April 30, 2017

Samatha Bee, self-consolation, and the smug liberal problem.

CNN's "State of the Union" today began with a clip from Trump's Harrisburg rally (which took place last night, the same night as the White House Correspondents Dinner):
TRUMP: As you may know, there's another big gathering taking place tonight in Washington, D.C. Did you hear about it? A large group of Hollywood actors and Washington media are consoling each other in a hotel ballroom in our nation's capital right now.
Consoling each other. Very funny.

And then the first guest on the show is Samantha Bee, who had an alternative event last night, called "Not the White House Correspondents Association Dinner," which was... what?
JAKE TAPPER: The not -- not the -- not -- your dinner, not the other on... Not the White House Correspondents Dinner. And, more largely, what do you see as the role of comedy in the Trump era?

SAMANTHA BEE: Well, you know, I mean, listen, we -- we mostly do the show for ourselves. We just need catharsis. We need catharsis. We need a place to kind of analyze things in a different way. We need to see -- we see things through a different filter. We just need to break it down for ourselves in a way that we can understand.
Ah! In other words, you were consoling each other. Trump got it right.

Then, Tapper brought up a Ross Douthat column from last September, "Hillary Clinton's Samantha Bee Problem":
TAPPER: But let me read part of it to you: "The Democratic's Party problem in the age of Trump isn't really Jimmy Fallon," who you had criticized and others had criticized for being too soft on Trump. "Its problem is Samantha Bee, not Bee alone, of course, but the entire phenomenon that she embodies, the rapid colonization of new cultural territory by an ascendant social liberalism."... Does he have a point about smug liberals? I'm not talking about you. But... is there a smug liberal problem?...

BEE: I guess I'm -- I guess -- you know, I don't think there is. Like, I do the show for me and for people like me. And I don't really care how the rest of the world sees it, quite frankly. That's great. We make a show for ourselves. We put it out in the world. We birth it, and then the world receives it however they want to receive it.
Meade and I ended up in a long conversation about whether what Bee said amounted to a manifestation of the smug liberal problem.

Here's the Ross Douthat column for reference. His point was hard to pick up from the quote shown today. We paused and got sidetracked by Douthat's writing style — the breathless adjectives (entire... rapid... new... ascendant) and the clunky dead metaphors (one colonizes territory by expanding across a landscape horizontally, not by ascension). I had to look up the column and read it to understand what Douthat was nattering about, but it was easy to understand Tapper's "is there a smug liberal problem?" The answer is so obviously yes that you should just say "yes," and move on from there. To answer "I don't think there is" is — ironically — to talk like Trump.

Anyway, here's a bit more of Douthat's column:
The culture industry has always tilted leftward, but the swing toward social liberalism among younger Americans and the simultaneous surge of activist energy on the left have created a new dynamic, in which areas once considered relatively apolitical now have (or are being pushed to have) an overtly left-wing party line....

Among millennials, especially, there’s a growing constituency for whom right-wing ideas are so alien or triggering, left-wing orthodoxy so pervasive and unquestioned, that supporting a candidate like Hillary Clinton looks like a needless form of compromise....

At the same time, outside the liberal tent, the feeling of being suffocated by the left’s cultural dominance is turning voting Republican into an act of cultural rebellion....

This spirit of political-cultural rebellion is obviously crucial to Trump’s act. As James Parker wrote in The Atlantic, he’s occupying “a space in American politics that is uniquely transgressive, volatile, carnivalesque, and (from a certain angle) punk rock.”... Like the Sex Pistols, Parker suggests, Trump is out to “upend the culture” — but in this case it’s the culture of institutionalized political correctness and John Oliver explaining the news to you, forever.

Trump’s extremism also limits his appeal, of course.
Of course!!
But if liberals are fortunate to be facing a Johnny Rotten figure in this presidential campaign, they are still having real trouble putting him away… and if he were somewhat less volatile and bigoted and gross, liberalism would be poised to close its era of cultural ascendance by watching all three branches of government pass back into conservative hands.
Ha ha ha. That's a very funny sentence now. If Trump if he were somewhat less volatile and bigoted and gross, just think: He might be President now.

144 comments:

Gk1 said...

I for one am delighted they have benighted Samantha Bee as their cultural warrior. She is unfunny and acts like a gallon of ice water on the private parts. What better way to heal the gender gap democrats are suffering trying to attract white males to their party. By all means bring on more humorless, feminist scolds.

mockturtle said...

"we see things through a different filter. "

That's for sure. But the filter should be changed every 3-4K miles or so. Except with synthetic oil, of course.

n said...

There's a heap of neediness in that first Bee quote. Use your big girl verbs, Samantha.

Big Mike said...

As Peggy Noonan wrote last week, Trump is very fortunate in his enemies.

n.n said...

we see things through a different filter

The twilight haze lifts, a little. Baby steps.

Rene' Saunce said...

The left are moving thru the stages of grief.

Tantrum
Tantrum
Self-pity
Rage
Tantrum
Consolation
Whimper
Thumb-sucking

RAH said...

What Bee said was essential smug liberalism A self centered attitude that only her and her like are important. I love the last line that Trump might win if he was toned down. Yet he won anyway.

Rene' Saunce said...

Peggy Noonan today

“When I see tapes of the protests and riots at schools like Berkeley, Middlebury, Claremont McKenna and Yale, it doesn’t have the feel of something that happens in politics. It has the special brew of malice and personal instability seen in the Salem witch trials. . . . The cursing pols, the anathematizing abortion advocates, the screeching students—they are now the face of the progressive left. This is what America sees now as the face of the Democratic Party. It is a party blowing itself up whose only hope is that Donald Trump blows up first.”

exiledonmainstreet said...

Rene'Sauce, Even the brattiest kids wear themselves out screaming and pounding the floor. They have to take a break and whimper for a while before they resume their wailing.

tim in vermont said...

Peggy Noonan is good at putting the obvious into a minimally acceptable prose style. I have to give her that.

Kevin said...

"And then the first guest on the show is Samantha Bee, who had an alternative event last night, called "Not the White House Correspondents Association Dinner,"

More fake news.

Rene' Saunce said...

Ross D - "At the same time, outside the liberal tent, the feeling of being suffocated by the left’s cultural dominance is turning voting Republican into an act of cultural rebellion...."


I think there is truth in that. The left are smug and they over-play it, (see Ann's "boring" post) and continue to do so. Act like a$$holes - get more Trump.


exiled - true. I forgot to add - "hyperventilate, nap, rinse & repeat."

Rae said...

What's so interesting is that leftism *seems* to have taken over the culture just as they lost so much political power. They are truly in a bad position vote wise, which is why they need Antifa, the deep state the 9th circuit to come to their rescue

Truly skilled opposition could put them out of their misery in the next four years, consigned to fortified bastions in deep blue states.

Of course, I don't think Trump and the Republicans are truly skilled opposition.

But then, I thought Hillary was going to win the election, so what I do I know?

Comanche Voter said...

Suck it up buttercup. Life is hard, and then you die.

cubanbob said...

JAKE TAPPER: The not -- not the -- not -- your dinner, not the other on... Not the White House Correspondents Dinner. And, more largely, what do you see as the role of comedy in the Trump era?

SAMANTHA BEE: Well, you know, I mean, listen, we -- we mostly do the show for ourselves. We just need catharsis. We need catharsis. We need a place to kind of analyze things in a different way. We need to see -- we see things through a different filter. We just need to break it down for ourselves in a way that we can understand."

This is commonly known as a circle jerk.

Ms. Bee I get that yours is a niche market comedy routine. Just keep remembering that and you won't be disappointed.

Eric said...

The problem with Bee's argument that she does the show for herself and people like her and "the others" won't see it, so there's no smug leftist (sorry, I won't use "liberal" here) problem is that TBS promotes the show very heavily, highlighting her smug leftist schtick, when "the others" are watching. From those commercials, I think Samantha Bee is tiresome, unfunny, and not very clever without ever having seen her show. Is she even aware of this?

tim in vermont said...

I like TBS, but I change the channel when her commercials come on, usually for. good.

mockturtle said...
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Rusty said...

Isn't comedy supposed to be, you know, funny?

Inga said...

So why didn't conservatives stop wailing and whining for the 8 years Obama was president?

exiledonmainstreet said...

Gee, I'm trying to remember when Tea Partiers rioted, shit in the street and hit people over the head with bike locks while protesting Obama,Inga. I can't.

Opposition is expected from the opposition party. Violence and nonstop screaming fits - that comes from the vicious, unhinged left.

I Callahan said...

So why didn't conservatives stop wailing and whining for the 8 years Obama was president?

They weren't. Not compared to the left, anyway:

1. Antifa violence and Berkeley.
2. Yale teachers getting run off campus for not being politically correct.
3. Ferguson

For just a few examples. Any examples of that type of thing from the right? I'm all ears.

Bill Peschel said...

Samantha Bee is perfectly happy saying anything so long as all eyes are on her -- or at least enough to keep her on the air.

What little she has said that I've read on Althouse says I'm missing nothing worthwhile.

This is what contemporary mainstream journalism has come to. (And so long as Drudge continues to link to silly sites in the British media, it will continue.)

Pillage Idiot said...

Tell you what Inga, you can dress me up in a pink pussy hat with a T-shirt exhibiting a slogan of your choice (short of actual fighting words). You can then drop me off in front of the biggest, right-wingiest Texas mega-church you can find right after the Sunday service.

I get to dress you in a MAGA hat and a T-shirt that says "Build The Wall". I get to drop you off in Berkeley (or Chicago, or Atlanta) on an average Saturday evening. You have to play a right-winger, I have to play a left-winger. $10,000 prize goes to whichever of us gets treated better by the crowd.

P.S. You must indemnify me and agree to hold me harmless for any violence that is perpetrated upon you. Deal?

Jim at said...

There is nothing more humorous than a smug, arrogant leftist denying she is neither smug, nor arrogant.

Come to think of it, it's the only way this snarling, Canadian bint is funny.

Jim at said...

"So why didn't conservatives stop wailing and whining for the 8 years Obama was president?"

Snort.

Loathing and/or despising leftists like you and Obama isn't wailing. And it certainly isn't whining.

It's reality.

3rdGradePB_GoodPerson said...

I don't think libs are going to succumb to cons fussing about how the libs need to be less smug.

Likewise libs succumbing when these assertions are, occasionally, coming from other libs.

How can they see what the Rs in congress and the WH are trying to do re policy and not be animated? IMHO, smugness is a very mild form of animated outrage--not much that is lower on that scale, as I see it.

Anywho, I guess Rs aren't worried about larger fussing because they're are assuming that big tax cuts for rich folks and less benefits/opportunities for poor and normal folks is going to work for normal folks. Or, more likely, they know that this will keep piling up dough for rich folks for a bit longer, and who the F cares about anything beyond that.


I dunno.



Michael K said...

there's no smug leftist (sorry, I won't use "liberal" here) problem is that TBS promotes the show very heavily, highlighting her smug leftist schtick, when "the others" are watching.

There is no leftist currently in evidence who is Liberal.

Trump could not have chosen better enemies.

Michael K said...

"I dunno."

I agree. In spades.

Clueless, I think it's called.

cf said...

who did Smug Samantha vote for?

was it for the worst foreign policy secretary of state in our lifetime? the proven corrupt Pay-for_play candidate? The PoliceStateFriendly power monger who loves to use the law while always skimming right above it? you know: the woman. You voted for Her?!

that one's reasoning could be so dented, and then remain stagnant and stuck -- by so many! it is more and more amazing.

if you can perceive No Good pouring from this momentous election, you are So stuck, so blind and so wrong.

rhhardin said...

Smug as a bug in a rug.

There are no smug bugs in my rugs owing to a sprinkling of borax in the 70s.

It pierces their shells. This same thing might work on liberals.

The Toothless Revolutionary said...

Republicans have a disability that prevents them from appreciating competence and compels them to castigate it as "smugness" instead.

The Toothless Revolutionary said...

There is no leftist currently in evidence who is Liberal.

What are YOU liberal about, Mr. "Don't hurt my feelings or I'm going home and calling my nanny!"

You're a one-weenie walking advertisement against free speech. The amount of speech that offends your snowflake self and that you want to ban would fill a compendia of Shakespeare's works.

You are so full of shit. I fully expect a wounded, squealing tattle-tail response from you that confirms exactly what I just said as soon as you read this.

The Toothless Revolutionary said...

Violence and nonstop screaming fits - that comes from the vicious, unhinged left.

Oh. So Alex Jones and Glenn Beck are leftists now?

Threats of "second amendment remedies" are very peaceful and civil. Same with armies of redneck morons brandishing assault rifles at Denny's. Until the corporations threw the ratty fuckers out and these unwashed cretins complained about how their rights (to force free enterprise to their will) were trampled.

Give me a fucking break. In the Olympics of Partisan Crybaby Antics, you win the Gold Medal.

3rdGradePB_GoodPerson said...

"Oh. So Alex Jones and Glenn Beck are leftists now?"

The cool thing about those two is that they could probably become leftists if/when that's where the money is for media hackery. But, for now, the market is clearly on the other side of the spectrum, not coincidentally, where those two have staked positions, for sale.


The Toothless Revolutionary said...

I don't know what Rush Limballs does to his voice to make it sound the way it does, but if it's not screaming, it sounds like a DHEA-enhanced, steroid riddled unlistenable growling equivalent of constipated larynx syndrome.

Maybe his neck is so fat that it constricts his airway and vocal column.

Either way, it's about as bad as screaming. It's like listening to a screaming rhino.

Gilbert Pinfold said...

cf said:
who did Smug Samantha vote for?

She's a Canadian.

William said...

Samantha is more in need of catheter than catharsis. There's not much fluidity in her ideas or opinions. He smug, swollen liberalism presses like an enlarged prostate against the urethra of social discourse.......This metaphor might need further work.

exiledonmainstreet said...

"Glenn Beck"

Beck? The guy who was so fervently anti-Trump he could have written chuck's comments for him?

Alex Jones? I'll wager that perhaps one Trump voter in 20 could tell you who he is.

As crazy as Jones is, he has not called for violence against the Left:

https://www.infowars.com/alex-jones-we-should-not-call-for-violence-against-the-left/

Even our crazies are superior to the Left's shit throwers, who have not only decided to repeal the Enlightenment, but regressed to toddler poop flinging.




The Toothless Revolutionary said...

Beck? The guy who was so fervently anti-Trump he could have written chuck's comments for him?

Doesn't matter. He's of the right. One of yours. A big-time broadcaster. Huge audience. You don't speak for them. They speak for you, Cuckelita.

Alex Jones? I'll wager that perhaps one Trump voter in 20 could tell you who he is.

Well, let me fill you in the details, Cuckelita. He's the guy that Trump's calling to get, er, "advice" and other tidbits of Trumpiana. "Trump voters" include all Republicucks and other Hillary haters so it's an ineffective way of describing his significant following, who include the die-hard Trump conspiracy theorists. You yourself even admitted you were a reluctant, late groupie to the Trump Train, admitting that he makes you cringe and whatnot, but that your Hillary hatred was strong enough to go with the eventual and inevitable Republican candidate. No surprise there, most (19 in 20?) Republicans did just that. Republicans are sort of running out of options, so don't confuse your cast ballot with King Orange's most die-hard following. The people who will let him "shoot someone in broad daylight in Manhattan" and get away with it.

Even our crazies are superior to the Left's shit throwers, who have not only decided to repeal the Enlightenment, but regressed to toddler poop flinging.

Don't be so shitty.

And don't be so shitty especially if you hope for rose petals to be thrown at you. Or something better than the material you're ruminating on.

I think Pope Francis spoke about this. People engaged in the social equivalent of playing with their own poop shouldn't be surprised when they get others' thrown at them, now should they, Sweet Little Cuckelita?

Clyde said...

SAMANTHA BEE: Well, you know, I mean, listen, we -- we mostly do the show for ourselves. We just need catharsis. We need catharsis. We need a place to kind of analyze things in a different way. We need to see -- we see things through a different filter. We just need to break it down for ourselves in a way that we can understand.

I believe the au courant term for that is "alternative facts."

exiledonmainstreet said...

"I think Pope Francis spoke about this. People engaged in the social equivalent of playing with their own poop shouldn't be surprised when they get others' thrown at them, now should they, Sweet Little Cuckelita?"

It's amusing that you're using the alt right term cuck. I don't believe you know what the word even means. The guy who is the very definition of a spineless, beta cuck gets to feel manly by calling conservatives cucks in the comments section of a blog.

If Beck is ours, Ayres and Dohrn are yours. You have actual wannebe murderers who dreamt of killing 25 million Americans (and I honestly believe you would applaud the mass murder of conservatives, Ritmo)as compared to Glen Beck talking goofy.

And I also find it revealing that you confuse words with actual shit flinging. "Ann Coulter says stuff I hate so it's OK to hit people with bike locks and take a dump on the sidewalk and throw it to stop her!"

That's all you are and all your side is. Just a bunch of pathetic, violent, hatefilled babies having your little pissy fits.

I guess I'm happy that you're venting your hatred on a blog rather than pepper spraying some elderly Trump supporter. Probably wise of you. One cuck got a pretty rough wedgie in Berkeley.

Inga said...

"Doesn't matter. He's of the right. One of yours. A big-time broadcaster. Huge audience. You don't speak for them. They speak for you, "Cuckelitta".

"Alex Jones? I'll wager that perhaps one Trump voter in 20 could tell you who he is."

I have to laugh at how they pretend not to know who Alex Jones or Glenn Beck is.

Inga said...

How did Ted Nugent get out of the draft? By not bathing for weeks and smearing himself with feces, that's how. That's guy is yours, even was a guest at the White House recently.

Michael said...

Inga

Yep, but he didn't drown a girl or get blowjobs from an intern in the White House. Songs are not laden with motherfucker either

Rene' Saunce said...

If Sean Penn smeared himself with feces, he'd be a leftwing hero.

The Cracker Emcee said...

Smug and/or insane is all the Left has...left. Can't think of a single Lefty who isn't one of those. TTR clearly has some profound mental health issues. Likewise PB, though he may just be semi-literate. Sometimes on the Internet it's difficult to distinguish between the two. Chuck is a high-functioning neurotic. The drinking probably doesn't help. AReasonableFascist is smug. Inga, well Inga is just plain dumber than dogshit, disproving my original statement and offering new hope for progressives everywhere. And Cookie, who isn't dumb, smug, or insane, just unfailingly wrong. Except for a couple of times that I vaguely remember. Though there was that time he failed to recognize the link between poverty and Communism in Cuba. Which was pretty fucking stupid. OTOH, his blog is pretty interesting.

Inga said...

Michael,
But did he admit to grabbing women's pussies without their permission? Denny Hastert didn't ask for permission to molest young teen boys, did he?

The Toothless Revolutionary said...

...the very definition of a spineless, beta cuck gets to feel manly by calling conservatives cucks in the comments section of a blog.

You seem to spend a lot of time thinking about and relating to men and maleness, masculinity and the like, Cuckelita. Have you been wishing you were male and identifying with them for a while now? Or just since becoming an accidental granny with a baby-daddy who came from and went to god-knows-where? Because I'm sure that makes you a really high-status female.

If Beck is ours, Ayres and Dohrn are yours.

A major, successful radio and tv broadcaster vs. an obscure weirdo no one knows about and his wife who set off failed pipe bombs. Now THERE'S an equivalence for you. What an addled mind you have.

The rest of what you wrote was just increasingly, psychologically devolved gibberish - and I'm happy to let it stand on its own as such.

One thing, though -

(and I honestly believe you would applaud the mass murder of conservatives, Ritmo)

Your self-victimizing really knows no bounds now, does it? This sort of fantasizing and martyrdom ("shuhadah?") is as telling as it is depressing. I don't care what you do with your lives, or the things you call lives. I'm just sick of your ilk inflicting their mental illness on our politics, and as an excuse to grab power that is outsized and disproportionate to the much smaller number of people in America who actually agree with your warped ideas, or the paranoid fears that shape them.

Not that that explanation will be taken seriously by you, or anything. It's a sensible response, which can in no way compete for the meaninglessness in your own mind that you will now feel compelled to convert it into. Probably by demeaning it with inept attempts at humor or just denying it.

Swede said...

Hilarious.

Baghdad Bee.

"There's no Trump election victory, Hillary is the President!"

"Democrats will win 54 out of 50 governorships and take back the House and Senate!"

"Gorsuch is an imposter! Garland will take his rightful place on the Supreme Court!"

"There's no such thing as smug liberals! That's a capitalist lie!"

Inga said...

Cracker MC,

You're just jealous we liberals weren't dumb enough to vote for Trump. It's Ok, I'd be mad at the world too, had I put that man in Office. One day half of America will find out what possessed you fools to risk the well being of our country in order to elevate a reality show buffoon to a position he is dangerously unsuited for.

Seeing Red said...

That obscure weirdo and his vile wife taught at Northwesten and writes US history books used at the HS level. Guilty as sin, free as a bird right before 9/11. Children to jumpstart the revolution, kill your parents. That shit scarred me for life. What got that attempted mass muderer off was his daddy was head of ComEd.

Roger .L. Simon actually blogged about him and his more vile bitch once. There's a movie out there based on her.

Seeing Red said...

No you won't Inga, you will never understand why.

This is rich coming from the one who believed Hillary when she blamed the video as to why Bengazi was attacked.

Clyde said...

Inga, here's your clue: We were "possessed... to risk the well being of our country in order to elevate a reality show buffoon to a position" that you think that he is "dangerously unsuited for" because the alternative was Hillary Clinton, the most dishonest person to ever run for the presidency, and one who no doubt was bought and paid for by the people who contributed millions of dollars to her family's "charitable" foundation. Nothing made me happier than knowing on Election Night that all of those foreigners who thought they had bought access to the new president of the United States were howling about all of that lost money that they had pissed away. We didn't really know whether Donald Trump would be a good president, but we KNEW that Hillary Clinton would be a BAD ONE! Every day, I wake up and Hillary Clinton is NOT president, and I give Donald Trump an A+ for not being Hillary Clinton.

Is that simple enough for you?

Swede said...

Bee mentions filters that liberals have.

They're different, those liberal filters.

It allows them to see things differently.

Inga has one of those filters on right now.

It allows her to see how jealous people are. Jealous losers that voted for Trump.

Inga knows things.

Not how to win elections, but things.

exiledonmainstreet said...

"Children to jumpstart the revolution, kill your parents. That shit scarred me for life. What got that attempted mass muderer off was his daddy was head of ComEd."

Ayres certainly jumpstarted Obama's political career and probably ghostwrote Obama's books. Bomber Billy and his vile bitch Dohrn visited the WH more than once when Obama was there.

Go put on your twat hat, Inga and shit on the sidewalk. That's how your people express themselves these days. Because they're so intellectual and all.

exiledonmainstreet said...

"Inga has one of those filters on right now."

They used to call them blinders.

Inga said...

Swede, I'm just guessing about what ails Cracker. I was being charitable, I could've said what I really think about his mischaracterizations.

exiledonmainstreet said...

I guess Inga's days of putting words in Francisco D's mouth are over. Ah, well, it was fun for her while it lasted...

The Cracker Emcee said...

"You're just jealous we liberals weren't dumb enough to vote for Trump."

Y'all voted for HRC. An act so amoral and clueless that no further explanation is needed to define your character and your ignorance.

I don't think Inga is OG Inga of a few years back. They're both stupid but this one lacks the drunken-slattern-cackling-behind-the-tumbril quality that defined the old Inga.

exiledonmainstreet said...

"Inga has one of those filters on right now.

It allows her to see how jealous people are"

Yeah, we're so massively jealous of the party that lost over 1000 seats at the national, state and local levels.

Well, today I am jealous of California weather. But when I consider their cost of living, taxes, endlessly stupid regulations and how many liberal dumb asses live there, I lose all desire to live there and feel sorry for the sensible people there who have to endure such things.

exiledonmainstreet said...

They're both stupid but this one lacks the drunken-slattern-cackling-behind-the-tumbril quality that defined the old Inga.

4/30/17, 6:54 PM

No, it's the same one.

Inga said...

"I don't think Inga is OG Inga of a few years back."

Cracker, you're so smart. You're right, I'm not the the original Inga. I stole her identity. How did you know?!

exiledonmainstreet said...

Inga he thinks you're a different person because you're less vile than you used to be. Hey, it's progress!

Inga said...

The original Inga was vile? Tsk, tsk, shame on her, I'm glad she's not here and I am!

The Toothless Revolutionary said...

Whatever debts to society Ayers incurred were either paid with time served or charges dropped. In America we don't have extra-legal expectations of people. He reformed or rehabilitated himself to the point of obviously being able to have a successful conventional career and colleagues and friends that no one suspected him of not deserving and being a responsible enough citizen to cultivate on his own merit. Obama was a talented politician who, as a black man, was not really in a great position to be the Moralizer in Chief that Baby Momma mainstreet thinks his politics should have allowed for in the way of whatever self-righteousness she insists of him. He accepted the friendship/acquaintanceship/patronage of Ayers as he would have from any other Chicago citizen of means not undergoing indictment or whatever other scandal should have caused him to reject it.

No one says G Gordon Liddy doesn't have a right to broadcast or to appear as a tv guest speaker. And THAT crazy motherfucker actually is a convicted felon.

It's just another example of Republican double-standard hypocrisy when it comes to something that no one knows or cares about. I myself might choose to maintain a friendship with someone who even went to jail and I don't need any stupid fucker to lecture me about the morality of that. Freedom of association is still legal in America. Especially in the days of uber-loyalist Trump who thinks that loyalty is so important that he preemptively absolves buddy pervert Bill O'Reilly for the sexual harassment actions that lost him his multi-million dollar career.

Fuck off with your smug self-righteous obscure nonsense. Get some goddamn principles for once in your pathetic, undirected life.

exiledonmainstreet said...

All the Althouse Ingas seem equally stupid, so there's that.

Boring man blathers some more.

I'd have a bit more respect for you guys if you showed any concern whatsoever about the threat to the first Amendment that groups like Antifa pose. Sanders denounced it; Richard Dreyfus also did so on Carlson's show and chalked it up to the fact that civics are no longer taught in hs and so young people think that it's acceptable to shut "hate speech," defined as "speech leftists don't like."

Actually, Robert Cook, who is so far to the left he thinks Obama was on the right, has also denounced it. But other leftists think poop throwing is cute and adorable and violence against "Trumpists" is justifiable. Integrity hasn't completely vanished from the Left; but it's close to dead.

pacwest said...

So I turn on the TV to watch the Sunday morning shows as is my wont. State of the Union is first. I don't like Trapper much since he gained his permanent scowl, but it is the guests in the know I really am interested in. Maybe Gorka. I like Gorka, and he doesn't mince words. Pence? Some higher up that can fill us in on what's happening in the world. Schumer, Pelosi, or Kaine? We do need to know the opposition party's views.

But it is Samantha Bee. Samantha freakin Bee! It truly is the state of the nation. ... Words fail. You can't make this stuff up. It is beyond beyond.

Different things affect different people differently. For me this was a low water mark in American culture. I'm not stupid. I pay attention. I know there are a lot of big things happening out there. Always has been.

Samantha Bee? SAMANTHA BEE??? Argggg!!! How is this even possible? What's next? Peewee Herman on how to handle the NORKS?

Inga said...

Oh Exiled, we all can't be Inga, but keep trying. One day you too will be a star!

3rdGradePB_GoodPerson said...

"Y'all voted for HRC."

Not me.

In fact, I've only checked the box next to a D's name twice anywhere on any ballot, even though I've always voted.

And, it was the same name both times.

exiledonmainstreet said...

I would not want to be famous for being stupid.

I'm glad it doesn't trouble you.

Kirk Parker said...

Inga,

"without their permission" is a despicable lie.

The Toothless Revolutionary said...

Oh for god's sake. If you're worried about fringe groups that hate fascists, here's an idea: Stop being such a fascist. It't inimical to American ideals. Conservatives have been going to war with universities since Nixon. Do we demand you make a "show of force" against all the many Cliven Bundy's that you're so romanticized by? No. We don't care. We figure sooner or later one crazy too many will embarrass even you. And no one "shut down" any conservative fascist's speech. Coulter, Murray, Snuffleupagus - no one's stopping them from cranking out their crank opinions and publishing them with whichever publisher doesn't mind the cash they bring in enough to see past how unsavory and unhelpful their association with them is. Universities are under no obligation to provide venues to intellectually fraudulent, backward cranks. They have a mission to teach, not to promote ignorance and division.

As much as I agree with Dreyfus's push to teach civics, I think he could read the constitution itself. First amendment restrictions have always been broadly defined in three ways: Time, manner and venue. If you want to host angry hateful diatribes you can do it in your own house. I don't need to let you into mine so that you can spew your nonsense from my balcony onto the public at night. Host your own hate speech. Universities, like any enterprise, are under no obligation to host yours, or whoever's. There's a reason these provocateurs' ideas aren't popular on campuses. They're ineffective and they're losing. Left-wing SJW's go too far but to pretend that your litany of right-wing caricatures are providing some type of intellectual integrity to push back on that is absurd. They're not. I can count on one or maybe two hands actual, accomplished professors and speakers whose works and contributions make them valuable spokespeople against PC.

But just like pre-Buckley, you people have trouble separating the cranks and kooks from the valuable contributors. Universities, like all enterprises, have valuable resources to expend and they don't need to use them to protect rhetorical feces-throwers or bomb throwers or whatever else that Coulter and her troupe of Limbaugh-esque ninnies use for shock value alone to cover up their vapidity.

If you yourself had been better educated, then you too might have learned the difference between intellectually honest controversy and provocation for its own sake, and the sake of the provocateur's publicity and fortunes.

Go buy Alex Jones' Brain Force Plus and Survival Shield X-2. They're about as effective as these bomb-throwers' ideas.

exiledonmainstreet said...

Toothless defends the fascism of the left by telling other people not to act that fascists. "Stop making us beat you!"

Thank you for proving my point, although as usual it takes you 70 words to say what a less verbose commenter could say in 20.

The Toothless Revolutionary said...

Thank you for proving my point, although as usual it takes you 70 words to say what a less verbose commenter could say in 20.

Because you're lying. And because you find reading to be a difficult thing. And because your own thoughts are never longer than anything that can fit on a bumper sticker.

And because you must also have lacked an education yourself. You're bitter about that, and unlike getting knocked up, you can't use it as a point of pride.

You're calling others fascists? That's funny. I call you a fascist. I also know about the first amendment and other relevant details at play in this pseudo-controversy, and that makes you feel impotent. Which you are, but that's a different story. Go get the Vagasil and let Alex Jones know that his phytopharmaceutical armamentarium is incomplete.

I even think these cranks could go onto campus. I just make the argument to not let it happen to piss you off and because I bothered to inform myself enough about constitutional law to be able to do so. It further exposes how little you know about what you say, Ms. "Host Mah Speech, You Fascist!" I force you to host mah speech!"

No one who cares about their future wants to hear what you have to say. That must suck. But I guess they could always improve their status with unwed motherhood instead, if they wanted.

exiledonmainstreet said...

" I just make the argument to not let it happen to piss you off"

So you take stances you don't really believe just to piss people off? Just like you told Hypenated American it was too bad his relatives were too stupid to get out of the way of the Nazis? Oh, you really didn't believe that either, but you wanted to take him down a peg. Any weapon will do.

That's your MO here,and so I don't see why I should spend any time taking anything you write seriously. And in fact, I don't. I skim them, roll my eyes at the predictable, juvenile insults and comment or don't comment but I realize all you do here is try to pull chains and it's become boring.

bagoh20 said...

The left is naturally smug. Who wouldn't be once you have have decided your choices are superior, your preferences enlightened? Self-righteousness and self satisfaction naturally follow, and the sureness of this is best ensured by insulation and control of speech and opinions allowed in your circle. You need that mindset if you are going to believe that you should control other peoples choices about everything even down to the most intimate and personal options in their lives, as well as deciding how much success is enough and what you can do with it. Expecting humility from such a set of ideas and standards is just unrealistic. It's a political pole that has always been with humans and it ebbs and flows under different names like royalty, intelligentsia, patrician, etc. It's never associated with humility or respect for everyone else. It's kind of a basic trait of the "right-thinking" or "well-bred", now self-separated as "educated", "fact-based", or "open-minded". These terms were never really very accurate, old or new.

The Toothless Revolutionary said...

Yep. The "poorly educated" Trump voter above can't understand that two different things might also be true. There might be more than one argument worth defending.

But she's the one who thinks she knows who should be coming on campuses to educate your kids.

Bumper sticker thinker advocates for bumper sticker college education.

exiledonmainstreet said...

Many of the Trump voters here are more highly educated than you are, Ritmo.

exiledonmainstreet said...

Trump won a majority of college-educated white men.

The cucks voted for Hillary.

3rdGradePB_GoodPerson said...

"Who wouldn't be once you have have decided your choices are superior, your preferences enlightened? Self-righteousness and self satisfaction naturally follow, and the sureness of this is best ensured by insulation and control of speech and opinions allowed in your circle. You need that mindset if you are going to believe that you should control other peoples choices about everything even down to the most intimate and personal options in their lives, as well as deciding how much success is enough and what you can do with it."

Dude, take your anti-Christianity diatribe somewhere else.

We're God fearin' folks 'round these parts.

The Toothless Revolutionary said...

Many of the Trump voters here are more highly educated than you are, Ritmo.

I'm glad you need to cling to them to feel better about yourself as a poorly educated cuck.

But then, you like being able to cling to the men into whom you project your dreams. Too bad they weren't available when you wanted.

The Toothless Revolutionary said...

I'm educated through the post-graduate level, and beyond. So if you weren't the type of person who just makes things up, I'd find your charge of others being "more highly educated than me" to be curious.

But you are. So I don't.

Anything else you wanted to just make up today?

Rusty said...


"SAMANTHA BEE: Well, you know, I mean, listen, we -- we mostly do the show for ourselves. We just need catharsis. We need catharsis."

No,sweetheart, you need to be funny or else you're not a comedian. You need to work on your delivery.

What is balls whining about now? Are we not aryan enough for him?

The Toothless Revolutionary said...

And I also didn't vote for Hillary. This really is a sore subject for you, isn't it.

What exactly is it about her that incites so much rage and hatred in you? Is there something in her that you see in yourself, and can't stand.

You noted an interest in psychology recently. (At least when it served your "greater purpose" of going after me through a proxy commenter when your own efforts to attack me failed). Let's get to the bottom of what's at the root of all these tenacious, anti-social behaviors and attitudes of yours.

bagoh20 said...

I think Ritmo's basic argument in this thread can be distilled down, after a great volume of off-gassing, to simply stating: "of course we are smug, and we deserve to be." Unless he wants to now explain why that's not exactly what he thinks?

3rdGradePB_GoodPerson said...

TTR,

Not to mention that you tricked her into playing exactly what she says is supposed to be terrible*, i.e. elitism re higher ed.

You got her to double-cuck herself.




*FTR, I know that snobs w/ multiple fancy degrees are total assholes who should be ignored. But, I'm throwing stones from inside the so-called glass house.

3rdGradePB_GoodPerson said...

BTW, TTR and myself are not the only anti-DJT folks in these threads who didn't go w/ HRC.

exiledonmainstreet said...

bagoh20 said

"I think Ritmo's basic argument in this thread can be distilled down, after a great volume of off-gassing, to simply stating: "of course we are smug, and we deserve to be."

Great summary.

"Unless he wants to now explain why that's not exactly what he thinks?"

Oh, Lord. Don't encourage him. He'll write 10 more long-winded comments in response and they will simply amount to "of course we are smug, and we deserve to be."

3rdGradePB_GoodPerson said...

BTW,

Bee has pretty good thigh gap for an golden years gal.

Sure, she spreads feet wide, and wears tight pants, and has bright lights as a background (at that elevation) to emphasize gappage.

OTH, she doesn't flare her heals out. So, points for authenticity.

exiledonmainstreet said...

Didn't 3rd grader say once that he was Christian?

Shame about the ones you know. Maybe you should find yourself a better bunch.

3rdGradePB_GoodPerson said...

exile,

Still 100%, to the core believe, though I don't know why because intellectually it doesn't make sense.

And, still a member, but only attend when in one particular house, the one near the church.

And, went to almost entirely Christian schools until college, which may explain the completely inculcated belief.

CWJ said...

Ritmo wrote -

"I'm educated through the post-graduate level, and beyond."

...and beyond. The Buzz Lightyear of credentials.

What was it this time in Althouse presenting the obvious in the principals' own words that so quickly brought out Ritmo, Inga, and PB to snidely deny the left's smug. What's so threatening about the word Smug?

3rdGradePB_GoodPerson said...

BTW,

exile,

why not let that BHO talking to House Rs (that I linked to just a little up-thread) play?

Presumably, you'd like to see BHO questioned by the House Rs. So, it'd be a pleasure for you to hear that.

3rdGradePB_GoodPerson said...

CWJ,

FTR, I said that smugness is weak tea re an opposition party. So why get all fussy, buttercups?

I.e., no denial, no denial, not a denial, you're a denial, not a denial.



Carry on.

The Toothless Revolutionary said...

I think Ritmo's basic argument in this thread can be distilled down, after a great volume of off-gassing, to simply stating: "of course we are smug, and we deserve to be." Unless he wants to now explain why that's not exactly what he thinks?

I don't really like to think about myself all that much. I think about what I like, experiences, what other people making decisions affecting us are up to. And I think that when arrogance and stupidity combine to inform policy it should be called out, just like how people watch Jackass videos, etc. But as for promoting oneself, I leave that to the captains of industry or celebutards who think their riches or fame make them important.

I never understood why so many of you think that intelligent, informed conversation is an act of arrogance. Is it in your culture? Were you born into families that told you not suffering foolish stupidity was mean, anti-social? That your first priority should be to figure out how little people around you know, and to show humility by pretending you also are just as incurious? That the simpleton is the hero?

So many assumptions you make about me, and never a word as to how you came to order your own strange priorities to begin with.

Inga said...

The government will be funded through September. A deal has just been reached. No money for the Wall, lol.

Jay Elink said...

I'm thinking TR sounds a lot like an unacknowledged bastard son of Noam Chomsky.

It's the paranoid bitterness, and the pretense of hyper-intellectual knowingness.

Inga said...

Planned Parenthood will continue to be funded, ha.

The Toothless Revolutionary said...

What's so threatening about the word Smug?

Nothing. Other than it's a stupid criticism. What's so threatening to you about knowledge and information? Do you trust people so little that you assume those more knowledgeable/smarter than you are focused on using what they know against you?

After graduating formal programs there are additional forms of credentialing and training. It's part and parcel of a professional career. I understand that pertains to a whole, ever-present part of society that goes beyond your limited perspective, but I don't have to explain further. I guess I don't have anything to confess or "pour my heart out" to you on, really. But I generally don't do that for shameless, amoral bitches anyway. ;-)

I made my life's decisions in a way that benefited me and there's nothing for me to confess or apologize or unburden myself about it. But if there is more to know about how hard-working professionals function that eludes you or that you resent or feel frustrated by, just ask. We'll be happy to explain. Your concealed access to that stratum seems to have created a very destructive tendency in you that it would benefit everyone here to help do something about.

The Toothless Revolutionary said...

Jay Elink zealously defends his honor as a proud, low-info voter. His ignorance is as good as anyone's knowledge!

The Toothless Revolutionary said...

"I think Ritmo's basic argument in this thread can be distilled down, after a great volume of off-gassing, to simply stating: "of course we are smug, and we deserve to be."

Great summary.


I'm so sorry I didn't waste my education or life opportunities to become someone's baby-daddy. Oh, I'm such a bad person!

3rdGradePB_GoodPerson said...

Those mean libs were smug to me. Hence, I'm a DJT supporter.


Ha ha ha ha ha ha.

Y'all are hilarious.

exiledonmainstreet said...

Ritmo said:

"I don't really like to think about myself all that much"

Your lack of self-awareness is apparent.

"I never understood why so many of you think that intelligent, informed conversation is an act of arrogance."

What intelligent informed conversation are we getting from the left? It's all insults and snide preaching. That's your idea of an intelligent conversation?

Jay Elink said...

The Toothless Revolutionary said...
Jay Elink zealously defends his honor as a proud, low-info voter. His ignorance is as good as anyone's knowledge!

**************

There you go again, Noam Jr.:

* claiming I am defending my honor. When did I ever say it was impugned, especially by Noam Jr.?

* claiming I'm a proud, low info voter, when he knows nothing about me.

* claiming I think my "ignorance" is as good as...etc.

You really ought to step away, STEP AWAY!!! from the Alcohol Dispenser!!

The Toothless Revolutionary said...

What intelligent informed conversation are we getting from the left? It's all insults and snide preaching. That's your idea of an intelligent conversation?

Try reading more.

Try taking a college-level course and learning how to critically reason through what you read.

Learn how to ask and answer questions accurately and objectively.

Learn how to discover abstract findings and theories about the world without feeling a need to claim a personal stake in them.

Jay Elink said...

"Learn how to discover abstract findings and theories about the world without feeling a need to claim a personal stake in them."

**************

There's evidence of yer Chomsky genes, right there!

And if you claim not to have a need to claim a personal stake, etc: why is there so much BITTERNESS, BILE AND SNOT in everything you write?

Gahrie said...

But did he admit to grabbing women's pussies without their permission?

No. What he did was brag that he could grab their pussies if he wanted to.

The Toothless Revolutionary said...

Jay Elink illustrates his anti-thought credentials by claiming that anyone who doesn't make a conscious effort to avoid sounding like Chomsky, is to be dismissed!

Sorry, stud. Some of us don't read enough Chomsky to know what we're supposed to avoid or supposedly not avoid sounding like.

Are you done being stupid? If not, please kindly fuck off!

Thank you, Sweetheart.

Jon Ericson said...

Another night of japery.
Bring back Amanda!

exiledonmainstreet said...

"Learn how to discover abstract findings and theories about the world without feeling a need to claim a personal stake in them."

Yeah, leftists love abstract theories. When human beings don't fit neatly into those abstractions, the bodies pile up - and plenty of intellectuals rationalized or ignored those murders. Fuck abstractions. Take a look at how the world actually works.

"And if you claim not to have a need to claim a personal stake, etc: why is there so much BITTERNESS, BILE AND SNOT in everything you write?"

Yeah, the whole self-image Ritmo has of himself as some disinterested Lover of Truth and Justice is obviously horseshit.

The Toothless Revolutionary said...

Yeah, the whole self-image Ritmo has of himself as some disinterested Lover of Truth and Justice is obviously horseshit.

I know. If I had a greater love of truth then I would obviously increase my tolerance for your incoherent ignorance and lies.

The Toothless Revolutionary said...

Yeah, leftists love abstract theories. When human beings don't fit neatly into those abstractions, the bodies pile up - and plenty of intellectuals rationalized or ignored those murders. Fuck abstractions. Take a look at how the world actually works.

So clearly you need to kill off or outlaw anyone to the left you, then. I mean, I'm not sure there is such a party in America known as "leftist", let alone that conducted widespread massacres of people, but you wanna-be martyrs sure can dream, can't you! And I do notice that Steve Bannon's quite the Stalin admirer, so go figure.

This is not China, this is not Russia (even though your president wishes it were). You've never been to those countries, you've never probably been outside of America. You know nothing of what you speak but you do know that you'll be damned if educated Americans who never placed greater priority on making people come out of their vaginas as you did will get away with looking at a world more complex than the bumper sticker that your hero fat Rush Limbaugh has distilled it down into.

Seriously, you are an abomination. Are you as fat as Limbaugh, too? What other attributes do you share with your intellectual hero?

bagoh20 said...

I would be embarrassed if I needed to go back to my accomplishments of conformity in my twenties to prove my value today.

Jon Ericson said...

I feel the peace, brother or sister or whichever you are.
Kamakazi right on in.
Annoyance is a mighty sword.
God Bless.

exiledonmainstreet said...

LOL, the disinterested Lover of Truth and Abstract Theory has now resorted to "You're FAT!" (Actually, nope, I'm not.)

Ah yes, that's those Leftist Intellectuals for you and their "intelligent, informed conversation": you're old! you're fat! Hell, if FDR was a Republican, you would be calling him old jellylegs and making fun of Eleanor's buck teeth. Such is the highmindness of your discourse.

exiledonmainstreet said...

As I was saying earlier:

"What intelligent informed conversation are we getting from the left? It's all insults and snide preaching. That's your idea of an intelligent conversation?"

Ritmo responds with more insults and snide preaching. Boy, that's the way to prove me wrong!

The Toothless Revolutionary said...

When it comes to inferiority, nothing trumps Rush Limbaugh and the worldview you plagiarize verbatim from him.

Go on. I know you can come up with a way of being and thinking that's even lower than that.

You can do it, accidental granny! Believe in yourself!

After all, you made people come out of your vagina. And that makes you one of the most important people in the world!

The Toothless Revolutionary said...

I would be embarrassed if I needed to go back..

Who's needing? She asked, I answered, dumbshit. Stop proving how overpaid you are.

The Toothless Revolutionary said...

"What intelligent informed conversation are we getting from the left? It's all insults and snide preaching. That's your idea of an intelligent conversation?"

Ritmo responds with more insults and snide preaching. Boy, that's the way to prove me wrong!


I am not "the left" (apparently you think Stalin and Mao are) and you are incapable of following rational discourse.

60 years old and you still can't resist making a caricature and stereotype out of people any more than you can resist being one. Doesn't anything get you to change? Not the saggy tits, not the wrinkles? You know, acting like an adolescent doesn't keep you from aging, Baby-Momma mainstreet.

Go back to the store and tell them you want your sense of humor refunded. Yours is defective.

exiledonmainstreet said...

"You've never been to those countries, you've never probably been outside of America."

No, I haven't been to China or Russia. I've been to Europe quite a bit. I fail to understand what that has to do with anything. I am permitted to have an opinion about the French election because I've been there 3 times and seen the Louvre and sat around at cafes and had a French boyfriend once but I can't have an opinion about Russia because I've never been there?

That's what books are for, skippy. You read them to learn about places and cultures you have not experienced personally. They are also handy for learning about history and current events because simply visiting London and gawking at the Tower of London doesn't make you an expert on the UK by osmosis.

I take it you went to China and Russia and had in depth conversations with movers and shakers there and that informs your opinion.

Jay Elink said...

"This is not China, this is not Russia (even though your president wishes it were). You've never been to those countries, you've never probably been outside of America."

*********************

Ladies and gentleman: the "man", whether cis or trans, claims to KNOW which countries we've never been to, which by implication, dwarf those that he/she/it/xir has been in!

HE's Cosmopolitan. WE are rubes who sunburn our tonsils staring in astonishment at the tops of Chicago skyscapers!!!

And THAT difference is supposed to be DISPOSITIVE, proving the correctness of his arguments!!!

THAT from a person who brags, "I'm educated through the post-graduate level, and beyond."

Funny how he thinks "credentialism" trumps reasoned argument....

LOLZ

Then there's the fat-shaming....in addition to being an utterly fatuous and non-PC ad hominem .... but I need not go on.

Face it, TR/Ritmo...you've soiled yourself badly tonight.

Best you strap on an adult diaper and go to sleep.

I suspect you'll feel worse, a lot worse, in the morning.



exiledonmainstreet said...

Sorry, my sterile, hysterical Internet lunatic, I have to retire for the evening.

I'll leave to you to conduct your high-toned discussions with someone else. Carry on, Voltaire! :)

exiledonmainstreet said...

"I'm educated through the post-graduate level, and beyond."

AND BEYOND! Verily, we must all bow!

Martin said...

Normal people get together with a few friends, have some beer or wine, and commiserate. Smug liberals produce a television show and get network distribution.

exiledonmainstreet said...

What's this obsession with Rush Limbaugh, who I've listened to maybe 3 times in my life, since I don't listen to the radio at work?

Oh, yeah, he's a conservative! And fat! Ritmo wants you to know he's fat!

Because there's your high level intellectual argument!

This is too much fun, but really, time for bed.

The Toothless Revolutionary said...

AND BEYOND! Verily, we must all bow!

I know! For someone who never even got through college without having to drop out so that the little people could be passed through your vagina, that must seem like a very faraway destination.

But it's ok, accidental granny. You know, old geezers like you can still take college courses. They don't discriminate.

But that's not your problem. Nurturing that resentment of yours is.

What a waste of a person you are. No wonder you worried about being killed off. You basically acknowledge that your only contribution to society is as a conveyor belt.

The Toothless Revolutionary said...

What's this obsession with Rush Limbaugh, who I've listened to maybe 3 times in my life, since I don't listen to the radio at work?

That's funny. You sound just like him.

But nice try trying to convince anyone here that your worldview is somehow more sophisticated than his. I can basically predict your position on anything.

Actually, that's not precise. You don't properly have convictions. You just have designated enemies lists submitted to you by fat talk show hosts.

The Toothless Revolutionary said...

This is too much fun, but really, time for bed.

Geez. Is your vagina getting tired?

Or are there other other systems in your body that require nightly maintenance and repair over thirty years after their only use in life had ended?

Jay Elink said...

I withdraw my surmise that Ritmo is an unacknowledged son of Noam Chomsky.

After his feces-hurling snot-fest tonight I'm going with..... Nim Chimpsky.

Mrdoug1 said...

TTR I've read many commenters on many blogs, but I don't think I've ever come across one who brags as much as you do. It's quite impressive. You should take a breath & take it in. You might be surprised. Or not.

The Toothless Revolutionary said...

I apologize, Mrdoug1. I didn't realize how mediocre a set of expectations there were of everyone here and what level I was supposed to humble myself to. I'll make sure to portray myself as more mediocre next time. I heard you conservatives are very egalitarian and easily envious, so of course it will be important to remember to act as unknowledgeable and unaccomplished as you apparently think I'm supposed to be.

Michael K said...

Nice to see I didn't miss anything by going out to dinner.

Lame thread. Good grief !

Michael K said...

"what level I was supposed to humble myself to"

There is no level low enough. Good night.

The Toothless Revolutionary said...

Oh, little Michael, you were soooo missed!

Do remind us what it is, exactly, that you bring to these threads. I forgot.

exiledonmainstreet said...


Ha, ha! As predicted, the sane went to bed and the Angry Internet Commenter continued to spit and howl and rage, thus giving us even more examples of his intellectual seriousness.

Humble? Why should he be humble? Nobody can fill a thread with invective like the Ruthless Umlaut can! That's a big accomplishment! You need grad school AND BEYOND to manage that!

exiledonmainstreet said...

And thanks for that great display of misogyny! It's pretty clear Ritmo knows about as much about vaginas as he does about civil discourse - which probably accounts for much of his spiteful rage.

Thank you, Lord, that that DNA was not passed on to a son or daughter and his line will die with him.

Now, come on back, poop flinging howler monkey and throw some more shit. We all know how low you can go. It takes a graduate school education AND BEYOND to insult Polish Jews for being too stupid to get out of Hitler's way in 1939. But hey, you had to slap down a Russia-born engineer who was getting the best of you in that argument - so hey, smear the memory of his relatives.

A man who was really accomplished wouldn't feel the need to do such things. An angry, insecure little snot with no real accomplishments to his name would.

Laslo's got your number.

Rusty said...


"I'm educated through the post-graduate level, and beyond."

Ah. A certified Proust scholar.

exiledonmainstreet said...

BTW, it looks like smug NYC liberals want diversity for the rest of us, but not for them:

http://www.chalkbeat.org/posts/ny/2016/06/16/latest-upper-west-side-rezoning-battle-renews-debate-over-how-best-to-integrate-schools/?comments=true#disqus_thread

"This week marked the second time in less than a year that parents on the sharply segregated Upper West Side gathered in droves to protest a rezoning plan with the potential to make their schools more diverse.

This round, it was parents from P.S. 452 opposing a plan to move their school into a building 16 blocks south, where it would have more space and a new zone that could potentially include more low-income families."

chickelit said...

CWJ asked: "What's so threatening about the word Smug?"

'Oh, excuse me!' Ritmo gasped, and blushed, and fled. But ah, the Smug hung heavy in the
humid air, long past the lady's flight. It hung, it lolled, it wisped; it miscegenated with the smoke
of my cigar, caressed the beading oil on the skin of my nose, lay obscenely on the flat of my
desk, among my briefs and papers. It was everywhere, but I had learned, even then, to live with
nature and my fellow animals. I didn't flinch; I didn't move. Through its dense invisible presence
I regarded my oracular wall, and this time fruitfully.


With apologies to John Barth

furious_a said...

"It is a party blowing itself up whose only hope is that Donald Trump blows up first.”

"Hope" is not a strategy.

damikesc said...

Sad thing is, my utter disdain for Bee hurts my enjoyment for the show she and her, I think, husband created on TBS "The Detour", which is one of the most sublimely fucked up comedies out there.

But politics ruins all entertainment. Designated Survivor is downright cringe-worthy half of the time now.

T. A. Hansen said...

Samantha "Two Chins" Bee has two chins.

The Exile said...

The most clueless, lacking-in-common-sense people that I meet invariably have college degrees. Invariably.

I have 6-1/2 + years of post-secondary education, in addition to constantly educating myself in my spare time, so the smug, sneering Leftists here can spare me the "uneducated simpleton" routine. I can build a house, fix a car, build a computer and program it and discuss string theory with them. My bet is that, beyond Poly Sci or Gender Studies, they really don't know much of anything.