Or what I felt like saying earlier this morning: This is such a social-media meme — so easy to see and comment on that it's working incredibly well as a distraction. Therefore, the Musk/Trump haters are getting conned. And: I wonder if Musk did all this on purpose — to divert critics from the main highway of policy substance into a cultural cul de sac.
ALSO: Here's the whole speech, which seems ad libbed, not scripted. Scroll to 0:50 to see the gesture in context, and listen for the words "My heart goes out to you":But I worked on other things, as you can see below, and even more time passed. I was about to let it go entirely, but then 2 things I saw on X made me laugh, so I'll give you this:
BONUS:Horrific: this member of the village people appears to be doing two Nazi salutes at the same time 😡😡😡 pic.twitter.com/k5fFwISVhn
— Kyle Mann (@The_Kyle_Mann) January 21, 2025
In retrospect, I regret taking the meeting.
— J.K. Rowling (@jk_rowling) January 21, 2025
He wanted me to collaborate on a kids’ version of Mein Kampf, but we couldn’t agree on an illustrator. He wanted Eva Braun, but the sample sketches he showed me were shit.
My talk today at the Presidential Parade
— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) January 21, 2025
pic.twitter.com/qCAxYQb7LN
101 comments:
When the shaming for the purposes of coercion and control, no longer shames.
" He's doing something like blowing a kiss. He's slapping his heart, then throwing it toward the audience, to say my heart goes out to you."
Obvious - but the same a-holes who brought us the couch humping lie - are desperate for a headline.
You missed the meme with Obama, Hillary and Kamala all giving that SAME salute!! https://x.com/akafaceUS/status/1881494659060634069
"the Musk/Trump haters are getting conned" For the last 8 years, they wanted to be conned about fascist Trump the colluder. For the last 4, they had to go with sharp-as-a-tack Joe. How much longer? I mean, is there a limit for progs, and will some of them now start to believe their lying eyes? Not that we'd want them to: prog delusions are the right's main advantage.
It would take a heart of stone...
I'm surprised Hitler didn't want to do the illustrations himself.
Judging from my Trump and Musk hating family members, this is a damp squib.
Not gonna lie....I did Nazi this one coming.
What I want to see blogged about (not sure who is best positioned to do it) is what it says about someone psychologically when they see Nazis everywhere.
If you accept the reality that there is no significant Nazi presence in North America and we are not surrounded by people who secretly admire Hitler, what does it say about a person who sees Nazi symbolism everywhere they look?
The real outrage is that we have to listen to the Village People again.
"You're militant, but I love you."
There's so much great shit happening all over the place, I gotta pace myself.
why not make this secret handshake for MAGAists
That's some funny stuff. I found this about the Rowling meme poster.
"Dame Katy is a proud TransBiPanLesbian, crowned Ms Grimsby in 1982. A psychic and former stripper with a PHD in Cat Psychiatry & Rodent Gender Studies"
That's from this very funny interview:
https://juliebindel.substack.com/p/dr-dame-katy-denise-ch-gbe
Same people who see racism everywhere
NPR really fell in line and off the truck on this one. It must be that blonde harpy imported from Wikipedia working her will. It is time to end all Federal support.
Who needs it?
People need to be aware of their palm orientation, hand density, arm flex, digit vectors, nail face, and other items that could be subject to both reasonable and unreasonable misinterpretation.
In many ways it was much more a traditional Roman salute.
Gunter Grass was once at a rally with Tom Wolfe who reported this gem of a reaction:
“For the past hour, I have my eyes fixed on the doors here,” he said. “You talk about fascism and police repression. In Germany when I was a student, they come through those doors long ago. Here they must be very slow.”
Using the OK sign is secret neo-nazi signal. The thumbs up is also a neo-nazi signal. I've seen Musk do both. Just sayin'
Rawlings tweet is hilarious
Him and Eva were going through a rough patch so was trying to smoothen things a bit.
I wish we'd bring back Freudianism, so these people could go back to seeing penises everywhere.
A joke in these parts is "What's the difference between a Queer and a Nazi?"
About 15 degrees of wrist angle.
The ADL posted that the criticism is inane. AOC attacked the ADL for being anti Jewish. It's time for the leftist posting monkeys to give it up.
I saw this live with a few others in my living room. We all wondered aloud if that was Nazi salute. We all agreed that it realistically wasn’t, but couldn’t figure out what it was. Odd to say the least.
The fist is a symbol of aggression. The open palm with a left orientation is a symbol of control. Elevation of two lateral digits is rock on. Presentation of two sets of lateral digits is live long and prosper. The middle digit has a popular consensus. Two crossed arms, too. Orientation matters.
The media company CFO demands controversial content that will feed the captured eyeballs. And what the CFO demands, the CFO gets.
Life is just better and more interesting with Trump.
Tags: Elon Musk, gestures, hitler, JK Rowling, misreadings, Village People
https://twitter.com/FarRightSkip/status/1881466858622373991
Musk did it to distract people from noticing the white guy offensively wearing the Indian headdress.
Further evidence that we have moved on. The cancel mob is now mocked rather than feared. Thank you, Trump.
I'm always surprised by the number of people thinking about Nazis in their daily lives. It is just something that I don't think about, ever.
Word has it one of the Village People was seen making the "OK" symbol to one of the other Village People. It's like the 1938 Nuremberg Rally all over again!
serious question..
of those people that "claimed" to be offended by this;
how many were wearing Hamas scarfs while they said it?
and how many others thought to take them off first?
So the media thinks Elon Musk, one of the most recognizable and known people on earth, decided to do a NAZI salute on the world stage.
To paraphrase JD Vance, do these people even hear themselves?
Therefore, the Musk/Trump haters are getting conned.
@Althouse, when one possesses a negligible number of working brain cells one is trivially easy to con.
The media no longer has any sway with most people. Reporters are being mocked for their take on Musk's spontaneous gesture.
Also, Trump is moving so fast the media is not sure which action to target. They are just shooting widely in the dark and haven't yet hit anything. Usually, the media coordinates a response (with each other and the Dems) to one statement or action so their narrative can take root with the left's supporters. They've been unable to do that this week. Too many moving targets.
It's a glorious thing to watch!
"It is time to end all Federal support."
Tomorrow won't be too soon. When Musk files the defamation suit we taxpayers won't be holding the bag.
As for CNN, I suppose that was a monumental "fuck you" to its stakeholders by the news editor, sort of like a suicide by law enforcement.
Those who seek to take offense are seldom disappointed.
Of course NPR and PBS pushing the Nazi solute BS the hardest.
I saw grandma run over by a reindeer.
He needs someone to tell him that he's not the one who was elected ...
How come the Capitol One Arena jumbotron featured Red Chinese symbology?
No one is buying the nazi, fascist, bs anymore. except for true Parti members like maddow, a few on this blog, and NPR.
The culture has changed. Trump changed it, and the left can't understand what is going on.
Trumps first day, beginning before dawn and ending after midnight, has so overwhelmed the communist cadre that they are in shock.
This is now day two. I suspect we will have more opportunities to laugh at maddow et al many more times in the coming days. Winning is fun.
"And: I wonder if Musk did all this on purpose"
I don't think Musk is ready for 60d chess yet. Unless he has a new super AI working for him. Either way "the future is going to be lit!"
And when it comes to setting the lefties hair on fire Trump is the Grandmaster. A natural. Musk can't hold a candle to him.
something for the media deadenders and poitical professionals (but I repeat myself) responsible for this treatment of Musk. Sing along if you like:
Act A Fool, Play The Calf,
And You'll Always Have The Last Laugh.
Wear The Cap And The Bells
And You'll Rate With All The Great Swells
If You Become A Doctor, Folks'll Face You With Dread,
If You Become A Dentist, They'll Be Glad When You're Dead,
You'll Get A Bigger Hand If You Can Stand On Your Head,
Be A Clown, Be A Clown, Be A Clown.
Be A Clown, Be A Clown...
He's an awkward dude. He started the speech with a series of herky jerky arm pumps. The heart goes out to you was another obvious spontaneous spasm.
WOW!! So many are affected by America's win!! This is what WINNING looks like.....
Katie Hopkins
@KTHopkins
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13h
Truly.
You do not know the pain of losing your freedoms. Until you start to get them back
Thank you America
(*hard-nosed cow-bag returning shortly)
https://x.com/KTHopkins
The left and the media are in such a bubble that they cannot see how the very fact that Trump was elected has shown that their ability to convince people of the false axiom that Trump is evil has completely tarnished their brand. Instead of reflecting that what they have to offer is so repulsive that people have rejected their platform, and that trying to sway people with histrionics cost them credibility, they instead double down on their effort. This will continue to erode their brand as they have lost the ability to control the messaging. People see that growing nose. Many will no longer trust the media. It could take a decade to restore any trust. In the mean time, they forget the rule of holes.
Yes, but that doesn't really help the case - she really is a Nazi and a fascist.
"Same people who see racism everywhere"
Not quite. The New Soviet Democraticals, fully and completely aligned with arab (there are no such things as "Palestinians" as there has never been a "Palestine") anti-jewish protestors (they aren't just "anti-Israel", duh), see nothing when it comes to their literal Hitler-praising political allies.
That’s what my instinct was when I saw it (without the sound) as well. When I watched it again later with the sound on, my instinct was confirmed.
The Village People Indian should have dressed like the QAnon Shaman. So many lefty heads would have exploded.
JSM
Breaking News: Techno bros are sometimes awkward.
Rowling is wonderful. I've loved her work but seeing her fight a good fight with the biting wit one would hope for in a English writer makes her amazing. I don't agree with all her politics but love the fact her politics have principles and she can call out evil where it is. Much like Althouse.
I'd love to listen in on a conversation with the two of them!
"Everywhere" except the mobs screaming "Death to Jews!" at campuses all across the country. Those people, generally but not exclusively of a certain ethnic-religious makeup, are never accused of being N@zis.
Gee, and to think the Press wonders why we think they're a bunch of pathological liars and those that believe it was a Nazi salute are a bunch of idiots. It's easy to find photos online of Democrats with one straight arm held up in a "Nazi salute" but those never seem to get called out by the Press.
People on the autism spectrum tend to make a lot of awkward movements unintentionally. You may need to make some accommodations for Musk's differentability, NN.
I'm trying to follow the logic here. We need to believe that
a) Musk is a closeted NAZI.
b) He chose this triumphal moment to reveal that fact.
c) Those to whom he revealed it are also closeted NAZIs, and were delighted by the revelation.
Hmmm. Well, that would be news. If you were a serious news organization, you'd have to report it.
I'm sick of Democrats claiming that everything they disagree with is evil.
Rachel Maddow was pushing the Nazi salute last night.
These people want to be "conned".
Left leaning X has utterly lost its collective mind over the Elon salute. "White supremacist patriarchy!" I think many of them honestly believe that Republicans are all barely closeted Nazis. It is very weird and delusional. We are in for quite an interesting 4 years.
CNN reported it. You'd think they'd have learned a valuable lesson more than anybody else.
Musk needs to go after them. Hard. As well as ANY media site/network that made such false claims.
Meanwhile-
Senate Passes Laken Riley Act With *12* Dem Votes.
Just 12 Dems?
Democrats are horrible heartless pro-crime Soros f-heads.
I wish we'd bring back Freudianism, so these people could go back to seeing penises everywhere.
[snicker] As far as I'm concerned, Paul Z wins the thread.
There are zero reasons to make an arm gesture like this unless you are doing a Sieg Heil. It is vile and disgusting.
lol
Lucille Ballers
“There are zero reasons to make an arm gesture like this unless you are doing a Sieg Heil. It is vile and disgusting.”
Look at these terrible people!
https://x.com/iamerniepalomo/status/1881670955875086822
As he frequently does.
When he came on the stage, he raised both arms in the typical papal salute from the window in the Vatican. In doing so, Musk is clearly showing his secret allegiance to the Illuminati.
@Peachy, Senator John Fetterman was one of the 'aye' votes:
SenFettermanPA
"A secure border + pro-immigration are fully compatible.
I proudly voted AYE on final passage of the Laken Riley Act.
And I am looking for legislative solutions to protect our Dreamers."
I'm not totally on board with his statement about Dreamers, but I'll withhold judgement until I see what's being proposed.
"Elevation of two lateral digits is rock on."
Not in most of the world.
Rocco, none of those identical gestures are nazi salutes because they are Democrats and therefore immune to criticism. This is why, if you are skeeze, you become a Democrat, you will have legions of defenders no matter what you do. It would be stupid to choose any other party.
"Elevation of two lateral digits" has at least three distinct significances. I don't know when it started meaning "Rock on!" but the other two are quite old. I think it was in The American Spectator that I read 40-50 years ago about someone going to a Satanist wedding in his youth ("Hey, it was the 'sixties!"). When the congregation raised their hands with first and fourth fingers extended and solemnly intoned "Hail Satan!", he whispered, loud enough for everyone to hear him, "Hook 'em Horns, Texas number one!". It caused great offense, but it was exactly the same gesture.
Accusing Musk of being a Nazi is as stupid or dishonest (usually both) as accusing an enthusiastic rock fan or U. Texas football fan who makes this gesture of being an evil Satanist.
It would be equally stupid to claim that the symbol on the Swiss flag is a plus sign, and represents Swiss bankers - maybe even Rothschilds or WEF members! - when it is in fact a Christian symbol, like the crosses on the flags of all five Nordic countries. Even though the symmetrical shape is actually more like a plus sign than most crosses, and Switzerland is better known today for its bankers than for devout Christians, it's still not true.
Whatever the case I'm sure there are very fine people on both sides.
/sarc
Re: two lateral digits
Also, hang loose, and cowabonga, man. Down under, it was used to domesticate wild buffalo and such.
The UK flag sports two (count 'em, two) crosses (George's and Andrew's).
Long may it piss off the right people.
"why not make this secret handshake for MAGAists"
It already is. The MAGAists are hoping to become part of a Fourth Reich.
"Life is just better and more interesting with Trump."
You're familar, I'm sure, of the ironic saying attributed (apocryphally) to the Chinese, "May you live in interesting times." Ironic, because it refers to turbulent and troubled times. It's a curse.
Yes, life will be more "interesting" with scum like Trump and Musk in control of things.
"she really is a Nazi and a fascist."
You obviously have no idea what a Nazi and a fascist is. Keep your eyes on Trump and you'll see.
"Everywhere" except the mobs screaming 'Death to Jews!' at campuses all across the country."
Are "mobs screaming "Death to Jews!' at campuses all across the country"? Really? Are they using those words? And it's happening all across the country?
"The left and the media are in such a bubble that they cannot see how the very fact that Trump was elected has shown that their ability to convince people of the false axiom that Trump is evil has completely tarnished their brand."
Trump is evil, but his idolators are too hypnotized--or stupid--to see it. He gives his adherents permission to revel and wallow in their resentments and hatreds of those (whomever they might be) they blame for their disappointed circumstances. Trump and Trumpism employs "scapegoating" as a fundamental motivating/operating principle.
@Narr "The UK flag sports two (count 'em, two) crosses (George's and Andrew's)."
It also includes St. Patrick's Cross. Right, shite on the Irish again.
Yes Kook. AND on video.
Cornell
Georgetown
Columbia
UT Austin
UC Riverside
UCLA
UC Berkley (along with arson and firebombs by faculty)
SUNY
CUNY
NYU
UIUC
UIC
UW Madison
And those are only from memory.
I get to use the motto of the Order of the Garter twice today. Honi soit qui mal y pense.
Aaron Rupar being his usual shitful self.
It already is. The MAGAists are hoping to become part of a Fourth Reich.
Keep it going, Cook. Don't let up. Show everybody who you are and always have been.
Not all Democrats are horse thieves, but all horse thieves are Democrats.
There are zero reasons to make an arm gesture like this unless you are doing a Sieg Heil. It is vile and disgusting.
You leftists haven't learned a damn thing. Good.
"And those are only from memory."
I see you couldn't remember any urls to videos showing this. (Exaperated sigh!) I'll have to go look for myself.
"So the media thinks Elon Musk, one of the most recognizable and known people on earth, decided to do a NAZI salute on the world stage."
Well...it sure looks that way. I then saw that it could just be the "Roman Salute." But then I read that the "Roman Salute" is also called the "Fascist Salute."
Maybe Elon just forgot himself...among hundreds (or more?) of those who share his views, all clapping and shouting his praises...and he forgot not to let the quiet thoughts in his head to be seen, revealed and amplified to the world at large. He just got caught up in the enthusiasm!
Cool! I'll look it up.
Godwin-Warhol's Law: In the future everyone will be Hitler for 15 minutes.
Not my responsibility, Kook, to do your homework for you because you're to lazy to tear yourself away from watching kiddie porn in your parents' basement.
I can, however unlike yourself, spell "exasperated" correctly because I'm not a dumb incel.
Um...dude...I've done a (admittedly) cursory Google Search on protestors at US colleges shouting "Death to Jews!" and I can't find any corroborating reporting on that. I think you have either imagined it or you misinterpreted something you read or saw on the news, or you listened to hearsay and believed it, or...what? I don't know. I can't say definitively no one ever shouted that or similar epithets, but...given the absence of reporting on it, I'd guess it didn't happen.
If this is the best the left and the media can come up with its gonna be a long 4 years for them. I suppose this has been a bogeyman for the communists to conjure up since the end of W.W.II. Does anyone remember Orson Welle's silly film "The Stranger" about a Nazi war criminal that is hiding in plain sight in New Bedford Falls, Connecticut? Commies have been seeing Nazi's everywhere, even under the couch! This is nothing new.
Its all part of the show ,,keep your pants on,it wil get better as we go along.
Nazis under every bed!!!!
If they truly believed this they would be making preparations to flee the country or to assist with/participate in armed resistance. Haven't heard about convoys heading to Canada or people heading to the hills to become guerilla fighters.
Sho' nuff. I file this under "things I must have known at one time but have forgotten."
Three must be a record.
Sensible spending .... American astronauts plant flag on Mars. What a nut.
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