August 28, 2025

"I only keep [the long hair] because it is pretty much my last shred of being trans. I am tired of being trans, I wish I never brain-washed myself..."

"I can’t cut my hair now as it would be embarrassing defeat, and it might be a concerning change of character that could get me reported. It just always gets in my way. I will probably chop it on the day of the attack.... I don’t want to dress girly all the time but I guess sometimes I really like it. I know I am not a woman but I definitely don’t feel like a man."

Wrote Robin Westman, more or less rejecting trans identity, quoted in "Minneapolis school shooter Robin Westman confessed he was 'tired of being trans': 'I wish I never brain-washed myself'" (NY Post).

I don't understand why we are calling this person trans. If you're saying you "brain-washed" yourself, you've implicitly consigned the belief to the past. You might not reveal the loss of belief to others, but you've put it in writing — albeit in code — and we can read it. Why are people pretending to believe that he believed what he said he didn't believe? And he wrote it explicitly: "I know I am not a woman." 

I don't see why anyone wants this person to be a member of their group. What good would it do anyone to have Westman as one of their own?

91 comments:

rhhardin said...

Why is anybody even interested?

What does the news claim to know that you don't know? It claims to know what is important.

3 children 14 and under die every day in just traffic accidents. That's one more than the school shooting. Surely the daily child death is more important than the school shooting. A permanent above-the-fold fixture.

No entertainment value, is why.

It's about entertainment, a dopamine hit from outrage or empathy.

An audience problem.

rhhardin said...

Unless it's a child death in a school bus. Then it's entertainment.

RideSpaceMountain said...

Another splitting wedge has added themselves to the gaping 'thing that doesn't happen' axe wound of trans-visibility.

Cappy said...

Yecch.

RideSpaceMountain said...

They can try as hard as they might
They can shill as hard as they will
But they will never be a woman
Again
Still

DarkHelmet said...

Why is this pretender not really trans when other pretenders are? What does it mean to be 'really' trans? A biological male who goes trans is not a woman. Wishing and pretending and insisting that he is a woman doesn't alter reality. Whether the person believes himself to be a woman or not has no bearing on the reality of his situation. He can pretend all he wants. The rest of us are not and should not be obligated to pretend along with him. Way too many of us are too polite to point out the obvious.

DarkHelmet said...

And did he really 'brainwash' himself all by himself, or did he have some help from the larger culture?

hawkeyedjb said...

"I know I am not a woman." Every man pretending to be a woman knows this. There is a huge industry devoted to denying this. Like the mafia, that industry furthers its interests by purchasing politicians. And the merry-go-round continues.

Skeptical Voter said...

Or--and I am sure that the Mayor of Minneapolis would chide me for this--simply say that this person was a "wacko bird". Hat tip to the late John McCain for the phrase. As for me I am feeling love and concern for the two dead children and the 17 injured first. My priorities are in order.

gilbar said...

"a concerning change of character that could get me reported."

reported to WHOM?

gilbar said...

So, our Professor doesn't want to call the murderer a "trans",
so says that is INCORRECT, and that we NEED to call him non-binary.
got it!

Quaestor said...

Robert Westman had the misfortune to be born male in Minnesota and go schizoid under the anti-psychotherapy Walz administration.

RideSpaceMountain said...

gilbar said, "reported to WHOM?"

There's only one group tranz hate more than TERFS, and that's apostate de-tranzistioners.

Randomizer said...

I don't see why anyone wants this person to be a member of their group.

Does anyone want this person in their group? It seemed like the goal was to establish that the shooter was in the opposing group.

Being trans is a red flag for mental or emotional distress. It isn't a phase or lifestyle choice like going vegetarian or changing parties on your voter registration.

Westman changed his name when he was 17 years old, but is worried that cutting his hair will get him reported for a concerning change of character. Hearing from the parents would be informative.

D.D. Driver said...

See this is what we have been told all along: if we don't give teenagers hormones to confirm their identity they become suicidal. Did they give Robin her hormones or just let her change her name and pretend that was good enough? This blood is on the hands of the transphobic nazis.

(Because, I know some of you are stupid-->this is sarcasm. I'm mocking the left you fucking dopes.)

Paul said...

While I am to the right of John Wayne Jesus is about love... This Westman should have gone to a Christian and confessed, then cleaned up. They do have groups to help him transition back to being a male. And to be accepted.

Aggie said...

"...it would be embarrassing defeat, and it might be a concerning change of character that could get me reported...."

Reported to who? Reported for what? Would a haircut trigger Red Flag laws? It sounds like there were things leading up to this tragedy that had set the stage for a potential response.

No way out for the mentally-ill teen. Thank the social and industrial-medical culture that encouraged him all along the way. As for 'I don't see why anyone wants this person to be a member of their group....', well - they still have to validate themselves, and their purpose. It's an intermediate step toward showing that the fault lies all with the teen, not them.

Bob Boyd said...

I don't understand why we are calling this person trans.

What is a woman? What is a man? What is trans?
How many trans people feel like this, but we don't have access to their diary or their private thoughts?
It must be very confusing to be in that position or state. I doubt there is a lot of certainty for a young trans person about what they are doing moment to moment, day to day and when there is, I doubt it lasts very long. They might say otherwise, of course, out loud.
Westman wrote those words at a moment in time when he was feeling a certain way. It's likely he was feeling differently at other times.
What is trans? Perhaps it comes with a state of constant doubt and anxiety, especially in a young person. Doubt and anxiety often manifest as anger.
This guy doesn't help the cause, that's for sure. Do the white males get to exclude him as a member of that demographic because he did something terrible? Nope.

Enigma said...

History doesn't repeat but it rhymes. Many reassignment surgeries of the 1970s ended in suicides by the 1980s. Biological determinism (i.e., with substantial predicability) is real. Mental illness is real. Jordan Peterson knew all this and rang the alarm, and then got bullied and gaslit by a mass of conformist professionals who truly knew better.

Blame corruption, medical industry greed, the short attention spans of the smartphone era, and the smug arrogance of Obama and his followers.

tim maguire said...

Everybody always wants the shooter to be a member of a group they don’t like, but the reality is, they are mentally ill. Because they are mentally ill, they have rambling incoherent politics that give fodder to whatever argument a partisan wants to make. But the real is cause is mental illness.

Temujin said...

I think it's far more important to note that he felt like he brainwashed himself. He didn't do it on his own. He's had an entire nation encouraging it, pumping it, pushing it on our kids. Making what has been, in any other age, any other time in this or any other country, an abnormal process, a normalized 'transition'. Not only was it normalized, but praised. Celebrated. Given more attention and space than its actual participants merited. And so...they had to grow the numbers and continue to push...push society on it's head. Make people uncomfortable, and get others, especially the young, to sacrifice themselves to The Cause.

Another day, another cause. And when it passes- and it will pass- those responsible for people like Robin Westman will have disappeared back into the woodwork. Or the university. Or their medical clinics.

Lastly, I will note this because I think it's important to say. I am not calling trans people evil. I am not denying that there are some people who do need to transition- or at least they have felt a lifelong need to do so. And if they have reached adulthood, it's their life. But for kids and younger people? Regret is too soft a word for what you would feel.
I would also say that, even though I acknowledge there will always be adults who transition, or feel the need to- it is still an abnormal human psychology. It is not the norm. Doesn't make it evil. But it's not normal.

FormerLawClerk said...

If you tell people that men can have babies, and you keep telling them that - and abusing them verbally if they try to reject this falsehood ... then a large number of those people will just go insane.

This kid's mother - who worked at the Catholic School that was shot up - has a lot to answer for.

Unknown if her name is Munchausen.

FormerLawClerk said...

What's amazing to me as well is that the last Minnesota mass shooter said he was hired by Tim Walz to perform political assassinations and the FBI hasn't even questioned Tim Walz.

Hasn't even questioned him.

robother said...

They call Westman trans, and use "she" because that's the trap the Left has made for itself. Any acknowledgment that any/many/most/all these teen and pre-teen types have been induced to "self-brain-wash" and that therapy to recover their true birth identity is valid and necessary is impossible. (If Minnesota is like Colorado, it may be illegal to even call him Robert or mis-gender her.)

Quaestor said...

Once Westman exhibited symptoms of gender dysphoria it became illegal to help him recover in Minnesota under the terms of this statute signed in law by Tim Walz.

Westman was a suicidal/homicidal maniac whose crimes could have been avoided if Minnesota wasn't in the thrall of evil forces.

Humperdink said...

He reached the point of no hope. No one was there to counsel him, to catch him before he fell. What were his parents doing through this? Who was brainwashed? His mother, that’s who, when she signed off on name change.

Christopher B said...

Transition means being in an unstable state. It's pretty clear from reading the entire excerpt and not focusing on one or two fragments that Westman was still struggling to achieve a stable identity. I have no doubt that he had genuine feelings of confusion over sexuality as those are not uncommon in adolescence. As Quaestor noted, he just had the bad luck to express them at a time when we've normalized extreme interventions to align gender stereotypes with biology.

FormerLawClerk said...

"Because they are mentally ill, they have rambling incoherent politics that give fodder to whatever argument a partisan wants to make. But the real is cause is mental illness."

Yes Tim ... except we now have a Supreme Court Justice who swore under oath that she couldn't define the word "woman." She was either clinically insane or she was committing perjury. Either way, she should not be on any court anywhere.

The real cause may be mental illness, but we still have to live with the consequences of these fucking corrupt Democrats telling our children that men can have babies (and the rest of the load of bullshit they're pushing down kids' throats today.)

WhoKnew said...

OK, we won't call this person trans anymore, as long as we admit that the attempt to be trans is the mental illness that drove him to this. The fact that he apparently admitted (if only to himself) that it was BS is somewhat irrelevant.

Joe Bar said...

I noticed we have only heard about Mrs. Westman. Is there air. Westman? Or is this another case of “The father could not be reached for comment?”

RideSpaceMountain said...

Magnus Hirschfeld, Arthur Kronfeld (founded the Institute of Sex Research, Berlin in 1919), and dr. John Money are burning in hell. So will everyone since them that's enabled this cultural catastrophe.

phantommut said...

Are we at the end or the beginning of Heinlein's "Crazy Years"?

phantommut said...

"I know I am not a woman but I definitely don’t feel like a man."

The cultural obsession with "special" has screwed so many young people looking for their place in the world.

Normal has become boring, and worse, a stigma.

Mr. D said...

Joe Bar said...
I noticed we have only heard about Mrs. Westman. Is there air. Westman? Or is this another case of “The father could not be reached for comment?”


I would imagine we won't hear anything at all; if we do, it will be after the parents have lawyered up.

Lazarus said...

Would the "manifesto" or whatever it really was have been released so early if Westman didn't stop identifying as transgender? And did Westman really repudiate his trans identity or were these comments part of the emotional downswings, accompanied by emotional upswings?

It seems like everyone wonders after an atrocity if the perpetrator were of their own race, or ethnicity, or religion, or gender, or sexual preference. Then, if the killer isn't one of their own, some people use the tragedy to attack another group that they don't belong to. That's become a national sport. The finger pointers don't make exceptions, so why expect there to be an exception in this case because Westman felt qualms about his transness at some point?

Wince said...

""I can’t cut my hair now as it would be embarrassing defeat, and it might be a concerning change of character that could get me reported. It just always gets in my way. I will probably chop it on the day of the attack."

Almost cut my hair
It happened just the other day
It's gettin' kinda long
I coulda said it wasn't in my way
But I didn't and I wonder why
I feel like letting my freak flag fly
Yes, I feel like I owe it to someone

Wince said...

Dear White Staffers @dearwhitestaff
This is Peggy Flanagan, Tim Walz's Lt. Governor, she cares about trans kids!!! ❤️ She will be Governor upon Walz's victory.

Wearing a knife image T-shirt

Jupiter said...

"I don't understand why we are calling this person trans."
Because that is the form his madness took. When people go crazy in this bizarre modern fashion, we call them "transsexual", or "trans" for short. Maybe you could look it up in the OED?

Bob Boyd said...

"He was a bad apple."

Apples: "Wait a minute..."

Peachy said...

The democratics and their sick media have their soviet talking points down.
Innocent children were murdered by a Democrat Party creation - a trans-insanity asshole - so you all better watch it with the Trans-phobia. .

The media (D) do not shed a tear for the children.

Achilles said...

I don't see why anyone wants this person to be a member of their group. What good would it do anyone to have Westman as one of their own?

You don't seem to understand how social media works and how it taps into primordial drives to keep our place in the tribe.

Westman was a leader on the left right up to the point where it became politically disadvantageous.

The left will take anyone it can get at this point.

Howard said...

To bolster RHHardin's point via Gemini:

"Approximately 850 to 900 children under 14 drown in the United States each year, with drowning being a leading cause of unintentional injury-related death for this age group. Specifically, it's the second-leading cause of death for children aged 5-14 and the leading cause for those aged 1-4. "

Josephbleau said...

“ Klobuchar: The shooter was a madman. There's no way to pin an ideology on this. ”. This from msnbc.

So a noted dem senator claims that a trans woman is a man, and that painting “kill Trump” is not a sign of ideology. They are not smart, they violate their own code while vilifying others who do so. They are disgustingly swinish.

Bob Boyd said...

I don't understand why we are calling this person trans.

In the tradition of another famous Minnesotan who rejected the typically masculine , I propose we call him, "The shooter formerly known as trans."

Achilles said...

I don't understand why we are calling this person trans.

Oh dear.

If you want to understand go look up the term "Social Contagion." It is common parlance in psychological discussion.

But Psychologists hate the term because it emphasizes the fact that Psychology is a complete bullshit subject.

I know you hate it when people give you "homework" so all on you.

Maybe at work today I will explain why the number of Trans people has exploded recently while the number of crazy people remained the same.

Jupiter said...

The question isn't why "we" call this person trans. The question is why the "medical professionals" and "educators" who destroyed this person are allowed near children. They should be in prison.

William said...

The school authorities, the media and reasonable people have resolved to give minimum publicity to school suicides. They do this because they know that such publicity only encourages other suicidal people to take the plunge......There's a dark glamour that attaches to school shootings, and you can bet that there are other disturbed young people who are reading about this and thinking why not me......However, no efforts will be made to minimize the buzz around this shooting and this shooter. The anti-gun people think that such publicity helps the cause of gun control . This is now the second trans school shooter, and the anti-trans people will make him famous. Perhaps there are lots of troubled young people, and trans young people are troubled on stilts and steroids.

bagoh20 said...

I'm pretty sure this person was nuts, and therefor what they say or write may not be reliable for anything other than proving they are nuts. You don't wonder why a rabid dog doesn't act normal and bites people.
Sometimes I think I might just be one bad day away from doing something insane, but 99% of the time I think that's completely impossible. I think that's normal, but if the ratio was the other way around. I would hope someone would take my guns and lock me in a hospital.

Peachy said...
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Peachy said...

The corrupt democratic party / progressive soviets.
Created this.
Jesse Waters nails it:
... “Teenagers are confused…. But the Left's weaponizing trans kids and turning them into culture warriors, and they've been turned loose against the Church, schools, and Trump. You see it, I see it. The trans clan has a militant wing, and it's out for blood. They're taking lives, defiling churches, and freaking everybody out.”

Peachy said...

"... America’s ruling class knows there’s a disturbing connection between trans ideology and violence, yet they insist on burying the evidence under hollow slogans and woke talking points. The brutal reality is that a disturbing pattern has emerged — one that the Left dares not acknowledge because it undermines their sacred narrative. Instead, the media and politicians run interference, excusing and silencing the truth, while innocent Americans — especially our children — are left exposed as potential victims of an agenda they never asked for."

-Matt Margolis

Peachy said...

Someone in my family did the they/them crap on their 6 year old.

Progressive democratic sovietism - is a cancer and a dangerous purposeful social contagion.

n.n said...

Because the lifestyle of trans/homosexual was unappealing, but the social distinction of simulant has an exotic appeal (and novel flag). #MeToo

Lem Vibe Bandit said...

Why are people pretending to believe that he believed what he said he didn't believe? And he wrote it explicitly: "I know I am not a woman."

Maybe it goes back to a recent experience we (Americans) shared that has gone unresolved?

Wikipedia: "Believe women" is an American political slogan arising out of the #MeToo movement.[1] It refers to accepting women's allegations of sexual harassment or sexual assault at face value. The phrase grew in popularity in response to the Brett Kavanaugh Supreme Court nomination.

Jude Doyle, writing for Elle, argues that the phrase means "don't assume women as a gender are especially deceptive or vindictive, and recognize that false allegations are less common than real ones."[1]

Criticisms and "Believe all women"
Rebecca Traister, writing for The Cut, calls the phrase "compelling but flawed": it is often recast as "believe all women", and used as a "deeply problematic" and "clumsy imperative" that has "enfeebled the far more important argument that we should encourage them to speak more, and listen to them more seriously when they talk".[2]

"Believe all women" is a controversial alternative phrasing of the expression. Monica Hesse writing for The Washington Post argues that the slogan has always been "believe women", and that the "believe all women" variant is "a bit of grammatical gaslighting", a straw man invented by critics so that it could be attacked, and that this alternative slogan, in contrast with "believe women", "is rigid, sweeping, and leaves little room for nuance"

n.n said...

And abortive ideation following progressive principles is celebrated in social liberal club and Democratic circles. #MeToo

RideSpaceMountain said...

"I know I am not a woman but I definitely don’t feel like a man."

Previously it was 'affirm my identity or I'll kill your kids'. Is it now 'don't affirm my identity or I'll kill your kids'? Maybe 'I don't understand my identity but affirm my lack of understanding anyway or I'll kill your kids'?

Could any tranz spokespeople kindly just explain what will keep you from killing kids short of shooting you first? Thank you for your attention to this matter.

Yancey Ward said...

For once, the social media wasn't scoured and sanitized before people made copies of it to share.

The Left is caught in a trap on this one- to play up the Westman's disavowal of his gender identity would go against the narrative that this was always a deliberate choice with no basis in biology.

Saint Croix said...

I don't understand why we are calling this person trans.

Okay, one, it's only people on the right who are talking about this. People on the left have no idea what's going on, because their media won't say anything about it.

Two, the kid tried to transition, from a man to a woman, and he failed. The liberal culture told him that this was possible. His doctors told him that this was possible. And after following their advice, and their treatment, he had severe cognitive dissonance. His ideas and his ideology was in conflict with his reality. And he was very angry about that.

I don't see why anyone wants this person to be a member of their group. What good would it do anyone to have Westman as one of their own?

Of course nobody wants this child-killer in their group. It's why the media is hiding the fact that he's trans, because it looks bad for trans people.

Howard said...

Dressed to Kill Part Two

Tacitus said...

When life imitates art it usually does so in the worst possible way. In Silence of the Lambs (book, not sure it made it into the movie) Hannibal Lector gives insight into how they'll catch "Buffalo Bill". He said most of the gender reassignment surgeries in the nation were being done at Johns Hopkins and the University of Minnesota. Check there, and see who badly failed the psych screening tests at both. Today I figure most not only accept any and all who apply, but are quietly out recruiting more. A disservice to the small numbers of people for whom this leads to a happy productive life. The others, the sad, remorseful, angry destructive people are just a side effect.

n.n said...

This boy needed to go on a camping trip, catch some fish, and fry them up in a pan. Get in touch with Nature, affirm his nature. That said, did mom want a girl?

His Choice may have been a rite unperformed. The children aborted would still have viable lives. Rest in peace. And the injured would be whole. Planned personhood is a queer confession but not a weird action.

John henry said...

What is the law in Minnesota? In some states it is illegal for a mental health professional to help a gay person, who does not want to be gay, become straight and live a normal life.

If he had gone to a pcychiatrist or psychologist and said, "I thought I was a woman, now I recognize I am not. Please help me with being a man and not a transgender" would the counselor have been legally permitted to offer help?

Or would they be required to affirm that he really is a woman?

Is help even legally available to someone like him?

John Henry

n.n said...

A similar game of see, hear, speak no evil happened with the couplet who sodomized their adopted sons. Also, the serial trans/homosexual male rape-rapist... rapist/sodomizer h/t Whoopi. The Choice to abort the "burden" of evidence to mitigate projected DEIst progressions. Migrants in England, for one. Illegal aliens, for another. Bag limits in California. Crime in DC. Trans/homosexual males grooming in progressive sects with liberal sanction. Et cetera.

That said, most people do not exercise liberal license to indulge DEIst dogma (e.g. racism, sexism) or bloc ideologies. So, Y was it done? If not for profit and leverage by special, peculiar, and Democratic interests.

Lem Vibe Bandit said...

YouTube: Robin Westman confessed he was 'tired of being trans'

YouTube: 'I wish I never brain-washed myself'

mccullough said...

Killing kids as de-transition therapy.

Saint Croix said...

Althouse, are you suggesting the Post is trying to attack innocent trans people, by suggesting Westman is trans, when he is not?

The problem with that argument is that Westman identified himself as trans ("tired of being trans"). And the other problem, of course, is all the pronoun confusion. The NYT is going with "she" and you are now going with "he."

You could go full feminist and attack the NYT for portraying a woman as a deranged killer, when he's a man. Yes?

Confusion about pronouns is synonymous with trans. There's a whole ideology at work here, and he was sucked into it.

Imagine a world where journalists investigate a school shooter, desperately trying to figure out what pronoun to use. That's the world we're in!

Steve Austin Showed Up For Work. said...

Why are we wasting time on this asshole? If we stopped talking about mass shooters, we'd stop having to talk about mass shooters. People get shot all the time in large cities all over the world and it's not international news. Don't give these lazy, loser assholes a low-effort way to finally get the attention they crave.

n.n said...

"Burden" relief lifts a burden is therapeutic h/t Obama. #NoJudgment #NoLabels #HisChoice

n.n said...

He should have chosen a scalpel, a machete, a bladed weapon to commit mass abortion. The weapon of Choice obviates the action, perhaps. There are precedents.

Saint Croix said...

Did the doctors cut his balls off when he was a minor?

I'm not going to chase an ambulance all the way to Minnesota, but I think it might be a public service to sue whatever hospital and/or doctors fucked this kid up.

n.n said...

All those kids with their cisnormal lives. Why not #MeToo?

Original Mike said...

""I know I am not a woman but I definitely don’t feel like a man." (emphasis)

I don't know what it "feels like" to be a man and I am one. How can I? I only know what it feels like to be me. Where do these people get the idea they feel like something different than they are?

Mr. D said...

n.n said...
This boy needed to go on a camping trip, catch some fish, and fry them up in a pan. Get in touch with Nature, affirm his nature. That said, did mom want a girl?


That's not how it works. I live in Minnesota and I have two adult children. Based on the interactions we have had with other families, I can think of 5 different families who have had to deal with the trans issue. One of the kids who decided he is a girl was a member of my son's Boy Scout troop; his father and older brother are both Eagle Scouts and his father was Scoutmaster for a time as well. There was nothing outwardly obvious that would have suggested this individual would become trans, but at some point things changed. We knew other kids who were scouts, a couple who were marching band kids and one who was an all-conference distance runner - all became trans for some reason or other. I didn't see any evidence of Munchausen in the parents, either. Most were male to female, but we also know of female to male trans situations as well. If you try to find common threads, you don't really see any, other than kids being immersed in a culture where if someone starts to question anything about their identity, there's a phalanx of "helpers" who leap into action.

PM said...

Isn't it rich, isn't it queer,
Losing my timing this late in my career?
And where are the clowns?
Quick send in the clowns.
Don't bother they're here.

Original Mike said...

"other than kids being immersed in a culture where if someone starts to question anything about their identity, there's a phalanx of "helpers" who leap into action."

I think it's "brainwashing". What I don't get is what do the brainwashers get out of it?

Rocco said...

phantommut said...
Are we at the end or the beginning of Heinlein's "Crazy Years"?

I think we are at the end of the beginning, at least in the US.

Achilles said...

bagoh20 said...
I'm pretty sure this person was nuts, and therefor what they say or write may not be reliable for anything other than proving they are nuts. You don't wonder why a rabid dog doesn't act normal and bites people.
Sometimes I think I might just be one bad day away from doing something insane, but 99% of the time I think that's completely impossible. I think that's normal, but if the ratio was the other way around. I would hope someone would take my guns and lock me in a hospital.


This is a perfect lead in to what I wanted to say about this.

Calling people “crazy” is not the right way to think about this.

The chemical processes we developed to control our bodies and survive in harsh environments with bears and lions around trying to eat us and the need to find food and not freeze to death are hardly understood even at a basic level.

The concept of “crazy” is just a coping mechanism by people who are embarrassed by a fellow member of their tribe acting badly. If a Republican sees someone do something bad then that person was crazy. If a democrat does something bad then democrats will just call them crazy.

It is a means to dissociate the tribe they are a part of from the results of the tribe’s community when those actions will reduce the power and prosperity of the tribe.

This is a very recent development as a member of the tribe going off and slaughtering members of a different tribe wasn’t really much of a problem until about 100-200 years ago when Anglo-Protestant culture became something better than the rest of human history.

Westman with superficial differences that appear bigger than they are would fit right in with the average Muslim Taliban tribe in Afghanistan.

tcrosse said...

If a kid has tastes or feelings that do not conform with normal gender roles, are not "heteronormative", the delusion du jour is that they need transition, not that they might be gay, God forbid. One would hope that trans mania goes out of fashion as quickly as it came in.

M Jordan said...

His saying “I know I’m not a woman” strikes me as a straight up confession that he used to make that claim.

Rocco said...

For rhhardin and Howard, a Bus Full of Nuns holding babies would definitely make the news: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ao5offHNfI

Enigma said...

@Achilles: "This is a very recent development as a member of the tribe going off and slaughtering members of a different tribe wasn’t really much of a problem until about 100-200 years ago when Anglo-Protestant culture became something better than the rest of human history."

Hmmm? Back when tribal warfare was routine? When scalping was a thing? When shrunken heads were a thing? When cannibalism was fairly common...when ancient human butchery places like Herxheim, Germany were a thing...when human sacrifies on altars were a thing in the middle-east and meso-America?

Nah. Not recent at all. It may have been disguised as religion, suppressed, or redirected into wars in the old days.

Ronald J. Ward said...

I’m no expert on gender dysphoria, intersex conditions, or related disorders, but as a child, I knew a farmer who had a 200-pound goat with both a vagina and a penis. The elder farmers speculated that its size was nature’s way of protecting it from attacks by the other goats.

Over the years, I’ve wondered if there was ever a time when a doctor had to look at a new mother and ask, “Whaddya want me to do—snip or stitch?” Raising a child who “lost the coin flip” of the snip or stitch could certainly make for awkward teenage years—for both the child and the parents.

Granted, these occurrences are extremely rare, and there are clearly multiple levels of seriousness in such conditions.

It seems to me—and I’ve argued since this latest revision of the Southern Strategy playbook stuck to the wall—that rather than turning this into a politically orchestrated attack on roughly half a percent of Americans facing these challenges—simply to pump oxygen into the so-called “war on woke,” rile up a base, or muddy public discourse—these matters would be far better left to the parents, the medical profession, and, for those who believe, God, rather than having politicians intrude into their lives.

RCOCEAN II said...

The only interesting and important thing is this: Why are so many Transgenders violent, sometime murderously so?

Otherwise, we should be centering the victims. Not the mass killer. And also the Democrat politicians who seem more interested in "Protecting Transgenders from backlash" and attacking people who are praying.

RideSpaceMountain said...

"The medical profession" is directly implicated in aiding, abetting, and even promoting the ruination of these children's lives.

Mary E. Glynn said...

One would hope that trans mania goes out of fashion as quickly as it came in.
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Or that medical treatment/HRT becomes more accepted and available to trans people. If they begin at earlier ages, it's a much easier to transition and "pass" as who you are in the body you're in...

Heartless Aztec said...

Westman didn't even want to be in his own group of one. The sad thing is that he killed others before he sent in his resignation slip for himself.

Iman said...

“If a kid has tastes or feelings that do not conform with normal gender roles, are not "heteronormative", the delusion du jour is that they need transition, not that they might be gay, God forbid. One would hope that trans mania goes out of fashion as quickly as it came in.”

Too much money to be made, stoking the insanity induced by the medical machinery, behind the fashionable flash-in-the-pan.

Immanuel Rant said...

Tat seems to be a bit out of context.

Iman said...

Among Minnesota Democrats, Democrats in Congress, and their MSM operatives, the reaction falls along the lines of…

“What terrifies me is if ISIS were to detonate a nuclear device and kill 50 million Americans. Imagine the backlash against peaceful Muslims?”

—— Norm Macdonald

BarrySanders20 said...

RJ Ward, the problem is that they (or a good percentage of they) require the participation of the rest of society to affirm their delusions. Nobody is bothered by the true medical oddity of being born with both sets of genitalia. It is the social converts with mental illness who insist on invading women's spaces (sports, bathrooms, locker rooms, jails) who must be dealt with. The parents who allow themselves to be manipulated by children and by an immoral medical community are the primary bad actors here. After adulthood I'm not sure what can be done about it by parents, but fundamentally this comes down to shitty permissive parenting.

Mrs. X said...

Others have said this but “reported” to whom? The trans police? And BY whom? The trans enforcers? WTAF

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