A headline at The Daily Beast.
“I received a call from President Trump last week. We chatted about the election briefly [and] he made it clear that he wasn’t giving up on fighting for a second term,” said Eric Bolling, a Sinclair host and friend of the Trump family who appeared on Trump’s reality TV show years ago. “I mentioned to him that I believe whatever happens with the legal fights, he would emerge as the biggest media personality on the planet. Trump has a clear opportunity to be a media mega-personality post-presidency.”
“I think an Apprentice/Celebrity Apprentice revival would be a humongous hit,” Bolling added. “This iteration would be ratings gold for whomever is fortunate enough to get the reboot.”
First, never use "whomever" in speech. When you're wrong — as Bolling is here — it's the trying-too-hard kind of bad. Just say "whoever" and it doesn't matter if you're right or wrong.
Second, I can't picture Trump the ex-President going backward into an old show, but I can picture Trump doing something I can't picture, so there's that paradox. I can picture it at a level of abstraction where I can't see it.
What sort of "Apprentice" could he do? On the original show, the tasks the competing teams faced related to Trump's business. The new show could be about politics and have would-be political operators competing, but I think anyone with serious career ambitions would eschew connection to Trump... unless they wanted a career in Trumpist politics.
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Yesterday (or the day before) Althouse came into the comments to argue grammar rules.
Today, they can be ignored because reasons.
Cool.
I've never seen El Trumpo on any of his shows, and I wouldn't watch them now.
I"d still vote for him.
Bad idea.
So grammar doesn't matter in speech? The Hostess wants to kill Grammar......
THEOLDMAN
You can't go home again.
You can build a new home.
He should do the Apprentice, but the decision about whomever to fire will be made by the viewers voting by phone calls (like American Idol).
And the contestant who gets the least votes to be fired will be the contestant who will be fired.
"...but I think anyone with serious career ambitions would eschew connection to Trump... unless they wanted a career in Trumpist politics."
Trumpist politics is something of a misnomer. It isn't the "politics of Trump" so much as the things Trump has irrevocably changed. "Trumpist politics" is not going away. The veil is lifted. Serious career ambitions must now be reassessed within this context. I think a lot of serious people will maintain a connection to Trump, and he to many serious people.
He could go on SNL and do an Alec Baldwin impression.
"A career in Trumpist politics"
You mean representing those 75 million voters who are living real people ?
Have you noticed what happened to Fox's ratings when the Murdoch kids got them edging left ? I think I have detected some attempts to backtrack since the election but, since I don't watch, I can't be sure.
Nah, skip the media. He'll get more than enough attention through social media and political rallies. I could see Trump using the next 2-4 years to try and clear out members of the GOP whom he blames for either selling out the party, or simple incompetence in handling the election. There are going to be a lot of pissed off Trump supporters, and they want a leader in the coming intra-party fight.
Outside of politics, I'm still holding out hope for my dream of Trump Aerospace. Announce that he is forming a private venture to orbit a man around the Moon by 2024, as well as land a rover. Hire up young, hungry aerospace engineers, and contract with SpaceX for launch capabilities.
My view of Prez Trump is that he became president to do what needed to be done for the country.
I suspect he will do the same in his next steps.
So, I’m assuming this is a another unsourced fake news story pretending to be privy to what he thinks.
Trump should do a family court TV show.
He should do the Apprentice, but the contest will be about whomever cheats best.
Various situations will be arranged, and the contestants will compete to win by means of the cleverest cheating.
In my opinion Trump should get together with someone like Vince McMahon and invest in something like Parler, expand the platform to take on twitter and facebook simultaneously. I'd bet taking them down a peg or two would be very satisfying to him, and it would be a huge platform if it worked.
Instead of business, he could do apprentice for young politicians and the winner gets bankrolled for a congress run.
I liked him in the Apprentice not much in his role as president. He always has seemed more interested in his image and not very interested in the current job. With a tv job he can write off the expenses for a hair stylist and keep his orange look. I say go for it Trump and I will watch you on the Apprentice.
The excerpt shows someone else suggesting a return, not Trump asking about it.
Descriptive grammar, as opposed to prescriptive grammar, is about the rules that describe what sounds wrong.
"Who" can substitute for "whom" practically everywhere and sound okay. That's a grammar rule. As risk management, if you're the sort that can't reliably tell which to use, use "who."
The exception is as object of a fronted preposition. "For who the bell tolls" sounds wrong, but "Who the bell tolls for" sounds okay.
That's not a case error but a register rule. The fronted preposition is formal register, and who-for-whom is informal register, and mixed registers sound wrong.
Since "who" for "whom" sounds okay, it may sound pompous to use "whom" even when it's correct, as part of risk management.
I couldn't care less about the Apprentice. I never watched it when it was on and would have no desire to watch a Trump post Presidency Apprentice.
I'd rather see Trump get invloved with something like Newsmax or just generally working to increase the conservative footprint in news media. Since Fox News has become sort of like the Justice Roberts of the news world, there's a very real opportunity to capture a very large and underserved audience. And with the tech monopolists brazenly practicing story supression for the Dems, it's more important than ever.
"He always has seemed more interested in his image and not very interested in the current job."
-- People say this, and I just don't see how people see that. If Trump was more interested in his image and not in the job... there's a lot of different things he would have done, like not choosing to do unpopular, "impossible" things. Like getting a vaccine pushed through at Warp Speed.
Trump has his flaws, and as any successful CEO/politician, has a super sized ego, but I think people attribute an even GREATER inflated ego than he really has.
I want to see Trump buy and move to a run down farm in Indiana. “Darling, is the wind blowing today? I’d like to watch my favorite show — New Green Deal Acres”
The overuse of the "myself" grammatical punt is a more pressing issue than "whomever".
I'm half waiting to find out that his whole presidency was just a really, really long WWE storyline that will reconnect to the ring action in 2021.
It would be funny, though, if Trump ran a show where he trained younger people how to be his kind of political success at the local, state and national levels. It would be a weekly troll of the Swamp.
Which woke media outlet will put his show on TV?
He should do the Apprentice, but the firing decisions are not made by Trump in a board room at the top of a skyscraper.
Rather, the firing decisions are made by a demented old man in his home's basement. This demented basement-dweller makes all his decisions entirely on the basis of the candidates' gender, race, sexual orientation, physical handicaps and political radicalism.
I rather think Trump would enjoy launching a free speech social media platform.
He's got the seed corn, people know who he is now, and he understands Section 230.
Eighty million or so potential immediate users isn't a bad place to begin, either.
Think of it as the ultimate reality show.
I expect to read about Mr. Trump giving Mr. Biden a "hiding". Regularly, and "with FEELING".
Just saw Greg's post.
Both Parler and Gab have already turned themselves into fatally in-groupish walled gardens. Higher profile users like Ted Cruz are only using them as profile vehicles.
It may be that all-welcoming neutral platforms will always be imminently self-corrupting will-o'-the-wisps, but it would be interesting to see Trump try.
Eschewing connections to Trump is suggested - why?
His opponents, who damage those associated with Trump, are the problem, not Trump.
Why not get so many Trump supporters active, that the jackals who nip at his heels are destroyed?
Trump could use Apprentice to preview political candidates for future "election"
Mock primaries to challenge various prominent Democratic
Trump could do an Apprentice-type show for investigative journalism and media criticism.
Provide a platform for those laid-off, censored or shunned by the fake news media.
Competing teams can work stories from start to finish under a really good editor.
It'd be a good complement to developing a new publishing/social media platform.
AA: "... I think anyone with serious career ambitions would eschew connection to Trump... unless they wanted a career in Trumpist politics."
That's Oldthink.
Perhaps they want money and lots of it. Notoriety and the power that goes with it, regardless of how it is...garnered.
Perhaps millions, inspired by Trump's "paradoxical" behavior, will soon be inclined to do something you can't picture.
I can picture that.
Guess: Trump never said any of that.
He should start a new party. There has never been a better time to start one in my lifetime. Trump has 95% support in party, and probably would take 75% of those voters with him. It would be a great opportunity to attract minorities, attack corruption, and take power away from from anti-populist, anti-tea party Republicans like McConnell. Trumps likes revenge, this would be a great vehicle for that, while cleaning up politics.
@AA
Please consider not saying 'Trumpist.' It is insulting and beneath you. It's like when idiot conservatives say 'Killary' or 'Obummer.'
It's third grade-level insulting.
It puts you in Inga and Readering territory.
It's not a good look.
I would hope he'd have better ideas by now than going backward.
Oh, and new parties are hard. Whatever happened to the Reform Party?
As for the subject at hand, Trump would be better off buying or partnering with people who would buy CNN or another failing company with infrastructure in place.
Build a media empire and become the king-maker in the Republican party.
I don't think it would be too hard to flip the house and control the senate in 2022.
Pick a decent person to be president in 2024 and then go to town, purging RINOs once and for all.
Just a thought.
I think he is going to find himself cut out of everything. I don't think he's even going to find a comfortable place to live. The left is too invested in making him Hitler II, they are never going to let him go back to living a normal life. What they are doing to Ivanka and family are just previews.
"Which woke media outlet will put his show on TV?"
Once he is no longer POTUS they will fall all over each other to put him on. He's always good for that sort of business.
Eye On Washington, that's the behind-the-scenes show he ought to do.
Do to them what they did to him, only harder.
If I were PDT, and I lose by fraud, I would walk away from politics and politicians. Go do something else.
"The Hostess wants to kill Grammar......"
Kelsey unavailable for comment.
Because he's dead.
Althouse killed him.
The Apprentice task would be to create a fraud-proof election system.
Between Scotland, New Jersey and south Florida he can play golf 52 weeks a year.
If the GOP takes the House in 2022, he could be elected Speaker without having had to run for a seat in the House. Nothing in the Constitution says you have to be a member of the House to be its Speaker.
"If the GOP takes the House in 2022, he could be elected Speaker without having had to run for a seat in the House. Nothing in the Constitution says you have to be a member of the House to be its Speaker."
He could be a Supreme Court Justice too...don't have to be a lawyer.
I know, too old.
why do you keep quoting news stories from the Left-wing/DNC Media about Trump? They've been lying about him for 4 years, and their anonymous sources are fake. Its fake! Hello?
I don't care. I don't believe it. Show me the name of the person who talked to Trump.
I watched The Apprentice a few times. It was okay. It made capitalism and competition seem like fun. That was never my experience, but I suppose successful people experience such things differently.....Trump was like no other President we have ever had before and he will be like no other ex-President we have ever had before. I expect he'll play a lot of golf, but I don't see him painting watercolors of the Mar-a-Lago sunsets. Being ex-President will crimp his style. He can't host the Miss USA competition, but he'll find some way to not just remain in but to dominate the public stage.... He has some kind of weird symbiotic relationship with the media. They give him the most unflattering lighting available, but they keep him in the spotlight. It's more or less worked out okay for Trump. The unflattering coverage cost him his election, but it won him the previous one.
"but I think anyone with serious career ambitions would eschew connection to Trump"
Trump is the most popular Republican by a massive margin.What other Republican with a national presence could attract even 500 people to a speaking engagement. Why would an up and coming Republican politician eschew that.
If the law applied equally - Joe Biden would never have made it thru the primary - because he would be under federal investigation.
@ Howard: "Instead of business, he could do apprentice for young politicians and the winner gets bankrolled for a congress run."
Start a new political party. Instead of fighting with RINO's, have a renovation of the Republican Party.
Imagine if Trump did an Apprentice type show focused on small business people, especially in the minority communities -- the potential for real growth in this country. That would blow the Democratic Party and their virtue signalling out of the water.
Chuck intimates what we know - the corrupt left will never stop harassing Trump.
https://mobile.twitter.com/SenTomCotton/status/1339668602241372160
Trumpist.' It is insulting and beneath you. It's like when idiot conservatives say 'Killary' or 'Obummer.'
Not comparable at all. I don't like deliberate mangling of names either, but Trumpist denotes a follower of the man or his ideas. Yeah he had actual ideas, however poorly articulated.
And the vision thing too.
The man is the greatest improviser in human history. He’ll land on his feet like a fat orange cat with ten lives.
the corrupt left will never stop harassing Trump.
We saw this throughout the Obama administration. We saw this through 16 trimesters of witch hunts, warlock trials, and protests. They will harass anyone who does not kneel before them.
What other Republican with a national presence could attract even 500 people to a speaking engagement. Why would an up and coming Republican politician eschew that.
Overlapping and converging interests with the left, left of center, and the far-right (i.e. left-right nexus). Trump not only exposed, but confronted progressive corruption, domestic and foreign. He was notably conservative: Pro-Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness, without diversity for the People and our Posterity.
"For whomever" may be awkward, but it's not grammatically incorrect.
This first task should be how to steal an election. The second task should be how to run an election cleanly. I would watch that.
Alternatively he could do standup in Vegas.
Is there a reason to believe anything written in that article?
Your Santa Cruz is showing, Roz
Grammar matters in speech, but "whom" is a special case. It's a word that is dying and you sound stuffy if you use it, so you can dispense with it. If it's important to you to sound like you're writing when you're talking, you're taking a risk, and the people who use "whom" in speech OFTEN get it wrong, as Bolling did. So my advice is, don't use "whom" in speech. It's like saying "It's me" — grammatically wrong, but you sound weird saying "It's I." And the problem is worse because of the tendency to use it when you shouldn't. So it's like "between you and I." You're trying to sound fancy, AND you're wrong.
@Howard: My Santa Cruz is hanging on by a thread.
Everyone/they is another grammar anomaly: the singular they has replaced he or he/she
"Grammar experts agree that everyone is singular in the same way that words like apple and car are singular. We usually use everyone when we're talking about a group of people, so it may seem odd to think of it as singular. But remember that when you use the word everyone, you're describing something about each person in a larger group." (https://www.inpressionedit.com/2017/01/13/everyone-singular-plural-need-know/)
Use of they in this sense (everyone needs to feel that they matter) is becoming generally accepted both in speech and in writing, especially where it occurs after an indefinite pronoun such as everyone or someone, but should not be imposed by an editor if an author has used he or she consistently. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singular_they)
So much is going to be revealed about Trump in the months following Inauguration Day, when the pardon spigot has turned off, twitter treats him like any other user, and Fox News decides he has worn out his welcome.
This is nonsense.
“...and the people who use "whom" in speech OFTEN get it wrong”
Like people who pronounce the “t” in “often.”
Anywho, I like the idea that DJT’s new stuff will have a political angle. But, that stuff should just be the cover for a bunch of crazy hot gals with tight and minimal clothing. IOW, get back to the beauty pageants but cloak it as Christian Constitutional Programming. The good CCP will titillate and entertain the cult followers.
Not just the cult followers. Others won’t be able to look away, too.
"...but Trumpist denotes a follower of the man or his ideas."
Not so. Liberal have turned it into a slur.
Many believe in Trump's policies but aren't thrilled with the man himself.
'Trumpist' infers a slavish devotion, kind of like what liberals had for Obama and the crease in his pants. Or the female journalist willing to suck Clinton's cock as long as he kept abortion legal.
Trump may have followers, and even admirers, but none of those are 'Trumpists.'
How many think the press are so encouraged that their lies, deception and false reporting WORK ... that they just make shit up now. The American press is as toxic as the Party they represent.
Trump got democrats to vote for him. Not the ugly hive-mind progressive corruption-excusing blind-faith types - - no - the working class democrats who felt abandoned by both parties.
So when an asshole says the word "Trumpists" - that asshole is talking down to other democrats.
None of us have any idea of what he is going to do. He is sufficiently unique and willing to be that way despite millions of Americans hating his guts, that what he does will be unexpected and unusual. He surely "marches to a different drummer". That is what makes him attractive to some people and repulsive to others.
Trump might be figuring out a way to Get Even. He's just the guy to do it.
Tom T. said...
The excerpt shows someone else suggesting a return, not Trump asking about it.
I read the whole article. I'm sure you'll be shocked to hear that not a single person speaking on the record attributes the statement in the headline to President Trump.
And with a stunning lack of self-awareness, the article also accuses President Trump of lying when he denied previous unsourced gossip that they had published.
“Trump might be figuring out a way to Get Even. He's just the guy to do it.”
Maybe he’s good at getting even. Some say he became POTUS because BHO hurt his pride. Folks also say that he was motivated to equal the big developers and people in Manhattan who thought he was a POS. Here, he did not succeed.
Anywho, the one thing he’s better at than anything else is getting folks to follow his brand, and then to get those followers to give him money. Sometimes the followers see through the flim flam, like Trump U and other businesses that also failed when people turned away from DJT’s pitch. IDK if the current cult followers will stop giving money to DJT. At some point there’s probably a group of these people who will never tire of being tricked. Presumably this number of folks can be pumped for a good chunk of change. That’s the answer. That’s what DJT will be doing for the rest of his life. All sorts of media and all sorts of selling stuff. IOW: suck the rubes dry.
BTW, have any commenters here given money to DJT?
Yikes!
This is bullshit. I do not trust any of these articles that portray some insider knowledge. There is no way in hell that Trump re-visits "The Apprentice".
These are fabrications.
The Daily Beast?? Didn't we call that Newsweek at one time?
He should do the POLITICAL Apprentice. Trump leads the questioning of a group of wanna bes to find just thr right (Trumpian) candidate... for senator or Congress or Governor or Mayor. Take the show to all 50 States. The winners would have instant publicity and support. It would help build the Trump Party. Trump would be the kingmaker (his favorite role) and make a killing. The media will continue to have someone to hate and will go apeshit. Everybody wins!!
Trump. What a glorious 4 tears this has been. A man acting unapologetically. Who ever thought we would see that again? The man deserves to do whatever he wants, but... if he has not tired...this USofA could use a 2nd Party. Trump gets the Union Democrats, Trump gets men who chafe under Femworld, doesn't matter their color. Trump gets women, who hate Femworld, doesn't matter their color. He takes 60% of Democraticals. He takes 80% of Republicrats. After that, an opposition Party can be formed.
Our ossified 'Parties' are going to end one way or another.
Full disclosure, I did donate to DJT’s fundraiser for the troops when he skipped one of the R primary debates. And I did buy a MAGA hat Christmas ornament (w/ gold plated accents!).
But, The fundraiser was not supposed to go to DJT (after a WaPo report on DJT hoarding the dough, he did donate the it) . And, the hat was discounted from the original $100 full price. Also, it happened that this hat fits perfectly on my “Hillary for prison” bobble head, as I had hoped it would when I bought the hat. The funniness of that possibility was worth tossing a wee bit of dough to clown DJT. IMHO.
IOW, I’m not in the cult.
Regarding who/whom. I use whom, not always correctly, but learned my lesson from the early days of websites. I would see roofs, and try to correct the miscreant to rooves. I would see pleaded, and wondered what happened to 'pled'. You can imagine what happened in this raucous world of the internet. Spellcheck RULES for those who napped during English class, which is racist anyway.
Ann is one with whom I agree. (this time only) 'Whom' has drifted off to the misty past of hidden stashes of language.
Having made a lot of money due to Trump’s policies, I could afford to give a few bucks to his re-election campaign. Fat lot of good it did me. But if anybody cheated me, it wasn’t Trump.
It's funny to see these trolls appear and claim to be old commenters.
Now, we have this new one who calls himself "Blogger Sprezzatura said..."
I read one of his comments and recognized the crap. Either PB&J or the more recent troll who called himself some long ID I have forgotten.
Michael K caretaker of the comments.
“...who called himself some long ID I have forgotten.”
Math is tricky.
BTW Doc,
There is no hiding. If you click on the name it goes back to April of 2008. Always has, always will.
I use my other sock puppet accounts to F w/ you.
Duh.
The only donation I made in 2020 was to Tulsi Gabbard. She was rocking the Dem Primary world, and I wanted her to go as long as she could. I already knew the outcome, but some times I just throw money away.
As a bonus, I get texts from ActBlue now. So far, I've promised to murder for Bernie Sanders, and Burn Everything Down, if some Senator candidate chick doesn't win in my State. ActBlue is very supportive.
Thank God I don't have a 'smart' phone, or the Democratical FBI would be...wait. Did you hear a click?...I heard a click. Gotta go.
"Folks also say that he was motivated to equal the big developers and people in Manhattan who thought he was a POS. Here, he did not succeed."
You're right...all those skyscrapers with his name on them.
Fucking loser.
I use my other sock puppet accounts to F w/ you.
Duh.
Oh, I believe it. What's funny is you post the same idiocy and that's why I recognized you.
Blogger readering said...
Michael K caretaker of the comments.
Jesus ! if anyone took "care" of commenters you would have been banned as useless long ago. You dopes feel free to contaminate the comment threads. It's sort of a Gresham's Law of blogs. When the comments get overwhelmed with idiots, the blog dies. Sort of like Patterico and LGF. In Patterico's case, it was self inflicted. I wonder how he likes his new Soros "boss?"
Oh, Doc. You brought back memories. Little Green Footballs. To this day I do not understand how he turned on a dime, and went from burning brightly to embracing darkness.
Seeds on rocky ground, I guess. Been there myself.
“You're right...all those skyscrapers with his name on them.”
He’s not one of the big players there, according to math. You’re fooled by his big jabber re his relative influence.
Plus the big players (and plenty of smaller ones) know that he’s a conman. Again, you are unable to comprehend any of this. Presumably ignorance is bliss. You seem quite satisfied w/ your wrongness.
Different strokes fer dif folks. IMHO.
"Grammar matters in speech, but "whom" is a special case."
Grammar matters in speech, and "whom" is a special case.
Grammar matters in speech, yet "whom" is a special case.
Grammar matters in speech, so know "whom" is a special case.
Grammar matters in speech, ergo "whom" is a special case to learn.
Grammar matters in speech, "whom" determines who?
Who is whom?
This Guy!
We're well on our well now to dreams.
Whomever said it upthread is right: Standup, Trump should do standup.
I suspect the only TV show Trump will be appearing on is Lockup.
"You're right...all those skyscrapers with his name on them."
Dude couldn't even get a loan from a New York bank.
Sprezzatura said...
“...who called himself some long ID I have forgotten.”
I use my other sock puppet accounts to F w/ you.
Duh.
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Now THERE's another moniker we can safely ignore as a dimwitted adolescent troll.
And...he actually thinks his fuck-wittery is "studied nonchalance"!
heh
Mutaman said...
I suspect the only TV show Trump will be appearing on is Lockup.
**************
If you really, really, really want a Death Wish for this country, just you or anyone else try locking up Donald J. Trump.
I'll settle for exile in the South Atlantic.
All Trump needs to do is hold a series of outdoor rallies with Trump and interesting and articulate guest speakers critiquing Biden's blunders. If he does this over the next two years, the conservatives will take over and dominate the house in the mid-term elections. Then the Biden (or Kamala) administration will be paralyzed for the next two years. And Trump, if he decides to ruin in next presidential election, will win in a landslide.
Althouse said- It's like saying "It's me" — grammatically wrong, but you sound weird saying "It's I."
But when I was a little girl my mother taught me that when a phone caller asks "Is Jean there?", the correct response was "This is she." It may sound weird but it has the magical effect of eliciting a deferential tone from almost any caller! With no-call lists and caller ID, I usually know the caller before I pick up the phone, but at one time Mother's instructions proved quite valuable.
My experience is different. When a phone caller asks, "Is Hercules there?" I respond, "Who wants to know?" Different worlds.
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