February 28, 2016

"Thanks to this provision there will be no more openings of establishments that sell food prepared in a way that could impact the decorum of our city."

"This protects not only our historic and architectural patrimony of the city centre, but also the tradition of typical culture of the Verona territory," said the mayor of Verona (the city in Italy), where — in the historic center — you're no longer permitted to open a restaurant that serves ethnic or deep-fried food.
Despite apparent growing demand for late-night kebabs, the city has been coordinating with the local diocese for years on a strict management plan to safeguard its Italian cultural values and traditions.

It is not alone. So-called “Unesco laws” are under consideration in a number of Italy’s top tourist destinations as local residents have become increasingly flustered by immigrant-run take-out eateries, service points and trinket shoppes they complain degrade their neighbourhoods.
Unesco? Verona is on the UNESCO World Heritage List.

There's a debate about whether this should be thought of as historic preservation (and support of the tourist industry) or anti-immigrant and anti-Muslim. Both templates fit.

47 comments:

John said...

So no McDonalds, then.

Right?

campy said...

Think of it as striking a blow against Cultural Appropriation.

robinintn said...

Ha. I love it when previously untouchable victim classes (historical preservaaaaation!!) collide with newer, trendier victim classes.

n.n said...

Pro-native.

rhhardin said...

No spaghetti with brown gravy, then.

YoungHegelian said...

And if we want to get really Northern Italian snooty about it, no marinara sauce, either, since that was invented by those mouth-breathing proto-humanoids that inhabit Naples.

MayBee said...

Banning late-night kebabs is anti-drunk people, not anti-Muslim.

Curious George said...

Too late Europe. The problem isn't the number of kebab shops, the problem is the number of kebab eaters.

Ken B said...

Campy: brilliant.

jaydub said...

As long as they don't close Verona's Istanbul Doner Kebab which is fabulous. Wife and I ate lunch there in November.

MaxedOutMama said...

Well, this also bans French fries and so forth, so I wouldn't say it is anti-immigrant. Tourism is extremely important for Italy, even more so now with their current problems.

But what's "ethnic"? In the US we would promptly have a bunch of court cases about that issue.

MarkW said...

No more noodles then (ethnic food from China) or tomatoes, peppers or chocolate (all ethnic foods from South America)

EDH said...

"Thanks to this provision there will be no more openings of establishments that sell food prepared in a way that could impact the decorum of our city."

Funny, when I read that I thought of San Francisco, the homeless and corn on the cob.

Laslo Spatula said...

"Farook!"

"Yes, Amir?"

"Our cousin Denzel in Verona is being prevented from opening his Kebab Shop!"

"Is it the Jews?"

"Well, it's the Italians, I think, but it is very Jewishy of them."

"Why are they doing such a thing?"

"To protect their Heritage, they say."

"Don't they realize that Kebab Shops are the only thing Westerners like about us Muslim immigrants? They hate us for everything else, but they sure love the Kebabs."

"And the Schwarma."

"Indeed, indeed: the Schwarma, too."

"Is there anything we can do to help him?"

"I was thinking we could bomb a local Pizza Hut as a sign of protest."

"That is GOOD, Farook! But we like to eat take-out from Pizza Hut. And the delivery guy from Domino's is already onto us."

"Then how about we bomb the McDonalds? We don't eat there."

"But they are Scottish, not Italian."

"I'm sure we hate the Scottish infidels, too, Amir."

"No doubt we do, Farook, but I am worried our Statement might get muddled."

"So Pizza Hut it is. Do you have any bombs ready?"

"Ummm..."

"You still haven't built any bombs, Amir? There is only so much research you can do on anti-Muslim Microaggressions in Western Internet Porn."

"But there is lot there if you know what to look for, Farook. There are hundreds of videos of men fucking women dressed in burkas, for instance."

"Do we take that as an insult or a compliment, Amir?"

"I am not sure. I need to do some more research, then consult with our Cleric."

"So we don't have any bombs. What can we do?"

"We can call Pizza Hut and ask for a female delivery person, then we can grope her when she arrives."

"But they'll know it is us, her coming to our Apartment and all."

"You know, Farook: waging war against the West can be harder than it looks..."

"I know. Perhaps we should get some Shwarma and think about this some more..."

I am Laslo.

Temujin said...

Using the system to beat the system. Good idea, actually.

The Drill SGT said...

MarkW said...

and potatoes

Witness said...

There's always the possibility that Historic Preservation is anti-immigrant.

HoodlumDoodlum said...

Unfair Verona?

The Drill SGT said...

YoungHegelian said...
And if we want to get really Northern Italian snooty about it, no marinara sauce, either,


Though Northern Italians don't give much respect to anybody who lives South of Rome, they save the special insults for the Sicilians, whom they call "Baptized Arabs"

Gahrie said...

Just wait until they turn the Leaning Tower of Pisa into a minaret.

BDNYC said...

It's also anticonsumer. Give the people what they want!

pm317 said...

A permanent underclass in all these uppity (white) enclaves is developing and (white) people are revolting. That is happening too in America, thanks to globalization and increased mobility. What to do with these poor people and tougher if they are aliens?

My first trip abroad, to Holland and we used to use a laundromat across the street (this story is about 30 years ago) that was run by a mother and daughter team. As everything else in Holland at the time, it was clean and spic and span. The mother was about late 50s. She didn't speak English. But she had this beautiful demeanor of peace and content. I was puzzled by that and I saw that all over Holland, contented happy people, even the bottom rung. Here she is doing menial work and probably not much money and she looks so contented and happy. So that was what it was in most of the western rich countries until three decades ago. And now it is changing in startling ways. What to do? Is this what the politicians, especially Dems mean when they are talking about income inequality? A permanent underclass (smelly)?

Ignorance is Bliss said...

Two households, both alike in dignity,
In fair Verona, where we lay our scene,
From ancient grudge break to new mutiny,
Where civil blood makes civil hands unclean.


But HoodlumDoodlum's reference was both sooner and more clever

Tom said...

Heratige, not hate! Now get away from that lunch counter, boy.

pm317 said...

Actually I relate better to the white man's culture in all these rich countries. I would object too when the smelly permanent underclass take over in your apartments, on your streets, in your neighborhoods. So what is the solution? Make enough money to buy your own house to cook your spicy, smelly Indian food so that you don't stink up the entire hallway in an Apartment building would be a start.

Bob Ellison said...

They cook pig in Mexico better than anywhere else. That's America's southern backstop against Islamism. Preserve the cultural heritage that is chili verde!

Skipper said...

Historic preservation is a euphemism for government control of building stuff and now, almost everything else.

Fernandinande said...

Verona is on the UNESCO World Heritage List.
"As far as the fortified town is concerned, the defence system has been well preserved through the continuity of its military use over time. Surviving evidence of the fortified town, such as Roman gates and Renaissance bastions, reflect this long military history."

So they've had plenty of practice at racist bigoted nativism. That's naughty.

traditionalguy said...

Decorum Laws. Conduct unbecoming an Italian. I love it.

What's next? No murdering infidels.

Mary Beth said...

I want to know what's Italian for "gimcrackery".

Roughcoat said...

As a Chicagoan, I could get behind a ban on putting ketchup on hotdogs. Only barbarians do that.

Gahrie said...

Chicago has no room for complaint after what they did to pizza....

LarsPorsena said...

Blogger The Drill SGT said...
YoungHegelian said...
And if we want to get really Northern Italian snooty about it, no marinara sauce, either,

Though Northern Italians don't give much respect to anybody who lives South of Rome, they save the special insults for the Sicilians, whom they call "Baptized Arabs"



2/28/16, 8:54 AM
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What is the difference between a Sicilian and an African?

50 miles of Mediterranean.

Jupiter said...

"There's a debate about whether this should be thought of as historic preservation (and support of the tourist industry) or anti-immigrant and anti-Muslim. Both templates fit."


There is no need to choose one or the other. The preservation of Western Culture in Europe, in the unlikely event that it takes place, will require a vigorous assault on Islam. Think El Cid.

David said...

This from the nation that invented the Pizza Parlor.

Char Char Binks said...

There's a Verona in ITALY!?

Skeptical Voter said...

Even a Sicilian will make a joke along the lines of "A Sicilian is an African turned inside out."

But no kebabs in Verona? We're into some serious stuff here.

Rae said...

I was in Italy in November. Italians take food seriously, and pride in regional variations is a real thing. And they don't think much of fast food, so the only place I saw a McDonalds was in Rome, and I bet that place was thoroughly Italianized.

I did see a few Chinese restaurants.

There is a lot of concern about terrorism and foreign refugees. Of course - I was in Italy the night of the Paris attacks! Overnight there were Police and soldiers anywhere of value.

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Bill in Pasadena said...

McDonalds had great cappuccinos in Milan. China cup with saucer, too.

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Paco Wové said...

Tourism is an important part of Italy's economy, so they don't want to do anything to dilute the Italian-ness of the touristy bits. This is an uphill fight in an era of globalization, which works to fill every bit of the world with a homogeneous "multicultural" ooze.

The Drill SGT said...

coupe said...

Likely the reference to Africans means "North Africans", aka the same Arab gene pool that invaded Sicily throughout the 7th-10th centuries, rather than black sub-saharans.

Fred Drinkwater said...

When you cross the Grand Canal from the Venice train station, on the Ponte degli Scalzi, the building right in front of you contains a discreetly tucked away Burger King. The SECOND thing you might notice if you continue south on the Calle Lunga, is the Pizzeria Vittoria.
The occasional furtive ad for the BK can be found scattered around the city if you are observant.

Freder Frederson said...

The Sicilian women still have their clitoris.

I never understood why the Africans chop off the clitoris. I mean, they're already all ugly as sin, with tits down to their knees...

A big ole hairy Sicilian woman, now that's a remarkable difference. I saw one in a bikini who had pubic hair all the way up to her navel.


Comments are moderated!? Really!? After six hours this irrelevant, racist, sexist comment is still up?

You have called me an asshole several times. Yet this guy is not an asshole. What the hell is wrong with you?

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Bob R said...

Venice may be Disneyland on the Adriatic, but it's still mobbed with tourists. Being a living, evolving city sometimes is not good for the tourist trade.