
The left-wing ideology says the right-wing ideology is an even longer con.
Everyone's ideology says the other side's ideology is a con.
Overheard on the street during the Wisconsin protests of 2011: "All the assholes are over on the other side."
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One side is being honest about it… and it ain’t the Left.
The road leading to Bankruptcy is paved with public employees.
Which is why we have a CONstitution.
If you believe that both the left and the right manipulate the law to suit their political ends (they do, and the Founders knew they would), you should be wary of legal doctrines which stray far from the basic principles enshrined in the Constitution.
The left wants to re-interpret the Constitution as a "living document." What does that tell you?
The long march through the institutions is a well-known phenomenon—churn out left-wing teachers to churn out left-wing graduates to populate left-wing institutions.
The law is no exception. Law schools have been pumping out left-wing attorneys for decades. It was inevitable that they would filter up to the judiciary.
All's fair in lust and abortion.
AG's going after Trump.
Elizabeth Colorado - 19 books in the school library are filled with graphic stories of incest between a man an his daughter. (read aloud).. Hints on how to commit suicide, other graphic sexual encounters... and the ACLU(D) is fighting to force the school to keep those books on the shelves.
And the same leftist a-holes cannot shut-up about their obsession with Trump and his past. He's a grown man.
The true long con is that your brother or your sister is your enemy, is somehow in your way to happiness and wellbeing, and must therefore be subjugated by coercion, or made to disappear.
I always love how people on the Right, and the Center-Right, love to generalize and turn everything into an abstraction. Yeah, the Left took over the law schools and turned out leftwing lawyers. And then appointed them to the Federal Judiciary.
And so what?
The concrete problem, right here, right now, is we have a out-of-control Federal Judiciary that is encroaching on the power of the Executive branch. Its lead by Leftwing judges who are "results orienatied". These characters are using their power to the utmost. Hoping they're going to stop on their own, or waging fingers at them, will accomplish nothing.
Niether will making vague statements about "The constitution" or "Government employees". Congress and Trump must act. What's the plan? Cause that's what we need.
Is there really any good reason to treat the corrupted judiciary, including the Supreme Court, as the co-equal third branch of the federal government? They have in fact become a super-committee of Congress. Pre-vetted for the reliability of their votes for certain specific issues regardless of the plain meaning of the constitution. Selected and installed by the party in power. Able to misinterpret existing laws. Able to make up laws on the fly as needed. And able to veto the President if and when they feel like it.
Exactly where in the constitution were all those powers enumerated? And why do we still need it or want it?
I predict that, when the Voter ID law that overwhelmingly passed last night is challenged before WI Supreme Court, Crawford will vote to override the popular will. If so, that tells me who is weaponizing the Judiciary.
As for the constitution, its just a piece of paper. Unless you have people with POWER who are willing to ACT, it means nothing. The liberal/left abandoned "The constitution" a long time ago. Scalia was writing about the Liberal/leftists on the Court rendering opinions "Untethered to the Constitution" - 30 years ago.
Congress created almost 700 district court judges and allows them to have almost unlimited power to do anything. Including issuing nation-wide injuctions, and blocking the POTUS from doing almost anything. That's nowhere in Constitution. Neither is abortion. Or busing. Or pretending "Prayer in school" is "establishing a religion".
How this judicial supremacy benefits the country or the average American is unclear to me. But 'muricans love it!
It's not 20 years, more like 50 or ever since Roe.
I reject your Bothsidesim...
An example of some bull that is going to come down from the courts -- Wisconsin just passed a voter id requirement. No way will liberal judges (it only takes one) allow the Wisconsin legislature to align voter id requirements for in-person voting and voting by mail. Most people who vote by mail are exempt from voter id requirements and they will remain so. So congratulations Wisconsin voters - you played yourselves. You accomplished absolutely nothing by passing voter id.
19 books in the school library are filled with graphic stories of incest between a man an his daughter. (read aloud).. Hints on how to commit suicide, other graphic sexual encounters... and the ACLU(D) is fighting to force the school to keep those books on the shelves
Incest is a sexual orientation legal under Democratic law. #NoJudgment #NoLabels
[Selfie-]abortion is an ethical Choice under progressive principles to be subsidized in liberal democracies.
American Civil Liberties Unburdened
Assuming for the moment that this argument is in good faith, then what is the conservative 'con'? We know what the progressive 'con' is, because it's been described exhaustively: subverting language, re-purposing words to trick. Refusing to prosecute known crimes; Defining 'justice' as something that can be systemically structured outside of the legal system, or outside of legislated law; Institutionalized and sanctioned violence, rioting, arson, assault, etc; Lawfare; Corporate shakedowns for 'justice'. etc. etc. So: again, in good faith, what is the conservative 'long con' please?
The lawyer's guilds weren't taken over 20-30 years ago. More like 100 years ago. They were the first institutions to be captured by the Long March.
The Democrats are a lawyer's guild engaged in a criminal conspiracy disguised as a political party.
Here's a list of every Democrat Presidential and Vice Presidential candidate for the last 42 years:
Kamala - Lawyer
Walz - Not a lawyer!
Biden - Lawyer
Hillary - Lawyer
Kaine - Lawyer
Obama - Lawyer
Kerry - Lawyer
Edwards - Lawyer
Gore - Failed law divinity school
Lieberman - Lawyer
Clinton - Lawyer
Dukakis - Lawyer
Bentsen - Not a lawyer!
Mondale - Lawyer
Ferraro - Lawyer
Conversely, the Republicans are pretty much the opposite of this, it's all "Not a Lawyer" until recently with a few exceptions: Dan Quayle had a law degree but never practiced, Romney had a JD-MBA and never practiced, and Bob Dole was a lawyer among like 4 other major professions. In recent years, though, it's turning into both sides. Both Pence and Vance are lawyers.
Isn't it weird how every other kind of conceivable government has a name - democracy, oligarchy, technocracy, etc. etc. - but the one we actually have, rule by lawyers, doesn't have one?
Overheard on the street during the Wisconsin protests of 2011: "All the assholes are over on the other side."
Of course the supporters of Roe v. Wade are going to resort to bothsideism.
They don't have any kind of reasonable argument so they pretend the people with an actual argument based on the actual words in the constitution are assholes too.
We aren't assholes. We have a 3 sentence argument that is clear and the intent is obvious.
The abortion supporters made up a penumbra of bullshit and whine about finally losing. This is the same pattern on every issue.
The Leftist Pharisees pretending to be judges are just the second legislative branch and the reason 4 billionaires piled in millions of dollars to get Crawford elected is they know she will just make up bullshit to keep the mail in vote fraud going in Wisconsin.
MartyH said...
I predict that, when the Voter ID law that overwhelmingly passed last night is challenged before WI Supreme Court, Crawford will vote to override the popular will. If so, that tells me who is weaponizing the Judiciary.
This is clear as day.
The people of Wisconsin want voter ID. Everyone that believes in the United States as a country wants voter ID.
4 Billionaire Democrats used millions of dollars to set up a mail in vote harvesting system to get a judge elected they know will take that law out some way somehow.
They couldn't take the voter ID law head on just like they can't take what DOGE is doing head on. These things are overwhelmingly popular with voters.
So they resort to Judges.
As a resident of Wisconsin, I offer the observation that this result is less about a "liberal surge" than a rejection of political extremism. Those of us in the Midwest still find value in government that works and in taxation that delivers tangible results (clean streets, successful schools and safe neighborhoods). I don't consider these particularly "liberal" or "conservative" values -- merely indicative that the political center has its charms despite the boorish voices on either side of the political spectrum telling us otherwise.
"every other kind of conceivable government has a name - democracy, oligarchy, technocracy, etc. etc. - but the one we actually have, rule by lawyers, doesn't have one?" Juristocracy?
"A filibuster is a political procedure in which one or more members of a legislative body prolong debate on proposed legislation so as to delay or entirely prevent a decision....."
What bill was Booker filibustering, and on what grounds?
There may have been some political judicial decisions on the right, but nothing recently to rival the corrupt array in federal district courts and state courts against Trump, his supporters and his Article II actions. The corruption is aggravated by the shamelessness that is becoming the hallmark of Democrats across the board. I am not embarrassed for having been a Democrat for most of my adult life, but I would be embarrassed to be one now.
Peter Spieker: "Juristocracy?"
Nice! Thank you. I've posted my list up there dozens of times including that observation but no one ever pointed that one out before. I do indeed find it in non-trivial usage in a search. Thanks.
In my defense, I note from quick research that the term seems to have been coined in 2005 by one Ran Hirschl, but it didn't seem to actually get used much until the last year or three.
Check your garden: mine already has early-sprouting weeds, before the "good" stuff even peeks out at the spring sunshine.
It's easier for weeds to establish themselves, than for the cultivated, desired flora.
So, too, with "progressive" laws v. those fuddy-duddy laws that conform to the Constitution's restrictions on power-expansion.
But, headway at the federal level is being made, slowly to be sure, but made nonetheless: Roe and Chevron have been taken down & pinned to the mat. What's next? Maybe Wickard? We can only hope.... :- )
Also going to note that that term - Juristocracy - seems to be slightly different - Rule by Judges, rather than Rule by Lawyers. Not a huge distinction, but not a trivial one either. Still curious for a term that means the latter.
It was not a Voter ID "law" that was approved by the votes, it was an amendment to the State Constitution. It can not be overturned by a court, only by a subsequent amendment.
Incidentally, what would I suggest as a remedy for the Juristocracy/Rule By Lawyers? A new Constitutional Amendment placing limits - perhaps even a complete ban - on how many lawyers can be elected to the Legislative and Executive branches. By its nature, that single profession is going to have a virtually complete lock on the Judicial Branch. There needs to be some sort of limit on their preponderance in the other two branches. Otherwise, when all 3 branches are dominated by one profession, there are no checks and balances whatsoever on lawyers self-dealing and creating laws that benefit their one profession (like, for example, class action lawsuits - every victim gets a $5 gift certificate for more of the product that hurt them, while every lawyer gets millions) to the detriment of the rest of the population.
"The left-wing ideology says the right-wing ideology is an even longer con."
It's true. It all started with a thing called, "The Constitution."
"Rule by Judges, rather than Rule by Lawyers". Yes, I agree, not the same. A Juristocracy is one lawyers could rule, but not the only way.
Frankly, there has been way too much specious BS about simple and common "preserve the status quo until a full hearing can be held" TROs as if they are the end of the constitutional order.
""The left-wing ideology says the right-wing ideology is an even longer con." It's true. It all started with a thing called, "The Constitution.""
Yeah, we conlawprofs call it "The Con."
Peter Spieker: One of my favorite sci-fi series, Farscape, had an episode called "Dream a Little Dream" (not one of its best) about a planet ruled by law firms, with 90% of the population being lawyers and 10% being "Utilities" workers who were oppressed by the lawyers. The government was comprised of competing law firms. I don't think even that episode came up with a proper name for that form of government, but the planet was called Litigara. Sounds like a good base for the name, so I propose Litigocracy.
Overheard on the street during the Wisconsin protests of 2011: "All the assholes are over on the other side."
I note that the side without any assholes is likely full of shit. Or perhaps sporting colostomy bags. Which fits in with an Instapundit oldy but goody category heading, "With DNC in Mind, City Bans Carrying Urine, Feces" from way back in 2008.
And we now have not a Juristocracy, but a Kakistocracy.
Why should we care who appoints a judge, or who that judge is?
The fact that we do, and there is demonstrable political bias in rulings indicate the law is meaningless and judges are an extension of a political party.
There's a branch of leftwing lunatics that believe we are heading for a societal breakdown - but it's not the reason that they think.
It wouldn’t surprise me to see Musk to get ‘Viveked ‘ in the not-to-distant future.
Overheard on the street during the Wisconsin protests of 2011: "All the assholes are over on the other side."
What a field day for the heat
A thousand people in the street
Singing songs and carrying signs
Mostly saying, "hooray for our side"
-- Stephen Stills 1966
If the “future of civilization hinged on the Wisconsin result” then presumably the world has now ended. And driverless cars work, and we’re on Mars.
"If the “future of civilization hinged on the Wisconsin result” then presumably the world has now ended."
Apparently "the future" now means "yesterday". Meanwhile, lefties can claim the world will end due to climate change "in 10 years" 40 years ago, and 30 years ago, and 20 years ago, and 10 years ago, and never have to say they're sorry. Sick burn bro.
You beat everyone to Mars, KaKa. You were lost in the ozone a long time ago and somehow found your way to the Angry Red Planet.
How fitting…
When a judge interprets the law in a way that I disagree with, it's bigly not fair and they should be removed, arrested or impeached!!!!!
- MAGAt 2025
"In the days when the judges ruled, there was a famine in the land." (From the Bible.)
Judge dismisses NY mayors charge "with prejudice" calling Bondi's DOJ stinking of quid pro quo. If the DOJ dismisses charges the n I will dismiss for good. The trump /ONDI plan to keep the mayor on the hook was see through as cellophane. This whole group of people are so freakin incompetent then cant get anything right. Leaking classified info over gmail. sending innocent people no charges no record no affiliation and now no release to foreign prisons and then saying oops my bad,, ,too late...mistake, and everything else they do fire people ,have to rehire do things and the judges say illegal, unconstitutional ,bad crap moves etc..What a group of misfits. They are in charge of everything and it shows...
“ It was not a Voter ID "law" that was approved by the votes, it was an amendment to the State Constitution. It can not be overturned by a court, only by a subsequent amendment.”
Here in CA we’ve had at least two voter approved Constitutional Amendments overturned by the courts (props 187 and 8 IIRC.)
Russ Feingold stated the Democrats’ philosophy: “It’s not over until we win!”
Not a fan of Trump or Musk, but the special election results yesterday were pretty much in line with what we saw in 2017 and even 2023 in the most recent Wisconsin Supreme Court race. Trump's real value to the party is when he is actually on the ballot. When he is not on the ballot, the opposition has extra motivation to turn out, while Trump's supporters relative political disengagement becomes a liability. A critical mass of Trump's support is loyal to him, not the the Republican Party.
Having said that, dumping Musk is a smart move politically for Trump. But the real problem is DOGE itself, combined with tariffs and the hard-right culture war. If Trump's policies somehow magically conjure up robust economic performance, everything will be forgiven by a critical mass of voters. However, it is hard to square those expectations with what he is actually doing. Who will be the Trump's next high profile scapegoat once Musk is gone?
Kakistocracy said...
“and we’re on Mars.”
Say hi to Dejah Thoris for me.
Kakistocracy said "As a resident of Wisconsin, I offer the observation that this result is less about a "liberal surge" than a rejection of political extremism. Those of us in the Midwest still find value in government that works and in taxation that delivers tangible results (clean streets, successful schools and safe neighborhoods)" That may be true, but the political extremist in the race won so maybe not. And the dunce we have as head of DPI also won. Anyone who says that Wisconsin has successful schools hasn't seen the test scores (Underly lowered standards and even by her new standards the schools in the state are getting worse every year). And as for safe neighborhoods, those are slipping away as well, particularly in Milwaukee.
The left-wing ideology says the right-wing ideology is an even longer con.
Yeah, our "con" runs all the way back to writing a written US Constitution with rules that keep the left from doing all that they want to do.
So evil. we are.
Yes, that's sarcasm
DINKY DAU 45 said...
Judge dismisses NY mayors charge "with prejudice" calling Bondi's DOJ stinking of quid pro quo.
Here, dinky brain, let me fix that for you:
Corrupt left wing judge grossly exceeds his powers, upset that the Trump Admin is ending the Biden
Admin's corrupt prosecution of Mayor Adams.
Since that's what actually happened.
What they "judge" is trying to do is make it so if more evidence comes out, evidence that Adams is actually guilty of a real crime, he can't be prosecuted.
Because only Dems are allowed to prosecute corrupt politicians
Jonathan said...
It was not a Voter ID "law" that was approved by the votes, it was an amendment to the State Constitution. It can not be overturned by a court, only by a subsequent amendment.
They will just do what they did with Roe v. Wade.
They will make up a bunch of bullshit to avoid reading the clear and obvious words of the amendment.
Crawford already has all of the decisions written out that will allow people to register and mail in ballots with no voter ID requirement.
The billionaires that bought her election for her need to be able to mail in ballots to win elections and keep power.
TeaBagHag said...
When a judge interprets the law in a way that I disagree with, it's bigly not fair and they should be removed, arrested or impeached!!!!!
- MAGAt 2025
And when the left disagrees with Kavanaugh over abortion they agitate for his death.
I appreciate that observation, Achilles. It was terrible when Democratic Party leadership called for Kavenaugh’s death. It is unconscionable when the lunitics at the top tweet about taking a judge out. They should be sorry and their constituents ashamed.
This week US Supreme Court concluded Wisconsin Supreme Court progressive judges let their political opinions color their rulings in Catholic Charities case. And Wisconsinites just elected another AWFL to Wis Court.
Wait, what? Conservatives spent two generations getting originalist judges and justices appointed, and have now achieved parity with the liberals, and Musk interprets this all as “corruption?” What wouldn’t be corrupt in his view? Judges that rubber stamp every position taken by the Trump Administration?
On the voter ID referendum -
"The question isn't asking voters whether to get rid of or keep the voter ID law — it will remain in place regardless of the referendum results."
"Instead, it's asking whether Wisconsin should essentially make the law permanent by adding it to the state constitution. That would make it harder for a court to declare voter ID unconstitutional in the future."
--Milwaukee Journal Sentinel
TeaBagHag said...
I appreciate that observation, Achilles. It was terrible when Democratic Party leadership called for Kavenaugh’s death. It is unconscionable when the lunitics at the top tweet about taking a judge out. They should be sorry and their constituents ashamed.
And people should never take anything that a democrat or their supporters say seriously or at face value because democrats are just dishonest about everything that they do and everything that they support.
"Assuming for the moment that this argument is in good faith, then what is the conservative 'con'?"
To allow for people who are minding their own business to be left alone.
TeaBagHag said...
"I appreciate that observation, Achilles. It was terrible when Democratic Party leadership called for Kavenaugh’s death. It is unconscionable when the lunitics at the top tweet about taking a judge out. They should be sorry and their constituents ashamed."
But you wouldn't have been too upset if they succeeded. After all you're all in the same party.
Now consider that literally everything advocated by the left in the 1960s to 1980s are no longer advocated by the left. Today's Republicans have adopted many of these views.
- Pacifism
- Anti big business
- Freedom of speech
- Freedom of art
- Carrying guns into state buildings (California Black Panthers in 1967)
As Trump and many of his supporters are former Democrats, the screw has turned. What were those long term lefty goals again? What are they now?
Short attention spans = goals that change with the weather and incoherence.
Here’s a life tip for party line, zombie ninnies; you don’t have to support the insane excesses of your parties’ outer wings.
I for one am against murder, you mind reading shitbags.
When Republicans are proudly reading Joseph Goebbels quotes (Repug Congressman Keith Self just did this!) on the house floor, to bolster their position, maybe, just maybe, that party and its members should be ashamed?
Have practiced in Oregon since 1969. We've had D govenors since '86. Almost no judical elections are contested.
Overwhelming majority appointed by govenor after predecessor "conveniently" resigns before next judical "election". About '90, had to start advising clients that result at trial, given this particular judge, was more likely to be governed by ideology than the law. Among other results, Oregon rental housing market is among the nation's worst, as investors flee, and Gresham's law applies to tenants as well: the bad force out the good. Court of Appeals last week overturned well-reasoned Circuit Court decision holding latest gun control inititive unconstitutional. Told friends the moment intial decision published, this would be the result. Without impartial, non-political justice, everything else falls apart.
I for one am against murder, you mind reading shitbags.
No. You're not. Thousands upon thousands (if not millions) of 'shitbags' just like you lamented Crooks wasn't a better shot.
Own it.
Achilles was a load that should have been swallowed.
That MIGHT be murder, if you are a fundamentalist troglodyte.
Qwinn,
> Isn't it weird how every other kind
> of conceivable government has a
> name - democracy, oligarchy,
> technocracy, etc. etc. - but the one
> we actually have, rule by lawyers,
> doesn't have one?
Of course it does: Hell.
"Those of us in the Midwest [what you really mean is "me"] still find value in government that works and in taxation that delivers tangible results (clean streets, successful schools and safe neighborhoods)."
Which is why you support rooting out waste and fraud in government.
Oh, wait…
Intellegent folk wouldn’t trust Elon Musk to be the third base coach of a beer league softball team. Rooting out waste isnt the issue, putting that Ketamine addled caricature of an evil super villain in charge, without any accountability is the real problem. But you knew that, and are being a disingenous MAGAt………..
Intelligent folks know how to spell intelligent, Haggis.
I don't accept the premise that Musk has no "accountability". The transparency which DOGE is providing may be unequaled in the history of government. Your charge is just a lefty talking point with no substance.
Compare DOGE transparency with that of the NGOs, which are designed to obfuscate the money trail.
When the Democrats run cons, they claim to be high minded and above vulgar material concerns. Not all the time, but the older form of graft is easier to find and punish than the higher grift that claims to be idealistic and altruistic.
Achilles said...
"...The Leftist Pharisees pretending to be judges are just the second legislative branch and the reason 4 billionaires piled in millions of dollars to get Crawford elected is they know she will just make up bullshit to keep the mail in vote fraud going in Wisconsin."
I used to think that Progressives were the New Puritans. Then I began to see them as the New Pharisees. Now I believe they're the New Inquisitors.
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