"... on Wednesday to once again purchase some potato-stuffed dumplings in 'an effort to try to restore community.'"
We're told there was a "large crowd" that chanted "Time to go! Go home Alan!"
"As for Dershowitz’s antisemitism claims, [the pierogi vender Krem] Miskevich noted that they are Jewish and have immediate family members in Israel, noting that friends call them 'Rabbi Krem' and that they have personal relationships with other rabbis on the island. 'Finally, we don’t back down to bullies – no matter their size,' Miskevich concluded the Tuesday night post."
There are some photos of the encounter at the link, and what jumps out at me is that Miskevich and Dershowitz are smiling at each other. Pleasantly, I think. Not villainously.
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Oh ann, bless your heart!
You see things that others never will... Were there carrots and onion rings involved?? lol . When is the last time you spoke with a person other than your husband or sons? Be honest!
Vaudeville never really died it just went retail.
Alan really needs to get laid. He's losing relevance and he knows it. "Attention Me!" It's in his blood to always be The Biggest Victim. Gals like you eat that shit up.
I just want to bitch about "they" pronouns. What the fuck. Pick a fucking sexuality already. You're not two people. What are you, Legion? Are you Satan? Pick a fucking pronoun. Seriously. I don't give a shit about your sexuality. I just want to be able to read without confusion.
Denying him service for having unsavoury clients is a more complicated argument, but it is at least as reprehensible, at least as destructive to civil society.
I suppose it would be bad form for Good Pierogi to now raise its prices.
I don't like the accusation of anti semanticism when it might be that Dershowitz is associated with Donald Trump and Epstein in his legal defense of them. I personally approve that he defended them on the principal that all are entitled to a legal defense. But TDS sufferers do not not approve any one that defends Trump.
Especially since the vendor is Jewish.
Seriously. I don't give a shit about your sexuality. I just want to be able to read without confusion.
Ah, but that's the point of the exercise. If you're confused, "they" (in both senses of the word) are dragging you into their vortex.
Saint Croix said...
I just want to bitch about "they" pronouns.
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annie hasn't posted any "get em" trans content lately. They're getting backed up with their juices, annie. Earn those tips and service your readers already. meade can't do your work for you.
"Dershowitz has also insisted that this is really about his Jewish heritage and fervent support for Israel."
One of these is prohibited discrimination, the other is not. Some folks who blur the lines between the two don't seem to appreciate that there is a cost to conflating the two. That being said, I think society is better off if folks can agree to disagree even on tense matters.
Leave them Jews alone
What is the point? I wouldn't try to go places that don't want me. Screw them.
If this doesn't violate federal civil rights law, it's got to be violating Mass civil rights laws. And I wouldn't be surprised if the Vineyard had its own even touchier/feelier civil rights laws.
Dersh would be just the guy to establish precedent that it violates civil rights laws to discriminate against your own sort.
In fact, it's necessary for the civil rights laws to work. Otherwise, for example, racist business owners could hire all black staff, or even take on black business partners, to keep black customers out.
RR
JSM
No kreplach or pelmeni?
Martha's Vineyard, eh? We thought about going over there for a day while we are here at the Cape, but decided to go to Wellfleet for clams instead. Seems like we made the right choice, those people sound obnoxious.
This reminds me of the other story from a few years ago of Dershowitz having a public argument with Larry David in a store at Martha's Vineyard. In the story Larry David yelled at Dershowitz for some of his public positions with Dershowitz pleading to renew their friendship. The story ended with Dershowitz driving off in his old Volvo. I suspect Dershowitz was the source for that story. I think Dershowitz misses the friendships and positive social interactions he used to have before he began taking some of his recent public positions.
I like MV because it attracts and isolates the people the rest of us don’t want to encounter. It’s the thing we’d make if nature didn’t create it first…
Jewish pronoun lesbians versus psycho Epstein genocider? I'm fine with heavy restrictions on the credit card companies to cut down their outsized ability to control society, but this is a baked goods vendor. Just keep shopping, Alan.
The Vault Dweller said...
I suspect Dershowitz was the source for that story. I think Dershowitz misses the friendships and positive social interactions he used to have before he began taking some of his recent public positions.
8/8/25, 7:47 AM
Larry David had a plot on his show where he (consensually) bedded down with a Palestinian woman. Perhaps he's less proud of that sketch now. Or more proud, I'm not sure.
But I've long said that most American Jews have nothing but contempt for Christian Zionists, and that is apparently extending to Jewish Netanyahu supporters. A Jew divided against himself cannot stand, in more Larry David related wisdom.
Oy vey!
Pedophile v Pierogi Seller
Pierogies: 1
Pedophile: 0
Dershowitz should claim the pierogi is for a wedding.
Everything I Don't Like Is Anti-Semitism: A Jewish Guide To Seeing It Everywhere It Doesn't Exist by Alan Dershowitz.
Various thoughts.
Yes. "What are you, Legion? Are you Satan? Pick a fucking pronoun. Seriously... I just want to be able to read without confusion."
Dershowitz next move: start a second pierogi stand called "Bad Pierogi".
What if I buy some pierogi, and then share them with Dersh in public in the presence of "them". Will I be banned from buying pierogi?
What if i buy some pierogi, and state conversationally that these are so good that I am going to ship them over to Israel so my IDF buddies can have a taste of comfort food? Will I be banned from buying pierogi?
What if I refer to "them" as "you" singular, will I be banned?
I live in the deep south of the U.S., bigotted opinions run deep, but I have never been denied service nor would anyone I know(even the most conservative christians) deny service.
The pierogi wienie is what happens when we elevate subjective internal feelings above concrete reality.
what about freedom of association
Where are all the "BAKE THE DAMNED CAKE" crowd in all this? Asking for a friend.
Maybe Dersh is losing his edge. For a lawyer he needs to pay attention to details. Didn't he ever notice the tiny weathered sign behind the deli counter?
"We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone."
Democrat Party members are a braindead mob of complete assholes who are absolutely positive that their rancid excrement smells like pure glory.
"Friends call them Rabbi Krem."
Are you a rabbi? That's a weird nickname to give a non-rabbi. Are these sarcastic friends?
A Propagation of a Propensity for Pissing on Pierogies.
If you're confused, "they" (in both senses of the word) are dragging you into their vortex.
I wonder how his wife feels about it. I was doing okay, until she got introduced. And then when I got a "we," I was like, "Is that you and your wife, or just you?" At one point, the fucker actually says "me," and I was like, "I caught you using a singular pronoun, motherfucker!" But then I got confused again. Me is you and us is you too? And who the fuck is we?
He ought to wear a T-shirt, We are the King of France.
“ they are Jewish and have immediate family members in Israel, noting that friends call them 'Rabbi Krem' and that they have personal relationships with other rabbis on the island.”
Ha, now even Jewish people have to say that some of their best friends are Jewish.
BS. Only real Pierogi is in Cleveland!
Is there an over/under bet available on how many times Dershowitz appears in the Epstein-Trump files?
The Soup Nazi
@Josephbleau, it's a poorly kept secret that lots of Jews hate each other. Did you know that in Israel a Jew who follows the rules instead of trying to bend them is known as a "freier"? Not trying to game the system is looked down upon...perhaps the diaspora isn't as forced a condition as it's made to seem.
Yes, Dersh needs to file a civil suit against Masterpiece Pierogi Shop , and maybe they can counter-sure for all that misgendering. What a festering pustule that island is. The residents are all convinced that shunning Dershowitz is a curse worse than burning hellfires, but only in support their own opinion of themselves, while normal people don't see a downside.
This episode is a good illustration of what most of the current moral panic about antisemitism in America looks like. It's shameful that the Right is buying into this stuff, when they have properly rejected appeals to racism, sexism, and other 'isms' and 'phobias'.
@Steven, ditto.
Rich people problems.
Sometimes a person just doesn't like Dershowitz. And sometimes a person on the left doesn't like Dershowitz because he's taken up the battle for people on the right so often in the last few years.
But sometimes Dershowitz gets carried away. I suspect the pierogi vendor is a leftist Jew who doesn't like Dershowitz because he's done so much battling for the right.
It's nothing more or less than that. What makes is larger is Dershowitz's ability to get press and carry any argument into the public sphere. Even one as stupid as this.
I am saddened by the loss of a friendship or a relationship with a family member because of politics. But there comes a time to move on and realize you are better off without them in your life.
What a disgrace.
I've been thrown out of bars, kicked out of a church and ordered by a Justice of the Peace never to sing, wear a union suit or ride with any livestock animal in the passenger compartment of my pickup truck, but I have never, ever been refused service at a pierogi stand.
Are you a rabbi? That's a weird nickname to give a non-rabbi. Are these sarcastic friends?
It's common in Jewish communities for wise people to acquire that term of endearment. It means "teacher" in Hebrew and a teacher can be any mentor or similar figure.
Ha, now even Jewish people have to say that some of their best friends are Jewish.
Golf clap, JB.
This episode is a good illustration of what most of the current moral panic about antisemitism in America looks like.
Bullshit. Your diminution of an ongoing gross violation of Civil Rights as "the current moral panic" says more about you than the addled old Dersh seeing antisemitism behind every slight. There is no difference between the Columbia "protests" that blocked classrooms and overtook common areas to eject Jews and George Wallace vowing to stand in the schoolhouse door in 1954. No difference at all.
Fixing this recent problem and making education truly open to all students regardless of race and ethnic makeup (both of which set many Jews apart) is not a "moral panic" so much as it is a moral imperative.
Men in Shorts!!!
If the tag has ever been needed, now is the time. My Goodness, Alan Dershowitz in cargo shorts is the reason it exists.
Bob Boyd gave us a nice country song at 9:16.
Linda Ronstadt could fit the lyrics right into "Willing."
"We're told there was a "large crowd" that chanted "Time to go! Go home Alan!"
A large crowd the size of a small crowd.
"Steven said...
This episode is a good illustration of what most of the current moral panic about antisemitism in America looks like."
I would agree that some concern about Anti-Semitism is overblown and really just people not liking other people's opinions about Israel, but I don't think it is most. I would even be fine with protests on college campuses with people chanting "From the River to the Sea." But I'm not okay with people following other people, or surrounding them, or setting up checkpoints and then chanting "From the River to the Sea." It isn't acceptable for groups of people to surround a person because that person 'looks like a Zionist," and interrogate them. This isn't even considering the violent acts of burning down a Governor's mansion, or trying to burn peaceful protestors in Colorado alive.
It seems wrong to me to refuse to sell something just because you don't like a person. It's not as if exchanging money for a tangible object requires any sort of relationship. What if grocery stores decided they wouldn't sell food to someone because they didn't like their politics?
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