July 26, 2025

"On immigration, you better get your act together or you’re not going to have Europe anymore. You got to get your act together."

"You know, last month, we had nobody entering our country. Nobody. Shut it down.... We took out a lot of bad people that got there with Biden. Biden was a total stiff. And what he allowed to happen, but you’re allowing it to happen to your countries. And you got to stop this horrible invasion that’s happening to Europe. Many countries in Europe. Some people, some leaders have not let it happen. And they’re not getting the proper credit they should. I could name them to you right now, but I’m not going to embarrass the other ones. But stop. This immigration is killing Europe." And also: "Stop the windmills. You’re ruining your countries. I really mean it. It’s so sad. You fly over and you see these windmills all over the place, ruining your beautiful fields and valleys and killing your birds. And if they’re stuck in the ocean, ruining your oceans. Stop the windmills."

Said Trump, quoted in "Trump arrives in Scotland to claim immigration is ‘killing Europe’/The US president said there had been ‘a horrible invasion’ of migrants after he landed in Scotland for a four-day visit on Friday evening" (London Times).

106 comments:

rehajm said...
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Curious George said...

Europe needs to do more than stop. They need to reverse. These Muzzies are reproducing like rabbits while the native population is not even doing replacement rates. Shortly the culture will be gone. Lots of people realizing this, protests in Ireland, Scotland, England, Spain, France, Germany.

Lucien said...

Europe is also slitting its own throat with “Net Zero” lunacy. Hard to think they can compete with anyone.

Original Mike said...

"Europe needs to do more than stop. They need to reverse."

Can you imagine a Trump-like program to return people? I can't. Europe is gone.

Thomas Andrews: The pumps will buy you time, but minutes only. From this moment, no matter what we do, Titanic will founder. … It is a mathematical certainty.

tcrosse said...

Why are all those migrants going to the UK? It can't be for the food or the weather.

Quaestor said...

The "windmills" are stopping themselves and, after torpedoing their various economies with a resounding PRANG! Europe can't afford to replace them. Good advice all 'round, I should say.

Dave Begley said...

I’m doing my part to stop the windmills in Nebraska and Iowa.

Sure hope Nebraska federal judge John Gerrard uses my quote from Althouse that I cited in my brief. “We need to keep these places beautiful in our mind and imagination.”

Judge Gerrard wrote in footnote 6 that there is no Nebraska or federal law that prevents a county from banning commercial wind. So Knox County did and I wrote the resolution!

Trump left out that unreliable wind leads to much higher electricity prices and blackouts. Also deindustrialization. They have energy poverty in Europe.

Skeptical Voter said...

Countries and cultures change with heavy immigration. I saw something yesterday that suggested that we geezers grew up in a USA that was 90% white, and that millennials have grown up in a USA that is 50% white and multiethnic. Different experiences, different cultures and a different result.

The LA Daily News had a story today about a bill introduced by California Senator Padilla, saying that he wanted to make it easier for "Americans" to get a green card. I thought Americans didn't need a green card. But then Padilla was assuming facts not in evidence. While Padilla is the "senior US Senator from California", he was "selected, not elected".

Heartless Aztec said...

Truth telling and verbal bomb throwing President of The United States. He is bad to bone.

tcrosse said...

Maybe Trump was talking about the windmills of your mind.

Oso Negro said...
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Oso Negro said...

What??? Everyone knows that a culture cannot really shine if it lacks sufficient sub-Saharan Africans and Muslims! And when they take charge of your city golden ages fall like rain from heaven

RCOCEAN II said...

If you're UK, opposing "Immigration" can get you investigated for "hate Speech" and if you riot over a "Migrant" raping or murdering someone, you'll get the book thrown at you. A woman is still serving her 3 year jail sentence for a deleted tweet.

Deep State Reformer said...

Here we have DJT once again bluntly putting his views out there as is his custom. However that said and acknowledged he's not wrong. Speak the truth and you don't have any need to recant or apologize. The EU elites are either going to reverse course on immigration or turn into multi racial police state and they know it. DJT is simply saying this out loud.

Mason G said...

Trump arrives in Scotland to claim immigration is ‘killing Europe’

Import the third world, become the third world.

tcrosse said...

How can the new migrants breed like rabbits if they're all men?

Original Mike said...

"How can the new migrants breed like rabbits if they're all men?"

Are you saying men can't have babies? Bigot.

Mark said...

I don't see windmills where we are in VA, but did see them last Fall in WV mountains. They are terrible. We have solar farms everywhere, including near some of the most historically sensitive areas in America. Need to get a handle on both...and don't get me started on "data farms."

Josephbleau said...

“How can the new migrants breed like rabbits if they're all men?”

I won’t fall into that trap.

hawkeyedjb said...

“The EU elites are either going to reverse course on immigration or turn into multi racial police state“

Wasn’t multi racial police state the goal?

john mosby said...

OM: "Can you imagine a Trump-like program to return people? I can't. Europe is gone."

It's easy if you try. Europe has a long and recent history of relocating people. With far worse than Trump-like methods.

RR
JSM

Leland said...

UK sends France $500 million to pretend to stop the migrant boats in France. France pockets the money and sends the boats on their way. Keir Stamer wouldn't have it any other way. If you think otherwise, you'll be banned from the internet.

Deep State Reformer said...

To answer hawkeyedjb 11:23 above, perhaps it was all along for some. I'll leave that for the Q Anon goofs to ponder though. You investigate how a fire starts after it's been put out first imo.

Jersey Fled said...


"Can you imagine a Trump-like program to return people?”

Maybe in Italy and Poland.

Original Mike said...

"Europe has a long and recent history of relocating people. With far worse than Trump-like methods."

Hmmm, yes. As others have noted, Trump is the worst fascist ever.

Achilles said...

Mark said...
I don't see windmills where we are in VA, but did see them last Fall in WV mountains. They are terrible.

They look even better when the fiberglass degrades and they are chopped up and shipped to the landfill.

JAORE said...

Windmills: Name a single industrialized country that can maintain itself with wind and solar. (Hint, there are none). Now add in AI, that miracle power I'm told will usher in a new era of prosperity (or make us slaves to robots). The need for additional, dependable electricity makes renewables a joke.

Unfettered immigration from 2nd (ha) and 3rd world countries: Name a single country where this has been allowed where the original country is still recognizable and has prospered. (A wag might suggest Israel.). Hint: See previous hint.

Micha said...

I always find it ironic when politicians criticize Europe and then go on vacations in Europe, like Trump, Vance and Cruz.

wild chicken said...
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Achilles said...

Leland said...
UK sends France $500 million to pretend to stop the migrant boats in France. France pockets the money and sends the boats on their way. Keir Stamer wouldn't have it any other way. If you think otherwise, you'll be banned from the internet.

The difference between the US and the UK is it took us less time to defeat our fascist enemies.

I look forward to Starmer losing the next election in historic fassion.

Rusty said...

Jersey
Poland won't let them in, in the first place.
I live in Illinoi. The state with the most nuclear reactors in the country. Why do we have miles and miles of wind farms?

Josephbleau said...

“ I always find it ironic when politicians criticize Europe and then go on vacations in Europe, like Trump, Vance and Cruz.”

I agree, foreign students that hate and protest America yet want to stay here should be sent home.

john mosby said...

Imagine there's no migrants,
It's easy if you try,
No dopers below us,
Jobs for the indigenous guy.

Imagine all the women
On the streets in peace!
Wooohoo-ooohoohooh...

You may say Trump's a dreamer,
But he's not the only one.
He hopes some day you can join us,
And the world won't live as one!

RR
JSM

Breezy said...

Douglas Murray is seeing a significant shift in British citizenry on this topic, and predicts a civil warlike atmosphere as early as this coming Fall. Deportations a la Trump are gaining more and more supporters. Let’s hope so.

n.n said...

Catastrophic Anthropogenic Immigration Reform... and, tangentially, by way of correlations to common causes and interests, the Green Blight over land, sea, and gray and clear sky.

Leland said...

Windmills are hardly the biggest problem in the UK. Windmills and solar due reduce the need for hydrocarbon powered energy. But when you then come up with the crazy idea of pumping CO2, the gas needed for plant life to strive, into deep offshore reservoirs; you'll need more than wind and solar power to operate those compressors. Net Zero is the benefit gained when you do wind, solar and carbon sequestration at the same time.

Yancey Ward said...

Trump 100% correct once again.

n.n said...

For every megawatt of intermittent energy produced by Green converters, there is a hydrocarbon or nuclear reserve to sustain system integrity and supply.

Jupiter said...

"Windmills and solar due [sic] reduce the need for hydrocarbon powered energy."
Bilge. They are so unreliable that they require 100% backup. And if, for some bizarre reason, you want to reduce the amount of CO2 we emit to produce power, there is only one possible solution. Nuclear power.

n.n said...

Emigration reform to mitigate progress at both ends of the bridge and collateral damage throughout. We need to abort and sequester the liberal license that has enabled, forced diverse modes of catastrophic change.

n.n said...

The planet is greening, nourishing with recovery of sequestered hydrocarbon through natural and human activity. Emit.

Oh, and take a day off or two with your spouse to conceive a novel carbon order. She or he is our Posterity. #LoveWins

Narr said...

As noted, the Euros pretty much wrote the book on large-scale population movements, and not all that long ago. It's entirely possible, though far from certain, that they may revert to type.

I was a bit uneasy--honestly--about traveling to Belgium last fall, but it was OK. I am now concerned about my wife's trip to Scotland and London (and Stratford-on-Avon) with some nieces and a grandniece in a few months.

Hassayamper said...

The LA Daily News had a story today about a bill introduced by California Senator Padilla, saying that he wanted to make it easier for "Americans" to get a green card. I thought Americans didn't need a green card.

This is a subtle but deliberate term of art from a Chicano revanchist who is speaking past founding-stock Americans to his own people.

In the Anglosphere we recognize 7 continents, including North and South America. When we say "America" with no further qualifications, everyone from London to Cape Town to Hong Kong to Melbourne assumes we mean the United States, and "Americans" refers to U.S. citizens. If we want to talk of North and South America as a unit, we speak of "The Americas."

But in the Spanish-speaking world, there are only 6 continents, one of which is "America". "Americanos" refers to any resident of any of the dozens of countries from Point Barrow to Tierra del Fuego. If they are speaking of U.S. citizens, they say "estadounidenses", i.e. "United Statesians". They can get pretty pissy about the distinction and resentful of English speakers who use "America" to refer to one country only.

Naturally, they should be laughed at or ignored by English speakers, especially Americans who are free to call ourselves any fucking thing we fucking like. However, the Chicano radicals have been working like termites to dispossess us of our physical and linguistic homeland, and this deliberately ambiguous phrasing is part of that project.

Lately I have been seeing it creep into the dialogue of white leftists too, especially the insufferably smug NPR tote-bag crowd. Any time you hear someone whine that "America is a CONTINENT, not a country", you can be certain you are dealing with a communist enemy cockroach who thinks white genocide is peachy keen, and who deserves to be run across the Mexican border at gunpoint.

mccullough said...

The purpose of NATO is to protect The Grift while Europe transitions to the Caliphate.

Leaders just ruin what better people built over centuries

Aggie said...

Everybody says that Trump is terrible, awful - but nobody says he's wrong.

Wince said...

Micha said...
I always find it ironic when politicians criticize Europe and then go on vacations in Europe, like Trump, Vance and Cruz.

As here, I read it as speaking to the people of Europe, criticizing the parasitic and suicidal policy direction of Europe's leaders, in an effort to MEGA.

Roughcoat said...

Alas, Babylon.

Sebastian said...

"Douglas Murray is seeing a significant shift" Too late? Even if there is a shift, it's not clear it can overcome prog PTB, courts, and bureaucrats. As in the U.S., the invasion and the environmental destruction are deliberate. The civilizational suicide is intentional.

traditionalguy said...

DJT just told the EU guys,”So let us stop talking falsely now. The hour is getting late.”

That’s plagiarism.

Leland said...

Bilge. They are so unreliable that they require 100% backup.

Apple and oranges. I never said wind or solar replaces hydrocarbon electrical sources. But they do reduce the amount of hydrocarbon needed. This has been proven. In Texas, on nice weather days, 50% of electricity is produced by wind.
Now before you write anything else I didn’t say. If you want to claim it takes a lot of resources including hydrocarbons to manufacture, install, and maintain wind and solar farms, I don’t disagree. If you want to claim it is more than they save, bring numbers. If you think I prefer wind and solar, find a quote from me that supports your absurd beliefs.

Lem Vibe Bandit said...

I came across this before I temporarily departed Reddit.
It took time for societies to develop the rules of the road for example. Here is what happens when large amounts of arrivals (without those rules) cant literally even move. "A roundabout without signals works in high-trust societies where people naturally yield and take turns."

The child sex grooming is at the other extreme.

Temujin said...

Well...he's not wrong. Unless there is some kind of pushback, I do think that we'll see a combination of Sharia law in both England and France. Ireland is showing some signs of fighting back, but I dunno. Belgium is almost toast. Sweden is teetering. And Germany...I suspect that if there is a battle for Europe, this is where it'll begin in earnest.

The numbers don't lie. The native born in these countries are well below replacement rate while the Muslim populations are growing 3 fold. The positioning of the Muslim populations- very aggressively taking over major streets, plazas, committing heinous crimes without having to answer for it, pushing to have their ways take hold. Dogs disallowed in certain areas. The adhan call drifting across the major cities. Areas of the great cities where the local police are literally too afraid to patrol, not to mention the people on the street no longer going there.

So...Europe may already be partially gone. Trump is not wrong to state it out front. He's simply saying what everyone there knows, though most dare not speak it. If you do so in the UK, you'll get a visit from the police. THAT, they'll prosecute.

Trump would have pissed off the society across Europe in any time, last century or this one. He's the walking exaggeration of the 'brutish American'. Many here love that about him.

NKP said...

It's do or die time for Europe.

Lazarus said...

Britain decided not to be a part of "Europe." But even without that, is it really so strange that politicians who are critical of Britain or Europe visit there? Britons and Europeans who are critical of their countries' governments don't stop living there. The countries aren't just their current governments (or their EU overlords). There's more to them than that.

I can imagine sending illegals back. It isn't hard to do. Whether that (and restricting inflow) will be enough is harder to say.

Shouting Thomas said...

Not on topic. X is now full of videos of liberal white women fighting with and taunting ICE agents as they try to make arrests.

John henry said...

Orians Fallaci was raging about "Eurabia" 30 years ago. Her books "the rage and the pride" and "force of reason" my be the best writing ever on the subject of uncontrolled immigration.

At the time of her death she was under indictment for "defamation of Islam" in Italy and living in exile in nyc

John Henry

John henry said...

Oddly, when I went to Wikipedia to check the books there was no mention of the indictment. Nor did several other articlesWondering if I was misremembering, I dug sleeper. None of the bits mentioned it.

I did confirm my memory her, though


https://review.capitalismmagazine.com/2005/05/oriana-fallaci-guilty-of-being-offensive-to-islam/

Maybe it is, to paraphrase Wilde, "the rage that dare not speak its name"

Certainly not in England or Scotland theses days where a mean tweet about invaders can get you jailed.

There is no way I'd visit England. I've said some mean things about King Chuck and their hypothetical constitution. Nothing much but possibly criminal these days.

John Henry

Old and slow said...

Many of the Irish are getting very sick of immigration, but so far at least, no one in government has even the slightest inclination to clamp down on it. Many of the politicians are getting rich providing housing to the asylum seekers. Former tourist towns like Lisdoonvarna are virtually empty of tourists this year because all the hotels have been converted to asylum housing.

John henry said...

Believers in windmills should read about the weeks long outage in Broken Hill AU last fall.

250-300mw of wind and solar for a peak demand of 38.w,avg demand @25mw.

When a transmission line carrying conventionally (rotational) generated juice went down, all that wind/solar couldn't provide a single watt to the town or anywhere else.

The outage in Spain a few months back seems to have been similar. Too much synthetic AC, electric, not Enough rotational

John Henry

Aggie said...

"...The positioning of the Muslim populations- very aggressively taking over major streets, plazas, committing heinous crimes without having to answer for it, pushing to have their ways take hold....."

Elections, mate. Elections have consequences. Look at the cross-section of civil governments with lowly, sparsely-contested positions. School board, housing authorities, etc. Then in the next election, the new Muslim politician moves up in the system to a new position, more authority, etc. Look at Minneapolis in the US - or any city, in Europe. Look toward the ghettos - they're not getting smaller.

John henry said...

David Begley,

You are doing God's work out there opposing wind. I listened to the podcast interview a couple days ago. Nicely done but I forget the name of the podcast. Nice plug for this blog, too.

I liked the way you discussed best economic use of land. Excellent point that needs to be made more often

Some to that most people miss is the problems caused by mixing synthetic (inverted DC) and True(rotational) AC at utility scale. You should mention that when opposing wind and solar.

effinayright said...

Micha said...
I always find it ironic when politicians criticize Europe and then go on vacations in Europe, like Trump, Vance and Cruz.
*********
Why? Do you think "Europe" is a homogeneous continent, all of it and everywhere subject to criticism?

SNORT

John henry said...

Leland,

When you say "carbon" sequestration it is clear that you mean co2.

So why say carbon? It is obvious you know the difference so it is disinformation. My question is why?

I refuse to take anyone seriously who pretends C and CO2 are the same thing.

For the folks in Portland, carbon is a solid. The only way it gets into the air is as fine particulates and such as does get into the air settles out by gravity in 10-14 days or less.
Atmospheric carbon is even closer to zero than atmospheric CO2. 0.000000000000000000001% or so.

John Henry

BUMBLE BEE said...

Lem Vibe Bandit... Back in the 60's my brother was toolin around France in a deuce and a half at the behest of Uncle Sam. The stories he told of the "roundabouts" kept us in stitches! He was able to negotiate with the locals almost solely because his front bumper was at their eyebrow height in their tiny Simcas.

BUMBLE BEE said...

Polite they weren't.

Rocco said...

traditionalguy said...
DJT just told the EU guys, ‘So let us stop talking falsely now. The hour is getting late.’ That’s plagiarism.

I don’t think Jimi Hendrix will mind that someone borrowed that line from his famous song.

Rocco said...

Decolonize Europe Now!

The settler-colonizers gotta go back to their home countries.

Original Mike said...

"So why say carbon? It is obvious you know the difference so it is disinformation. My question is why?"

Maybe the same reason you use "m" for thousand. Personal preference. We all know what he means. Right?

Original Mike said...

"Some to that most people miss is the problems caused by mixing synthetic (inverted DC) and True(rotational) AC at utility scale. You should mention that when opposing wind and solar."

Absolutely, David, if you're not doing so already. This is a life-threatening risk.

Achilles said...

Shouting Thomas said...
Not on topic. X is now full of videos of liberal white women fighting with and taunting ICE agents as they try to make arrests.

Extended periods of jail time might help these stupid women out.

Mason G said...

"X is now full of videos of liberal white women fighting with and taunting ICE agents..."

If they're actually fighting, punching them in the nose wouldn't be out of order.

Hassayamper said...

If they're actually fighting, punching them in the nose wouldn't be out of order.

Nor would smacking them hard enough with a billy club to knock them to the ground.

Mouthy, coddled liberal white women who've never been in an actual fight in their entire lives will shut up and go away the instant they get some painful pushback.

n.n said...

Liberal women are leaving their posts at Planned Parenthood corporation, endangering the performance of human rites and the capital deaths of Diverse babies. Shame.

John henry said...

No, original Mike, it is a lie (since he does know the difference)

k & m are synonyms (1,000) both in common, daily use. Either is acceptable

Carbon is an element. It is a solid in its normal state.

CO2 is a compound normally a gas.

NOT synonymous. Not anything like one another.

It is not even simpler to write carbon (6 keystrokes) than co2 (3)

It is propaganda pure and simple. CO2 is colorless odorless, puts foam in our drinks, makes bread rise, puts out fires, grows plants. It is hard to make people think of it as harmful much less a pollutant.

Carbon is by definition dirty. Synonyms include soot and smut. It is coal and graphite and the ingredient in black paint.

So let's scare the punters by lying about dirty, nasty CARBON!!! in the atmosphere being a problem.

It is propaganda pure and simple. Leland, and there's wh knowingly misuse "carbon" are propagandists.

Unless you have another reason, Leland? I'm all ears.

John Henry

Original Mike said...

"Carbon is by definition dirty. "

Only in your mind, John Henry.

John henry said...

I've worked with gases, compressed and atmospheric since the 60s.

It is not incorrect but it is exceedingly rare to see gas mixtures expressed in ppm.

Nobody talks about 780,000ppm of atmospheric nitrogen. It's always expressed as a percentage. Even trace gasses like argon (. 8%) or hydrogen (0.0000005%) are normally expressed as parts per hundred or "percent"

Except co2. Because 400 ppm which most people have no idea what it means looks much scarier than 0.04% which everyone understands and which doesn't look scary at all.

Again, pure propaganda

John Henry

John henry said...

So you are saying soot, smut, coal, graphite are not dirty, OM?

Sounds like you've never seen or handled any.

John Henry

Original Mike said...

Yeah, right. I've never handled coal or graphite. 🙄

I'm saying carbon isn't dirty. It's an atom, fundamental to the molecules upon which all life is based.

Is diamond dirty? Pure carbon.

wildswan said...

Just let me know where they are sequestering the pure carbon (diamonds). I thouht we were digging it up.

ga6 said...

I would like to see Donald stand in London and say "Sure glad Ma left"

Gospace said...

FYI, CAMS (Central Air Montoring System) aboard submarines monitors gasses other then oxygen in PPM, oxygen in percentage. So for trace gasses I'm used to thinking in PPM. Why percentage for O2? Determines flammibility if above normal limits, and whether there's enough to support life at lower limits.

Craig Mc said...

I wouldn't be surprised if he was greeted like a liberator.

n.n said...

Donald Trumps the handmade tales brayed by transhumane minions with a DEIst bent and dreams of redistributive and retributive change.

n.n said...

Green machetes are an environmental blight and first-order anthropogenic forcings of climate change with local and regional effects. We need reasonable blade control, and energy production diversity without Equivocation and Inequity.

Peachy said...

The same evil forces that let in millions of illegals here are working in Europe.

Jersey Fled said...

Correct me if I’m wrong, but aren’t humans carbon based life forms.

At least that’s what Captain Kirk said.

Kakistocracy said...

The thing about windmills is that Trump is in the Epstein files.

n.n said...

The aliens judged and labeled humans as bags of mostly water, lives unworthy of dignity and life. Diversity blocs, interchangeable, transpositional, disposable.

chuck said...

The planet is greening, nourishing with recovery of sequestered hydrocarbon
I call it recycling. We are all in favor of recycling, right?

Dave Begley said...

John Henry.

The podcast is called, “The Heart of Rural America.” The hostess is Amanda Radke.

Thanks for the kind words.

And, yes, the Left has made hay with a trace gas.

DDB

Rocco said...

"Carbon is by definition dirty.

Only in your mind.


A google search for “carbon porn” did indeed return several results. That’s as far as I took my research.

Original Mike said...

Rule 34

Jamie said...

The thing about Trump being in the Epstein files is that, like a lot of other people, Trump is only IN the Epstein files, and also, Obama conspired to usurp the presidential authority of his successor.

bagoh20 said...

"The aliens judged and labeled humans as bags of mostly water, lives unworthy of dignity and life. Diversity blocs, interchangeable, transpositional, disposable."

Thanks for the shout out.

Leland said...

It is obvious you know the difference so it is disinformation. My question is why?

Because my comments were what I usually have to argue with my British coworkers, who use such terms and believe such things.

Leland said...

Jupiter and JSM; the problem is the British education system has convinced decades of students that not only is global warming caused by humans, but they must act now. You can't just tell them they are crazy, because they'll just respond you are immoral. They are smart people that have been brainwashed to believe things.

My opinion hasn't changed. The first time I heard progressives use the term "Carbon tax"; I knew exactly what they wanted. I know organic chemistry. A carbon tax means the ability to tax every living thing on earth. That's what they want, or they would, as you suggest JSM, use more precise language. Even if they did, regarding CO2; that's an essentially element for plant life to flourish.

They do have some decent points about hydrocarbon use. People like to believe it is limitless, but it isn't. We have plenty to last our lifetimes, and likely are children, but reducing our dependence or rather our magnitude of use will extend that period. I'm sure you guys understand this and would point to nuclear. I do. But to argue with them, you need rational arguments. You have to show them stuff like Net Zero is a self-licking ice cream cone, which requires so much energy to pump CO2 in the ground that the only Net Zero is any benefit it provides. The original plan for the Teesside facility was a coal power plant that would capture 100% of its CO2 and use 60% of its rated power to pump all that CO2 and whatever they could get from nearby factories into an offshore reservoir. It was that silly, so they decided to use wind instead of coal, which has required far more land than they expected. And you want to know the most insidious thing; they chose to build the facility at the location of UK's last steel mill, making sure the UK no longer had the ability to produce its own steel.

n.n said...

Along with planned parenthood, Levine's Dreams, dysfunctional orientations, Diversitism,etc, CAIR is another layer in the critical replacement conspiracy.

Mason G said...

"We have plenty to last our lifetimes, and likely are children, but reducing our dependence or rather our magnitude of use will extend that period."

The people you're talking about don't want to extend that period, they want to end it.

bagoh20 said...

Our descendants will look back on the Climate change concerns and overreaction as another dead-end historic mass hysteria. Technology will solve the problem whether it's real or not. We will gradually transition for a multitude of reasons, and the hysteria is just one of them - the one that creates massive fraud and mistakes before real science, reason, and the market place to work it out. Fear and anger is entirely misplaced and unhelpful except when directed at the fraud, theft and hatred.

Leland said...

I agree Mason, but we got to reach them and teach them. I guess though, maybe they'll dump the stupidity for another one, the race for AI and the energy hungry data centers.

Mason G said...

"I agree Mason, but we got to reach them and teach them."

It's like a religion for a lot of them, attempts at teaching probably won't help too much. Aside from keeping True Believers away from the levers of power, I don't know what the answer is.

Tim said...

All along the Watchtower is by Dylan.
Wind mills do produce power, just less than the input besides being unreliable.

Achilles said...

bagoh20 said...
Our descendants will look back on the Climate change concerns and overreaction as another dead-end historic mass hysteria. Technology will solve the problem whether it's real or not. We will gradually transition for a multitude of reasons, and the hysteria is just one of them - the one that creates massive fraud and mistakes before real science, reason, and the market place to work it out. Fear and anger is entirely misplaced and unhelpful except when directed at the fraud, theft and hatred.

It will be pointed out the it was an attempt by globalist bureaucrats to control people through control over oil and energy.

It will be an object lesson for generations on how institutions corrupt science in order to obtain power.

Mike (MJB Wolf) said...

You think defining carbon is difficult? Try getting a definition of “Epstein files” from da kak!

Mike (MJB Wolf) said...

I’m with John Henry on this one. All of the common solid forms of carbon are dirty. Highly useful but dirty when handling. Ironically it’s also excellent at filtering water and air in activated form. Quite the building block.

Kirk Parker said...

Leland,

I am a very strong believer in the maxim, "He who controls the term of the debate, controls the debate."

While it is perfectly fine to use your colleagues' terminology while starting out, if you keep using it throughout the discussion you just validate the scam.

I would prefer to use their terms;0/only to dispute the very premise: "This is a tax on emission of carbon dioxide; why do you call it 'carbon tax' instead of 'carbon dioxide tax'? You do know that carbon dioxide contains more than twice as much oxygen by atomic weight than it does carbon - - so if you really do need to abbreviate the term, wouldn't it be more accurate to call it 'oxygen tax' instead of 'carbon tax'?

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