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9:11 — Megyn Kelly asks Donald Trump about how he calls women "fat pigs." Trump: "Only Rosie O'Donnell." Trump segues into saying the country has a "big problem" with "being politically correct." He doesn't have time for "total political correctness." Trump adds that he's been very nice to Megyn Kelly — "although I could be not so nice to you based on how you've treated me."...
9:46 — Trump is asked about some of his liberal views. He emphasizes that he was the only one on the stage to oppose the Iraq war from the beginning. Then he actually praises "single-payer health care," at least as it exists in other countries. Trump suggests that single-payer might have worked at one point in this country, but says that now he wants to privatize the system. Paul: "I think you're on the wrong side of this if you're arguing for single-payer." Trump: "I think you misheard me. You're having a hard time with that."
Paul did get it wrong, whether he "misheard" or decided to get it wrong on purpose. What was up with Paul talking out of turn? He did it very conspicuously twice.
9:49 — Trump is asked what he got from his donations to Nancy Pelosi and Hillary Clinton. What he got from Clinton: "She came to my wedding."
Why would you even want that?!
10:28 — Trump responds to Bush's past attacks on his tone: "We don't have time for tone. We have to go out and get the job done."...
Notice: before the debate, everyone was worried that Trump was going to ignore the rules and talk over everyone. But he didn't. That was the dog that didn't bark.
Trump didn't, but Paul did. Twice. But twice isn't such a huge deal.
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I thought what Trump said was "You're having a tough time tonight"
Trump narrowed his followers to the Perot wing. Carly had the best day and Carson had a great closing speech. Otherwise, I watched the Murder Channel about an interesting murder case. Switched back and forth. My nausea quotient is low.
"Trump suggests that single-payer might have worked at one point in this country, .."
For Christ's sake, when?
I think Kasich did great.
I agree mostly with Paul but my gut says Paul needs to stay in the Senate.
Trump still refuses to be domesticated. He's running against the usual bullshit. If only he didn't have his own unique trunkfull of BS it would be completely compelling.
There's a lot of "junk" in the Trump trunk, and I'm not talking about his physique. And of course you have to think twice before voting for a guy who wears a dead raccoon on his head.
Did it seem like Trump has dirt on Kelly?
Watching her show I've wondered if, in some ways, she's a bit of a Big Apple type who plays to the con rubes that she knows are in the audience. I'm sure she's conservative (in many ways), but I'm not sure that her pov is quite the same as her non ny based, non-lawyer viewers.
Maybe Trump's got dirt along this line.
But, she's hot. If she wasn't maybe Trump would unload.
Not to mention that she's got her job because she's hot.
This context makes her question more interesting.
Trump is a used car salesman.
And tonight he gave a not-so-veiled threat he would do a Ross Perot and run as a independent if he didn't get the nomination.
Yes a shabby used car salesman.
Having watched none of the pre-early-prime debates I'm going with the sane right-of-center opinion Ms. Fiorina (Carly) has, to date, shown herself to be the most competent of the scrum to actually be President.
My first Presidential election, Goldwater in '64 &, to this day,I believe his loss ushered in the long road to failure this Nation is traveling! Fortunately I'll be fertilizer before the final unraveling. In other words, fuck you, I don't care!
I think you got the Paul Trump exchange exactly backwards
"Maybe Trump's got dirt along this line."
You mean like the dirt in your brain ? Come on. Try to be serious.
Good grief, some of the Trump supporters are getting as nasty as Ron Paulians.
Arguing with one because I said I thought Walker did well. He's saying Wisconsin isn't doing so well under his governorship.
For you Wisconsin people, would you say your state has gone to shit since he was elected three times?
I liked the Rosie O'Donnell line. It was delivered perfectly and with timing so perfect it almost sounded rehearsed. I say that, not as a Trump fan; he has no business being in any more Republican debates as long as he's mulling a third party run.
Wasn't that the big story of the night, exposed in the first 30 seconds? Trump won't pledge to support the Republican nominee. Now we know his game.
So do you want the used car bad enough to bargain with the man or not . ..is that beneath your dignity?
U.S. Presidential Politics has been a bargaining business since George Washington retired. In 1824 Andy Jackson was treated like Trump warns the GOP not to Treat him else.
And guess what's? Jackson then, and Trump now , meant they would hurt the people who do a totally corrupt bargain at his expense.
Trump has completely written off the fat sluts. Fat sluts are a significant portion of the American electorate. As fat sluts go, so goes the election.
"Trump now , meant they would hurt the people who do a totally corrupt bargain at his expense."
And fuck the country.
Skeptical Voter said...
There's a lot of "junk" in the Trump trunk, and I'm not talking about his physique. And of course you have to think twice before voting for a guy who wears a dead raccoon on his head.
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It's an "homage" to Disney's "Davey Crockett" back in the mid 1050's.
Erm...1950's, for those in Rio Madison.
My favorite performances of the night, in approximate order of best to last. These are not listed in any sort of order of my favorite candidates. Part of this is "exceeding expectations." These were the people who I think performed best tonight in both debates:
1. Kasich
2. Rubio
3. Fiorino
4. Walker
5. Perry
6. Carson
7. Cruz
8. Jindal
9. Huckabee
10. Paul
11. Christie
12. Trump
13. Bush
14. Santorum
15. Graham
16. Pataki
17. Gilmore
Trump bragged about his savvy in leaving his investors holding the bag for billions of dollars. I'm sure he'll be much more faithful to his GOP voters.
I hope Carly performed well enough to start stealing support from Trump.
Carly's post-debate take down of Chris Matthews was pretty awesome. That is what the base is waiting for..someone who fights and wins based on the facts. If Carly can get some coverage, much of Trump's support will shift quickly to her.
Only a party as stupid as today's GOP would invite a snake-in-the-grass phony like Trump to defecate in their tent. A few years ago, the ruthless teflon democrats had a scheduled debate cancelled because it was broadcast by FOX. Total hypocrite cowards, but there's a reason why only republicans have boutique candidates showing up and shitting on them.
"Carly's post-debate take down of Chris Matthews was pretty awesome."
Yes, it was. Too bad it was on MSNBC and, therefore, seen by almost no one.
Matthews is still calling her "Fiorino." Some of the clips of the exchange have the first several seconds, when Matthews mispronounces her name, edited out. He's been doing that for years. I can't understand why his handlers haven't fixed him on that -- it's really insulting and not Matthews typical insult so probably ignorant and undisciplined rather than deliberate.
"But twice isn't such a huge deal."
Yeah, it is. One outburst is a huge deal. Twice is a huge billboard that says "This shithead doesn't observe the rules of order, can't control himself, and is incapable of polity and diplomacy." Ron Paul is the republican party's Unabomber. A geo-political luddite writing his crackpot manifestos from an obscure hideout. Occasionally he drops a bomb that has people shaking their heads, saying "...this asshole's still out there...". Other times he mumbles and shouts out of turn during a debate, like a mental patient babbling to himself.
Ron Paul wasn't in the debate.
"Matthews is still calling her "Fiorino." Some of the clips of the exchange have the first several seconds, when Matthews mispronounces her name, edited out. He's been doing that for years. I can't understand why his handlers haven't fixed him on that -- it's really insulting and not Matthews typical insult so probably ignorant and undisciplined rather than deliberate."
Oh it's probably deliberate. Tingle Leg stills refers to the former VP as Dick Chee Knee.
Dr. Carson said the right things, but did not put them well.
So it is still that he raises the tone of the place wherever he goes, but a politician he is not.
What was up with Paul talking out-of-turn? How about the fact that he was very blatantly shafted on time? The time for each candidate (as measured by Domenico Montanaro):
Trump 10:30
Bush 8:33
Huckabee 6:32
Carson 6:28
Cruz 6:28
Kasich 6:25
Rubio 6:22
Christie 6:03
Walker 5:43
Paul 4:51
I think part of the reason for that is that Walker and Paul both answered their questions, said what they wanted to say, and then stopped talking, instead of blathering on just to fill up their allotted time. Maybe not a good strategy but kind of refreshing, to me at least.
"Fair and balanced," but Chris Wallace just could not hide his disdain and dislike for Donald Trump.
"Jaltcoh live-blogged the debate."
If a tree falls in the forest....
Chris Wallace would not go to a cocktail party where Trump might also be present.
Rocketeer said...
Ron Paul wasn't in the debate.
8/7/15, 5:16 AM
...um- Never mind...(slaps himself in the face with a fish)
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