"Kennedy spoke about the need for better study of the vaccine dosing schedule for newborns and the rise in chronic disease, while also rattling off statistics about the increase in autism rates despite
multiple studies that have shown no link between vaccines and the disorder and World Health Organization estimates that
immunizations have saved 154 million lives.. Here Trump redirected the conversation... while backing up Kennedy’s desire for more research.... He suggested to the drug company executives that they had nothing to fear from further investigation of the causes of autism, saying Kennedy could help put to rest vaccine hesitancy if no connection was found.
The aftermath of the dinner, which ended by all accounts with surprising warmth on all sides, has become the stuff of mini-legend in the week that has followed. Trump called it 'a little unusual' in a recent NBC News interview. 'At a point I thought, I can’t believe I am doing this,' another participant said, expressing a sentiment echoed by others."
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The new tag should be 'Pre-Dunking candidates', since this is the third one you've presented for Junior' in a week, and will be one of many more to come - for each of the nominees. This is how the process works, the management of perceptions. This is laying the foundation to vote down the nomination.
Tag: "Trump who outlasted mental derangement and denial"
Even people around here I appreciate have been strangely harsh on RFK as if the press would be telling the truth about his vaccine stance.
A healthy American child will likely receive up to 20 vaccines before it is even 6 years old. A healthy one, meaning children with health problems will likely receive more. This is a level of vaccination you will find nowhere else on earth. Not Europe. Not Japan. Not Canada. That stands out to me as not only odd, but corollary. I hope Kennedy's investigation is very thorough.
Robert "I have nothing against vaccines" Kennedy is a wolf in sheep's clothing, as he will soon be demonstrating. He's going to be a headache for Trump, who will come to regret appointing him to this position.
A huge cohort of the press is bought and paid for by the pharmaceutical industry. The big majors are on record having killed stories that could reflect badly on major advertisers like Pfizer, Glaxo, Merck, Bayer and Sanofi.
"Who doesn't want good things to happen?"
Pulleeeze.
Everyone on the left for whom power is FAR more important than actually serving the people.
That's a majority.
"And who doesn't want it to fail?! Who doesn't want good things to happen?"
you know the answer as well as we do.. The Democrat Party WANTS the destruction of the USA
""Who doesn't want good things to happen?" Pulleeeze. Everyone on the left for whom power is FAR more important than actually serving the people."
My point isn't that I can't image who these people might be. My point is to demand that they expose their hope for things to go badly.
Nothing in regards to vaccines causing autism has been "debunked." It's the same lie from the same people to told the world the mRNA vaccine was 100% safe and effective. The ridiculous long island ice tea cocktail pumped into America's kids has NEVER been studied.
The amount of young people and families of Generation Z and Generation Alpha is staggering. This is a crime against humanity.
There are a lot of people high up in the left that want the total collapse of civil order in the West. Don't kid yourself. Much of it is performative but the true believers hate Western society (anything white).
Our culture is losing its ability to appreciate subtlety.
100% agree. Trump owes him for his help during the last few weeks of the campaign but he needs to get rid of him ASAP. Wait 'til he starts talking about climate change and late term abortions.
Ever seen a Joy Reid or Ibrahim X. Kendi talk? They hate American and European culture openly.
RFK Jr. telling John Stossel without hesitation that vaccines cause autism.
He’s right. And has the balls and fortitude to say it.
The legal and financial implications for pharma and the medical industry is massive. It’s the only reason for the blanket denials and bullshit “debunk” claims.
Do you really think these people (Fauci, Gates, Big Pharma CEOs) give a shit about your kids or grandkids??
How about the tag... "Trump is like Jesus"
Haven't you seen this ad on Fox News for Dr. David Jeremiah's "The Coming Golden Age."
...one of these days, when Jesus comes back... the wolf will lie down with the lamb and the leopard will lie down with the young goat.
I like photo of the kid doing the Vulcan mind-meld with the elephant.
"Wait 'til he starts talking about climate change and late term abortions."
Who cares what he says about things not under his purview?
the most likely, to me, link to autism that has come out of research, obviously there is a genetic predisposition, but the most likely link that I have seen in research is the introduction of television. This has been studies in terms of autism rates being correlated with the introduction of cable TV to an area. scholar.google.com is your friend in this question.
There are Democrat proxies marching at universities and saying "Death to America." In America. But perhaps what you are waiting for is a Rush-like "I hope he fails" statement. I doubt we will get the close parallel, "I hope he can't rescue our economy and border situation from the overflowing toilet Biden left us."
I challenge any Boomer or Generation X member, to call their doctor and tell them you want to catch up on the Generation Z and Generation Alpha vaccine schedule. The entire fucking cocktail. Hepatitis B and all the mRNA Covid bullshit now on the schedule.
I triple dog dare ya!
We all know, even among the most hard core liberal deniers, there is suspicion. ZERO adults would sign up to for the challenge above. ZERO. We have been lied to and RFK Jr. is telling the truth.
Please God, protect him.
That Crockett congresscritter openly says "end whiteness," which is kind of genocide-ish.
There is genetic predisposition in everything. One person can smoke for 50 years and never gets cancer. Another for ten years and they are screwed.
The cocktail is not going to affect every kid the same way. 149 out of 150 for Gen Z were fine. 34 out of 35 in Gen Alpha are fine. That's why people turn their cheek.
And how do we know these assholes have batch and volume control?
Before the modern medical era (last 200 years or so), many children died before reaching adulthood. Today, almost everyone with marginal health/marginal mental health makes it.
I think some of the rise of autism reflects ordinary variations that would have previously resulted in "simple-minded" people with simple careers but not be diagnosed as a medical condition. Some of them would have previously died from accidents working on farms or in mines, or from parental abandoment.
Look at the way adults dropped of instantly from getting COVID mRNA boosters when the choice was theirs to make. After being lied to and coerced, 2/3rds of America took COVID shots 1 and 2.
Then, when it came to boosters 3, 4, and 5, the participation rates fell off a cliff. So did Pfizer's stock price.
But parents walk into a pediatricians office, trusting them, and are willfully kept blind to the risks. "What a beautiful baby you have there. We're gonna stick him six times this morning, and than another at the three month follow up visit. It'll be fine. We know what were doing. It's not about the money. Trust us."
The millions of people who will see that crap coming from the Trump Administration, played up on the MSM night after night. That's who. And, oh yeah, Donald Trump.
And it's not just what he says about stuff not in his purview - it's very much as well the wild stuff that he'll be blabbering about vaccination.
Adjuvants, inflammatory responses, and pathogenic progress are several risks incurred from both vaccines and inoculations. The leading cause of improved human viability is sanitation, and, of course, ending the performance of human rites, the wicked solution, in progressive sects.
Kids 200 plus years ago died from all kinds of things prior to penicillin. Nobody is claiming all vaccines are bad. But the autism numbers aren't small, and it is not just a case of a new classification or recognition of the "simple minded". If you had it affect your life you wouldn't make that claim. The vaccine schedule since the 1987 pharma release from liability is ridiculous.
"The millions of people who will see that crap coming from the Trump Administration, played up on the MSM night after night. That's who. And, oh yeah, Donald Trump."
But it's not coming from the "Trump Administration". But yeah, Trump could make it a thing instead of saying "I don't give a crap what the head of HHS says about climate change.
Their portrayal of Trump was all constructed nonsense. Anyone who grew up in New York during Trump's life knows it. I certainly did. He's a big talking Queens boy. He was a self-promoter, of course. But when was he ever a racist? He was a regular on Letterman, Regis, and the other New York shows and they loved him. Then he beat Hillary, then the nonsense started, and he became a monster in their portrayal. But go back and listen to his acceptance speech in 2016. He was reaching out for unity and trying to send good will even back then.
>But it's not coming from the "Trump Administration"<
Kennedy will be a member of the Trump Administration - a prominent one. Do you think he will be posting comments as a private citizen in some obscure journal or something?
Of course his pontifications will be coming from the Trump Administration. Until Donald fires him, anyway. And if you think Donald will be able to shut him up, you don't know much about RFK. Hint: He doesn't need Trump or that job.
It's not just autism that has grown. We have anxiety and ADHD, for example. We have peanut allergies. We don't know why these are growing. We should do everything possible to find out. MAHA is the first time people have thought of this as part of a political program, but these issues (together with obesity) affect our families in profound and permanent ways.
REgardles of whether you think Junior' is a crank or a crusader, the two underlying questions that are the heart of the issue, that are steadfastly ignored in the coverage are:
1. Should vaccines be subjected to the same rigorous, transparent double-blind testing protocols to determine their safe long term application, just like any other injectable drug?
2. Should any company be exempted from legal restitution for damages arising from their products, in particular death and/or long term or permanent human illness or disability?
HCQ has saved millions of lives. Ivermectin has saved millions of lives. Early disposal of masks has saved millions of lives. Sexual commitment has saved millions of lives has been a boon for a viable Posterity. Waste management has saved billions of lives.
The US is buying 3 new icebreakers. Name one of them the Donald J Trump.
I was born in the mid Sixties. I have four very competent friend and acquaintance couples whose children have pretty severe, obvious autism
The similarity between these people (and very good parents) is that at least one of all four couples were on long term anxiety or depression drugs.
I haven’t seen much research into that. Admittedly, use of these same drugs are quite common and even unregulated in Western, First World countries with far lower percentages of autism. But a teacher of autistic children I know very well says all sorts of children from severely deprived backgrounds are labeled autistic when it’s obvious to all the teachers that their problems lie in lack of discipline, exposure to violence, pure chaos at home, and no early childhood parenting at all.
She got tired of being mauled by these kids, some grade schoolers larger and stronger than she is. And she couldn’t fight back.
Where is The Last Psychiatrist blog when we need him? This is his firsthand argument while treating many hundreds of deprived kids. For certain irresponsible parents in the underclass, a disability diagnosis is another $800 plus lots more benefits per kid in NYC, at least.
We Children of Men (the 1992 PD James book) need more research to even begin to untangle this Gordian knot. Thank God for Trump.
But RFK Jr. took the normal course of normal vaccines and his kids did too. Our lying media just can’t parse the difference.
A new tag: Correlation does not prove causation
The only thing that comes from the Trump Administration is what's supported by Donald Trump. The rest is just democrat/press blather. You can choose to play their game and get all hot and bothered about what RFK says about climate change. I'll pass.
It is amazing what happens when the democrat media sort of acts like honest media.
That's why a freer hand should be given to those willing to prove a hypothesis. As Trump said, Kennedy and millions of others might be wrong, it's the secrecy, immunity, and seeming lack of inquisitiveness within that industry that appears damning.
Meanwhile, his statements on punitive tariffs have the business workd alarmed.
There are trade-offs. There are ALWAYS trade-offs, but you can't figure out how to balance those without doing a lot of honest research and then evaluating it honestly, and out "public health community" seems completely incapable of doing that.
Sunscreen is useful to prevent sunburns. Slathering up African-American kids in Massachusetts in APRIL before they go outside for a 30-minute recess is idiotic, but that's what every daycare in Massachusetts was doing because the dermatologists said that there were no trade-offs with sunscreen. (Well, except for chronic Vitamin D deficiency, and all the complex photochemistry in the skin and capillaries that we don't understand well enough to know how important it is).
"If masks save even one person from covid..." because really what does it hurt you to wear a mask? (Well, except for people with deviated septums, COPD, skin conditions, etc. for whom the masks led to major complications and even surgeries).
It's the same thing with vaccines. There are benefits and there are side effects. Some people are harmed and others are protected. The thing to do is to figure out what exactly those are and then evaluate the trade-offs. But that's impossible if you don't have accurate safety and efficacy data, and we don't.
What drives me crazy is that if we did really good research with all the tools we now have with (including genomics, inexpensive individual sequencing, fast and accurate blood tests, etc.) we might be able to determine which individuals were more likely to be harmed and which were more likely to be helped.
But as we saw during covid, when institutions refused to allow antibody titer to be a reason not get vaccinated or boosted, what matters to the "public health community" is uniformity, "messaging," and, most of all, administrative convenience.
Most of them seem pretty transparent about it.
Anyone not corrupt - should abandon the corrupt democrat party.
Sadly - too much mob and money on the line for the crooks and liars.
"Kennedy could help put to rest vaccine hesitancy if no connection was found"
What if they already KNOW there is a direct connection, and just have made the decision that this outcome is better than the alternatives and they're just not announcing it because nobody would understand (or maybe agree) with their position.
There is no evidence our drug industry is influenced by anything other than political science.
Why is it always the default Republican position that everybody wants to do good? Many do not. And there is a substantial body of evidence for that proposition.
My point is to demand that they expose their hope for things to go badly.
And this has been different than what the Republicans (and the vast majority of your commenters) did throughout the Obama and Biden administrations, how exactly?
This is just an outright lie.
but the most likely link that I have seen in research is the introduction of television.
You just don't buy the whole "correlation is not causation" thing, do you? Especially since autism mostly manifests long before most infants have watched a damn thing on tv.
yeah, ok. Have you ever been around an autistic child in his or her home environment, Freder?
But when was he ever a racist?
When he and his dad refused to rent to Black people. Also, when he advocated the death penalty for the Central Park Five even after a confession and DNA confirmation from the actual rapist.
… despite multiple studies that have shown no link between vaccines and [autism]
I have two problems with this sort of comment. The first is very basic — if you aren’t going to link to any of those “multiple studies” so that I can examine the data and the methodology then this assertion amounts to “trust us.” After 2019 and 2020 why on earth would I do that?
Secondly, the rise in diagnoses of autism are real, well-documented, and pretty damned frightening. If it’s not impurities in the vaccines then what the F*** is causing it?. All that effort to exonerate vaccines, how about we put some of that effort — and money — into figuring out? If it isn’t the vaccines causing the rise in autism, then what really is causing it?
So far I’ve read only one such effort, published in Wired decades ago to the best of my recollection, which hypothesized that that once upon a time in recent memory autistic men had very, very limited access to marriagdd we’d partners due to their, ah, truncated social skills. But today a high functioning autistic man might be pulling down a salary north of $250,000, and that this made them much more marriageable, social skills be damned. Thus the autistic males pass their genes on to another generation. (Or, to paraphrase Donald J. Trump, if you have enough money they’ll let you grab ‘em by the …)
And that explanation from Wired combines implausibility with a lack of raw data. So where’s a real study with real data?
https://substack.com/@rwmalonemd/note/c-81685380
Pray for the dead and wounded in Madison today...
Any news meade? Is that school near you?
LOTS of police responding; they revised DOWN the death count which must be a relief to some families...
END THESE WARS, or US involvement in them anyway. We cannot continue to teach the children, even the Christian children, that the way the world works is the winner picks up the gun... and uses it. NO.
... and don't you dare, any of you, try to tell me our "national defense and committment to our allies" is one thing, and the young people in our society picking up on the war-prepping mood in this society is not related.
Kids learn what you teach them. I still believe in Reason/Law over Violence/Force. Do you? I thought Trump did... I hope he's not going to be as "swayable" in office as good old Joe, barely hanging on until mid-January...
Is this national news where you people are at?
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/2-killed-6-hurt-in-shooting-at-christian-school-in-wisconsin/ar-AA1vXTvk?ocid=msedgntp&pc=DCTS&cvid=94c11a4eddca45fd9a4b4b521f2f0551&ei=8
"What drives me crazy is that if we did really good research with all the tools we now have with (including genomics, inexpensive individual sequencing, fast and accurate blood tests, etc.) we might be able to determine which individuals were more likely to be harmed and which were more likely to be helped."
The downside here is that doing this might generate results that indicated that different groups of people had different risk levels. And in the "everybody is equal and interchangeable" society we live in today, we can't have that.
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