"And sorry to put it so harsh, but it seems to me like we lost a good portion of a few generations of men who've just turned into complete fucking pussies."
Said Kid Rock, getting the last word in a discussion — with Bill Maher, Tim Ryan, and Pamela Paul — that started out with a criticism of the Boy Scouts changing its name to Scouting America.
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I think he's on to something...
Spartan mothers were all come home with your shield or on it. That was my mom. Now when reading the press I get the message that trans surgery is what moms want for boys.
This made me laugh uncontrollably. I don’t even agree that much. Maybe the weak men are just more prominent now. Maybe they just hit old.
The Boy Scouts, like many a non-profit, turned into a grift. That they were paying the president of Boy Scouts $2 million a year appalls.
"Scouting America" sounds like what the Chinese spy balloon was doing a couple of years ago.
It started when schools stopped posting test scores with student names.
It started when the upper classes figured out ways to keep their children out of the military draft (e.g., go to college for years and year; per my bragging high school teacher -- they made up fake medical treatments like 2-year tooth-straightening timelines).
Even Trump had "bone spurs" to and deferments with Vietnam:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2018/12/27/trump-vietnam-war-bone-spur-diagnosis/2420475002/
As a comedian quipped, "Sending little boys into the woods with no supervision other than adults their parents don't know?Whoever woulda thought that was a bad idea?"
I was a Webelo way back when, and gave up when I realized all the other kid's soapbox race cars were built not with their dads, but by their dads. And in some cases, by their dad's mechanical engineering employees. And nobody minded except us kids whose dads gave us a piece of sandpaper and the Elmers to do our own cars.
In William Manchester’s The Glory and the Dream there’s a reference to how the youth of America were “soft” and would not be able to cope with the coming crisis. That was on the eve of World War II, and today we call those young men and young women “The Greatest Generation.” Kid Rock is entitled to his opinion, but the men of Gen-Z may yet surprise a lot of people.
For-profit non-profit twilight perchance dark Dinero, for one. The transgender infusion, grooming, for another. NOW, the women and girls, too, equivocal and inclusive. Progress.
Even Trump had "bone spurs" to [sic] and deferments with Vietnam
@Enigma, I suffer from bone spurs, and they both limit my mobility and can be very painful when they act up. Perhaps if I took a 5 pound sledge hammer to your heels you wouldn’t think heel pain was so effing funny? Just askin’
A bit more than sixty years ago I made Eagle, and I was pretty proud of the accomplishment. It’s not clear to this old-timer how much of an accomplishment it is anymore.
Big Mike: "...but the men of Gen-Z may yet surprise a lot of people." Let's hope so. But I have no such confidence in the womyn.
Evidently, reverse psychology only goes so far.
A Boy Named Sue
And he said, "Son, this world is rough
And if a man's gonna make it, he's gotta be tough
I knew I wouldn't be there to help you along
So I give you that name, and I said goodbye
And I knew you'd have to get tough or die
It's that name that helped to make you strong"
He said, "Now you just fought one heck of a fight
And I know you hate me, and you got the right to kill me now
And I wouldn't blame you if you do
But you ought to thank me, before I die
For the gravel in ya gut and the spit in ya eye
'Cause I'm the son of a bitch that named you Sue"
What could I do?
Well, I got all choked up and I threw down my gun
I called him my pa, and he called me his son
Come away with a different point of view
And I think about him, now and then
Every time I try and every time I win, and if I ever have a-
Well, if I ever have a boy, I'll name him
Frank or George or Bill or Tom, anything but Sue
they should call themselves: Pussiescouts of America
or, to be more factual.. Pedoscouts of America
" reading the press I get the message that trans surgery is what moms want for boys."
If you're a man, and think you're a woman..
you're mentally ill.
If you're a boy, and think you're a woman..
you're MOM is mentally ill.
I was a Boy Scout decades ago, starting when I was 11. We went camping and hiking. We learned to cook our own food, how to make whatever water was available safe to drink, how to read the terrain to know where to set up camp and what places to avoid. We learned how to use map and compass to navigate. We swam, went canoeing, shot rifles, and did a host of outdoor activities. We had fun and built friendships. Those were some of the happiest times of my childhood.
Competition is important. Knowing how to lose is important. Declaring everyone a winner, or worse simply not having winners, creates people who are mere shells of what they might have been.
Bill Maher said, "This is the kind, I've said it a million times here. The Democrats, you lost a crazy contest to a crazy person."
True to form, Maher's writers (Surely, you don't believe Maher invents his quips on the spur of the moment?) didn't think that one through. A crazy contest would reward outstanding craziness, not relative sanity. Maher's remark implies the Democrats political philosophy is insufficiently lunatic to defeat Donald Trump's lunacy, the opposite of what he intended.
“complete fucking pussies”
CFP’s
@Big Mike: Perhaps if I took a 5 pound sledge hammer to your heels you wouldn’t think heel pain was so effing funny? Just askin’
Don't shoot the messenger. My sneering, smug, left-wing high-school teacher was very proud of himself for dodging the draft with an admitted medical excuse. One of my college professors was also very proud of herself for burning down an ROTC booth and having a felony record.
Do bone spurs preclude any form of public service? Could you have served in a medical corps, helping people with bone spurs and other maladies? You might have guided them from personal experience.
The draft sought to make all classes equal. The draft was gamed madly during the Vietnam era. Maybe Trump was telling the truth, maybe he was gaming the system. I was reporting on a news story and a cultural shift -- a hundred years ago obedience and loyalty was so strong that people actually died for God and country.
...They that had fought so well
Came through the jaws of Death,
Back from the mouth of hell,
All that was left of them,
Left of six hundred.
https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/45319/the-charge-of-the-light-brigade
Start with the kind of music youth started listening to 30 years ago...
I like Kid Rock but I’m taking the lightweight on the high school wrestling team over him in the cage match.
gilbar writes, "[T]hey should call themselves: Pussiescouts of America or, to be more factual.. Pedoscouts of America."
To be even more factual, the Pedoscouts of America are the adults. Didn't you know? Pederasty is just another lifestyle choice.
They're introducing an entirely new rank structure in Scouting America. First of all, the scouts are not the young biological males formerly known in the patriarchy as boys, or the hormonally suppressed former immature birthing persons deadnamed Karen now called Pedro. The scouts are the recruiters always on the lookout for fresh meat. In the defunct BSA, new members were known as Tenderfoots. That has been changed to Tenderbutts. The next rank up in the hierarchy formerly as known as Second Class are the Assbleeders. When enough rectal scar tissue is formed, the Assbleeder is promoted to Catamite First Class. Above Catamite is Hollywood Star, Life Corrupted, and finally the exalted Seasoned Chicken.
I think it has less to do with the era of participation trophy and begins much further back. I think as people started having children after WWII, the contemporary world didn't feel like it would need the skills for wilderness survival. Certainly, the future didn't look like it would.
First, teaching children to hunt began to fade. Who needed archery when firearms were much more effective. Woah, maybe let's refrain from teaching boys under 18 how to handle rifles and handguns. So maybe some archery until the purpose for archery fades into being an obscure sport.
It took longer for things like camping and rope tying to fade. They would as cities grew out and the suburbs took away the nearby campsites. Other activities began to occupy young boys at an earlier age. Everyone had bicycles, skateboards, and other means to find something to do. This led to Boy Scouts becoming a thing for legacies, more than something for every boy. Throw in the slow dissolution of the nuclear family, and membership began to fall.
Then came video games. The Atari 2600 followed by Nintendo's, Sega's, and eventually Xbox and PS1. Somewhere in there came the home PC. Now young boys had something else to do than Boy Scouts. Then we have the Internet. Finally, when the internet became available on the smartphone in the 2010's; Boy Scouts became a niche activity for those whose parents could understand its value. Everyone else, if you need to learn how to tie a rope, watch a YouTube video. Camping is something a noob did in an FPS shooter. And an FPS shooter was about the only place most boys under 21 and not in the military would ever see a firearm.
At least Girl Scouts realized the value early on in teaching girl's how to do sales.
JFC, n.n., will you ever just get to the point and say what you fucking mean without all of the crappy wordplay and cutesy-ness?
Donatello,
My theory is that n.n. is an early attempt at an AI before the concept of large language models was really feasible. Thus the soul deadening repetition of stock phrases, over and over, with only the most tenuous relation to anything in the current discussion via the most simplistic form of word matching.
If I were Althouse I would have banned n.n ages ago, for that most terrible of commenter sins: being boring.
The ultimate expression of male "pussyhood" is the rise of the proud and aggressive transwoman activist. It's no coincidence that misguided "liberals" are so obsessed with the T., even to the erasure and exclusion of lesbians (from the LGBTQ+) because they represent women who are not pussies.
Everyone is getting wimpier, women included. The wrong offhand comment from a man in public is enough to send them to social media to whine about it. No fucking spine, sensitive and thin skinned.
@Enigma, normally I'd cut a person some slack, but if the messenger cannot be bothered to do the research to find out whether his message is true or not true or maybe dubious, then mercy is a word that leaves my vocabulary.
I'm 78 -- President Trump and I are just one month apart in age.so he and I would have gone through the same draft process. Young punk kids like you probably believe that the doctors at the induction physical just took the draftee's doctor's word for it. Not at all! And bone spurs are easy to see on an x-ray machine -- you don't need national-class radiologist to suss them out. Even I can see mine when the podiatrist shows me the image, no problem.
When they act up, you can't walk far and you can't walk without pain. And a person who cannot walk is not much use to the US Army. I was healthy enough to be inducted, and so I lost two years of my life to the army. Fortunately just the years and not my life. But I could never have made it through Basic if my feet are as they are today.
So take your stupid TDS and stick it.
I'm with Big Mike. I, too have bone spurs, and I can hardly walk at all when they are flaring up.
I guess it's easy to laugh at somebody's handicap when you are so perfect.
@Big Mike: Young punk kids like you probably believe that the doctors at the induction physical just took the draftee's doctor's word for it.
Ha ha! Misread of the day. I'm NOT a young punk kid and I've got PLENTY of medical issues myself. Please read what I actually wrote. Bone spurs are one of many terrible medical conditions that people have. I've got PLENTY of issues of my own, so thank you for being so projective and egocentric.
Second, draft dodging fraud was rampant during Vietnam. That was the point -- regarding accountability and how society ended up where it is today. I mentioned Trump's case as an aside, and was mainly focused on admitted frauds such as my high school teacher. Bone spurs were a possibly fraudulent claim. Or not. Such is political reporting.
My point: Public service. All for one. One for all. Common, shared standards for contributions and evaluations.
If you think young people are pussies you should visit your local skateboard park.
Corporal punishment is illegal for adults. It should be illegal for children. Parents can pull their kids’ pants down and spank them for whatever they want. Meanwhile, their molesters are protected from physical punishment in prison (the adult version of a “time out”). If physical violence isn’t the answer for adults, it can’t be the answer for children.
But 'Girl Scouts' is okay?
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