of an unknown number of people somewhere around Maryland, maybe in the summer of the early 1980s.
Lily: "She has no corroborating evidence of this party, let alone an attack. No evidence. Nothing."
That's the beauty of it all.
Show Trial.
Well, this is interesting.
Governments and societies can survive dirty, corrupt and even murderous politics. They can be to some degree totalitarian. They can even, largely, survive civil wars.
But this is bizarre beyond precedent.
One part of me wants to say "total social collapse", and that seems correct, up to a point, which is that this affects, so far, a tiny subset of the elite. But its that elite that decides the big things, across all the main parts of the society and economy, to an excessive degree indeed. And regardless of what people may assume, they are not easy to replace.
So where do you go? You need an elite, but you have an extremely dysfunctional one, a corrupt one, and a silly one. Worse in many ways than the end-state of the Han and Tang and Ming dynasties, brought down by the machinations of eunuchs. At least in China, whatever its troubles, there was always a provincial elite still immune to most of the depravity of the capital.
Did this prosecutor ask these same questions of Ford? Did I miss that?
Um no. He believes he didn’t do it because he was blackout drunk when he did it.
And Emmett Till should have kept his hands to himself.
he got all happy when asked 'what is too many beers'
Good grief, he has no business on the Supreme Court. He’s coming across as an angry, overly emotional man who is feeling sorry for himself in front of millions of people. He needs to stop for his own sake, he’s losing any dignity he has left.
His emphasis on drinking beer, lots of beer is telling the tale.
Inga: You don't get to negate people's emotions. He's angry, and rightly so.
Just imagine asking these kinds of questions at Justice Kagan's confirmation hearing? Did you ever grind your genitals against someone else? Who was it?
Inga: "Good grief, he has no business on the Supreme Court. He’s coming across as an angry, overly emotional man who is feeling sorry for himself in front of millions of people."
LOL
Inga getting desperate.
She'll be reaching for the Supreme Court 25th Amendment soon.....
Oh jebus. Feinstein looks like shit as Kavanaugh responds. This is their "A" team?
The Democrats... they're not sending their best. They are sending liars, frauds and hypocrites. And some, I assume are good people.
Inga: "His emphasis on drinking beer, lots of beer is telling the tale."
Strange, Bill Clinton's cigar "habit" was less dispositive to the left......
For some strange, unknown reason.......
"Althouse's advice isn't just cringe inducing, it's utterly despicable."
Of course. And in any remotely similar situation, she'd call BS herself.
Not now. The bad faith runs deep.
He honestly didn't do this.
FIFY
Oh thank God! Poor man.
I want to see his calendar entry for today.
I used to deeply respect Ms. Althouse, but her willingness to give credence to obviously reshearsed and lawyerly crafted “remembrance” of these non-events, by frankly a lefty alcoholic slut whose own family will not defend, and that every named person denies the event happened, has destroyed that.
It is obvious now she is just another female, lefty, #metoo crank.
his own lawyer is going to cross examine him on the calendars!
Over 1030 comments (perhaps over 1050 by the time I click on the “Post” icon). Does anyone know whether this is a record.
The 'too many' beers question is tough. Because the answer is any more than 2.
20 seconds till the dems/left shift to Kavanaugh Lifts weights---> 'roid Rage!!
tearful anger subsides as he sounds weary
You can sprint only so far
break! recharge?
He sounds (it is back on) righteously angry.
So, here's a question. Men keep being told: show more emotion! Then, Kavanaugh does, and we're being told: What a wimp! He doesn't DESERVE sympathy OR belief.
Yeah. Sorry; the reason men think it is best to not show emotion and teach young boys not to is because *we see how men who show emotion are treated by the very people telling them to show it.*
I was right!
John Pickering: "his own lawyer is going to cross examine him on the calendars!"
People who have nothing to hide generally have....nothing to hide.
What a pleasant change from princess I jes can't remember nuttin!!
Christ, this has got me pacing the room. This is so wrong, I am so angry.
Shorter Inga:
"He should have just laid back and enjoyed it."
Unknown: "You can sprint only so far
break! recharge?"
Indeed.
Time to slam a Diet Mtn Dew.
He's not feeling sorry for himself. He's talking about this or that unexpected kindness he was shown by somebody else.
iowan2: "Christ, this has got me pacing the room. This is so wrong, I am so angry."
Which is why the lefties are panicking and already shifting their arguments.
Sound familiar?
Leahy's laughing.
That's how serious he thinks this farce is.
So why didn't Ford tell her close friend - Leland Keyser - that she (Leland) needed to get out of the house because the boys tried to rape her?
Ford runs out of house to escape the attack? And Leland doesn't see her? And Ford leaves her close friend behind? Doesn't tell her that the boys are not to be trusted?
That makes no sense to me.
Now the MSM JournOlisters are on to sling some mud and cloud the water with some concern trolling and squid ink slanders. Fucking scumbag Democrat party members.
Did you see how fast DiFi bailed out on her time?
She cut her losses quickly as she is the most compromised. I'm surprised DiFi's Chinese handlers didn't prepare her more effectively.
Inga...Allie Oop said...
Oh thank God! Poor man.
He doesn't need your false sympathy.
At least in China, whatever its troubles, there was always a provincial elite still immune to most of the depravity of the capital.
We still have one but the problem for Democrats is that they are all Republicans.
Obama wiped out their farm team.
@Althouse: "I'm finding his opening statement extremely powerful and persuasive."
Thank you. It means a lot.
And I mean that sincerely.
Steve M. Galbraith: "So why didn't Ford tell her close friend - Leland Keyser - that she (Leland) needed to get out of the house because the boys tried to rape her?"
Because its all obviously a lie.
Another lefty lie.
Another in an endless stream of lies.
Next we'll be hearing about Macedonian troll farms turning public opinion against the hapless "Dr" Ford.
That's what makes it so titillating to the lefties. The possibility of destroying an innocent party is so very very exciting for them.
I don't think they're excited because they are destroying someone they believe is innocent. They are excited because there is no support for Ford's accusations. Her own witnesses refuted her. If she wins anyway they know they have a weapon to use against literally anyone. All they need is someone who believes in By Any Means Necessary and since they create that mindset in their Title IX cult factories the chances are good everyone who comes forward from this point on will have at least one acquaintance willing to say anything.
They've spent decades working for exactly this weapon.
I was interested to see your reaction to Christine Blasey Ford. My prejudice on this whole business is that when it looked like Kavanaugh would be confirmed, they came up with a hit job, similar with what didn't work when Anita Hill tried the gambit. I remember from 2016, during the campaign, when Bill Clinton said that they had stuff that would turn people off, and make Donald Trump look worse than Bill Cosby. It didn't work, partly because Bill Clinton was involved.
I initially read that Christine Blasey Ford had a problem, in that she had nothing specific about the supposed incident. You make it sound like she has been prepared to deliver her testimony in a compelling way (good enough to convince you). I think that people like you are their target audience, because you are at least nominally a Democrat.
Now, the story about ten parties where young women were drugged and gang-raped shows that they have "jumped the shark".
It would never happen, but I would like to see everyone involved, including Brett Kavanaugh given a polygraph examination. People criticize them, but I think it would pretty quickly sort things out. I had a polygraph examination after having a background investigation back to childhood for a clearance 37 years ago, and I have a good deal of confidence in the process.
First caller to CSPAN doesn't believe Ford.
I'll only start to worry when the garbage truck doesn't swing by on Thursday morning.
He nailed that shit. In every way, he brought the goods - factual, emotional, sexual - making us see him as a human being who's devoted himself to the best in white folks (This is a white-on-white crime). If he can temper his fury, he's earned his spot on the SC, as far as I'm concerned. I started out asking for standards and he met them.
I've missed his testimony, darnit! I was at lunch.
How'd Brett do? I hope he called out these lying and enabling Democrats.
In his press conference yesterday - Trump said Schumer and the cons artists are ALL laughing at this. All laughing at what they are doing. All laughing at the American people.
I'd be thinking of caving in Durbin's skull about now. I suspect there would be consequences.
He's not feeling sorry for himself. He’s talking about this or that unexpected kindness he was shown by somebody else. -rhhardin
Like Tiger when he won the Tour Championship on Sunday.
He does seem like the jock
He still has to face Leahy and Durbin, who may not be as non-confrontational as granny Difi
Will they pull a Ted K
"In Kavanaugh's America men can drink to excess and rub their genitals wherever they please"?
Bay Area Guy: "I've missed his testimony, darnit! I was at lunch.
How'd Brett do?"
Brett blew them out of the water and he forced Feinstein to bail out on her 5 minutes. She was obviously out of sorts and wanted no more part of this.
Because its all obviously a lie.
It would have been, y'know, a good idea for the prosecutor/questioner to ask her these things.
It's a poor analogy since I'm a male but if I was somewhere with a close friend and had to escape danger or a threat I'm getting my friend out of there too. At least warning him of the danger and telling him why I'm leaving.
The fact that she didn't tell her closest friend of this attack and that she too would be in danger tells us something.
My ex HATES Trump and she doesn’t believe Ford.
He still has to face Leahy and Durbin
Bwhahahahahah!
Trump is probably fist pumping right now.
Trump loves fighters and Kavanaugh shoving back into Feinsteins corruptocrat face is going to lead to Trump tweeting strongly in his favor when this is complete.
Darrell said...
What did the FBI find in the Clarence Thomas case? That Anita Hill was telling the truth? That Clarence Thomas was telling the truth? If so, why is it still in dispute?
Maybe the best comment of the week.
The other problem here is that the cultural split is oceans wide, and bottomless.
There is no compatible brain that can survive in the gap between them.
To say you aren't a single people is trite, but absolutely true.
You need courts and a legal system for two peoples at least. It is impossible to conceive of a single court and a single law that would not perpetually enrage one people or the other. And over nearly anything.
I, personally, would rather let the Chinese adjudicate my problems with their system and their law, whatever their corruption and despotism, than to submit it to the alien insanity of one side of your politics.
"Did you see how fast DiFi bailed out on her time?"
-- It is rare for a Senator to willfully choose to stop talking.
David Begley said...
Kavanaugh will carve up Booker, Harris, Whitehouse; all of them.
I hope so! None of those dirtbags is going to vote for him anyway. He's crossed the Rubicon by coming out with righteous indignation at what the Democrats have done. No harm in finishing the job.
Kavanaugh has reacted exactly how any man wrongly accussed of a sex crime would react. Particularly since everything he has ever worked on, his reputation, honor and family have been irrevocably tarnished by these monsters. The liberals have another think coming if they think we will ever forget this when he is confirmed. They just can't wink like Harry Reid did when he was called out for lying about Romney not paying taxes and saying "it worked". Fuck them. May they all die in a fire.
Crack hearts Kavanaugh!
Lefty scum on MSNBC are switching it up and claiming Kavanaugh is a black out drunk alcoholic.
Forget the fact the FBI are too stupid to pickup on that little tidbit
They are talking about anything but the testimony so far
I cant go out in public until tomorrow, or someone is going to suffer my rage.
Brett blew them out of the water and he forced Feinstein to bail out on her 5 minutes. She was obviously out of sorts and wanted no more part of this.
A sign that Feinstein has a small, residual conscience? Wow!
Update from Althouse's front page:
18. I've been listening to Kavanaugh for a long time without stopping to write anything. Let me quickly say that I'm finding his opening statement extremely powerful and persuasive.
Let's cut her some slack, eh?
Unknown: "He still has to face Leahy and Durbin, who may not be as non-confrontational as granny Difi"
I'm not even going to bother with the requisite LLR Chuck subreference here.
Durbin and Leahy will spend their entire time trying to force Kavanaugh to "see things from Ford's point of view".
Kavanaugh should keep turning it all back to his own family and how they have suffered under this pack of lefty/dem lies.
OMG. Mara Gray of the NYT Editorial Board [appearing on MSNBC] just suggested that Kavanaugh may be an alcoholic to the extent that he really can't remember this - or he's lying...
There are truly two realities and our country is divided in both.
Bay Area Guy: "Crack hearts Kavanaugh!"
I think Crack appreciates the Full Spectrum Macho Response.
@ Matthew
He sounds (it is back on) righteously angry.
So, here's a question. Men keep being told: show more emotion! Then, Kavanaugh does, and we're being told: What a wimp! He doesn't DESERVE sympathy OR belief.
Yeah. Sorry; the reason men think it is best to not show emotion and teach young boys not to is because *we see how men who show emotion are treated by the very people telling them to show it.*
Expecting loyal power-mongering leftists to be consistent in their rules for others will leave you disappointed every time.
Chuck Todd blames Democrats.
NBC’s Chuck Todd said that Republicans’ representative at the Senate Judiciary hearing Rachel Mitchell had “done a great exposing Democrats playing games,” and that “Dr. [Christine Blasey] Ford was a victim of the Democrats playing politics,” on Thursday after the committee took its second break.
“She’s done a great job of exposing the Democrats of playing games,” Todd said of Mitchell. “I think that she’s made a better case explaining how Democrats sat on this.”
Ford is testifying before the Senate Judiciary Committee about her allegations that Supreme Court nominee Judge Brett Kavanaugh attempted to sexually assault her in the 1980s.
“It’s almost as if Dr. Ford was a victim of the Democrats playing politics,” Todd added.
DiFi's delay is hurting the Democrats.
“I think that she’s made a better case explaining how Democrats sat on this.”
Didn’t the WaPo sit on this for two months, the same way they did the charges against that Alabama Senator?
Who knew that “Democracy dies in darkness” was a credo, and a motto, not a warning.
OMG. Mara Gray of the NYT Editorial Board [appearing on MSNBC] just suggested that Kavanaugh may be an alcoholic to the extent that he really can't remember this
Inga got the memo even faster.
Kavanaugh just won the first round. Real tears, even obvious and un-fake-able lip quivers! His relating of one of his daughter’s remark about “praying for the woman” was worth its weight in gold. “Wisdom” from a ten-year old, indeed. And calling out Feinstein to boot … If this keeps up the Dems are going to be destroyed by the tearful and outraged Kavanaugh.
Difi put him in this spot. She set up Ford in every way and decided how to play the card.
If he was Trump level fighter
he would have made the TV folks know she "caused all this".
Let just say for the sake of argument that you woke up the next day after a blackout and a week later someone claimed that you ran around a party that night naked shaking your tits in everyone's face. Everybody else there says it never happened, and your diary says you weren't even in town. You've never done this before, and everybody says you never did anything like that, and that you are always very modest. Now imagine your accuser waited 36 years to bring it up when you were applying for a job they would do almost anything to keep you from getting.
"Blogger Static Ping said...
I am going to say this again. It is something I said when this first came to light. A person who claims a horrible crime happened to her but cannot tell you where; cannot tell you when to the point that she is guessing on the year; cannot tell you how she got there; cannot tell you how she got home; cannot produce a single witness and, for that matter, is actively contradicted by the witnesses she claims will support her story; waits until 30+ years later to tell anyone; has obvious psychiatric problems, and has obvious political reasons to desire a certain conclusion... that is not a credible person.
Dr. Ford is pretty much the parody version of a non-credible person."
I simply can't figure this out. To me she is not credible and watching her doesn't make her more credible. And I wonder if she will seem more credible if people simply see a few clips. Will people stay with the facts as known (see above) if they don't watch the hearings all the way through? Watching the hearings evidently addles people - they don't hear the truth well-presented so they give up. But the truth is still out there even if it wasn't on television. And people will hold by it no matter what. Vote Kavanaugh in. Basically Ford is not credible and Kavanaugh is.
Blogger buwaya said...
I, personally, would rather let the Chinese adjudicate my problems with their system and their law, whatever their corruption and despotism, than to submit it to the alien insanity of one side of your politics
It's probably available to you.
OMG. Mara Gray of the NYT Editorial Board [appearing on MSNBC] just suggested that Kavanaugh may be an alcoholic to the extent that he really can’t remember this - or he's lying...
That would be fine if the “newspaper of record” also mentioned issues with false memories that come up in therapy.
Crack hearts Kavanaugh!
Drago hearts Crack!
Chuck hearts Flake!
Althouse hearts Bob Dylan!
It's a sordid mess of emotions:)
I rarely got emotionally wrought when my father punished me- if I did it, I would protest a some to see if I could talk him out of it- lie in other words or make excuses, but then accept the punishment, which was a lashing with a belt. The only time I got really vehement and lashed out with really angry words was the one and only time my father actually had the wrong culprit which had been my first cousin, as I learned later when he, the cousin, sheepishly apologized to me. I was angry at my father for months afterwards, but eventually let it go because I did understand that he couldn't know I was innocent, and the truth was I had been regularly found guilty correctly.
The reason I didn't like Kavanaugh's Fox interview was because I was expecting some real fury, but I see that Kavanaugh wanted to reserve that fury for the proper target, which is the minority party in the Senate.
I'm pretty sure he is wrong about the drinking age. Not a huge matter, but worth looking at.
Both Kavanaugh and Ford seem credible to me. There really should be a thorough investigation, preferably by law enforcement outside the media. Ordinary good police work is to compare witness stories without the witnesses knowing the details of what other witnesses claiming to have witnessed the same thing have stated, so that the details may be compared before lies can be aligned, etc.
I texted my daughter a while back that I hope BK does not take Althouse's advice and/or prediction (I'm not 100% sure if the mea culpa scripted by Ann was intended as advice versus a prediction). I've always thought the "have you no shame" approach would be stronger and the only one that would really work. He has to make this about Feinstein and Harris not Ford.
> Durbin and Leahy will spend their entire time trying to force Kavanaugh to "see things from Ford's point of view".
Never underestimate the enemy...
They are in the evil party, not the stupid party
Chuck Todd said that?
Are pigs flying?
If he drank as much as people say, and he blacked out, people around him would know it, because it doesn’t happen once. Once it starts happening, it keeps happening.
Leahy going back to FBI and Kavanaugh is having none of it.
Althouse sez: "She's the allegedly traumatized victim — don't yell around her!"
Ok, is there *anyone* left who thinks the 19th Amendment wasn't a Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad idea?
Done painting--is this worth watching, or is Kav cooked?
Miegs - the FBI has no jurisdiction and there have already been 6 other investigations. She has no one who can verify her accounts. They have been asked.
@Steven Meigs, Bethesda abuts the District of Columbia, which did not raise its drinking age to 21 until 1986. Some seniors would be 18.
He's not answering Leahey's questions. Two yes or no questions, so far. Now three.
Althouse sez: "She's the allegedly traumatized victim — don't yell around her!"
What if we give her a fainting couch?
Michael K: "Leahy going back to FBI and Kavanaugh is having none of it."
Good for Kavanaugh.
Fight those bastards every step of the way.
What the left need is more time to find people willing to lie.
Leahy going back the yearbook matter.
Yearbooks are not written by the people described.
Fortunately, the guy who wrote my medical school yearbook liked me.
Piece of shit Pat Leahy playing the role of Mr. Potter from It's A Wonderful Life. Except it's real life and Leahy is a real true piece of shit.
If he drank as much as people say, and he blacked out, people around him would know it, because it doesn’t happen once. Once it starts happening, it keeps happening.
But Tim, the hacks in the corporate democratic media can make it a wish-fact and send out the talking points. Wish facts are real.
Does Leahy have an oxygen tank under his desk? He looks so old and confused. And the democrats really want to make Kavanaugh responsible for what was printed in a yearbook 34 years ago? Really?
Leahy, of all people, is complaining about filibuster.
I wonder if the lefties who engineered this realize Kavanaugh is nowhere near as conservative as the next nominee will be. And that two derailed nominations in a row ain't gonna happen.
"Blogger eddie willers said...
Update from Althouse's front page:
"18. I've been listening to Kavanaugh for a long time without stopping to write anything. Let me quickly say that I'm finding his opening statement extremely powerful and persuasive."
Let's cut her some slack, eh?"
How is that any better, if she decides anything based on that? What's powerful and persuasive is the facts offered by him. Ford offered almost nothing by comparison, yet she finds them both "credible"? I'm pretty disappointed in the host, here. A legal mind should be more focussed on defending the principles that raise us above emotional self-delusion in decisions and fairness.
I think that we should appoint a special prosecutor to get to the bottom of it and send anybody who lied to prison.
David Begley said...
I want to see his calendar entry for today.
September 27, 2018
(The word DEMS with a drawing of a mushroom cloud over it)
she's crossing him on the brewskis and he's squirming
Have you stopped molesting little boys, Crack? Yes or no?
Drago said...
Unknown: "He still has to face Leahy and Durbin, who may not be as non-confrontational as granny Difi"
I'm not even going to bother with the requisite LLR Chuck subreference here.
Durbin and Leahy will spend their entire time trying to force Kavanaugh to "see things from Ford's point of view".
Kavanaugh should keep turning it all back to his own family and how they have suffered under this pack of lefty/dem lies.
Kavanaugh is going to push back this evening. Everyone is now going to find out how why Kavanaugh is the Dems' worst nightmare. Kavanaugh was smooth in his hearing, as he was trained to and as he was prepared. This is different. The real Kavanaugh is a fighter and an ideologue.
Leahy and Feinstein aren't prepared to fence with Kavanaugh. Not many on the Committee are. Durbin I worry about; and Sheldon Whitehouse too. But none of them are in Kavanaugh's league. They haven't got shit.
This is going to be good.
I also had a high school friend nicknamed "Squeak."
> If he was Trump level fighter
> he would have made the TV folks know she "caused all this".
Trump might have said
"Diane, you and I both know we could have had a beautiful, very long investigation if you had not sat on her letter till confirmation was closed. You caused everything!"
Trump has balls like watermelons.
Maybe Kave should do a political tour like Trump does. He makes it look easy.
"If he drank as much as people say, and he blacked out, people around him would know it, because it doesn’t happen once. Once it starts happening, it keeps happening."
He's kind famous around the Alcoholics Anonymous circles as first in his class. Got drunk, got alcoholic, blacked out, and fully recovered and turned his life around all in one season at 17.
This is different. The real Kavanaugh is a fighter and an ideologue.
I agree. I like him better this way. I thought he was a squish in the first hearing.
Ok, is there *anyone* left who thinks the 19th Amendment wasn't a Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad idea?
This crap is what moves the needle Kirk. Empowered Wonderwomen kicking ass one moment, in need of smelling salts for hurt feels the next.
Kavanaugh is your poster boy. Being polite, respectful, chivalrous and doing everything to maintain your rep gets you nothing. Absolutely nothing.
They will come for you 36 years later seeking revenge because the Dowager Empress of NY whose only feminist bonafides is she married a guy named Bill who was a Rhodes scholar.
When you do everything to not be a misogynist and it gets your this, you might as well be a misogynist.
Farmer said...
I wonder if the lefties who engineered this realize Kavanaugh is nowhere near as conservative as the next nominee will be. And that two derailed nominations in a row ain't gonna happen.
My guess is that he's a moderate. He's GWB's guy.
Durbin back to FBI again.
Dick Durbin is a snake.
Leahy creating perception for TV that Kav is hiding something.
Why doesn’t he want an FBI investigation?
Chuck, did you get your gin?
bagoh20 said...
He's kind famous around the Alcoholics Anonymous circles as first in his class. Got drunk, got alcoholic, blacked out, and fully recovered and turned his life around all in one season at 17.
Either that or he blacked out at 17 and just woke up.
"Everyone is now going to find out how why Kavanaugh is the Dems' worst nightmare"
Chuck: yes.
"Durbin I worry about."
Chuck, is that you?
Kidding, kidding. Who would've thought Judge K could unify the right?
Anyway, Collins I still worry about.
This is not about a court seat any more. This is about the honor of Brett Kavanaugh, and what these people have done to him, his life, his family and Dr. Ford as well. He didn;t put her in that seat. They did. Those Democrats he's looking bullets through. This is why he will be seated. For the GOP, this is not at all about Trump. It is about the Senate and the process.
I think we have seen Pickett's Charge today. We'll soon know if the line has held. The counterattack has been impressive.
Gettysburg. Agincourt. This is what comes to my mind.
Yeas, Dick Durbin, you can't prove a negative.
God, Durbin is such a dirtbag!
I wonder if the lefties who engineered this realize Kavanaugh is nowhere near as conservative as the next nominee will be.
Was.
Scales are now off his eyes.
Look at Handmaid that Alyssa Milano craning her neck to get her stupid face on camera. Guess that infomercial paycheck isn't paying the rent. Watch her to accuse someone of some #MeToo crime she can shakedown some dough.
"Are you afraid...?"
Dick Durbin is a snake.
It’s all over for him, poor man.
He believes he didn’t do it because he was blackout drunk when he did it.
Um, no. They "black out," but they do remember at least going to the party and waking up the morning after. Kavanaugh denies both.
Grassley pushed back hard.
Kavanaugh is pushing back, too. Good for him !
Now, it's about Mark Judge.
Ford made her accusation impossible to disprove. On purpose.
She doesn’t even know what year it happened.
Democrats are already running away from this.
Disgusting people.
Gee, Dick, why wasn't the Clarence Thomas FBI investigation definitive?
The FBI didn't clear anything up.
Was.
Scales are now off his eyes.
Personally, I can't wait for a challenge to Sullivan to reach SCOTUS while Kavanaugh is a justice.
"Why doesn’t he want an FBI investigation?"
-- Feinstein gave the letter to the FBI; they declined to investigate. Ask the FBI why they declined.
Gettysburg. Agincourt. This is what comes to my mind.
Riflemen would have wasted those archers.
Crack - Kind of gives snakes a bad name? Durbin is just your every day rat bastard who should have been out to pasture years ago. Damn we need term limits for Senators and Representatives.
Men keep being told: show more emotion! Then, Kavanaugh does, and we're being told: What a wimp! He doesn't DESERVE sympathy OR belief.
I learned this in the first few days of college. Among the introductory sessions there were a couple of open question fora. The ground rules were any question and/or answer was legitimate and serious and people were not supposed to criticize. It was meant as an opportunity for people to learn truths they might not otherwise hear.
So a girl I don't know asks a question and someone lets out a half-snicker (much of this was sex/dating related). The moderators blast everyone. Ten minutes later I follow up a different question because I thought the one provided left out some important elements. Some other girl tears into me seemingly out of nowhere since the issues I'm advancing aren't even my preferences, merely facts. I glance at the moderators to see them doing nothing. So I turn back to respond only to be interrupted by several other girls arguing (essentially) that responding to her attacks violated the ground rules. That was my first introduction to the hyena packs from Womens Studies.
This was a tremendous learning experience for me in part because I had been sheltered and believed the left's mantra of itself. If you don't understand progs will always "interpret" the rules to the benefit of whoever is higher in their victim hierarchy tree you don't know anything about America. This is literally the most important thing to understand about functioning in a prog institution. Facts don't matter, truth doesn't matter, rules don't matter. The only thing that matters is the narrative they have constructed. No rule, principle, or fact will ever stop them from attacking you if you contradict it in any way.
How many people commenting here knew K was teendrunk, when did they know it?
Jesus, Lindsey Graham losing his shit too. Republicans look pathetic.
Maybe that's because he didn't. Have you considered that? Oh, no, of course not! Women never lie. Women never suffer false 'recovered' memories.
You're dealing with a snarling, vicious gash who shits on the graves of dead gunshot victims in order to score political points.
Stop wasting your time.
Durbin on offense, "K can't have it both ways".
"Are you afraid of FBI?"
Graham is pissed !
Yelling at Durbin.
Now Lindsey Graham is gonna cry!
You can tell from the trolls how Kavanaugh did.
The FBI stuff is ludicrous but Kavanaugh looks terrible refusing to explain why he doesn't support it. He looks like he's hiding something.
Lindsey Graham is kicking ass.
lindsay graham is nuts: are you a gang rapist
Lindsay's going to start to cry too
Lindsey Graham - with a Bill Cosby reference!
Inga...Allie Oop said...
Why doesn’t he want an FBI investigation?
A better question would be why the Democrats do want one? Because it's to delay the process. The Dems want to delay the process with another lengthy investigation in the hopes of retaking the Senate in the November election and then being able to block any Trump nominee for the next two years. It's a cynical, nasty thing to do, manufacturing false charges against a good man. It shows just how vile and nasty the Democrats have become.
I think this is over. There is literally no way any of the Republicans vote no on confirmation.
In any case, I will watch the rest of this when I get home this evening. Good day, all.
Graham is great. Said what most people are shouting at the tv.
Bill Cosby reference. Drink!
> Lindsey Graham losing his shit too
Graham's heart grew 3 sizes the day McCain reached across the aisle to God.
Kavanaugh looks terrible refusing to explain why he doesn't support it. He looks like he's hiding something.
Nope. He knows better. Durbin was trying to play games.
Chuck said: Maybe the best comment of the week.
Chuck has been consistently on target this week. I have agreed with him multiple times.
I recommend that those of us who torment him, give him a pass for now.
There will be other opportunities.
Lindsey Graham!
Inga...Allie Oop said...
Why doesn’t he want an FBI investigation?
There have already been 6.
More importantly...
FBI Agent: What day did the event happen?
Lying bitch: sometime in the summer of 1982 or 1983.
FBI Agent: *chuckle* Where did the event happen?
Lying bitch: in someone’s house.
FBI Agent: We are done here.
There is nothing to investigate because all the witnesses claimed by the accusers have contradicted them already. If the FBI had been called in during July, they would have already dropped this case for lack of actual evidence.
11. Feinstein takes her turn and focuses on the difficulties Ford experienced as her name became known. This material bolsters Ford's credibility, especially to the extent that it seems that Ford knew how painful this exposure would be before she decided to go public. Feinstein's time runs out quickly and Mitchell gets another 5 minutes to continue where she left off.
Bullshit
She should have stopped his career cold years ago. No one would have cared.
Graham is born again hard.
"It’s all over for him, poor man."
Inga you fat old cunt, Kavanaugh is going to reigning down conservative hellfire from the Supreme Court for decades after your morbidly obese ass is in the ground. You turned a Kennedyesque squish into a firebreathing monster of conservatism who will make Thomas and Scalia look like Ginsberg.
Independents watching this are going to turn out in droves in the mid terms. What we really should be doing is making the streets run with the blood of democrats.
After this is over, Republicans are going to be calling him "brave" and "courageous" like Democrats were calling Ford at the beginning.
"He believes he didn’t do it because he was blackout drunk when he did it."
I guess you believe that the whole party blacked out, since nobody remembers it or told anyone about it. You really believe that?
Yancey Ward said...
Chuck, did you get your gin?
Yes I did get it. Flawlessly. That is, by the way, among the handful of the highest-end luxury food markets in Southeast Michigan. They handle online orders with a personal staff who greet customers by name.
To all Atlhousians; this was a bet that Yancey Ward paid off faithfully and honorably and impressively. My thanks, and hat's off, to him.
Here come the 1600s. You feminists did it to yourselves.
Lindsey effing Graham. Of all people.
You're dealing with a snarling, vicious gash who shits on the graves of dead gunshot victims in order to score political points.
Inga, right?
Why doesn’t he want an FBI investigation?
The FBI is Deep State country. I wouldn’t trust the FBI with ANYTHING regarding a Trump nominee.
Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse is talking about vomiting in high school.
Psychodelic yawn
Blowing chunks
Now, he is talking about farting. It was in the yearbook!
The fucking yearbook? Thats how low we have sunk to confirm a SCOTUS Judge? Dems have lost their minds.
Blogger Matthew Sablan said...
"Why doesn’t he want an FBI investigation?"
-- Feinstein gave the letter to the FBI; they declined to investigate. Ask the FBI why they declined.
Obvious to anyone with a soul or a shred of decency: no date and no location and no people to corroborate makes it impossible to investigate.
Whitehouse.
Going back to the yearbook. All about drinking.
Sliming the woman about "alumnius."
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