December 23, 2013

"Opposition to Obamacare rose six points among women, from 54% in November to 60% now..."

"... while opinion of the new law remained virtually unchanged among men.... That's bad news for an administration that is reaching out to moms across the country in an effort to make Obamacare a success."

A CNN poll.
Sixty-three percent say they believe the new law will increase the amount of money they personally pay for medical care, which may not be a good sign for a law known as the "Affordable Care Act."
Yeah, maybe not.

32 comments:

MadisonMan said...

Despite all the problems, the President said things are starting to improve, adding that more than 500,000 Americans enrolled in the Affordable Care Act through HealthCare.gov during the first three weeks of December.

Well, if the President said things are starting to improve, then I guess we have to believe him. Although starting to improve can mean exactly nothing.

At the rate of 500K per three weeks, by the end of next year, a whole 50M will have signed up. In 5 years we'll be at full enrollment.

Bob R said...

Depends on what the meaning of "enrolled" is.

I Have Misplaced My Pants said...

I do not understand this "reaching out to moms" business. What do they hope to accomplish? They can reach out all they want but it will not change the fundamental problem, which is that Obamacare = a logistically aggravating compulsory purchase of a crummy product at absurdly high prices.

Michael said...

Well, it turns out that your free birth control costs you an extra grand a month.

Henry said...

There is something truly bizarre about the concept that a political administration can tailor a message specifically to "moms."

It's the lickspittle offspring of targeted marketing and political hackery, the insipid child of pseudoscience and unfettered self-regard.

The party that can't legislate and can't execute still thinks it can win on messaging. The monsoons of reality have arrived. Désormais, le déluge.

Insufficiently Sensitive said...

Sixty-three percent say they believe the new law will increase the amount of money they personally pay for medical care

No one ever seems to ask how much money they personally should pay for other people's medical care.

alan markus said...
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alan markus said...

I looked back at this post on October 1st. Inga had three Facebook friends that were able to access the site on the first day (despite the website crashing that day).

href="http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6329595&postID=7445571918247938188">How's that Health Care.gov website working out for you?


Blogger Inga said...

"Just checked our family health plan on the new "exchange" (which is a price comparison website). It's $40 LESS than our current plan, same insurance carrier, same plan. Yessss!"

Wisconsin Health Insurance Exchange

Posted by a friend on Facebook.

10/1/13, 7:02 PM


And more:

Blogger Inga said...

"On a personal level...my daughter has a pre-cancerous condition and could not afford health insurance that was offered to her from her place of employment because of it...now she is covered...so the only worry we have now is if this pre-cancer condition blossoms...but at least she'll be able to get help."


" My 19 year old son, has a separation in his atrium/ventricular valve and needs to be seen regularly by a cardiologist. He will now be able to receive medical care. Hallelujah!"

From two more friends on Facebook.

10/1/13, 7:46 PM


Gee, someone has 3 Facebook friends that got through the website on the first day, despite the glitchy roll out - with those numbers, should have been much easier to hit 50M by now.

Franklin said...

Racists and misogynists, all of them.

Franklin said...

Racists and misogynists, all of them.

Original Mike said...

"Well, it turns out that your free birth control costs you an extra grand a month."

Quelle surprise.

Original Mike said...

"I do not understand this "reaching out to moms" business."

They think women are easier marks. Looking at their election totals, it would be hard to argue with them.

cubanbob said...

Alan you didn't actually believe Inga would have read the fine print. She very well may have coverage and subsidized coverage at that but she has been silent on whether her doctors are accepting her new plan.

betamax3000 said...

I Want to Know How Many of These Moms are Also MILFs: Just Trying to Get a Clearer Picture of This.

Henry said...

They think women are easier marks. Looking at their election totals, it would be hard to argue with them.

All moms are women. Not all women are moms.

mccullough said...

Women and children can be careless. But not men.

Original Mike said...

"All moms are women. Not all women are moms."

They hoodwinked the single women with "free" contraceptives. Now it's time to bamboozle the moms.

Henry said...

Now it's time to bamboozle the moms.

With what? The "cool stuff for free" stage of this fiasco is over.

The ACA was designed, intentionally, to land the high-profile low-cost stuff first, before the 2012 election. Bamboozling worked great in that vacuum. Not so much now.

Freeman Hunt said...

You could fool them when it was all talk. Now it's time to write the checks. Can't fool them anymore.

Alex said...

I'm sure you can get another poll that will support ACA if you phrase it differently. People are always glad to have a perceived free lunch.

Original Mike said...

Didn't say it was going to work. OTH, I'm not so confident.

n.n said...

Perhaps there aren't as many mothers who desire that their children grow up to be Pajama boys and girls. Perhaps there aren't so many Pajama boys and girls as Obama would have us believe. People may be a bit more ambitious and courageous than the confines of their Pajamas would permit.

hawkeyedjb said...

Yeah, that Reaching out to Moms thing is gonna work. If only the people who sold Yugos had thought of that! "Hey, we'll sell a bunch of these shitbuckets if we reach out to the Momz!"

Kind of insulting if you're a Mom with Brains. If you're holding out for more freebies, maybe not.

RecChief said...

I dislike Obamacare, the way in which it was passed; inability of its writers and supporters to see the consequences; the lies told in order to sell it; the nakedly political waiver, exemptions, and delays.

Having said that, if higher out of pocket expenses cause the populace to stop running to the doctor every time they get the sniffles or a hangnail, that's a good thing.

It also just struck me that with very high deductibles, if people acted rationally, that would make all Obamacare plans "catastrophic plans". That is, people will hold out going to the doctor until there is really something wrong with them.

Original Mike said...

"It also just struck me that with very high deductibles, if people acted rationally, that would make all Obamacare plans "catastrophic plans". That is, people will hold out going to the doctor until there is really something wrong with them."

Yes, but how long do you think the high deductibles will withstand the political pressure? It is fatal to the health care system of this country to have the government pulling all the strings.

RecChief said...

@Original Mike,
yes, I agree that having the government run healthcare is a recipe for ruin.

But that doesn't change the fact that our former (pre-Obamacare) health insurane system was distorted because people didn't understand that when they paid $15 for an office the actual cost of the office visit was anywhere between $65 and $90. It would be better if those costs weren't hidden (in plain sight).

Original Mike said...

I couldn't agree more, RecChief.

Bob Loblaw said...

How much of the Obamacare bill included funding for all of these marketing initiatives?

I've never heard of a government program that had such a private-sector-type ad blitz, including the hundreds of millions paid to 'navigators' (read: Obama campaign volunteers).

The Godfather said...

It's essential that those who oppose Obamacare keep the public focused on the fact that the problems that are now coming to light are not glitches. Glitches can be fixed. The problems that we are now seeing reflect the nature of Obamacare: YOU have to pay more, so others can pay less; certain groups, like unions and people in Congress or who work for Congress, get waivers; the President can grant waivers to groups that he thinks will helps him politically, and if you aren't in a position to help the President, well that's just too bad, isn't it?

Drago said...

Alex: "I'm sure you can get another poll that will support ACA if you phrase it differently."

LOL

Yeah, why haven't MSNBC/CNN/NBC/CNBC/ABC/CBS/PBS/NYT/WP/LAT etc done that?

Pssst, they have....but there is no way to word a poll question where the people who are getting screwed "forget" they are getting screwed and answer the way the obambi-as-messiah followers desire.

Rusty said...


But that doesn't change the fact that our former (pre-Obamacare) health insurane system was distorted because people didn't understand that when they paid $15 for an office the actual cost of the office visit was anywhere between $65 and $90. It would be better if those costs weren't hidden (in plain sight).

Obamacare was not the way to fix it.
Market based solutions work for most participants.

Trashhauler said...

It appears that the first lie about the Affordable Care Act was inherent in its title.