August 2, 2025

"Think of us as the 'Inglourious Basterds' of the House Democrats. We will do anything to win this."

"Trump has fundamentally changed the rules of political engagement in this country. If they attack, you attack back."


I saw the movie "Inglourious Basterds," but I don't remember what the characters did other than that they felt justified in doing it because they were fighting the Nazis, so I sought out help from Grok —  How unscrupulous and awful were the Inglourious Basterds?

The Basterds are a small, elite unit of mostly Jewish-American soldiers assembled by the U.S. military for a covert operation behind enemy lines.... Their explicit mission... is to "kill Nazis" and spread terror among German forces to demoralize them. They're not conventional soldiers; they're guerrillas who operate outside the rules of war, emphasizing psychological warfare and vengeance over strategy....
The Basterds are depicted as highly effective but morally bankrupt in their tactics—willing to employ torture, mutilation, deception, and mass killing without remorse.... 
Every Basterd is required to collect 100 Nazi scalps.... They ambush patrols, slaughter soldiers, and scalp the dead (or sometimes living) as trophies. Survivors are branded with a swastika carved into their foreheads using a knife.... 
[T]heir methods are war crimes by any real-world standard... but the film revels in this as a fantasy of empowerment against fascism. They're anti-heroes because their awfulness serves a "greater good," yet it fundamentally rejects traditional heroism, rules of engagement, or mercy....

116 comments:

Peachy said...

Democrats are more like Bas-turds.

Aggie said...

One should be careful, even circumspect, about declaring unconventional war when the other side has already been granted the official institutions of power and has public sentiment on their side.

Quick, what are the Democrat's polling numbers again?

Aggie said...

More like Vainglorious Busteds

Yancey Ward said...

Good luck producing a better gerrymander in California and Illinois. For a long time after the GOP took both legislatures in Texas the party was still badly infiltrated by people who were only pretending to be conservatives in order to win elections in deep red districts. That changed starting in the first Trump Administration. Finally, there are enough true conservatives in Texas to do gerrymandering as well as Democrats have done it throughout history.

pious agnostic said...

Wow now we're in for it. Apparently, the gloves are off!

Unlike the prior 25 years, now the Democrats will "do anything" to win.

Gosh, I hope they don't conspire with the Deep State and the media to subvert elections or something.

Peachy said...

In CA - formerly safe R seats were "won" after Dems kept counting 'votes" for several weeks.

FormerLawClerk said...

"They bring a knife, we bring a gun."

"Hit them back, twice as hard."

"Get in their face."

"We're going to punish our enemies."

"Take the gloves off."

Barack Obama fundamentally altered the rules of engagement of political debate in the United States and the Democrats seem very upset that we've accepted their terms.

We WANT this fight. They just wanted to bully as bullies do by threatening us that they're going to do stuff. We WANT to do it. And we are now doing it.

Eat it, dickheads.

Wince said...

"Blue-state Democrats face hurdles countering Texas GOP’s new election map/Democratic leaders in California, Illinois and New York are exploring retaliatory measures to offset the creation of more safe red seats.

Who is emulating whom? How many Republican districts are still left in those states to begin with to "retaliate" against that will not in some way negatively affect a Democrat incumbent?

Meanwhile, Republicans should open a second front in those blue states in statewide races for governor.

gilbar said...

"Their explicit mission... is to "kill Nazis"
and.. Trump (and ALL republicans) are "Nazis".. so...

Original Mike said...

It's hard to see how the democrats are going to fight this with even more gerrymandering in their states.

Peachy said...

To the left - everything they hate is a Nazi. Also - the left courted all the insane crazies - and now the crazies are their base. Kind of like a Brownshirt base.

mccullough said...

Send us money.

NorthOfTheOneOhOne said...

Except they won't sincerely engage American men and find out what the party can do to make men's lives better. They'll do anything, though!

gilbar said...

In CA - formerly safe R seats were "won" after Dems kept counting 'votes" for several weeks.

in Cali.. what % voted for a republican? how many seats did they win?

in NY.. what % voted for a republican? how many seats did they win?

in Ill.. what % voted for a republican? how many seats did they win?

Saint Croix said...

Inglourious Basterds (2009) In a way, it's like a propaganda movie. Nazis are portrayed as effeminate, smart, and sneaky. The British (and a few Germans) are portrayed as proper, brave, and civilized. While Americans are portrayed as uncivilized savages who view violence as sport and are completely callous. So it's kind of a bizarre propaganda movie, actually, in that it portrays Americans as the most brutal people on the planet. Propaganda is usually designed to inspire a nation. This is sort of like propaganda that is designed to scare the other guy. You don't want to mess with us!

I would rate this movie quite a ways down from Saboteur or Across the Pacific or Air Force, these amazing propaganda films Hollywood was churning out for World War II. If Tarantino made this movie in 1942 he would have been booed out of Hollywood. His heroes aren't heroic enough. They're not human, they're not likable, they're not emotionally engaging. In one scene a captured German solider acts civilized while the Americans are monstrous, using not just torture but murder to get information. And while we engage in this brutality, we bark like we're at the Coliseum.

Yet Brad Pitt gives an immensely likable performance. It's a winking performance. What his performance says to me is that we're not supposed to take any of this seriously. When he gives a pep talk, it's like he's a football coach. A bad football coach. "I want a hundred scalps by halftime." And then the Americans start scalping Nazis and carving swastikas into Nazi foreheads.

It's a film about propaganda and about heroes. A German soldier is portrayed as a hero in the film, a hero and a nice guy. The Nazis have shot a propaganda film about him. "He's the German Sgt. York." But it turns out that he's not a nice guy after all. That's just a facade; underneath he's a rapist. So perhaps Tarantino means his film as an attack on propaganda films. All those heroic figures in Hollywood movies? They don't exist. In reality, heroes are brutal and enjoy brutality and it's the most brutal people who win the wars. Tarantino's film suggests this and suggests too that brutality is likable and fun.

Yet this is complete crap, really. Brutality is likable and fun in movies, not in real life. In reality, people don't enjoy brutality, it appalls us. Just like war appalls people. So if we are skewering propaganda as fake while making a realistic film about the brutality of war, we would be making something akin to Saving Private Ryan. In that film ordinary soldiers capture a German soldier and discuss whether they should shoot him or let him go. They choose the nicer option, and later pay a price. Spielberg's movie works so well because it seems authentic. It captures both the brutality of war, and our desire to be nice and good. I think Tarantino's movie is several miles removed from this sort of realism.

Saint Croix said...

Inglourious Basterds is a kind of remake of Robert Aldrich's The Dirty Dozen, which itself is a skewering of classic war films. Aldrich's movie was released in 1967, in the midst of Vietnam, our most unpopular war. The Dirty Dozen, like Sam Peckinpah's The Wild Bunch, skewers old-fashioned notions of right and wrong. The heroes are bad guys. In Aldrich's film they are convicts, rapists, murderers. What makes that movie fun is how these bad guys redeem themselves and become heroes. In Tarantino's revision, the actual lesson is there are no heroes. Bad guys win wars. You want to win a war? You got to be bad. If you're fighting Nazis, you got to be worse than Nazis.

As propaganda it's pretty bizarre. Only in the movies. And this is a major criticism of Tarantino, I think, how divorced his art is from reality. He's always making movies about movies. And movies about movies about movies. But he has very little to say about reality, it seems to me. I mean, we are in the midst of a war with radical Islam. We are fighting people who kill Jews in wheelchairs, who throw them into the sea. We could use a hero or two to inspire us. But how ridiculous would it be to make a movie about Jewish CIA agents who carve crescent moons into the foreheads of terrorists? That would be obvious propaganda. It would be over the top, simplistic and absurd. It would inspire some of us and make the rest of us recoil.

Propaganda has a bad reputation, and it should. Politics is evil. And it's a horrible thing when art is reduced to politics. But sometimes art needs to pay attention to politics, to what is going on in the real world. And some of our finest art--Casablanca, Saboteur, Across the Pacific--is indeed propaganda for a cause. But these films are not crass. They're not crude. They're not mocking with ironic commentary. The issues are too important and the artists are too engaged for that. These films are brilliant art made by artists who are speaking out on the issues of the day, uniting and inspiring our people.

Tarantino's art doesn't have this sort of popular response because it's so disengaged from reality. As talented as Tarantino is--and his visual sense is always amazing--his films often make you feel nothing. It's a cool and vacuous experience.

doctrev said...

I wonder what would happen if we suggested carving stars into IDF soldiers at their future trials. Regardless, it's bizarre that anyone can talk about IB without mentioning Chris Waltz. He didn't merely make the movie, the movie gave him quite a streak of hot films in Hollywood. While the movie was technically excellent, it's at its most thought provoking when you realize the Nazis were considerably more civilized during the runtime l than the Americans. Yet Jews clap for it like trained seals.

n.n said...

All's fair in lust and abortion.

Ampersand said...

What is the glorious shining ideal for which Jimmy Gomez and his powerful pals are willing to cast aside all moral restraints? POWER

paul said...

Inglorious Basterds is a rather disgusting movie but like most nerds Tarintino loves cartoon violence and our "heroes" being ruthless killers without mercy or honor.

The whole movie is a weird American incel fantasy whereby anything is permitted because the Germans (not just the Nazis) are so evil. You can see the same attitude in Gaza. Someone hurt a Jew, so churches and hospitals can be bombed, old women and children murdered, and millions starved.

And americans go "Yeehaw, look at how tough we are".

Peachy said...

Gilbar - there are R -safe districts in the outlying areas of rural CA - outside of the major population centers.
I'm not an expert in NY or Ill. Other than Ill was taken over by the mob decades ago.

mezzrow said...

Had the Democratic party not done what they did to Trump the past nine years (particularly after they managed to get him nominated to face Hillary in '16), they wouldn't be in the mess they find themselves today. Their base will wank themselves blind over the fury of the resistance, but if the summer of 2026 goes off the rails like it did in 2020, they'll be lucky to be able to get a quorum to start a filibuster.

Maybe just chill for awhile and let Trump make his mistakes by himself? Can't do it. Too many theatre kids. Too many stars. Look at me!

paul said...

You culturally train people to believe "Everything is permitted to defeat Nazis. they aren't human". And then you transfer that attitude over to people you don't like: Iranians, Russians, Palestinians, whoever. Keyboard Kommandos then revel in brutality and Genocide. Along with weird freaks like Senator Ladybugs or Tom Cotton.

chuck said...

I don't recall Trump being a political figure back in 2000.

paul said...

The only good thing in IB is Chris Walz. Without him and his scenes the movie would be unwatchable. BTW, you can see Tarintino was backed by Harvey Weinstein. He must have loved this movie. Along with Django where Tarintino imagines himself as a black man murdering white cowboys (or Southern whites) for 10 minutes. Or the Hateful eight, where a white woman is hit in the face every 10 minutes (har, har).

Heartless Aztec said...

An appalling, way over the top blood fest more suited to an American International Picture intended for a mid to late 60's drive in run. It would have been comfortable as a triple feature nestled between any numerous blood fest films of the time - Mondo Basterds of Nazi Blood.

Original Mike said...

"in Cali.. what % voted for a republican? how many seats did they win?
in NY.. what % voted for a republican? how many seats did they win?
in Ill.. what % voted for a republican? how many seats did they win?"


See my comment at 10:57am.

Lazarus said...

If you have to say that you're the meanest, most vicious, S.O.B. in the valley, then you aren't. In politics, the meanest actors generally stay under the radar. With time, we may find out who they are, but they don't announce it to the newspapers.

Kevin said...

Gomez: "If you join the Democrat party you take on debit. A debit you own me, personally. Each and every person under my command owes me 100 dead fetuses. And I want my fetuses. And all you all will get me 100 dead fetuses. Taken from the wombs of 100 female-identifying persons. Or you will die trying."

Original Mike said...

"it's bizarre that anyone can talk about IB without mentioning Chris Waltz."

Turned me into a Christoph Waltz fan.

Leland said...

California has half as much US Congressional representation (17% of their delegation) than they do Republicans votes in the last election (38%). They got 9 Republican seats out of 52. So they can move it to less than 10% representation to regain 5 seats.

The thing is Texas has over 33% Democrats representation in its Congressional delegation.

They don’t mention Massachusetts, which has no Republican representation despite 36% voters voting for Trump.

Michael Fitzgerald said...

Democrat Party pieces of shit have excused their despicable and criminal attacks against Donald Trump by lying about him since the day after he announced his intention to ring for president. The august Democrat Party propaganda publication the New York Times announced during the 2016 presidential campaign that they would not cover Trump fairly or honestly, and that they were no longer bound by traditional American standards of journalistic integrity because they considered Trump not worthy of it.
All leftist Democrat Party cowards and creeps excuse their guilt and scumbaggery by slandering Donald Trump. Bunch of fucking punks, terrorists, and chickenshit pedophiles in the Democrat Party today.

FormerLawClerk said...

Killing Nazi's is not a war crime.

bob said...

Why is Gomez appalled by gerrymandering. Democrats gerrymandered away Republican congressional districts in Gomez's own state. I know, I know. It's different when you do it...

stlcdr said...

FormerLawClerk said...
Killing Nazi's is not a war crime.

8/2/25, 11:41 AM


Which is why the left portrays anything they don’t like as Nazism or facism. It justifies their evil ways.

Magilla Gorilla said...

Bravo to Saint Croix for articulating what I always disliked about Tarantino movies, despite his obvious talent. Jackie Brown is an exception, and a wonderful movie with decent characters at the heart of the story. Even Pulp Fiction had a moral core. The rest (the ones I have seen, anyway) are repellent.

Original Mike said...

California:
🔴40% of the statewide vote
🔵17% of the seats (9 out of 52)

Massachusetts:
🔴35% of the statewide vote
🔵0% of the seats (0 out of 9)

Connecticut:
🔴 38% of the statewide vote
🔵 0% of the seats (0 out of 5)

New York:
🔴42% of the statewide vote
🔵26.9% of the seats (7 out of 26)

New Jersey:
🔴 43% of the statewide vote
🔵 25% of the seats (3 out of 12)

Maryland:
🔴 38% of the statewide vote
🔵 12% of the seats (1 out of 8)

New Mexico:
🔴 44% of the statewide vote
🔵 0% of the seats (0 out of 3)

Hawaii:
🔴 30% of the statewide vote
🔵 0% of the seats (0 out of 2)

Oregon:
🔴 42% of the statewide vote
🔵 16% of the seats (1 out of 6)

Washington:
🔴 38% of the statewide vote
🔵 20% of the seats (2 out of 10)

Rhode Island:
🔴 38% of the statewide vote
🔵 0% of the seats (0 out of 2)

Lazarus said...

It would be hard to carve a Republican congressional district out of anywhere in Massachusetts. You'd need proportional representation to get one. Still, the Democrats did what they could to ensure Barney Frank's seat by linking up his very liberal base in Boston, Newton, and Brookline with Democrat strongholds in Fall River and New Bedford. His district snaked down the state, in places only as wide as one town or a few miles, in order to ensure Barney's reelection for decades.

Bob Boyd said...

Every school shooter tells himself what he does is justified. It doesn't make him a hero and it doesn't make the school system better for kids who don't fit in.

Aggie said...

..."Someone hurt a Jew, so churches and hospitals can be bombed, old women and children murdered, and millions starved. ....."

Those would be the 'churches and hospitals' that had miles of connecting tunnels carved underneath them, and vast stores of munitions and armaments? Did you forget the kindergartens and day care centers too, with similar appointments? And now they're 'starving'?

Yes we saw pictures of the emaciated infant (with the rare genetic condition), held by the exceptionally well-nourished nursemaid and well-nourished toddler, standing just outside of the cropped picture version that was printed in the media. We also saw the microscopic retraction printed a few days later, in the back pages.

Once one lies for a living, they shouldn't be surprised when nobody believes them any more. If people are starving, I would need to hear that from a reputable source with a reliable track record, before I might start to believe it.

Achilles said...

FormerLawClerk said...
Killing Nazi's is not a war crime.

The term war crime is awful. It is created with evil intent.

In WWI the invention of railroads and steam ships removed logistical limitations on the size of armies that could be brought to bear in conflict. For the first time millions of soldiers were able to be transported armed and fed and deployed to the battlefield.

This made the toll of war ubiquitous and it made the decision to go to war very unpopular with the people who had to fight the war.

The elites still needed the little people to fight so they made up a bunch of crap and rules to convince plebs to keep dying for them. As long as their are no war crimes war isn’t that bad mmkay.

Earnest Prole said...

I recall how certain Democrats were that dumping the judicial filibuster would result in a permanent Democratic advantage, and then they lost the Supreme Court for a generation.

Bob Boyd said...


Think of us as the 'Inglourious Basterds'

More like Butch, Zed and the Gimp.

baghdadbob said...

Original Mike said...
"It's hard to see how the democrats are going to fight this with even more gerrymandering in their states."

Silly Mike, only Republicans gerrymander. Democrats merely "redistrict."

Quaestor said...

"Killing Nazi's is not a war crime."

Former Law Clerk persists in revealing the why of the "Former". (Perhaps he should amend that nom de plume to read Incompetent Former Law Clerk.)

Killing Nazis is most assuredly a war crime as defined by the United States Uniform Code of Military Justice and the Hague Convention of 1907 Regarding Prisoners of War, Regulations, Article 4.

If not for the intervention of George S. Patton acting in his capacity as Military Governor of Bavaria, a career officer, one LTC Felix L. Sparks, and several members of his battalion staff would have been court-martialed on that charge, specifically the murders of at least 21 surrendered SS members serving as guards at the infamous Dachau concentration camp executed by American soldiers of the 157th Field Artillery Regiment on 29 April 1945.

Gospace said...

Yet this is complete crap, really. Brutality is likable and fun in movies, not in real life. In reality, people don't enjoy brutality, it appalls us.

There are lots of head stomping videos on the internet to prove that some subset or people enjoy brutality. With politicians even proclaiming that another subset of people asked for their head stompings...

And going back in history- let's not forget the way the peaceful knowing how to live in harmony with nature indigenous natives of both North and South America treated enemy warriors captured in battle. Brutality was entertainment.

Civilization requires constant maintenance.

Gospace said...

should get rid of bold...

reader said...

The Real Inglorious Bastards 2012 documentary of Operation Greenup

Narr said...

Killing Nazi's what is not a war crime?

The plural of Nazi is Nazis.

I know, this makes me a grammar Nazi. Or punctuation Nazi.

john mosby said...

On Morning Joe, of all places, some talking head explained the conundrum the Dems face if they try re-gerrymandering:

Right now, majority black or brown districts exist because they are drawn to exclude Republican-leaning whites, who then elect Republicans in at least some of their districts.

If you want to take away those whites' ability to elect Republicans, you will have to draw some blacks/browns into their districts and out of the safe black/brown seats, which means you get more Dems elected overall, but at the cost of fewer black/brown congressmen.

Black/brown politicians know this and will at least complicate if not completely sabotage any re-gerrymandering.

The left's internal contradictions at work.

RR
JSM

Peachy said...

O Mike - yeah - that's not suspicious at all!

the dems are liars, cheaters and mobsters.

loudogblog said...

The first thing I thought of when I read this was that the Inglorious Basterds intentionally comitted war crimes. It's just that it was a movie, and people are allowed to break laws in movies because it's fantasy; not reality.

Iman said...

Fuck Gomez and the burro he rode in on. Calunicornia Democrats redrew the lines and picked up 4 house seats a couple of years ago, IIRC.

Scott Gustafson said...

So now the state legislatures want to do to the House of Representatives what the constitution originally did to the Senate. I guess direct election isn't a thing anymore.

Quaestor said...

"I know, this makes me a grammar Nazi. Or punctuation Nazi."

Is the formation of the English possessive case literally a matter of punctuation? I ask in my capacity as a hauptsturmführer of punctuation Nazis.

Quaestor said...

Italics off.

Quaestor said...

Stop

Peachy said...

Speaking of shitty horrible democratics - 3 ladies started an X account cover Denver's street insanity- and the powers that be - including the democrat gate keepers at The Denver Post - are furious - and are working on outing the 3 women - so that Nazi leftists can harass and intimidate ... (or worse) these females.

Please read and follow

Do Better Denver

thanks.

Narr said...

"Is the formation of the English possessive case literally a matter of punctuation?"

How am I supposed to know? I just work here.

Peachy said...

Do Better Denver
@dobetterdnvr

"My mission with DoBetterDNVR is to bring Denver’s drug and homelessness crisis into the spotlight by sharing videos and information.

I run my Instagram and X accounts with zero monetization, driven purely by a commitment to truth, transparency, and accountability—not chasing cash, clout, or likes. I answer to no one—no special interests, no puppet-masters pulling strings.

Through this platform, I aim to reveal the entrenched corruption undermining our city: Elected officials leveraging their positions for personal benefit, Execs suppressing critical data to safeguard their roles, and a system structured to perpetuate dysfunction rather than resolve it.

Now, 100,000 of you (on IG, + 19k on X) are on this ride with me, and it’s your unwavering support—your submissions, your comments, your shares—that’s carried us this far. Together, we will continue to display the abject failures of corrupt and complicit out-of-touch liars while advocating for real change."

Smilin' Jack said...

Well, since they’re fighting Nazis, this is totally justified. But I think they should provide their agents with flamethrowers next time. They don’t seem to do too well with rifles.

Skeptical Voter said...

Love it when those Dims talk butch.

Narr said...

In Sicily there were (IIRC) two separate massacres of German and/or Italian POWs committed by US soldiers. Both were tried and I think convicted--the officer was busted to enlisted rank and KIA shortly afterward; an NCO served some time. Again, IIRC.

Narr said...

I accepted a small collection of books and documents from a man who had been in the Ninth Infantry Division in Africa and NWE.

He said that in Normandy he and his squad captured some Germans, and treated them correctly. Shortly afterward, they were themselves captured by other Germans, who treated them correctly after hearing from their comrades.

Later they were recaptured by Americans, and my informant was tasked with escorting a batch of prisoners to the rear.

Narr said...

On the way, one of the prisoners kept whispering to the others despite being told to shut up several times. When he continued to mouth off, my guy shot him in the heart with his pistol, and there was no more trouble.

He felt bad about that, 50 years later, but since I am not a psychologist or priest I just mumbled to the effect that in my opinion the German had it coming and took my leave.

narciso said...

Dems corrupt another institution, the census bureau, how does one lose net population and yet still not lose seats ,same with texas and florida, which somehow didn't gain enough seatsthen they play these games with redistricting, and Marc Elias etch a sketch

inglorious bastards is a dark fantasy, informed by the fact that many of the worst did not end up at Nurenberg, quite a few ended up on government payroll of one kind mostly in South America, some in the Middle East Eichmann, Mengele,
(was perhaps the most pitiful) Rauff Bolshwing Brunner, his deputy, ended up dying quietly in bed, some like Barbie were prosecuted some 40 years later, after they had served his purpose, Major Landa is not so much like those, but a careerist, a clubbable sort,

of course, this thread brought out the inner nazi in some, the ones who say the Holocaust didn't happen and it was a good thing, and they clink glasses with the Nukba of Hamas, the ones who slay with abandon, and even record it enthusiastically,

narciso said...

then they opened the borders and let in 14-20 million people, to further weigh down the scales, this was after they stole the election, so now its a rearguard action all the way,
the former probably had more than some impact on the BLS count we saw yesterday,

hombre said...

Democrats use Trump to justify every sleazy and/or illegal thing they do. In that sense he is a gift to them. In another sense not so much. The world can now see them for who they are if it chooses to look.

Jim at said...

"Trump has fundamentally changed the rules of political engagement in this country. If they attack, you attack back."

It's always projection with these assholes, isn't it?

narciso said...

always and he seems to be aligned with the Skippy O'Rourke wing of nutz like Jazzy Crockett,

Jim at said...
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Jim at said...

Someone hurt a Jew, so churches and hospitals can be bombed, old women and children murdered, and millions starved.

Great. Another one.

narciso said...

the Gaza hospital struck by their own rockets, the Church of Taybeh, actually was not standing, of course there are the Hamas thieves who enable the famine, and then blame the
Jews, like the old definition of Chutzpah,

hawkeyedjb said...

"Someone hurt a Jew, so churches and hospitals can be bombed, old women and children murdered, and millions starved."

Perhaps if the cost of hurting Jews is raised sufficiently, then fewer Jews will be hurt (raped, mutilated, slaughtered, imprisoned). It doesn't look as if the cost is yet high enough for some to re-think their Jew-hate.

Gospace said...

narciso said...
Dems corrupt another institution, the census bureau, how does one lose net population and yet still not lose seats ,same with texas and florida, which somehow didn't gain enough seatsthen they play these games with redistricting, and Marc Elias etch a sketch


Easier explanation- the limitation of congress critters to 435 is unconstitutional since the Constitution itself requires proportional representation.

For example- Illinois population divided by Wyoming is 22 and a bit. Illinois has 17 congresscritters. That's not proportional, no matter how you cut it.

(State population) divided by (smallest state population) is the smallest number of congresscritters required by the plain text of the Constitution. It could be (State population) divided by (.5 * smallest state population) which would give Wyoming 2 CDs, and Illinois 34.

Olson Johnson is right! said...

Why can't congressional districts just be drawn by zip code? I think* zip codes are contiguous and the census people can tell you how many people live in each zone. Just start with the lowest numerical zone and keep adding zones in sequence till you reach whatever the magic number is. Then start the next district. No muss no fuss. No gerry manders.


*I might be wrong about how the zip code maps look in sparsely populated WY and NV and MT, but I think the system would still work.

narciso said...

working within those parameters, those two data don't compute, sizable out migrations should lead to reduced seats and vice versa

I'm not saying Florida is gonna tip over, but more of this and we will get a little leakey, so fat we have managed to maintain a sane electorate, but much more boiling pot,

n.n said...

Emphasis on "turds".

Kevin said...

Some commenters are so thoroughly missing the point of Inglourious Basterds that I can physically hear the "woooosh"

bagoh20 said...
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Narr said...

Some sinister force has eaten the comment I posted between 204 and 213, without which my 213 makes little sense. It was a story I was told by a former member of the 47th I.R. of the Ninth Infantry Division who fought in Normandy, about how both sides more or less respected the rules about POWs, with exceptions.

RCOCEAN II said...

There's nothing worse than reading dumbshits who can't tell the difference between a German soldier and a Nazi. And if murdering German soldiers is OK because "They deserved it", than quit crying about Hamas and the Holocaust. Because the Nazis thought the Jews "Deserved it" too.

You either stand for immoral barbarism or you don't. You don't get to be Attila the Hun and then invoke morality.

bagoh20 said...
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john mosby said...

Narr, ref the whispering Kraut: he could have been passing along escape instructions like “tell Hans to grab the Amerikaner’s gun the next time we hit a bump” for all the guard knew. Such conduct violates the agreement between captor and captured, so the war is back on for the whisperer. Not to mention common law self defense for the outnumbered guard.

RR
JSM

Harun said...

In California, the Democrats legalized ballot harvesting.

Narr said...

"This thread brought out the inner Nazi in some . . . "

I like the observation that the very people who have the least objection to the mass murder of Jews are the same people who are most insistent that the mass murder of Jews never happened.

narciso said...

In war you kill the enemy, the difference with the Nazis is they targeted civilians first, with the efficiency, that Germans apply to everything, there is a certain syncronicity with the way certain groups agree with this perspective, it wasn't nearly Hamas but it was every member of the band Popular Front, Al Aqsa Brigades even those that don't have a name took to killing with a certain frisson,

Narr said...

Exactly right, JSM. I suspect the scenario was precisely that.
I wasn't there, and don't judge.

Go light a candle, RCOCEANII. Better yet, go light 40,000 candles, and report back when you're done.

narciso said...

Now the Soviets talent for the Devouring (a term applied to the liquidation of the Romany) but it serves the purpose, often is not remarked upon, and it didn't end with Koba, it started with Lenin, but that was mostly against their own subject peoples, which did extend to Eastern Europe,

Narr said...

Some of the comments make me think that my scene-setting post is or was visible to others. I'm not sure that has happened to me here before.

FullMoon said...

"Narr said...
Some of the comments make me think that my scene-setting post is or was visible to others. I'm not sure that has happened to me here before.

8/2/25, 4:40 PM"

It happens. You post it, you see it. 10 minutes later, it's gone . 30 minutes later it's back.

Narr said...

"It happens." I know, and I guess I should be glad that I had the foresight to break the anecdote into two posts rather than one long one.

Knowing that others saw it--even if some are incapable of understanding it--makes it less necessary for me to recreate it.

Big Mike said...

Oh puh-leeze! Since when have Democrats ever eschewed the low road? The negative campaigning? The dirty tricks? The ballot box stuffing? Please tell me that neither Althouse nor anyone commenting here ever fell into the trap of actually believing Michelle Obama when she said "When they go low, we go high." When Republicans go low, it's only because the Democrats are lower still.

Greg The Class Traitor said...

Here they're just being teh dishonest bastards

Since if the gerrymandering goes exactly the way the GOP wants, ILL will still be more D gerrymandered than Texas and FL will beR gerrymandered.

But "Democrat politicians are lying sacks of shit" is "day ending in y"

Craig Mc said...

Bwahaha! As if Democrats haven't been in "by any means" mode the past ten years.

RCOCEAN II said...

"Go light a candle, RCOCEANII. Better yet, go light 40,000 candles, and report back when you're done."

Okey-Dokey

JIM said...

Is Seditious Conspiracy a form of "hardball" that Republicans practice?
Where do they find these clowns? Solid Blue states. They can say anything without fear of reprisal.

RCOCEAN II said...

"I like the observation that the very people who have the least objection to the mass murder of Jews are the same people who are most insistent that the mass murder of Jews never happened."

I like the observation that this makes no sense. With 40,000 dead Gazans, I don't see any "Mass Murder of Jews" in 2025.

Achilles said...

Democrats are embracing progressive values.

Progressives and socialists are inherently violent people. Their ideology is based on taking other people’s stuff. There are always some people who will resist having their stuff taken and progressives will kill or subjugate them.

They will always resort to whatever means they have to to take power. They cannot survive in a free society. They are generally mediocre and morally retarded people.

Achilles said...

RCOCEAN II said...

I like the observation that this makes no sense. With 40,000 dead Gazans, I don't see any "Mass Murder of Jews" in 2025.

If it was about dead Palestinians then any honest person would note that Egypt has killed as many Palestinians as Israel has and that Jordan has killed orders of magnitude more than Israel.

We know you don’t care about Palestinians.

BUMBLE BEE said...

A famous weatherman, Sonny Eliot, told of how he was in a German POW camp after having been shot down in his B24. A a ranking Luftwaffe Officer visiting that camp demanded all the airmen captives be turned over to a Luftwaffe POW camp immediately. Sonny said they were given healthcare, Red Cross packages and were treated humanely while incarcerated there.

Achilles said...

Kevin said...
Some commenters are so thoroughly missing the point of Inglourious Basterds that I can physically hear the "woooosh"

Was there a deeper meaning? Please explain it to me.

I Thought it was the most cliche and trite representation of revenge porn. Maybe they were trying to make fun of revenge porn and how stupid the genre is?

scjack said...

Do the Dems realize that the bastards weren't anti Semites?

Narr said...

Muslims die at the hands of other Muslims in large numbers all the time, but only some of them get noticed.

Old and slow said...

Heartless Aztec said...
An appalling, way over the top blood fest

So, much the same as all Tarantino's crap?

RCOCEAN II said...

"Yeah, people die all the time. So, what the big whoop about wars and genocide."

Anytime anyone says something like that, I make sure never to trust them in any capacity. Amoral assholes will steal from you, stab you in the back, or do even worse, because they they think the world revolves around them, and they have no morality.

RCOCEAN II said...

Was there a deeper meaning? Please explain it to me.

You took the troll bait.

RCOCEAN II said...

"inglorious bastards is a dark fantasy, informed by the fact that many of the worst did not end up at Nurenberg, quite a few ended up on government payroll of one kind mostly in South America, some in the Middle East Eichmann, Mengele,"

Once the again, the Nazis are supposed to be the ulitimate evil, and if we didn't kill everyone last one of t hem, it was somewhow a tragedy.

No one in the West has ever thought like this. The communists under Mao and Stalin were just as bad as the Nazis and no one even cared if the leaders of the mass murders was punished.

The normal thing is to imprison or kill the leaders, and then move on. Only with the Nazis do we get this obsessive, endless demand for vengence. And don't think that I'm "Upset" about it. I just think its bizzare and hypocritical. And typically 'murcian. I think you could brainwash 'muricans to all jump off a cliff.

Bunkypotatohead said...

Featuring Chuck Schumer as the Bear Jew.

john mosby said...

Ocean: chasing down every last National Socialist is " its bizzare and hypocritical. And typically 'murcian."

I think it's more typically Western European. The Brits were PO'd because of the Blitz. The rest of Western Europe were PO'd at themselves for surrendering or collaborating. So they focused all their blame on one group. Where did they learn that from? Hmmm....

Whereas in Commie countries, the regime lasted so long that everyone was compromised. Hard to hunt down "Communists" when you have pics from your Pioneer and Komsomol days in your family album, and your Party membership certificate on your wall. The hunt would never end, and to the extent you're PO'd against the Commies, you're PO'd against their internal hypervigilance and neighbors informing on each other, so you're probably not going to be up for more of it.

Especially in ethnically homogeneous places like Poland or western Russia. Now, in places where the Commie iron hand was forcing together groups with long-standing enmities, look out: Yugoslavia, the Caucasus, to a certain extent Ukraine, etc. But even then, it wasn't a hunt for Commies - it was a hunt for any/all of "the people we've hated for 800 years."

RR
JSM

Tina Trent said...

Het, let's talk about the hundreds of Catholic Churches burned, thousands of Catholics killed, and hundreds of Catholic girls turned brutally into sex slaves by Muslim filth every year. Pope Leo? Pope Leo?

Rusty said...

Peachy said, "I'm not an expert in NY or Ill. Other than Ill was taken over by the mob decades ago., "

The centers of Democrat power in Illinois are in just a handful of countys. Cook, Lake, Dupage, Winnebago, and Sangamon. The rest of the state is pretty much red. There are 102 countys in Illinois.

john mosby said...

Trent: yes, the RC's and my own Anglicans put so many martyrs on the calendar who were killed by the right - hardly any who were killed by the left or the modern moors....

RR
JSM

Rusty said...

I always thought that IB was Tarantinos response to being bullied in school. He has made two good movies. The afore mentioned Jackie Brown and Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. Both tight well written scripts.

Tina Trent said...

John Mosby: what "right" and "left"? Meaningless historical terms.

Transgenerational guilt is just prejudice anyway. I'm referring to current in actions in Africa mainly, by Muslims.

What an unhinged comment.

Tacitus said...

Performative violence. Is this really the way the Dems want to go?

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