"... and that the United States should stop arming the Jewish state, according to new polling from a pro-Palestinian group.... Asked if the city should 'enforce the arrest warrant' against Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, which Democratic mayoral nominee Zohran Mamdani supports, 63% of primary voters said yes."
Semafor reports, in "Poll: New York Dems side with Mamdani on Israel, Netanyahu."
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Close your eyes and imagine.
"NYC's boy mayor has Bibi arrested at airport."
Then what? It's when you get to "then what?" that the problems with this policy fully become apparent.
If NYC is stuck on stupid, the Federal government should do everything in their playbook to make NYC suffer adverse consequences in all matters of funding, etc.
According to a Palestinian poll? That's like a poll asking Nazi's if Jews are responsible for Germany's problems.
Primary voters comprise a very small subset of the population, and we know who they are: rabid bug-eyed lefties.
- Krumhorn
"Israel is 'committing genocide' in Gaza..."
i assume this is the Jamie Lee Curtis type of "genocide"?
The NYC primary voters think Israel is performing plastic surgeries?
NYC can’t arrest foreign leaders. If they could, there would be no UN in NYC.
Chris said...
"..a Palestinian poll? That's like a poll asking Nazi's if Jews are responsible for Germany's problems."
there are people on X right now, saying:
"The Joooze must have Done SOMETHING to make hitler do that"
i suppose we could ask some posters HERE that?
"were The Jooze asking for it?"
Israel and the wests continual mistake is fighting “wars” without total force. This should have been over months ago, Gaza reduced to absolute rubble and unfortunately the hostages would probably have perished as well. But like Hiroshima, you can not negotiate with radicals like Hamas. You must crush them mercilessly.
Antisemitism is legal. You beat it by refuting it, not banning it.
Jews unfortunately are wedded to seeing antisemitism everywhere whether it's there or not as a way to produce alienation and suppress (somewhat) assimilation, thus preserving the religion.
Part of that is playing the Holocaust card as a political privilege move, without much thought. That's what locks them out of making a good argument against antisemitism. The Palestinians have their own Holocaust card and that one appeals to the left on campus because it invoves stupid brown people instead of smart white people.
An end run saying that we must ban antisemitism from the right wing isn't making an argument either.
Try finding nice things to say about Jews instead. It's not hard. They treat sick Palestinians in Israeli hospitals. They repeatedly offer mutually beneficial trade to Palestinians and each time Hamas blows it up or shoots it down. Why do Jews do this? It's a commandment. Take care of the other guy. Every fact about God is a commandment: God is merciful means be merciful like Him.
Jewish Messianism (Sanhedrin 98b-99a) says every man is the Messiah. The Messiah has already come because Jews have come. Who takes on the suffering of the world if not the being who says "Me"?
Additionally the Jew's position is every man's position. Every man is a Jew.
Now try to find something nice to say about Palestinians. You can't.
There's your argument against antisemitism. The war is authorized by a right to self-defense, not by the Holocaust. Keep that straight.
These losers will vote for Hamas-Nazi Mamdani and kill their city with crime and communism.
Hey - but with any luck - the mayor of NYC can arrest bibi.
If Israel wanted to commit genocide - Gaza would be gone in a few hours.
Dave Begley said...
NYC can’t arrest foreign leaders. If they could, there would be no UN in NYC.
You say "There would be no UN in NYC" like it's a bad thing.
1863 NYC rioted for the South and Slavery. Lincoln had to treat the city as in revolt and occupied it with Federal troops. What goes around comes around.
Hamasidoloters.
Rape, torture, abduction, and abortive ideation are not an ethical vice.
New Yorkers are about to elect a socialist version of Karen Bass to run their city. He'll be both incompetent and economically illiterate. But as an added touch, he'll remove Jews from the city. Well...maybe not remove them so much as make them disappear from polite society.
Meanwhile, Israel seems to be the only country in the world who realizes who the West is up against. The UK- as you know it- will vanish within a decade, and New Yorkers will wonder aloud at what happened.
Ch-Ch-Ch-Ch-Ch-Changes
America will survive the Jews.
If we stick to our First Amendment, we don't have to demand people follow our religion or die. Poor Jewish religious state has to make war on the world's religions to survive; "the West" never had to do that the way poor Israel does struggling to survive today...
Come join us, say the Catholics. No pressure.
It's good you have this "safe space" for your fellas, ann.
Remember to leave the doors open to air it out...
Israel is losing.
What do you think the polls of the Midwest would be?
Not Madison... outside where there are few Jewish people supporting the religious state, but everybody has to kick in for their "defense" in perpetuity, it seems...
What do you think the numbers in the Christian hinterlands look like ann? You can't see it from your "remote outpost" yet, I suspect...
NYC deserves what they will be voting for.
"...according to new polling from a pro-Palestinian group...."
Once again proving my hypothesis that opinion polling is more accurately referred to as opinion farming. From this article, we can conclude that Semafor is in the tank for Mamdani, as is the rest of the NYC-based media. And you can believe it ! Because Semafor has the words "Intelligent", "Transparent", and "Global" right across the top !
Don't read it, unless you want to blow chunks.
After 9/11 some people said Osama Bin Laden/Al Qaeda attacked the US from Afghanistan in order to draw the US into a quagmire there like the one the Russians found themselves in, to bleed America slowly and to get them to eventually abandon the moral high ground out of frustration and desperation. It worked to some degree in terms of bleeding us, but we didn't entirely abandon the moral high ground. We maintained ROE that many in the military argued were far too strict.
I wonder if the goal of Hamas and their allies with regard to the October 7th attacks was the same basic strategy used against Israel. Being perceived by the wider world as holding the moral high ground has always been one of Israel's greatest assets. It seems the information warfare component in the West was ready to go after October 7th.
If that was the strategy, is it working? Are the Israelis winning the battle in Gaza, but losing the war?
Like Brandon and the teachers union, kicking the Jews out of nyc, and the corrupt Somalis in Minneapolis, democrat leadership supports collapse of the economy thinking it will bring in the golden age in the long term, and make them rich in the short term.
"i assume this is the Jamie Lee Curtis type of "genocide"?
You can spot the Mossad by the wax lips.
One assumes this poll includes a lot of people that don't know what river or what sea is meant by "From the River to the Sea".
As to the meaning of that some embrace it others deny it and a third group are clueless.
They believe israel is committing genocide, because they are committing genocide. I've read the death toll is up to 100,000. Which is insane. Bibi is war criminal and should be in jail.
The Israeli soldiers are now shooting kids waiting for food aid. They are bombing Catholic churches. Nazi like. Hitler = Bibi = Hitler. Trump needs to step in and tell Bibi to stop.
The the reduction of the warsaw ghetto was a picnic compared to Gaza Genocide.
It's not genocide, but it's perhaps overkill. The Israeli response should be disproportionate. A disproportionate response perhaps makes their enemies ponder whether the joy of killing Israelis is worth the pain that Israel will inflict on them. But there's a balance to be had. The response should kill more terrorists than it creates, and the response should not alienate too many of their allies. A tricky equation to balance. The past record doesn't argue for leniency. Perhaps they'll have better luck with overkill, perhaps not.
On polls (and on those silly "find out your ideology" political quizzes) people aren't so much answering the question as taking a side. Some are taking a side for the Palestinians or against Israel. Others are saying that what's been going on in Gaza has been taking too long and has gone too far, whether or not it actually qualifies as genocide.
It might be harsh and cold, but I think the Gazans are getting exactly what they deserve after October 7 2023. If the rest of the world doesn't like it, they can send ships and pick up the Gazans and take them to live in their own countries.
Of course they do. Abortion, maiming surgery for children, open borders, socialism…. Why not antisemitism justified by media accounts of Hamas claims and ignorance of the demographics of Gaza and the meaning of “genocide”? Democrats are ruining the US.
OTOH, why believe Pro-Palestinians about anything?
About 1/3 of registered Democrats voted in the NYC primary and more than 1/3 of the voters for Cuomo who is pro-Israel last I checked. Democratic primary voters have been showing poor judgement for the last 50 years.
He’s the Man With the Stimpy Smile.
Release the hostages, you murderous, raping, entirely inhuman,
villainous scum.
@ Yancey 10:43
Spot on. Agree.
Humanity is tribal. Ethnicity and race is tribal. Class is tribal. Sports affiliations are tribal. Ideas are tribal, both religious and political. Tribalism is both a genetic and psychic absolute and Will always result in terrible conflict.
Another absolute is self preservation. The results of which are seen in Gaza.
Its amazing how Zionists will never defend Israel's actions.
What they will do is derail (whataboutism) and smear. And they always want to frame Jews as the center of the discussion. Suddenly, a discussion of Gazans/ Palestinians dying by the thousands and IDF warcrimes, becomes a discussion of antisemitism or Hamas or the poor hostages.
I'm sure Himmler used the same tactic. "Hey, what about those poor Germans killed in the Warsaw Ghetto, why are you siding with Jewish Terrorists?" one can imagine himmler saying.
Probably the biggest low in this disgusting mess was reached by some "Christian" called Joel Berry who defended the Israelis bombing a Catholic Church in Gaza. His response? the Catholic Gazans deserved it, and are all going to hell because they "Support Hamas". Cause that's what Jesus would say.
Genocide. An overused word, used incorrectly, and no longer has any meaning.
The Palisymps never address what started this war… the atrocities committed… none of it. They dismiss it ALL and expect others to not notice their fucked up logic.
Anyone who believes that Israel is comitting genocide against the Palestinians obviously doesn't understand the meaning of the word, genocide.
If Israel was actually comitting genocide against the Palestinians, they would be trying to kill Palestinians in the West Bank and in Israel. Israel is specifically targeting Hamas in Gaza and, unfortuantely in war, some civilians are getting killed.
This simply a war; not a genocide.
Considering that the IDF has the capability of leveling all of Gaza a thousand times over, this has to be the lamest genocide in history
Genocide? What is Genocide exactly? Oh, its all so grey, fuzzy, and complicated. LOL!
The Nazis could have killed every Jew in their reach but only killed six million. So, nobody called it Genocide.
The number of Arab Countries supporting Gaza is nearly zero. Why is that?
You do not get to dictate the response of your enemy after you attack them. Israel has kept the lights on and the food flowing into Gaza for many years. That is over now. The people of Gaza made a terrible mistake, and now they demand our sympathy and expect us to believe their bullshit. They deserve all that has come to them.
No surprises in those polling results even recognizing that NYC is the most heavily Jewish center in the US. The great sorting between Team D and Team R continues apace, as Team D leans into the race/gender/identity/settler colonialist shtick and Team R heads in the opposite direction.
“The Nazis could have killed every Jew in their reach but only killed six million. So, nobody called it Genocide.”
6,000,000 here, another million there and pretty soon, you’re talking a for realz atrocity… amirite Ocean?
Since when is it the responsibility of the victors in a war started by the losers to feed said losers? I call bullschiff!
1945?
"6,000,000 here, another million there and pretty soon, you’re talking a for realz atrocity… amirite Ocean?"
I have no idea what the fuck this means, or how it relates to my sarcastic post. But, that's par for course. Either zionists just make up crap, or they play dumb. Its always a rhetorical trick, never a defense of Israel.
Yancey Ward said..."If the rest of the world doesn't like it, they can send ships and pick up the Gazans and take them to live in their own countries."
I expect that the French and the British are thinking about it.
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