Commence the ritual of atonement for your amorphous environmental sins. Or just eat every bit of every damned food item you buy. So: bone-out meat, fruit with edible peels, dried whole egg powder, etc.
March 23, 2025
"There are orange 'smart composting bins' on many street corners. But you’ll have to sign up for the NYC Compost app to open them...."
"You can also find a drop-off site with green bins that do not require an app. But the hours they are available may vary. The law says that any building with four or more apartments must have an area that’s accessible for compost drop-offs. What 'accessible' means is open to interpretation.... '"Accessible to residents" is going to look different in every building' and does not guarantee that a composting bin will be available around the clock or that there will be a bin on every floor...."
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unlike recycling compost is useful..In Boston compost is garbage so trash pickup Wednesdays garbage on Fridays. What?
“Fleas the size of rats sucked on rats the size of cats
And ten thousand peoploids split into small tribes
Coverting the highest of the sterile skyscrapers…”
What could go wrong in a city that has a larger rat population than humans, and a knack for not being able to keep up with regular garbage on the streets?
Composting plus regulations seems like a marriage made in heaven for New York City. Only thing missing are bike lanes drawn to the composting bins.
Or just eat carnivore. We generate nothing compostable.
With Soylent Green, you don't have to worry about orange composting containers
Soviet.
Just put it all down the garbage disposal, let the treatment plant worry about it.
What do they do with the compostable waste?
One thing that is very clear is that the NYC government hates it’s people very much.
I guess NYC needs more revenue to cover immigrant housing costs.
But... but...
Those things are not intended. We don't think about unintended things. It would keep the virtuous from demonstrating how much smarter they are than the evil bad people who point this shit out to them.
So rude.
We have compost, recycle, and trash.
Most high and mighty progressives have no clue how to separate any of it.
The local recycle center - (you can go visit if you'd like.. It's really nice) - but because local progressives have no clue how to follow directions - the "recycle" is just massive amounts of trash.
More green BS.
I’m pretty sure government buildings and those with influence in the government will be exempt.
Maybe, just install a garbage disposal. They've been around disposing of garbage for decades.
Recycling, despite using forced labor for collecting and sorting, is a money pit. (I'm old enough to remember the "paper drives" that have gone the way of the Dodo.) The compost effort will be worse.
What is it with people who love having the State involved in every aspect of their lives?
What is the process that turns these people into sheep who put up with such nonsense. Being a New Soviet Citizen, and being proud of it, and turning in your friends or others who think it is all BS.
most recycling is an expensive scam, meant to transfer liberal guilt to a third world water way or ocean.
In NE Philly in the 80s we had "slop buckets" to put out weekly for the NJ pig farmers to pick up. Covered, of course to not encourage vermin.
Western Disposal is clear with their instructions. Again - nobody bothers to read - because the green fairy will rinse your milk jug, remove the hard white Styrofoam from the box, and clean up the hot-mess in the compost.
The magic green maid fairy is related to the dog-poop bag trail clean up fairy.
New York is probably 5 years from becoming Delhi, India. You're going to see cows roaming down 5th Avenue munching from the trash heaps.
I can't wait.
You won't have to drive to Jersy to dispose of a body?
But what will the unhoused eat?
" ... buildings that don’t separate compostable waste from trash will face fines"
Does "the building" do the separation or does each is each and every resident keep track of what is compostable and what is not and separate them accordingly? If so, the policy will be marginally successful at best.
Interesting that the building has to separate the trash, not the people who are in the building. Sentient Skyscrapers!
The rotten, rotting apple.
Okay, Mr TypingTalker, get out of my head!
Come out and take it, you dirty yellow-bellied rat, or I'll give it to you in your orange bin!
I understand the strictness -
btw- if you cannot follow instructions - just toss it all in the trash.
What's a visitor eating something -- a piece of pizza -- supposed to do as they walk down the street? I won't download an app. My phone isn't smart.
My tenants produce an astonishing amount of trash. I'm constantly breaking down boxes and sofas and mattresses. It really is amazing how wasteful our country is. But even so, this compost business is not a good idea. Rats are going to love these bins. And the bins themselves will harbor tons of harmful bacteria, fungi and other microorganisms that will cause infections.
some say one man’s trash
another man’s treasure
itz teh green nude eel
Recycling was outsourced, and their burden left in dumps or dumped in transoceanic sanctuaries. Environmentalism is largely a fascist ideology purveyed by influencers. That said, conserve in moderation to mitigate progressive principals.
Garbage disposal? No. Flush it.
This is the most important issue facing perfect NYC.
To top it off, the Farmers’ Market at Union Square used to be allowed to take in composting which was used in gardening but the geniuses at NYC decided to prohibit that! Don’t know if they changed their minds because we moved away. This is a disaster.
(Older buildings in NYC tend not to have disposals,)
Another way the big cities, perhaps cities in general, are becoming economically untenable.
- Grotesque amounts of garbage in a relatively small area, expensive to deal with and attracts rats.
- Only practical solution, mandatory separate collection of organic stuff is expensive, unpopular, and unenforceable.
I wish NYC luck with this, but really no chance it will work.
BTW, if you COULD get all that edible stuff into secure containment and collection, then the rats would be reduced.
NYC only recently adopted the otherwise ubiquitous large hard plastic garbage bins. From what I've read, they weren't used till now because of the unions' fear that they would enable manpower reductions. Trash was put out in plastic bags that made life much easier for the rat population, but required more workers to toss them into the garbage trucks.
good grief, I didn't think they could get more absurd,
The mandatory nature and the fines are wrong. We have voluntary compost recycing on our town and most people do it because they want to. We also get to pick up compost for our yards each spring as a "reward". Is someone going to inspect your trash to make sure there's zero compostible refuse in it? Is one ornage peel segment going to be enough for a fine? Seems like another source of revenue from evil landlords.
“Another way the big cities, perhaps cities in general, are becoming economically untenable.”
If the city is under blue governance, there’s still a slight chance, take the ambulance. If the state is also blue, it’s gonna be hellaciously worse, use the hearse.
"Leland said...
I guess NYC needs more revenue to cover immigrant housing costs."
Every building will be fined because tenants don't have time or inclination to sort stuff out. So, another "disguised tax" .
Tip, make sure anything with your name and address goes in the correct bin.
"Go ahead, bite the Big Apple, don't mind the maggots"
IIRC it was Shakespeare who said,
"Don't Mind The Maggots.".
I never understood urban composting. If you don't have a lot of grass clippings and it's just garbage from your kitchen, there doesn't seem to be much point, unless everyone has a Bokashi bucket. Look it up. You make the compost in your home and then the city can pick it up, rather than leave every bit of rotten garbage outside in a bin to make a feast for the vermin.
As soon as my city began limiting and inspecting everything that went into the recycle bin ( and wrote tickets for non-compliance ) the amount of recycling dropped precipitously. I know my level has gone down by 2/3rds.
Like most government mandates, this is both oppressive and pointless.
“ Like most government mandates, this is both oppressive and pointless.”
But the question remains, what Democrat or Democrat buddy is getting their payoff.
Montana Rules:
- Trash locked up securely until you haul it to the dump
- vegetable trash (excluding white bread, which goes in the trash) goes out the front door by the porch
- meat trash goes at least a block or two away
- inside the city limits, burn pits are limited to 6’ diameter, and burning must be personally supervised, and have dirt and water immediately available.
Those are out rules for living inside the city limits. Outside the city limits, things are usually a little looser - until your burn pit needs an EPA permit, etc.
The good news is that rats are completely a non issue. Mice occasionally, but not rats. Too far down the food chain. There’s a whole echelon of mid level predators who would love to add rat to their diets. The pest that primarily drives those rules are black bears (brown bears are not tolerated so close to humans). The vegetable trash off the front porch is for the midsized herbivores in the neighborhood, and esp the local pre-venisons. My partner loves having a doe and a fawn or two snoozing in the front yard afternoons , and the cat window surfs around the house to watch them. Meat trash is verboten, because it brings in the bears. And they are why trash cans have to be bear proofed, or just stored in the garage until trash day.
Tell me again, why anyone would want to live somewhere like NYC with their rats and new composting rules.
"commence the ritual of atonement for your amorphous environmental sins."
The ritual concludes with the firebombing of a Tesla.
“ NYC only recently adopted the otherwise ubiquitous large hard plastic garbage bins. From what I've read, they weren't used till now because of the unions' fear that they would enable manpower reductions. Trash was put out in plastic bags that made life much easier for the rat population, but required more workers to toss them into the garbage trucks.”
Of course it was done for the union’s benefit. They are the ones providing the votes and money for then local Dem politicians.
By our house in PHX, we have a trash and a recycle truck come by once a week. We have mostly black (trash) and blue (recycle) rolling trash cans. The joke is that two miles East or south of us, in Snottsdale, they use pink trash cans, paid for with their higher taxes. Trucks have arms that grab the trash and recycle containers, and dumps them in the truck. One or two people in the truck, and no one on the back. Expect that is the case throughout much of the country. Very efficient. And very civilized.
Speaking of The City, what have y'all done with Cookie?
Has it all been just too much. Has he surrendered and withdrawn from the field.
The boy's got a lot of city miles on him, I hope he's well.
I want him around to enjoy the revolution.
They started that a while ago in California. What my city does is require that we put food scraps in the yard waste bin. Not only does that bin smell terrible, but it turns into maggot central when it gets hot.
It's all pretty pointless. They say that they want to keep the food waste out of landfills because the decomposing food generates methane gas. But the food waste is doing that while it sits in the yard waste bin in your yard. Also, most of it will go into a landfill anyway because there are so few facilities in place to capture the methane gas from the food waste.
And you can also get fined if you don't put the right waste into the right bin. They're actually putting cameras in the trash trucks to monitor that.
"They're actually putting cameras in the trash trucks to monitor that."
Your Tax Dollars At Work
Gee, why is there no affordable housing in NYC?
California requires us to dump our used cooking oil and grease into the "green trash" cans sans container along with all the other organic matter, but they don't offer a cleaning service for the cans that will become a gooey, slimy mess. Beware small-minded people that have authority.
"California requires us to dump our used cooking oil and grease into the "green trash" cans sans container "
Yuck.
We don't generate very much, but when we have some we freeze it. Works especially well in the winter.
New York, California and Illinois need to have their statehood status revoked. They are now ungovernable as states and the republican clause of the Constitution needs to be invoked. Taxes are for services that benefit the taxpayer. In the case of NYC that this thread is about, they create rules that exacerbate the problems that impede the service they should be provided then tax more so they have funds to spend on things that aren't services that benefit the taxpayers.
Or, they could just "throw the bums out" who insist on micromanaging every aspect of their lives.
"What 'accessible' means is open to interpretation.... '"
Let's see ... I can live a simple life and put all my "compostables" in with my trash/garbage or I can make my life more difficult and complex by making the necessary separations and putting my compostables in a separate container in a separate location on a separate schedule.
I wonder how much more CO2 is released by operating two fleets of collecting trucks ...
CO2 Theater.
"Or, they could just "throw the bums out" who insist on micromanaging every aspect of their lives."
They're lefties. They believe in telling other people what to do.
Perhaps the biggest of the big projections in the current political milieu is the left calling the right "authoritarians".
Hayden said:"Tell me again, why anyone would want to live somewhere like NYC with their rats and new composting rules.[?]" And so there it is. In American Democracy!™ peeps get the governance the majority of them vote for. And the rats, flies, fleas, bedbugs, and feral proles as well. FTP.
@typingtalker - More CO2 Theater, the large vans in Chicago that move the Divvy rental bikes around to different bikeshare spots. Some of these bikes end up in Lake Michigan, one was spotted in Mexico.
https://hoodline.com/2024/08/volunteers-retrieve-dozens-of-divvy-bikes-from-lake-michigan-amidst-pollution-concerns-in-chicago/
https://x.com/chi_numtot/status/1577009355391569920/photo/1
There is an enterprising service here that cleans the bins every few weeks. It's a bit expensive but there's entrepreneurship.
For New York, the landlords will pass through the costs of hiring a company to deal with the compost.
"For New York, the landlords will pass through the costs of hiring a company to deal with the compost."
Sounds fair. It's not like the landlords are the ones making cleanup necessary.
Idaho Rules:
1. Carefully separate trash from recyclables.
2. Place trash in blue lid container.
3. Place recyclables in orange lid container.
4. Garbage truck takes trash to landfill.
5. Second garbage truck takes recyclables to landfill.
I always wondered if dirt was compostable, I don’t think dirt improves with age.
"Idaho Rules:"
Not in Canyon County (well, the city of Nampa, anyway). Here, trash goes in the brown container and recyclables in the blue one.
Aside from that, everything else is pretty much correct.
Oh, please. Even in deep-Blue/Green Washington State, no one is checking. Scofflaw Certain law-making.
I used to live near a place that had a large bin to accept donations of clothing...for the poor.
It had to close because the blacks dumped their garbage there. New Yorkers will just put all their waste into trash bags and leave it at the curb rather than deal with all those rules.
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