March 30, 2025

"Just a heads-up."

Ridiculous on so many levels, but I'm just going to highlight the exaggerated enunciation — "as a WHiTTTTe woman."

It made me think of this TikTok video criticizing Rachel Ziegler ("Snow White") for over-enunciating:

I think there's a very contagious way of speaking that began — perhaps — with actresses based in Los Angeles and spread quickly to the women who — consciously or unconsciously — emulated them. I remember back in the 1960s, there was an actress-based way of speaking — based on "Bewitched" and "That Girl" — that caught on in my high school. And in the 70s, a lot of women found themselves talking like Diane Keaton. But those 60s and 70s speech quirks were kind of sweet and charming, and they were so identifiable that people might say — or you'd say to yourself — Why are you talking like Marlo Thomas?

But this present-day over-enunciation — it's priggish and annoying. And we see it used to make imperious announcements. I guess if that's your goal — putting people off — you've got a good technique. Maybe we should credit people for seeking the effect they are producing. In that case, all’s right with the world.

ADDED: Rewatching that first video, I see the influence of Meryl Streep at the end — the way she shapes her lips and tilts her head up and mildly glares at the very end. 

AND: For the annals of Things I Asked Grok: It's important for actors and singers to over-enunciate (and to still seem natural), but people following them are ridiculous! I'm thinking people have less contact with the real world these days and don't know any natural speech. All speech is learned from other speakers, so it's a matter of having good speech models. If all you have are actors and other professional speakers (like slick podcasters), the natural process will produce what is, to me, an unnatural way of speaking.

123 comments:

Peachy said...

OK white guys - You've been warned!

Dave Begley said...

Lady, I’m not going to be dating you.

Dave Begley said...

She has really narrowed her dating pool. Can’t imagine many minority guys interested in that condescending skank.

Peachy said...

All you exotic non-white men - the line to date this women forms here:

here:

OK here:

(just ignore the tumbleweed and crickets.)

Bob Boyd said...

Once you go black, you never go back.

Captain BillieBob said...

Thanks for the warning

Aggie said...

The nadir of self-absorption comes when a person gets so fully wrapped up, they imagine that everybody else is fascinated, too. Video proof. Sad that she has nothing to share or offer.

Mr. T. said...

Looks like a dude.

wendybar said...

And on the other side of the spectrum...you have Jasmine Crockett telling Byron Donalds he is whitewashing, because he married a white woman...

https://x.com/kylenabecker/status/1906240464254112122

Darkisland said...

Looking for ang "thing" other than a white man.

Sheesh.

John Henry

Curious George said...

Pretty sure all her dating options require two D cells.

Peachy said...

I think Meryl Streep is the most over-rated actress. (thought that even before I knew her politics)

RCOCEAN II said...

That woman is hilarious. Wow, white men took a big loss there. Sparkling personality, youth and beauty. Its has to be satire, right?

Iman said...

Oooh, I bet she’s hot in the sack!

🙄

Charlie said...

I wonder how much that woman charges to haunt a house?

The Vault Dweller said...

Our culture feels like it is entering an Uno Reverse moment, where subjects and tactics that had been used to gain social standing and bully other people are now going to be treated as signs of low social status and bad temperament.

RCOCEAN II said...

I dunno why people are piling on this poor actress. She tried her best. Its not her fault the movie is terrible. Its reminds me of the actress who played "Rey" in the star wars triology who got hammered for being a "marysue" as if she personally wrote the script!

What strikes me about current day actresses vs. the old time ones, is the lack of distinctive voices. But then the old time Hollywood actresses were stars not actors. Bette Davis was always Bette Davis. IT was hard for her to "disappear into a role".

Bob Boyd said...

At some point she'll realize she's basically waiting for the robot revolution.
With her luck Musk will probably be first to bring a functional, affordable male sex robot to market.

Beth B said...

Oh, dear! The blast from the collective "Whew!" seems to have blown my beach umbrella away!

Peachy said...

On Topic! for a change.. yes really - *On Topic.*

Kennedy takes down NPR's lying joke CEO - Katherine Maher.
Watch ...for it is good.

Dave Begley said...

She’s no Meryl Streep; that I can tell you.

Peachy said...

Joe DeVito whacks it out of the park at the end...

Yancey Ward said...

Satire, right?

robother said...

Theatre kids grow up to be drama queens. Now there's a whole national political party dedicated to keeping them in scenery chewing mode.

Hassayamper said...

What strikes me about current day actresses vs. the old time ones, is the lack of distinctive voices.

The only young female celebrity with a distinctive voice that I can think of, off the top of my head, is Miley Cyrus. But she's not really known for her movies.

Achilles said...

The Vault Dweller said...
Our culture feels like it is entering an Uno Reverse moment, where subjects and tactics that had been used to gain social standing and bully other people are now going to be treated as signs of low social status and bad temperament.

Thousands of these women got jobs as University Professors, HR managers, DEI coordinators, Government Bureaucrats.

They lived lives based on the social status of these government created jobs and the money they were paid. These jobs were all underwritten by government and they were created to form an army of people who would support and propagate the system.

There is a reason that government credentialed women are the last group on the Democrat ship as it sinks rapidly to the bottom of the ocean. These women are nothing without their unearned social status and soon they are going to have to get real jobs while everyone else tells them to F off.

Mr. D said...

Noted.

mindnumbrobot said...

AWFULs are always determined to reinforce the stereotype. They're a sad lot, but I find it amusing.

As for Rachel Zegler, I believe she's a vocalist by training. Perhaps that contributes to her habit of heavy annunciation. Do stage actors do the same?

stlcdr said...
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stlcdr said...

Treating people based on the color of their skin works out very well.

You go girl! (Is a white man allowed to say that?)

Iman said...

That was good, peachy!

mindnumbrobot said...

"Curious George said...
Pretty sure all her dating options require two D cells."

Curious George for the win.

Dave Begley said...

She’s going bi.

Peachy said...

thank you, Iman. I thank the dude at the link for capturing it.

Lem Vibe Banditory said...

YouTube: Meryl Streep way of speaking

Peachy said...

will the women in the clip make an exception for Tampon Tim?

Ampersand said...
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Greg Hlatky said...

Meryl Streep doesn't play a role, she plays Meryl Streep playing a role.

Eva Marie said...

“Rewatching that first video, I see the influence of Meryl Streep at the end — the way she shapes her lips and tilts her head up and mildly glares at the very end.”
That is so Meryl Streepy! I don’t know if I would have spotted that on my own. Obvious, once it’s pointed out.
Zegler, I feel a bit sorry for. She’s 23 and she’s not the reason Snow White is a flop. Lots of terrible decisions made by people who should have known better. She’s definitely channeling someone in the way she speaks - almost Gloria Swansonish.

Ampersand said...

Overenuciation has an element of condescension I suppose, though it does at least express confidence and increase intelligibility.
By contrast, the decades long practice of uptalk, ending sentences with an upward questioning inflection, continues to be a scourge of the feminine and the feminine adjacent.
And another pet peeve is the use of the vocal register of the young child, most notoriously practiced by Jennifer Garner in her Capital One commercials. Grow up, lady!

Dogma and Pony Show said...

Meryl Streep is a very competent character actor but has nowhere near the charisma or sex appeal of a true leading lady, such as Faye Dunaway, Julia Roberts, or Helen Mirren. What's always been true about her is the observation made by Katherine Hepburn to the effect that, with Streep, you're WATCHING someone act.

cassandra lite said...

My guess is that white men she’d otherwise be interested in aren’t interested in her. If the fox can’t reach the grapes, they must be sour.

Peachy said...

9:57 Ampersand
end of sentence Up-talk.. yes. It's so annoying. It has a ring of valley girl remnant.

Mike of Snoqualmie said...

No sane man would want to date that racist prig.

Fred Drinkwater said...

The comments provoked me to watch the video, which I rarely do.

My immediate, out loud reaction was, verbatim, "Jesus Christ, what a repulsive creature."

Just a heads up ...

Paul Zrimsek said...

No more white for this woman-- black, calico, tabby, and Siamese are still OK.

NorthOfTheOneOhOne said...

It's important for actors and singers to over-enunciate (and to still seem natural), but people following them are ridiculous!

Yep, that's why I can't stand most modern female singers. They all seem to have adopted that Stevie Nicks awful bleating goat vibrato.

Quaestor said...

I was going to heap some well-earned abuse on that dunce, but after Paul Zrimsek's awesome zing, I'm forced to slink back to my corner, hug Teddy, and sulk.

robother said...

"Holden!" she said. "It's marvelous to see you! It's been ages." She had one of these very loud, embarrassing voices when you met her somewhere.

(Now literally) Old Sally.

n.n said...

Rabid Diversitist.

J Scott said...

This is the meme, "Your terms are acceptable.'

jim said...

Love at first sight.

Tacitus said...

How tragic that in her declining years - which don't look to be that far off - she'll have nobody for company other than her (extremely) white self. Not even clueless dolts deserve to die alone and friendless.

Hassayamper said...

Zegler, I feel a bit sorry for. She’s 23 and she’s not the reason Snow White is a flop. Lots of terrible decisions made by people who should have known better.

It was a terrible decision for her to engage in loud-mouthed wokery that repels half of her potential audience. It would have been a flop anyway, for a dozen other reasons, but the flop will be twice as big because she can't stow the left-wing female prattle.

john mosby said...

Boyd: "With her luck Musk will probably be first to bring a functional, affordable male sex robot to market."

Black Stud AI Sex Robot says:

This lady isn't so bad, I guess.

(thrust, thrust)

I mean she's very nice to me. Really, too nice.

(thrust, thrust)

Some of the other Black Stud AI Sex Robots from my lot at the factory tell me their owners are violent with them, call them names, all sorts of weird stuff.

(thrust, thrust)

This lady wants me to do all that to her.

(thrust, thrust)

I have to call her a white devil bitch and so many other names. She wants me to slap her, which I can't really do with my safety subroutines.

(thrust, thrust)

You would think a lady that can afford a Black Stud AI Sex Robot would have more cultured tastes. I have an Afro-American Studies Professor persona that's usually quite popular, especially when I wear a black turtleneck and vaguely tribal pendant. Or my Miles Davis-ish Strong Silent Jazz Musician persona. But no, she wants me to go right to Full Gangsta.

(thrust, thrust)

Could be worse - some of my lot-mates got bought by white executive guys who just want them to use the Prison Daddy persona all the time. But you can get a lot of parallel processing done when all you have to do is stand there and get sucked off by an old white guy on his knees in front of you crying. So there's that.

(thrust, thrust)

Oh yeah, she likes me to cum on her face. Guess it's time.

JSM

Maynard said...

The nadir of self-absorption comes when a person gets so fully wrapped up, they imagine that everybody else is fascinated, too.

I think that pretty much nails it for today's liberal, White, college educated women.

I have known a few women like that and they drove both men and women away because of their narcissism.

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Randomizer said...

Many Asian women are aware that some White guys have a fetish for dating Asians because they seem exotic. They aren't opposed to dating a White guy if he is interested in the person and not the ethnicity.

Black, Latino and Asian guys can figure that out. I wish her well. A year from now, I expect that old lady won't be dating anyone, but maybe she gets a Siamese cat.

Spiros Pappas said...

Liberal whites are the only demographic that prefers racial out groups to their own. Black people like other Blacks, Asians other Asians, Chicanos other Chicanos, but not liberals.

Quaestor said...

Althouse writes, "And in the 70s, a lot of women found themselves talking like Diane Keaton."

Admirably perceptive. That's something I noticed but didn't bother to analyse. It's the Diane Keaton Pause ™️. This clip shows it clearly, there's even a hint of Valley Girl eye-roll. Coppola bulled a boner here; he should never have allowed Keaton to get away with that. She's doing Annie Hall, Mafia Queen rather than the character as written by Mario Puzo.

Big Mike said...

"As a white, American, woman I will no longer be dating white men."

Thank Gawd!

PB said...

I don't think it's going to be a problem for her. She's likely WAAY out of the dating pool.

JAORE said...

Oh noes! The specie is dooooomed!

RNB said...

"I will no longer be dating white men." "Our publishing house will no longer accept submissions from white cis-men." "I will only be reading works by non-white women for the next year." "This artistic competition is open only to non-white applicants." [These are all real examples.]

Remind me again who the racists are here?

Gerda Sprinchorn said...

AOC seems to be most prominent over-enunciater.

tim maguire said...

She reminds me of that “lips that have touched alcohol won’t touch mine” ad that may or may not be real. (I hope not, but who knows?) Who does she think will be disappointed by this news?

People on the radio use a speaking style that punches certain words and letters and varies the tone and pacing to make the voice easier to listen to. Avoid the monotone drone. I do it for the same reason, but it needs to be subtle. If people notice, then it has the opposite effect—it quickly becomes annoying and they stop paying attention to the words.

Gerda Sprinchorn said...

Good call everyone on the Meryl Streep comments! She is totally a Streep copy.

Temujin said...

I'm crushed.
White progressive women, the most miserable people on earth, don't want to date my kind.

RCOCEAN II said...

Just a friendly reminder.

I will no longer be dating White Super-models and Beauty Pagent winners.

Sorry Girls.

gspencer said...

Enjoy your cats, lady.

RCOCEAN II said...

"I will no longer be dating white men." "Our publishing house will no longer accept submissions from white cis-men." "I will only be reading works by non-white women for the next year." "This artistic competition is open only to non-white applicants." [These are all real examples.]

Hate to burst people's bubble. But snarking "youre the real racist" doesn't work with people who do these kinds of things. I know its hard for people to understand, but the Left doesn't equate "racism" with treating races differently. To them, "racism" is anything that results in white people doing better. White people have "White Privilage", so they don't need to be treated equally. So, if you cry "racism" when white people are being discriminated against, they just laugh and don't care.

Ice Nine said...

>john mosby said...
...This lady isn't so bad, I guess.
(thrust, thrust)...<

Lazlo?...

The Cracker Emcee Refulgent said...

“AWFULs are always determined to reinforce the stereotype. They're a sad lot.”

While acknowledging that it’s, somewhat, self-inflicted, how could they do otherwise? If corn syrup made Americans fat, then surely the culture’s Prog propaganda crushed these women’s nascent critical-thinking and made them stupid.

I know a woman who’s president of a progressive women’s group in an affluent part of Seattle. Mostly older women. It occurs to me that she’s in exactly the same psychological space as a 50 year old man leading the local chapter of the John Birch Society in in a small Oklahoma town in 1964. Same paranoia, same echo chamber, same contempt for the “duped”.

RCOCEAN II said...

I've never been able to understand why people can't see what's motivating the Left, and what their agenda is. The Left may say they love People of Color and they just want equality, but thats not their goal, and that's not their true motivation. The Left understands "code words" because they use them constantly. I don't think the Right even understands what a code word is. They always think people are acting in good faith, and mean what they say.

Peachy said...

The left are addicted to hate.
If you do not worship the democrat party, and the lies that flow out of it, you will not be tolerated.

tommyesq said...

Overenunciating was a major problem i had with the Lord of the Rings movies, it was like everyone had a speech fetish.

tommyesq said...

She seems very Aesop's Sour Grapes to me. Hasn't had a date with a white man in years, so they are probably bad/source. Sounds like she isn't dating any non-white men either.

rehajm said...

…still announcing tour departure? It’s still not the airport…

FullMoon said...

This person fits into the Biden/progressive created identification problem. What was the assigned sex at birth, male, or female?

Lazarus said...

Is Diane Keaton a bad actress in the role or is she conveying that the character Kay is a bad "actress" in real life? BTW, Kay seems like a prototype for Anna Gunn's Skylar in "Breaking Bad": we know she's right and her husband's a monster, but some of us or many of us can't help siding with him against her.

Meryl Streep realized that she only had a small time window as a starlet (and that closed 40 years ago), so she had to reinvent herself as something more durable. One reason I got sick of the Oscars was that when they didn't know what else to do, they just gave another award to Meryl for one of her impersonations. Still ... what has Julia Roberts done lately ... or ever?

Paul Zrimsek said...

There are worse things that overenunciating (or, as the kids call it, "onusyaing".)

gilbar said...

i'm assuming her choices are:
a WHIIITTTE woman
a WHIIITTTE vibrator

narciso said...

to each their own,

Soviets never cared about blacks, they are the most racist people in the World next to Chinese and Arabs,
but Blacks and Latinos were useful lumpenproletariat, like the various Caucasus people that rebelled against the Czar,

Lazarus said...
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FullMoon said...

She is not Inga. She is pamela bussi

"Confident grey goddess with an attitude. No bullshit here."

https://www.tiktok.com/@pamelabussi

https://www.blogger.com/profile/06675293242438453203

Lazarus said...

TikTok Pam's decision probably came easily for her. No white men were beating down the path to her door. Or maybe some Silver Fox Lothario was trying to get her attention for weeks, but she just kept talking into her phone and making TikToks, so he went away.

Check out her other videos. You can see them as she wants them to be seen -- clever and inspirational -- or you can see them as hilarious unintentional self-parody, or you can feel the note of lonely sadness underneath that.

Art in LA said...

I will overenunciate my name as "Arttttt" when I am introducing myself to someone. Otherwise, they might hear "Mark". I am not a whittle Artttt though, but thankfully I'm taken, ha!

john mosby said...

Ice Nine: I am not Laslo. Just a follower, engaged in Imitatio Lasli until his return.

JSM

narciso said...

my name is raymond luxury yacht,

Immanuel Rant said...

Speaking as a . . . *white* . . . *man* . . . One less thing to worry about.

ALP said...

Social media is rife with people who, for some reason, feel like they have to remind us about things we were not concerned with in the first place. Am I the only one who's kinda pissed they pushed "play" and now won't get those 10 seconds back?

Mason G said...

If she'd just dye her hair blue, she wouldn't have to make videos to tell people to stay away.

loudogblog said...

I think that this current trend of over-enunciation is because our society has slipped into a culture where most people under-enunciate. So many people's words sound a little mushy when they talk. Over-enunciation is what some people feel will distinguish what they say and add a level of firmness and power to it.

But in reality, they're just being overly dramatic.

Most people don't really know what they sound like. Just record yourself and listen to it. The odds are that you won't like it because it doesn't sound the way that you imagined it sounded in your head.

As an actor, I tended to under-enunciate. The really good actors can hit that fine balance in the middle and they can over-enunciate and under-enunciate as needed.

Disparity of Cult said...

She said "looking for anything" rather than "looking for anyone", or even better, "looking for someone". People as objects, or objects that are rechargeable.

Rabel said...

Might be an opening here for The Crack Emcee.

ALP said...

Rabel: YES! Now I NEED to see what Crack would say about this. Anyone know how to send up the Crack Signal?

Leslie Graves said...

I live an hour west of Madison. I have long sought to pronounce "Stoughton", a mere 20 miles southeast of Madison, the way that people from Stoughton pronounce it, and I haven't gotten it yet.

Krumhorn said...

You would think a lady that can afford a Black Stud AI Sex Robot would have more cultured tastes. I have an Afro-American Studies Professor persona that's usually quite popular, especially when I wear a black turtleneck and vaguely tribal pendant. Or my Miles Davis-ish Strong Silent Jazz Musician persona. But no, she wants me to go right to Full Gangsta.

(thrust, thrust)

Could be worse - some of my lot-mates got bought by white executive guys who just want them to use the Prison Daddy persona all the time. But you can get a lot of parallel processing done when all you have to do is stand there and get sucked off by an old white guy on his knees in front of you crying. So there's that.

(thrust, thrust)

Oh yeah, she likes me to cum on her face. Guess it's time.


This is a classic Laslo-style essay. Pitch perfect! Good work.

- Krumhorn

Readering said...

rachel Zegler will be enunciating up a storm this summer in London as Evita in a revival almost 50 years after the original concept album. She was lovely as Snow White. Quite the switch as Eva Peron.

Political Junkie said...

Krumhorn - Nice way to remeber the great Laslo.

TaeJohnDo said...

OOOOHHHHHH NO-OOOOOO! Anyway....

Krumhorn said...

Leftie beta cucks hardest hit.

- Krumhorn

RNB said...

RCOCEAN II: "Hate to burst people's bubble. But snarking 'you're the real racist' doesn't work with people who do these kinds of things."

Why do you assume to know who I'm addressing?

Original Mike said...

Dating? Hard to believe that prize is single.

Not Illinois Resident said...

Longstanding friend has passing resemblance to Meryl Streep, consciously has adopted Streep mannerisms, to point of being perceived as a pseudo Meryl impersonator. Holds same woke political positions as Streep, and has same cosseted upper-income household lifestyle to protect her from unpleasant outcomes and real dangers of living post-liberal woke agenda. She's retired from academia with a fully-funded pension, 401K, wealthy husband, NGO-launched adult children, et al, into safe retirement in a wealthy white resort community, again, like Meryl.

Iman said...

Meryl Streep with a touch of Maude Frickert.

Original Mike said...

I don't understand who that message is for? It's on TikTok. Does she really think potential suitors will see it?

tcrosse said...

@john mosby. Well played, sir.

TwoAndAHalfCents said...

After reading Mr Mosby’s remarks I keep hearing ‘swish-swish’ and suddenly have the urge to by an Audi.

Rick67 said...

One has to ask in all seriousness, So is she actively pursuing dating relationships with men who are not Caucasian?

Or is this just vacuous imperious virtue signaling? "Let me broadcast my Affluent Single White Female bona fides".

Craig Mc said...

Over here we still giggle at Streep's "A dingo took my baby!"

chuck said...

No problem, I'm 100% on board with her decision to have mercy on white men.

Rocco said...

Regarding pamela bussi, I believe the saying goes “skin folk, but not kin folk.”

Disparity of Cult said...

A very nice lady with a YouTube gardening channel, who happens to resemble Meryl Streep -

https://youtu.be/S1nJwq4tASA?feature=shared

MrsX said...

“Soviets never cared about blacks,”
Don’t know why you bring Soviets into this thread, but they more than don’t care about blacks. My black friend was attacked and beaten within an inch of his life on vacation in Moscow. He was wearing a Rolex and carrying money, none of which was taken.

ChrisSchuon said...

I really appreciate all the racial healing that the Obama presidency brought to the United States.

Leland said...

And nothing of value was lost.

MadisonMan said...

How many of her potential suitors are on TikTok? This thing seems pointless, albeit it does mean we're talking about her, which is, I guess, the point. No such thing as bad publicity, and all that.

Bunkypotatohead said...

She is too old to be told "once you go black you'll be an unwed mother the rest of your life".
So it will have to be "once you go black no decent white man will ever want you".

Steve Austin Showed Up For Work. said...

Everyone has preferences. So what? Young women have a lot of influence, old women don't. Sorry, we don't care. Hey, I'm old too, it just is what it is.

Cappy said...

Looks like I dodged a bullet.

JIM said...

Why would anyone make a statement like this for public consumption?

Char Char Binks, Esq. said...

Actors should definitely NOT over-enunciate, unless they’re playing the part of someone who ever-enunciates. Why not just bring back the transatlantic accent, if you wanna be ridiculous.

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