"... for a legal procedure they once could have had at home. But not everyone has been able to leave the state. Some people couldn’t take time away from work or afford gas, while others, faced with a long journey, decided to stay pregnant. Nearly 10 months into the Texas law, they have started having the babies they never planned to carry to term.
Texas offers a glimpse of what much of the country would face if the Supreme Court overturns
Roe v. Wade this summer... Sometimes Brooke imagined her life if she hadn’t gotten pregnant, and if Texas hadn’t banned abortion just days after she decided that she wanted one. She would have been in school, rushing from class to her shift at Texas Roadhouse, eyes on a real estate license that would finally get her out of Corpus Christi. She pictured an apartment in Austin and enough money for a trip to Hawaii, where she would swim with dolphins in water so clear she could see her toes.
When both babies finally started eating, Brooke took out her phone and restarted the timer that had been running almost continuously since the day they were born. She had two and a half hours until they’d have to eat again."
From "This Texas teen wanted an abortion. She now has twins. Brooke Alexander found out she was pregnant 48 hours before the Texas abortion ban took effect" (WaPo). This is a long piece by Caroline Kitchener that has lots of details about one 18-year-old who has her babies and lives with and has married their father. The father, also a teenager, is joining the Air Force.
I anticipate that many of my readers will see those first words — "For many Texans who have needed abortions..." — and set to work writing comments about the word "needed."
Also, today is an opinion announcement day at the Supreme Court. There is only one more announcement day after today, so there's a good chance that today could be the day for the abortion case. I like to follow the live-blogging of announcements at SCOTUSblog.
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"for a legal procedure they once could have had at home."
At home? At home abortion? really?
"..eyes on a real estate license that would finally get her out of Corpus Christi. She pictured an apartment in Austin and enough money for a trip to Hawaii, where she would swim with dolphins in water so clear she could see her toes."
wow - abortion is like swimming with dolphins now.
Of course, you could consider taking your kids with you to swim with dolphins. Imagine that. could be fun.
will white antifa start burning stuff down after the court goes federalist?
who will be the radicalized-by-the-press lunatic ho will inevitably hurt innocent people over their Joy Behar Jimmy Kimmel clobert rage?
I've seen lots of screenshots of this piece. The author really wants you to feel sorry for this girl, but she seems very happy to have twins. WaPo readers hardest hit.
I love how they always romanticize the “if onlys…”
IF ONLY she had that abortion, she would have completed her real estate license and would have taken that dream vacation to Hawaii.
I was not a teen mother. I had my children in marriage and they were (mostly, haha) planned. I was one of those rare unicorns who didn’t even have sex until my wedding night. But in my time before having children, life STILL was not so easy, nor did all my dreams comes true in that time frame. I never graduated from college (long story there), I lived with my mom until I was 23, and I certainly didn’t get to go to Hawaii. Life was full of obstacles, and it had nothing to do with whether or not I had access to abortion.
Life is hard when you have children and it’s also hard when you don’t have children. The pro-aborts loooooove making it sound like life is just so darn perfect if you don’t have those pesky kids to tote around all day.
"Sometimes Brooke imagined her life if she hadn’t gotten pregnant,..."
It would be interesting to see- though it'll never happen- a follow up to Brooke and Brooke's life 10 years, 20 years hence. Like the movie by Richard Linklater, "Boyhood", where he followed a life from boyhood on. It would be interesting to see how Brooke's life, and that of her kids evolved. And if Brooke ends up seeing her life as fulfilled with her children, loving her kids beyond words, and instead of seeing them as an obstacle to swimming with dolphins off the coast of Hawaii, seeing them as the single greatest achievement of her life.
Or something else. Either way, it's pretty vapid to portray this as the end of Brooke's life as we know it. Her life is just beginning and no one- not the columnist, not Brooke, not her husband, knows how it'd going to turn out or what paths it will take. This is an article about inconvenience, for now. For today. It's such a small view of life it's embarrassing.
wow - abortion is like swimming with dolphins now.
Yep. WaPo "journalist" spends a lot of time with a lower class woman, asks her to tell her all her hopes and dreams and then writes them down in earnest because it helps The Narrative.
I disapprove of swimming with dolphins. The dolphins are not smiling and their propensity to attempt rape is scarcely proof that they love swimming with us.
how come she didn't put them up for adoption?
how come she DOESN'T put them up for adoption?
is it because.. Now that she HAS them, she WANTS them?
Just asking
They can blame Biden for the high gas prices.
Dodds will be the last opinion released and it won't be before a weekend. Riots are coming to America and there is no need to make it easier to riot.
Here's an idea, Brooke: Don't get pregnant unless you want to.
Here's another idea to build on that one: Go down to your local Texas Planned Parenthood -- where you would have otherwise gotten your birth control freakin' abortion - and have those people, who are supposedly in the business of planning parenthood, help you plan yours. They have devices and pills and, lord knows, gynecologists, that can do just that.
If you abort all your kids, who will be there to cry at your funeral?
Nice article. But it needs to be revisited 16 years from now. Let's get the perspective all those impacted.
The Texas law was signed on May 15, 2021, to take effect in September 1, 2021. It bans abortions once a heartbeat can be detected, which can occur as early as six weeks. The law provided 3 1/2 months (more than 15 weeks) notice before it took effect. Further, she could have gone elsewhere and had the procedure performed, but chose not to. How much did that phone that she resets the timer run - less than the "hundreds of dollars" it would have cost?
"Some people couldn’t ... afford gas,"
So it's Biden’s fault?
This is the sentence that caught my eye.
Nearly 10 months into the Texas law, they have started having the babies they never planned to carry to term.
Abortion on demand is birth control. The pretention that is not is the problem. It leads the young to believe it's ok to have unprotected sex. Because if they get pregnant, they can just have an abortion. It leads to risky behavior.
Why is it that anti-gun advocates make this very same argument, that easy access to guns leads to senseless killing, like Uvalde, but then turn around and say easy access to abortion doesn't lead to risky sexual behavior?
What if ten years from now she is divorced, with a deadbeat exhusband, and working at Walmart. Still wanna see that?
I am not saying abortion would have been better, but I wish we still lived in the days when kids could be raised by older, more responsible, relatives with no shame involved.
For many Texans who have needed abortions since September, the law has been a major inconvenience
Shouldn't the act of ending a life be at least a little inconvenient?
For some reason, this reminded me of an article I read years ago, that suggested that the president's nuclear launch codes should be literally placed inside the chest of an aide...and the president would be given a butcher knife. This meant that the president would literally have to kill another human being with his bare hands before he could launch nukes. (I remember thinking, "That's a great idea...if you could get the Russians to do the same thing!")
If the right to abortion is justified on the basis of women's claim to "autonomy," surely autonomous women don't need, and wouldn't want, anyone's help procuring one, for fear of having their autonomy infringed.
Since the use of contraception and the morning-after pill now make unwanted pregnancies entirely preventable, the fact that so many pregnancies still end in abortion signifies that the demand for abortion rights really reflects the claim to have the right to carefree, careless, unprotected sex, at any time, with anyone.
"Brooke took out her phone and restarted the timer that had been running almost continuously since the day they were born. She had two and a half hours until they’d have to eat again"
Ah the oppressiveness of keeping those ravenous infant eaters alive!
You’d expect hundreds of thousands to choose preventative measures at this point. This is not a positive indicator of the intelligence level of the average abortion seeker then. I hadn’t realized how much the flood of baby parts profit had turned Democrats away from even mentioning birth control but the results speak for themselves.
My problem is not only with "needed" but so with "forcing".
Yes we react to sentences like “she remembered him saying, ‘you could always get an abortion.’” So they consciously rejected acting responsibly. This article is bound to create the opposite reaction from the author’s not so subtle intentions.
Should abortion be legal for a woman who was raped by dolphins?
Temujin has it right. Life is full of choices and each one has a consequence that you cannot anticipate. Each decision is agathokakological and a schrodinger's cat kind of affair. You cannot know the results of your decisions until after you have made it and let it play out. In 20 years will you think those children were the greatest joy in your life, a joy so rich you would have never traded away for a mere dolphin swim? Will the opportunity cost of your life put you underwater in the joy category because you chose to abort what could have been the greatest asset ever? And after having spent more than 40 hours with these people will you have developed a deep relationship with them that you never could have imagined?
And she is happy that she didn't murder them. How refreshing. I'm glad she wasn't talked into murdering those cute little babies.
How weird that Ice Nine thinks PP employs OBGYNs. They are not health care providers despite the relentless PR on their behalf.
Seems to be a lot of contraceptive failure...
Consider the source - Washington Post.
In fact, the mother is GLAD and HAPPY that she gave birth to her babies.
"How weird that Ice Nine thinks PP employs OBGYNs. They are not health care providers despite the relentless PR on their behalf."
How would you explain this article in the Wisconsin State Journal: "Planned Parenthood to stop offering abortions in Wisconsin after June 25 as U.S. Supreme Court decision looms"?
"“To suspend care on the same day for patients who have traveled great distance and at great cost is inconvenient in the least; traumatizing for those who are caught by surprise after a highly anticipated appointment under difficult circumstances; and dangerous for those who are in the midst of an abortion procedure,” Planned Parenthood of Wisconsin associate medical director Dr. Allison Linton said in a statement."
Twins right out of the gate. That's one hell of a learning curve. Bless her heart.
From the not Dobbs decision (and lifted from SCOTUS blog: Sotomayor: "With growing concern for where this Court will lead us next, I respectfully dissent."
How sweet it is.
Don Surber quotes additional detail :
Her parents advised her to abort their granddaughters.
"If you abort all your kids, who will be there to cry at your funeral?"
Who cares? When you're dead, you're dead; you don't know who is (or isn't) crying at your funeral.
>Mike (MJB Wolf) said...
How weird that Ice Nine thinks PP employs OBGYNs. They are not health care providers<
You are weirdly, shall we say, mistaken. PP does employ gynecologists (and of course refers out to a lot more). And they do provide health care.
Gynecology : does it refer to knowledge about birthing organ system or treatment and care? and override codes
"needed abortions".
Yea.
The inconvenience lies in your conscience, not geography. What's up with al these morally corrupt, sick, evil women that cherish abortion.
Any idea, Althouse?
Man, if you didn't know better wouldn't you think the photo editor is a secret pro-lifer?
Let's illustrate this article about the added hassle/difficulty of getting an abortion in Texas with several pictures of a mother with her two beautiful, lively infant girls.
Here's a close up of their precious little legs, pink healthy feet squished against each other as they sleep happily!
Two happy, healthy, wonderful little babies.
I'd trade everything I have for an hour with my baby and I'd give an eternity of anything for her to have been healthy. This woman has 2 healthy children she can spend a lifetime with and the final tone is moderately ambivalent? It's almost unbearable.
OK, dumb questions.... Does the SCOTUS have set dates for announcements? And, can they deviate from those? If they are set, what date is the referenced "final" date?
Yeah, yeah, I know.... Google is my friend.
Again, what is wrong with you people? Swallowing the Post's line hook and sinker? What is wrong with you?
Here is a more truthful presentation of what happened:
Texas Teen Who Wanted Abortion Now Blessed With Twin Babies: “A Miracle From the Lord”
When Brooke Alexander looks at her twin daughters, she realizes that Kendall and Olivia might not be alive without the Texas heartbeat law.
The 18-year-old from Corpus Christi, Texas, wanted an abortion, but the pro-life law stopped her from getting one, according to the Washington Post.
Now, despite her struggles with finances, relationships and future plans, Alexander is thankful for her baby girls.
“It’s really scary thinking that I wouldn’t have them,” she told the newspaper, as baby Olivia grasped her finger....
"A woman needs an abortion like a fish needs a bicycle"
"For many Texans who have needed abortions since September, the law has been a major inconvenience, forcing them to drive hundreds of miles, and pay hundreds of dollars..."
Just think how inconvenient it was for the babies...
'The dolphins are not smiling and their propensity to attempt rape is scarcely proof that they love swimming with us.'
They are super-predators...Biden told me so...
RMc said...For some reason, this reminded me of an article I read years ago, that suggested that the president's nuclear launch codes should be literally placed inside the chest of an aide...and the president would be given a butcher knife.
It was an interesting idea from a Harvard academic, Professor Roger Fisher:
Wiki - Fisher - Preventing Nuclear War
At the end of the article,
‘’She had two babies she loved more than anything else in the world.
Why use the past tense?
‘’She has two babies she loves more than anything else in the world.” They are still babies and she says she loves them.
I think Brooke will regret ever speaking to a reporter.
Agree with Althouse on swimming with Dolphins. Though I admit a guilty thrill when I read of a dolphin “trainer” drowned by one of her students.
Her parents advised her to abort their granddaughters.
The rot.
The more I read of this the more I believe it should have been Brooke who was aborted.
"Does the SCOTUS have set dates for announcements? And, can they deviate from those? If they are set, what date is the referenced "final" date?"
They can add opinion announcement days, and they probably will this time. Last I looked (this morning), there was one more day after today. That is Thursday.
Was Brooke conned into participating in this article? The article is relatively kind to her, but the pro-abortion rights point of view is still there. She has a lot of public exposure, and one day those twins will see this article and learn a lot about their origin.
What is interesting to me is that the reporter (etc) penning this article seems to have been trying to make the point that abortion limitations hurt women. So, this woman had unprotected sex with her boyfriend because he said that she could get an abortion. The law changed, she couldn’t, and ended up with two beautiful babies instead. While the feminists who read the NYT or WaPo might be horrified by this, probably a majority, and esp in a place like TX, see the pictures of the twins, and think how lucky, how blessed, she was, and is. If she had wanted to, she could probably have gotten rid of them, in a heartbeat, by putting them up for adoption. In short, the article may have worked for its intended audience of hard core feminists, but probably backfired with much of the rest of the country.
I think once abortion becomes subject to meaningful political debate, six weeks is probably much earlier than most states will end up with (although if it is, as I understand it, conditioned on detection of actual cardiac activity, it is likely to vary case to case). That said, there's an inertia here with our current crop of politicians. Just as many (most?) Democrats are unable to step back from the position that abortion should be legal at any time during pregnancy, right through the third trimester, Republicans in Texas, having drawn the line in the sand at six weeks (or thereabouts), are going to find it terribly difficult to retreat unless they start losing elections over it. Making an affirmative argument for an muddled equilibrium somewhere in the mushy middle is harder than making an argument for a position out in the pure extremes.
And frankly, abortion isn't particularly important for most voters, so it's going to take a while to work out. Stories written by pro-abortion writers, are also unlikely to do much to shift public opinion, I think, because in so many cases people who are pro-abortion seem to be writing primarily for people who already agree with them. A lot of times, my impression is that pro-abortion writers are incapable of the imaginative and sympathetic leap necessary to understand how anyone could disagree.
I know they say everything is bigger in Texas, but if you have “needed [an] abortion[] since September” haven’t you given birth by now?
while others, faced with a long journey, decided to stay pregnant.
WE DESPERATELY NEED ACCESS TO ABORTION!
Unless it's a long drive, of course. I mean, that's a pretty big hassle, so we'll just have the babies instead.
The Supreme Court is running out of time this term to announce this decision. I just hope that they aren’t flirting with not releasing it, or weakening it substantially. CJ Roberts appears to have greatly impaired the reputation of his court by siding with the Dems, and essentially installing FJB as President, by creating a new judicial doctrine in order to not hear the TX etc election case. But the harm to their reputation would probably be even greater if it turns out that the Dems and their feminists and shock troops could intimidate them to that extent. My hope is that the delay is just Roberts and the 3 Dems making last ditch attempts to weaken the decision. We shall see, one way or another.
Spare me. If you want an abortion go travel and get it.
“Can’t get off work”. Ludicrous
“Can’t travel”. Call any number of pro abortionists. Get on the local pro-abortion Facebook page and ask for a ride and/or help.
Maybe the pro abortion multi-gazillionaires could help out.
A civilized society should discourage the performance of rites for social, redistributive, clinical, and fair weather causes. Demos-cracy is aborted at The Twilight Fringe.
That said, Brooke has risen to the challenge of responsibility that accompanies an informed choice. With her daughters by her side, she will appreciate the extraordinary opportunity of living a life with dignity and agency, and not suffer a lifetime of Roe's regrets. Hopefully, the father will also recognize his humanity, the humanity of his partner, and the humanity of his daughters, and embrace maturity to proceed with positive effect for himself, for her, for them, and a common cause for all men and women. Good luck.
There is no mystery in sex and conception. A woman, and man, have four choices, and an equal right to self-defense through reconciliation. That said, six weeks to viability of baby(s), and an equal state of viability for granny, albeit with different local limits. The wicked solution is neither a good nor exclusive choice. Neither planned parenthood nor planned parent/hood can be tolerated, let alone normalized, in a civilized society.
She's gone from working in a restaurant and living with an abusive and stupid sounding mom, with coked out dad out of the picture, to moving into a supportive household, getting married, and with plans to get out of her home town sooner than she would have. Her husband is becoming a grown-up, and if he succeeds in the military will have skills and a career rather than being a mall rat and skateboarding his life away.
She has no bills except a high one for what must be quite an expensive car, and taxpayers covered her prenatal care and birth and cover the babies' medical needs. So the getting married now rather than earlier is a bit suspect, but good for them now anyway. Mazeltov! She'll still get WIC and possibly food stamps and free housing either way, even if her husband's family is middle-class. Pretty much every town has women's groups and churches and sometimes pregnancy centers that give away used wedding dresses and churches that offer free space to hold a small reception. She can get an annual 2500 tax credit -- that's cash to her, disguised as a tax break -- to finish getting her real estate degree. The couple will also get around 3500 to 4k in EITC each year.
15 weeks (actually 13 weeks as most laws count from last ovulation) means three missed periods, not two. In all that time she did nothing. I do not believe a girl that age ignores nausea and three missed periods. If she still wanted to abort, there are scores of nonprofits and other groups that cover some or all of the costs to go to other states, and also make loans and arrange the appointment, and she had five or six weeks to set this up. They prioritize second trimester cases and Texans now. Ending up at a crisis center twice is not credible -- by the first visit she would have known. Planned Parenthood and NARAL Texas is plastering the state with all this information. To answer the PP question, you're both half right: they do abortions in some states but not in others.
WaPo: "lying by omission and commission." That's better than "democracy dies in darkness."
This poor young woman will be followed around endlessly until her children are in college. The reporters will be desperately hoping they are abused and the family lives miserable lives.
And, Althouse is correct- the very thing I noticed in that excerpt was the word "needed"- it is a form of lying. "Wanted" is the correct term in this particular story. Where are the stories where the woman really needed and abortion? It can't be for the lack of looking for them, can it?
The abortion decision will surely be the last one released. I suspect that if there really is a majority for overturning Casey/Roe, it is 5-4 with Roberts in the minority, so he is holding the decision to the last moment in hopes the pressure will turn one of the majority's votes. I believe this because it has endangered his colleagues by making murdering one of them potentially a decision altering action, so if he is holding it to the last moment, it can only be to get a different decision.
Seems to me that traditionally Court finished by July 4, but the number of cases has declined drastically since I was in law school, and now they try and are able to finish by end of June.
Whoops sorry. I was thinking of the 15 week law. All else is true including missing three not two periods if she was 12 weeks along, as the abortion clinic would technically count her at 14 weeks from last ovulation.
If you rewrite it like this: "some people had to drive hundreds of miles to have their 2 year old killed" to see that an absolute right to abortion ignores the problem of when it becomes a crime. Why is the "giving birth" date the cutoff for many libs? Isn't it murder at that point?
@Althouse: I disapprove of swimming with dolphins. The dolphins are not smiling and their propensity to attempt rape is scarcely proof that they love swimming with us.
One of my more striking memories happened one too calm afternoon surfing in SoCal. Staring in vain at the horizon hoping for a wave, I saw a pod of six dolphins about a mile off shore working their way towards Malibu.
So, being younger and even dumber, I picked an intercept bearing and started paddling. About twenty minutes later, as I was reaching the merge, the dolphins disappeared. I assumed they would just bypass me, and keep on their way. I also pondered just how far out a mile is on a surfboard.
Then, just inches on either side, two of the dolphins erupted out of the water.
For the next five or so minutes, they put on a very up close and personal show.
And then resumed their journey. I was pumping so much adrenalin that even my fingernails were vibrating.
Almost certainly, these were completely wild animals. Yet despite that, they somehow recognized that I was a being that would appreciate their acrobatics.
"eyes on a real estate license that would finally get her out of Corpus Christi."
What the Hell?
A trip to New Mexico or Lake Charles is much cheaper than Hawaii. It isn’t easy but you could leave and be back in one day traveling by road. Of course, if she was pregnant just as the law went into effect, then high gas prices were not the problem. I know, I was driving from Corpus to Houston at that time. However Covid travel restrictions were a problem, which is why we vacationed in state. Interesting writing about an event nearly a year ago as if the problems that existed today existed then.
Let’s see. She was not on birth control. He did not use a condom. He did not pull out, or at any rate he did pull out in time. Levonorgestrel (aka Plan B OneStep) is available OTC but apparently was not purchased or ingested.
I think she wanted the babies.
is it necessary that Dobbs decision be announced at all?
abysses to stare into are usually from edge of cliff [hangers]
@Robert Cook, the only people who’ll cry at your funeral will be your creditors.
so if he is holding it to the last moment, it can only be to get a different decision.
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or waitign for Pelican to get the fish
"What if ten years from now she is divorced, with a deadbeat exhusband, and working at Walmart. Still wanna see that?"
Why not? What if she is? Are we supposed to think that divorced Walmart workers with deadbeat exes love their children any less? Do working class/working poor people so regret that they can't frolic with the dolphins and view their toes through clear Hawaiian waters they would wish their children away and feel shame to have their betters see what their lives have become?
Where is it written this woman will never be able to attain her realtors license someday? Who's to say she'll never see Hawaii or get to swim with the friggin' dolphins eventually? Her dreams may not come true on the timetable she first imagined as an idealistic teenager, but it doesn't mean they will never happen for her. Having to work harder or adjust goals to fit present realities isn't the same thing as having the door shut on her future forever, no matter how much the article would like to imply that. Infant feeding schedules don't continue on in perpetuity. If her ambitions are real enough for her, they will outlast her twin's infancies and be there for however long it takes for her to realize them.
pro-abortion writers are incapable of the imaginative and sympathetic leap necessary to understand how anyone could disagree
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are they all childless women persyns? or capable of seeing both situations?
I hope the Air Force teaches the young husband a useful job skill that will eventually lead to good job opportunities in civilian life, self-discipline, and responsibility. I came of age in the 1960s, when fathers kept shotguns in the hall closet and stories about brides with bellies were not uncommon. Many such marriages did not work out, the husband feeling trapped (though by his own mistake).
I wish the young family well. Pardon me for believing that Kitchener does not.
15 weeks (actually 13 weeks as most laws count from last ovulation) means three missed periods, not two. In all that time she did nothing. I do not believe a girl that age ignores nausea and three missed periods. If she still wanted to abort, there are scores of nonprofits and other groups that cover some or all of the costs to go to other states, and also make loans and arrange the appointment, and she had five or six weeks to set this up.
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text book scenario for bidding for ?acquring souls! and/or body parts
will politics of abortion = to bidding stamina?
"If only these babies were dead, this girl could be swimming in Hawaii!"
Lol
Know thy enemy, and you will avoid saying things that sound completely insane to him as you attempt to persuade.
Well AA my local blood bank also has a physician and medical director in charge, yet they don't provide healthcare. I could be out of date, as I am writing from memory, and relying on a detailed survey I read several years ago. Despite the talk about "screening" and "testing" the average PP location was limited to occasional pelvic exams, no MRI no ultrasound. Sure the state office has a medical director because some, how many I can't reliably quantify at this time, might offer more than basic services. My recollection is bolstered by the more recent memory where Republicans proposed that only PP with doctors who had admitting privileges at a local hospital should perform abortions, which was rejected as extreme and unworkable. Again, contemporaneous reports referenced that very few PP had the ability to perform any medical procedures beyond pelvic exams and abortion.
Obamacare might have spurred some change in that regard. This announcement from PP from 2016 indicates they were adding such services at that time. Again the old noodle reminds me that there was some controversy during the Obama era, and some wiser people in the DNC were urging PP to branch out and offer more medical care. Apparently it worked.
And Ice Nine might be right! I withdraw my prior snark.
Bruce said: But the harm to their reputation would probably be even greater if it turns out that the Dems and their feminists and shock troops could intimidate them to that extent. My hope is that the delay is just Roberts and the 3 Dems making last ditch attempts to weaken the decision. We shall see, one way or another.
Personally, I am hoping the decision becomes unanimous due to the intimidation.
A big Fuck You to the maniacs and a warning against threats of against supremes and their families.
Yes I was mistaken, Ice Nine, perhaps even weirdly so, and using outdated data. If I quote another comment I try to be more accurate than that. My apologies to you for riffing off your comment and implying its weirdness, and I accept it being thrown right back at me. Cheers!
Wild animals are still wild even if you find them in the water. Do not approach.
I like this week of coming up with animal-related rules on the blog.
I hope Brooke, her babies, and their whole family have long, happy, loving lives together.
She could easily have placed those babies for adoption. When we were looking at our fertility options, we met couples looking to adopt who went as far as advertising on telephone poles outside high schools in low-income areas.
If they are set, what date is the referenced "final" date?"
The Court's calendar shows this Thursday as an opinion issuance day, and then next Monday as a non-argument day, meaning that they expect they will still be in session and will at least release orders on whether to grant cert review in cases or not. Those non-argument days often later get listed as opinion issuance days.
The Supreme Court is running out of time this term to announce this decision.
By past practice, yes, but technically, no. Technically, if the Court wants to issue the opinion this term, it has until the day before the next term begins, which is the first Monday in October.
Given the distribution of opinions between justices these past few weeks, I would not be surprised at an Alito decision this Thursday in Dobbs. It will NOT be 5-4, but 6-3, with CJ Roberts (maybe, maybe not) concurring in the judgment only (which only extends to the constitutionality of the Mississippi law) and not signing onto the Court's opinion which will go further to overrule the prior precedents of Roe and its progeny.
Note that in the story I linked to, she changed her mind after she saw an ultrasound.
An ultrasound that no abortion facility would have shown her. And by common practice, if she had hesitated, the abortion staff would have tried to pressure her into going through with it.
Then they would have also demanded payment.
So, just to be clear?
Being childless is SUCH AN IMPORTANT THING; you're willing to do ANYTHING, up to and including murder?
ANYTHING!!! EXCEPT:
driving a couple of hours?
using birth control?
condoms?
NOT HAVING SEX?
but! Other than THOSE THINGS,, Being childless is SUCH AN IMPORTANT THING;
that you're willing to do ANYTHING, up to and including murder?
Do i have that right?
"Abortion is healthcare!!!!"
That's what the pro-abortionists insist, despite the fact that pregnancy is not a disease but is the body acting in a natural way, and babies are not tumors. "Elective" abortion, on the other hand, is an intervention to make the healthy body dysfunctional in the one case, and dead in the other.
It is possible that the majority opinion and concurrences and dissents and rebuttals to the foregoing have been completed for some time. There are good reasons why Roberts would want to push the thing out as soon as it is done just to be done with it. Every day that it remains in the Court's pocket is another day for more and more and more revisions to draft opinions. If it is done, hit send.
On the other hand, the Court might hold on to the opinion for a time, not in order for justices to "get out of town," but given the public threats and recent agitation by Jane's Revenge, et al., to let them get some of that energy out of their system.
A delay in issuing Dobbs could also be attributed to the possibility that the Court wants to do some upgrades to its IT system so that the site doesn't crash when the opinion is released due to so many people trying to access it.
Maybe the are setting up additional servers, maybe they will email the opinion out to various outlets to post on their own webpages.
Many people are inconvenient by travel for medical treatment of all sorts. Those folks in Texas have it easy compared to the inhabitants of Angle Inlet, Minnesota.
Google map it.
I hope Brooke, her babies, and their whole family have long, happy, loving lives together.
Yes, it sounds like it's mom, dad, and their daughters. The hardest job they will ever love.
Nostradamus or just Alice? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPiSGzL3uN4
So Long little Betty...
Nostradamus or just Alice? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPiSGzL3uN4
So Long little Betty...
Worth mentioning: I hadn't given them much thought until recently, but articles like this make me grateful for "pregnancy crisis centers" and open to the possibility that they do a lot of good (notwithstanding a fear that they may improperly "target" vulnerable young people for religious pressure/proselytizing etc).
I'm almost certain the article wasn't written to demonstrate a success story of that kind (with the center responsible for a fantastic outcome) but, to me at least, it sure did.
Roe's regrets. Jane's jesters. Brooke: wife and mother, and Billy: husband and father's bounty.
so, IF/WHEN the supreme court tosses Roe v Wade..
Pro Abortion people are going to rise up and riot and Kill and Murder?
And they're going to do that, because they're Upset, that people think Abortion is Murder?
Do i have that right?
So; it's the same way that followers of The Religion of Peace will rise up and Kill and Murder
you if you DARE to imply that Islam is NOT the Religion of Peace?
Just Checking
At home abortion turns up 268 million Google hits.
“The Humane Society of the United States is strongly opposed to captive SWTD attractions and believes these programs, even if strictly regulated, pose an immediate threat to the safety of both human and dolphin participants. The HSUS opposes the capture of all marine mammals from the wild for any type of public display or entertainment. The very nature of these animals makes them uniquely unsuited to confinement. In the wild, dolphins live in large groups (called pods), often in tight family units. Social bonds often last for many years. In some species, they last for a lifetime. Dolphins travel long distances each day, sometimes swimming in a straight line for a hundred miles, other times remaining in a certain area for hours or days, moving several miles along a coastline and then turning to retrace their path. These marine mammals can dive up to several hundred feet and can stay underwater for 15 minutes or more. They spend only 10 to 20% of their time at the surface. The sea is to dolphins much as the air is to birds—it is a three-dimensional environment, where they can move up and down and side to side. But dolphins don't stop to perch. They never come to shore. Dolphins are always swimming, even when they "sleep." They are always aware, and always moving. Understanding this, it is difficult to imagine the tragedy of life in captivity for these ocean creatures.”
https://www.humanesociety.org/resources/swim-dolphins-attractions
“ Note that in the story I linked to, she changed her mind after she saw an ultrasound.…”
Mike, the story you linked to is just taking things from the WaPo article that I linked to!
I couldn’t copy the whole article, but it’s full of things and your article is just choosing some different things. But I intend for people to click through and read the whole thing.
Today’s Ben Shapiro podcast reads a lot of this WaPo article and comments at length. Shapiro’s point is they tried to write a pro-abortion article and accidentally wrote an anti-abortion article.
Mike, the story you linked to is just taking things from the WaPo article that I linked to!
You miss the point, Annette.
"Blogger Ann Althouse said...
I disapprove of swimming with dolphins. The dolphins are not smiling and their propensity to attempt rape is scarcely proof that they love swimming with us."
There is an old saying that goes it is better to swim with the dolphins than swim with the fishes. :)
for a legal procedure they once could have had at home.
Way to start with an obvious lie
But not everyone has been able to leave the state. Some people couldn’t take time away from work or afford gas, while others, faced with a long journey, decided to stay pregnant
The law gives you until weeks after you should have had your last period. You don't want to have a kid? Well, when you miss your period, you get a freakign pregnancy test and find out.
If you can't afford the pregnancy test, you for sure can't afford the abortion
Texas offers a glimpse of what much of the country would face if the Supreme Court overturns Roe v. Wade this summer
Lovely babies being born instead of killed. Kids having to learn responsibility and becoming better people.
Oh, the horror!
>Mike (MJB Wolf) said...
...apologies, etc...<
It's cool, Wolf; not necessary. But, thx.
JAORE said...
OK, dumb questions.... Does the SCOTUS have set dates for announcements? And, can they deviate from those? If they are set, what date is the referenced "final" date?
https://www.supremecourt.gov/
Has a calendar on the main page. Currently nothing in July.
Have a Conference / Opinion Issuance Day Thursday. They've been doing 5 cases / day, and have 13 left. So it's likely that they will also issue Monday 6/27 and Thursday 6/30.
But any updates will show up https://www.supremecourt.gov/
What will the Dobbs ruling be?
I disagree with Yancey Ward. There will not be a 5-4 decision
Option 1: Dobbs wins 6 - 3 overturning Roe and Casey. Because while Roberts doesn't want to nuke Roe yet, he even less wants it to lose 5-4
Option 2: Dobbs wins in a 2 - 4 - 3 (maybe even 3 - 3- 3) decision that does not over turn Roe. The controlling decision would be written by Roberts, saying the tDobbs wins, but we don't have to overturn Roe, so we won't. Then we have Alito, Thomas, and Gorsuch with the Alito opinion, and 1 or both of Kavanaugh / ACB with Roberts, the other with Alito
Option 3: Dobbs wins in a 5 - 1 - 3 decision overturning Roe and Casey, with Roberts the 1 agreeing with the resolution, but claiming it was not necessary to overthrow Roe / Casey to get it
While Option 3 is the last claimed state , I don't believe it is stable enough to survive to the Opinion release. If Roberts can't pull at least one of the five into his current concurrence, I strongly expect he will throw it away and just go with the Alito opinion.
Because "for the sake of the Court" 6-3 overturning a 5-4 decision "looks better"
Ann Althouse said...
Shapiro’s point is they tried to write a pro-abortion article and accidentally wrote an anti-abortion article.
IMAO, the biggest cost to the Left of having their agenda forced on America via the judiciary rather than legislative wins, and through big tech / academia censorship rather than argument and persuasion, is that they really suck at communicating their positions, because they're never forced to engage in debate and try to convince people.
This is seen in the racist leftists saying "those conservative gun lovers will change their tune when black people start buying them!"
No, actually, we've been celebrating law abiding black people buying guns for years now.
Then there's the religious bigot leftists saying "those conservatives are gonna change their minds on Carson when Muslims start using those vouchers!"
No, we won't
When you don't have to understand the other side, and therefore don't bother, it really cripples your ability to argue against them
The twins look cute. I am sure their parents love them, and they love their momma in a way they will only understand later in life when they learn they were her made possible by her love.
They started a GoFundMe if any are interested.
https://www.gofundme.com/f/brooke-billy-kendall-and-olivia?utm_campaign=m_pd+share-sheet&utm_medium=copy_link_all&utm_source=customer
finally read article in WaPo via HotAir.
Reporter has ability : could make bucks writing for HallMark movies that I would watch
Roe was 7-2.
So there are two human beings alive who shouldn't have been. I just can't get my head around the thought process of the abortionists.
"Roe was 7-2."
Roe's regrets? A woman, used, and, perhaps, the Court.
Keep Roe, Roe, Roe your... adjust viability of baby to match granny, and discourage elective abortion for social, redistributive, clinical, and fair weather causes. There is no mystery in sex and conception, the Pro-Choice "ethical" religion, not limited to the wicked solution, denies women and men's dignity and agency, and reduces human life to negotiable commodities.
The story inspired me to look up local Pregnancy Crisis Centers and see if they need donations.
Haven't seen much wall-to-wall coverage of the dozen or more firebombings of such centers around the nation in the last couple of weeks--on twitter the "Antifa" groups are bragging about them:
https://twitter.com/AntifaSac_/status/1536936663279992832?
This Friday added as opinion day. Nothing next week yet.
The abortion case will be last because it’s the one everyone is waiting for, and will overshadow all other cases in the public eye. So they will save it for last.
And the NY state gun case will be one of the last few, for similar reasons.
It’s good theatre this way.
time to rediscover contraception
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