Althouse: Fake news: fake boos.

December 9, 2016

Fake news: fake boos.

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Nonapod said...: Assuming I'm interpreting correctly what's going on here, that's pretty goddamn insidious.; 12/9/16, 10:02 AM
rhhardin said...: I'd be more of a Glenn fan if they'd taught economics in flight school.; 12/9/16, 10:03 AM
alan markus said...: Hmm, pretty interesting dynamic here. Perhaps the Democrats will conclude that this "fake news" thing should not be looked at too closely - as is in no need to look for voter fraud because there is no such thing.; 12/9/16, 10:06 AM
Fen said...: I can hear Blumenthal screaming from Maryland: "You idiots! Stop running fake news while our narrative is spotlighting fake news! You're killing us!"

"Sorry boss, will delete"; 12/9/16, 10:08 AM
Fen said...: And be wary, Sidney has an app that directs his attention whenever his name is spoken.

Kind of like Voldemo - er He Who Can't Be Named.; 12/9/16, 10:10 AM
Fabi said...: That's how far inside the bubble the lefties truly are. They actually believed that they could project and control the fake news meme to the right. That ship has already sailed -- the left invented fake news and they're being called out in spades.; 12/9/16, 10:11 AM
Curious George said...: "rhhardin said...
I'd be more of a Glenn fan if they'd taught economics in flight school."

Top Ten All-Time rhhardin. Gold.; 12/9/16, 10:11 AM
Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves said...: LOL

KOS - leftwing lies for the leftwing cause. Fighting the good fight.; 12/9/16, 10:14 AM
walter said...: But..Brian Williams witnessed it..; 12/9/16, 10:15 AM
BarrySanders20 said...: "Unpublished" is now a verb.; 12/9/16, 10:19 AM
cornroaster said...: Reminds me of the AP news story during the 2004 campaign reporting that the crowd at the George Bush rally at State Fair Park in Milwaukee booed when an announcement was made that Bill Clinton had entered the hospital with heart trouble. There was an "OOhhh..." from the crowd, but neither my wife or I heard any boos. AP reported it as the crowd booing. Fake news from the left is not new at all.; 12/9/16, 10:20 AM
Eric the Fruit Bat said...: I vaguely recall some fairy tale from my childhood where a cloak over a shrub was the bad guy's way of winning but he was defeated when the good guys put cloaks on all the shrubs.

Some things never change.; 12/9/16, 10:25 AM
cornroaster said...: Here us a link to some commentary on the AP "fake news" story at that time.

http://wizbangblog.com/content/2004/09/03/bush-crowd-boos.php; 12/9/16, 10:26 AM
traditionalguy said...: My guess is that a Presbyterian Leatherneck now guarding the streets of Heaven got a Friend to delete these untruths.; 12/9/16, 10:28 AM
Ann Althouse said...: The word should be "depublished."

It wasn't "unpublished." It was published. It was later taken down. "Un-" doesn't work like that. It you open a box and then close it again, it is not unopened. If you sell an item in your store and the customer brings it back for a refund, you'd say it was "returned," not "unsold." The customer wouldn't say "I want to unbuy this." You could say, "You already bought it," and then he'd say, "But I want to return it."; 12/9/16, 10:36 AM
Ann Althouse said...: I'll bet there were a lot of people who laughed when the first plane hit the World Trade Center.

Because they were not watching the event, but doing something else, perhaps playing with a child, and something made them laugh.; 12/9/16, 10:38 AM
Ignorance is Bliss said...: Ann Althouse said...

I'll bet there were a lot of people who laughed when the first plane hit the World Trade Center.

I hear there were also people dancing on rooftops in New Jersey when the towers fell. But the topic is fake news, and I digress...; 12/9/16, 10:46 AM
David Begley said...: I was in Des Moines. Protestors disrupted Trump while he was speaking of Glenn. See, Power Line blog.; 12/9/16, 10:48 AM
Matt Sablan said...: Posting corrections is so passe.; 12/9/16, 10:48 AM
Fernandinande said...: Cover, uncover. Discover.; 12/9/16, 10:52 AM
Unknown said...: hasn't there always been 'fake news,' though? i mean wasn't our current drug policy shaped by tons and tons of it?; 12/9/16, 10:59 AM
BarrySanders20 said...: "The word should be 'depublished.'"

Or Kos could use the active "We removed the article."

But the passive voice and the newspeak together suits them. The haughtiness that shifts the blame to me if try to find the story is a bonus.

Tort law may have room for a new affirmative defense to a defamation action: "the story has been unpublished" defense. It was so fake it happened all by itself, as if it never was.; 12/9/16, 11:01 AM
Fred Drinkwater said...: Rhhardin:
But, these days they do teach economics in flight school. It's called "energy management".; 12/9/16, 11:02 AM
Ignorance is Bliss said...: vicari valdez said...

i mean wasn't our current drug policy shaped by tons and tons of it?

Not true. I saw Reefer Madness*. That is some scary shit.

*It might have been Up in Smoke that I saw. But either way...; 12/9/16, 11:05 AM
Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves said...: "This story has been unpublished and you do not have permission to view it."

**You do not have permission to use our lies against us. Back to work, peasant.; 12/9/16, 11:06 AM
Fernandinande said...: Dailykos currently mentions John Glenn in only one place, and the article, which is about the wonderfulness of black women, has a headline with a fake quote.; 12/9/16, 11:09 AM
Darrell said...: Down the memory hole.; 12/9/16, 11:11 AM
Rocketeer said...: But, these days they do teach economics in flight school. It's called "energy management".

Proving, I think, that Bob Hoover > John Glenn.; 12/9/16, 11:11 AM
Anonymous said...: The grocer's apostrophe on the first link was a nice touch.; 12/9/16, 11:12 AM
viator said...: Fake news for people who live in fake reality in a fake universe where cold is hot, color has virtue, and 2 + 2 = 5.; 12/9/16, 11:14 AM
FullMoon said...: Fake news from 60's, 70', 80's,90's 00's and today.
#WhyTrumpWon
Schumer: 'Republicans Are Plotting a War on Seniors Next Year'; 12/9/16, 11:21 AM
Matt Sablan said...: Schumer: 'Republicans Are Plotting a War on Seniors Next Year'

I thought Republicans were the party of old people?; 12/9/16, 11:28 AM
walter said...: "That's how stupid they are!!!"; 12/9/16, 11:30 AM
Scott M said...: Schumer: 'Republicans Are Plotting a War on Seniors Next Year'

I've already seen one article about homelessness. Hopefully, the GOP will meet this head-on and remind everyone 1) how this tactic was used last time and 2) where were these articles over the past eight years?; 12/9/16, 11:39 AM
Karen of Texas said...: Did I run across this link somewhere in the Althouse comments? I can't remember.

Could this "journalistic" activity be equated to inciting to riot or yelling 'fire', falsely, in a crowded theater?; 12/9/16, 11:40 AM
George Grady said...: If you're desperate to read them, Google still has them cached:

Daily Kos

Kurt Eichenwald's twitter

Democratic Underground; 12/9/16, 11:46 AM
Matt Sablan said...: "If you're desperate to read them, Google still has them cached:"

-- Hah. The Internet Never Forgets.; 12/9/16, 11:48 AM
Anonymous said...: Most topical line from Karen's NPR link: "Coler says his writers have tried to write fake news for liberals — but they just never take the bait."; 12/9/16, 12:07 PM
Paddy O said...: Remember the Maine!; 12/9/16, 12:25 PM
Karen of Texas said...: @PaulZ - I know. His whole take on liberals and how they just couldn't be "faked" made me want reach through my screen and bitch slap him into next year. Idiot.; 12/9/16, 12:26 PM
Danno said...: The Greatest Generation via Kennedy, Johnson and Nixon put a man into orbit (i.e. John Glenn) and later on the moon. President Obama put a man in the women's restroom!; 12/9/16, 12:39 PM
Static Ping said...: Ignorance is Bliss said...
I hear there were also people dancing on rooftops in New Jersey when the towers fell. But the topic is fake news, and I digress...

The thing is this has been declared "fake news" but it is still not clear if it is fake or not. I'm 100% certain that someone, somewhere in New Jersey somewhere was celebrating the towers falling. Last I knew there were still people who swear that something at least similar to the "dancing on rooftops" actually happened in some form, if not as popularly described, and as Ann says it may have been a misunderstanding. The problem is when you believe the media would spike the story even if it is true then it becomes very difficult to know what to believe.; 12/9/16, 12:41 PM
Static Ping said...: For the record, this sort of thing you normally get from a muckraker trying to start a war.; 12/9/16, 12:48 PM
rehajm said...: If you're desperate to read them, Google still has them cached

Democratic Underground's piece is only referencing Eichenwald's tweet.

If Eichenwald wasn't there dimes to donuts he was only referencing the Daily Kos headline.

Horrific.; 12/9/16, 12:51 PM
Fernandinande said...: Paul Zrimsek said...
Most topical line from Karen's NPR link: "Coler says his writers have tried to write fake news for liberals — but they just never take the bait."

More fake news from the fake news guy. FWIW, the "Study Finds Students Have 'Dismaying' Inability To Tell Fake News From Real" link on that page says otherwise.; 12/9/16, 1:07 PM
JAORE said...: I really don't think the left knows how slanted, selective, coordinated.... fake.... the coverage of news by main stream media has become.

I am absolutely convinced they don't know that everyone else does know.; 12/9/16, 1:09 PM
Mike (MJB Wolf) said...: Nice catch Nigel @ 10:19 AM; 12/9/16, 1:23 PM
zipity said...: A war against fake news?

What are all those soon to be unemployed people at the NY Times, Washington Post, NBC, ABC, CBS, MSNBC, PBS, NPR, CNN, Univision, BBC, CBC, etc. going to do after their companies go out of business...?; 12/9/16, 1:48 PM
I Have Misplaced My Pants said...: The word should be "depublished."

Agree with your point re un/de, but the actual honest word would be 'withdrawn.'; 12/9/16, 1:59 PM
YoungHegelian said...: Was I the only person who, in glancing over the page, first misread the Prof's headline as Fake News: fake boobs?

I know, mind out of the gutter, YH. Mind out of the gutter...; 12/9/16, 2:34 PM
walter said...: More like fake news, natural boobs.; 12/9/16, 2:37 PM
John henry said...: Duffleblog, a military version of the onion, had a nice satirical piece about Glenn going to Olympus

John Henry; 12/9/16, 2:56 PM
Ignorance is Bliss said...: YoungHegelian said...

Was I the only person...

No, you were not...; 12/9/16, 3:04 PM
Anonymous said...: Fox News is replacing "Fair and balanced" with "It's real, and it's spectacular".; 12/9/16, 3:19 PM
tcrosse said...: I really don't think the left knows how slanted, selective, coordinated.... fake.... the coverage of news by main stream media has become.

Fish don't know they're wet.; 12/9/16, 3:36 PM
cornroaster said...: The word should be "depublished."

Agree with your point re un/de, but the actual honest word would be 'withdrawn.'

Don't get your un/de's all twisted up over this.; 12/9/16, 3:57 PM
David said...: "This story has been unpublished."

I thought "unpublished" meant never published, like my unpublished novel.

I think "depublished" would be better. Spell check tried to change "depublished" to "republished" so "depublished" is not in common usage. Yet.; 12/9/16, 4:05 PM
David said...: Whoops, you beat me to it corn roaster. Well done.; 12/9/16, 4:06 PM
Gospace said...: I still know people who believe the following:
1. That Sarah Palin said she could see Russia from her front porch.
2. That Dan Quayle thought the people of Latin America spoke Latin.

We all know where the first came from. An unfunny Tina Fey comedy attempt. Don't know where it got started that Sarah Palin was the one who said it, but it spread rapidly. The second was reported as serious fact by a reporter on the plane who was there when Dan Quayle made a joke about not speaking Latin, one everyone on the plane, reporters included, understood and laughed at. Fake news.

If I gave it some thought, I could likely come up with a dozen other examples. Oh, wait! We'll go to current reporting and editorials and op-eds in newspapers throughout the country. "Donald Trump is a misogynist racist." Fake news. From the gitgo. Just now- 884,000 hits on google.; 12/9/16, 5:26 PM
JAORE said...: "Don't know where it got started that Sarah Palin was the one who said it"

Palin said she could see Russia from parts of Alaska. A true statement.; 12/9/16, 5:30 PM
donald said...: True. Was Fey the actual moron or despicable cunt?; 12/9/16, 5:47 PM
tcrosse said...: True. Was Fey the actual moron or despicable cunt?

Embrace the power of 'and'.; 12/9/16, 5:54 PM
Jon Ericson said...: more fake news; 12/9/16, 5:54 PM
Bob Ellison said...: I just saw some guy on Fox News, some called-in leftist journalist, saying that a million people got the story that the Pope endorsed Donald Trump.

Yeah, that story was burning up the web over the last few weeks.; 12/9/16, 6:11 PM
The Cracker Emcee Refulgent said...: "Was I the only person who, in glancing over the page, first misread the Prof's headline as Fake News: fake boobs?"

That's the way I initially processed it. Imagine my disappointment...

I love the fake news hoo-ha. This generation's iteration of the Left is rapidly approaching the shattering point. It'll be comic indeed to watch their befuddlement as the rest of humanity passes them by.; 12/9/16, 6:34 PM
Michael K said...: Sarah Palin has probably had more fake news published about her than anyone else. The Tucson shooting of Gabby Giffords was blamed on Palin for weeks. Such as this story.; 12/9/16, 6:42 PM
Bob Ellison said...: Just to reinforce: Hillary lost because Trump locked up the ultra-Catholic vote from an endorsement from the Pope who never saw a Marxist he didn't bless.

Fake news is fake news is fake news.; 12/9/16, 7:09 PM
Mary Beth said...: The archived Twitter post - https://web.archive.org/web/20161209035531/https:/twitter.com/kurteichenwald/status/807049382327713792

You can read the rest of the DU thread - http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028344032#post1 - where there's also a fake Trump tweet and a lot of smugness. It appears people were booing the protesters but it's more fun for them to imagine they were booing Glenn.; 12/9/16, 7:52 PM
rcocean said...: "Palin said she could see Russia from parts of Alaska. A true statement."

What they did to Palin is why Trump fires back all the time.

Of course, all smug elitists, who never won anything, hate that.

"Not Presidential", harrumph harrumph "Should be above it" harrumph harrumph.

Losers.; 12/9/16, 8:05 PM
Anonymous said...: "I'll be damned. You really can see Russia from Alaska," Tom said overbearingly.; 12/9/16, 8:12 PM
SukieTawdry said...: This story has been unpublished? LOLOL; 12/9/16, 8:52 PM
RMc said...: I actually have seen people boo John Glenn...because I went to John Glenn High School in Michigan, and people often booed our teams when we played road games.; 12/9/16, 9:16 PM
PackerBronco said...: On the other hand, a real story is when Garrison Keillor announced Reagan's death during Prairie Home Companion and the primarily democratic Minnesota audience cheered. To his credit however, Keillor admonished those in the audience who had cheered and played a respectful tribute to Reagan.; 12/9/16, 11:00 PM
J said...: Sorry Ann and Kos but from a metaphysical standpoint it is impossible to either un- or de- publish anything.Once a private writing or presentation is presented to the public it becomes the literally the peoples.It is in the public view or it is not.It might be a mistake it might be false it might be stupid -but it is out there.; 12/10/16, 12:55 AM
J said...: Sorry Ann and Kos but from a metaphysical standpoint it is impossible to either un- or de- publish anything.Once a private writing or presentation is presented to the public it becomes the literally the peoples.It is in the public view or it is not.It might be a mistake it might be false it might be stupid -but it is out there.; 12/10/16, 1:00 AM
Anonymous said...: Both un- and de-, one from the Germanic family and the other from the Latin/Romance family, can be used as reversative prefixes in English. They reverse the action of the root or base. Lock and unlock. Select and deselect. And they are currently in competition with each other in verbs like "friend/unfriend" and "friend/defriend." Un- is also a privative and that's where the ambiguity and confusion comes from.; 12/10/16, 1:00 AM
Bad Lieutenant said...: Jeff,

You mean you can't unring the bell, can't call back the bullet, can't un-eat the cake. True.

Also true is that on a clear day, one can see Russia from Alaska. Even Snopes, however grudgingly, confirms this:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/palin/russia.asp; 12/10/16, 8:50 AM