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June 16, 2009
K-Lo leaves NRO and TBogg makes an anti-Hispanic joke about it.
That's the way I read this.
Gawker speculates that National Review is hurting for cash after the death of William F. Buckley.
Sadly, No! goes with the sexist approach to the news.
Gawker speculates that National Review is hurting for cash after the death of William F. Buckley.
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K-Lo certainly drove me away from The Corner.
``We all agree that'' applied relentlessly to things we don't all agree that isn't a great idea.
Buckley went downhill pretty fast around 2003, as well.
I am not sure what the story is on Ms. Lopez. She reminded me of some girls I knew from parochial school with, smart, uptight, and a little too tightly wound. But that said, even though I am far more of a fan of VDH, Goldberg, Geraghty, and York, I liked K-Lo. I liked her a lot. There was something charming about her nerdy earnstness, her adoration of all things Romney, her steadfast commitment to right to life issues. She was true to herself.
I do not want this to read as an obituary, because it most certainly is not. K-Lo in DC may be an excellent new adventure and a new chapter in her life. She is a young woman and presumably wants to find some guy and start a family (unfortunately New York and DC are not necessarily the best places for that to happen) or (and am I crazy for even thinking this) she would make a great nun. And the teasing of the left just shows that K-Lo managed to get under their skin.
Good luck and Godspeed K-Lo.
Tbogg made fun of someone else's career. Now that is funny!
Apparently K-Low over did the free speech balancing act and she lost her friends.
Alright! Maybe my blogging's having an impact on you Ann!
I realized I don't know anyone in this drama. I am happy.
Last night, several women from church were over to discuss Noam Chomsky's fascinating speech last Friday. And, as it always does, the Corner on National Review came up. We decided that this poor Kathryn Jean must be a self-loathing minority who is nothing more than window dressing for the white males who run National Review. Conchata interrupted her dusting to agree with us. If that's not absolute moral authority, then what is?
Jesus, what kind of idiot has never heard the phrase "head honcho?"
Anyway, just anotherin my continuing point that there is nothing that drives a liberal man more crazy than a sexy conservative woman. make her a minority and you can hear the heads exploding.
Tiny Jones, come home....
I heart your sarcasticry.
I stopped reading NRO about a couple years ago, not sure why. I used to like it when Jonah Goldberg was kind of helming the show, and then it got all down in the dumps Krikorian and Derbyshire. I dunno, they are always so grumpy! I know it's their schtick, but still....it's grumpy!
(Also, they do lame arts stuff and movie reviews and all that. Why isn't their a good conservative journal that is arty arty arty, or, I mean, why can't they write about art well? I mean, not just, why isn't art good like it used to be in the old days, but stuff that people actually make now, that is good. Point it out! I want more art!)
Nothing good can come from a nickname like that.
I used to visit The Corner a lot, some good contributors and a nice variety of topics. In the last several years I've gone less and less, primarially because I don't care for the style personified by Ramesh Ponnuru, which I don't care for even when I agree with it.
K-Lo is far more tolerable than that, but still....
Yeah, I know. Ramesh Ponnuru always confuses me...like, even when I agree with him, I'm all like: why did you put it like that? But of course, we can all see here that language is not my forte...that's why I want more pictures (art) in the mags, thanks.
I like K-Lo too, but thought she was a drag on The Corner. Fred4Pres comes close to how I felt about her writing there. That group lost their sparkle around election time for me. It used to be a daily "must read" for me but I haven't been there in months. Though maybe that's just a reflection of my feeling of being lost as to who to read now on the conservative/libertarian side of things.
Jesus, what kind of idiot has never heard the phrase "head honcho?"
Seriously. They went out of their way to be a jerk, didn't they?
I don't really care about this person, as I really only check out the corner for Jonah and not often. Some of those other people are pretty annoying.
I thought people were joking . . . they really didn't know what head honcho meant. You have to giggle.
I like K-L0 and Jonah. The rest I just sort of pick and choose from on a daily basis.
Agree with Fred4 and Darcy, but less a fan.
She didn't seem "worldly" enough to be the editor of other people's work, especially for a political blog.
The jerk knew what "honcho" means; he was just waxing pedantic (at first) about K-Lo using it as a verb. Naturally he went on to ruin the joke-- to the extent that so wan a joke can be ruined-- by coming up with a substitute guess that's not a verb either.
I believe in free speech, but.....
I don't think K-Lo is LEAVING. She said she was following in Goldberg's steps and moving to DC ... I'm guessing she's taking a less demanding NRO job so she can work on a book.... her own "Liberal Fascism" if you will... after all, webeditor is probably a thankless job......
Can't comment on her editing skills, as I don't read National Review. But her blogging skills sucked.
Anyway, just anotherin my continuing point that there is nothing that drives a liberal man more crazy than a sexy conservative woman.
I don't mean to be disrespectful to Lopez, but she doesn't seem particularly sexy. Indeed, I don't think "sexiness" has been part of her public persona at all. She's not Anne Coulter, after all.
I don't care for the style personified by Ramesh Ponnuru, which I don't care for even when I agree with it.
Really? Ponnuru is actually one of my favourite writers there. His writing is bland and unexciting, but he's generally sober and thoughtful -- moreso at least than most of his fellow NRO contributors.
They can’t even get the sex right. The derogative "hincho" is a male.
Another problem with the poor insinuation is that if you take into account 'el bulgo' of the average latin macho where the derogative “hincho” comes from, a female “honcho” doesn’t translate into much of anything resembling that reality.
In short, instead of coming off edgy, the K Lo critic showed a great deal of ignorance.
Why isn't their a good conservative journal that is arty arty arty, or, I mean, why can't they write about art well?...Point it out! I want more art!
I suggest you look at The New Criterion. A truly excellent publication which is conservative and "arty arty arty".
Conchata interrupted her dusting to agree with us.
That was my ant Conchita you asshole.
The first entry on Bing and the 2nd on Google give the correct definition of Honcho. Plus, who doesn't already know what that means anyway?
TBogg just beclowned himself.
Thanks, I admire, and like, even, the New Criterion, but sometimes I feel like it is 'smothering' to read, it's like going to the Boston MFA and looking at beautiful things, and coming out an hour later sneezing at the dust. Still. It's really, really good.
Maybe I'm just fickle.
Okay, enough blog commenting for now.
Later, alligators.
Nowadays almost all discussion can be brought to a screeching halt by imputing a sexist or racist motive to an action, any action. The death of dialogue age.
I used to read the Corner infrequently. Now I never do.
She was absolutely the worst though. She's a big, and I mean BIG Homo Hater, living in Chelsea. I hope she doesn't move to Dupont Circle.
Over at The Corner, K-Lo played the most thankless role--the straight man. Without her, Jonah and the guys would be all Star Trek, BSG and The Simpsons all day long. NTTIAWWT, but still.
Katey Jo has a nice pair of tits though. I wouldn't mind plowing her.
The Corner doesn't allow comments...does it really count as a "blog"?
Nowadays almost all discussion can be brought to a screeching halt by imputing a sexist or racist motive to an action, any action. The death of dialogue age.
See trolls*
I am probably dating myself, but honcho is, IIRC, a Korean or perhaps Japanese term for "boss." During the Korean war there was an organization called KATUSAs (Korean Augmentation to the US Army) and many American soldiers picked up some of the Korean words. TBogg apparently doesnt know a lot, and secure in his/her ignorance was incapable of using google.
I always wanted to go on a NRO cruise to check out Katey Jo in her thong. It made me horny just thinking about it.
I wonder if there were any K Lo Trains taking place on the Corner Cruises.
Really? Ponnuru is actually one of my favourite writers there. His writing is bland and unexciting, but he's generally sober and thoughtful -- moreso at least than most of his fellow NRO contributors.
Too thoughtful, its like he's always trying to do a damn masters thesis on why murder is wrong.
Plus he was one of the folks at NRO that trashed the entire republican field for all sorts on reasons, many miniscule, and gave life to the last man standing John McCain, whom they had already written off. Of course they didn't like him either and the whole well "he sucks less than the other guy" general election angle didn't generate much enthusiasm.
Jonah and the guys would be all Star Trek, BSG and The Simpsons all day long.
You left out Babylon 5.
For that treasonous act you are hereby sentenced to be ejected out the nearest airlock ;)
I wonder what cup size Katey Jo is.
She has some big ass milkers.
You left out Babylon 5.
For that treasonous act you are hereby sentenced to be ejected out the nearest airlock ;).
Oh Lem you are so correct. Well said. Capt. Kirk doesn't have nearly the best quotes as Londo Molari.
Is that a real honcho, I mean is that a Mexican honcho or is that a Sears honcho?
I am probably dating myself, but honcho is, IIRC, a Korean or perhaps Japanese term for "boss." During the Korean war there was an organization called KATUSAs (Korean Augmentation to the US Army) and many American soldiers picked up some of the Korean words.
I believe it's Japanese, from hanchou (班長).
I don't believe anyone as young as K Lo should be entitled to have as many chins as she does.
She also needs to do something about the unibrow.
Other than that I absolutely ador her. Love her, would love to cuddle with her.
My sense is she is still a virgin and I have so much respect for that. Too many women are sluts nowadays.
I hope they gave her a generous severance package. I said package.
She was so brave too walking around Chelsea proudly with her XXXLarge Sarah Palin shirt on.
SteveR on Ponnuru: Yes!
Count me as one who has never been particularly impressed by K-Lo’s writing or argumentation skills. Having said that, it was a another piece of evidence in what Aaron pointed out earlier about liberal white males and their sexual frustration in regards to conservative women, Granted, K-Lo is not remotely sexy, but Micelle Malkin is, and if you read further on TBogg (who is he/she, anyway?), you will get an idea of how TBogg and the commenters feel about conservative women of color. The racist and sexist comments about Malkin are just vile.
Note to onparkstreet: if you don’t like New Criterion you might try “Commentary.” It’s not about art, per se, but Terry Teachout nearly always has a music review, they often have articles about art, and in nearly every issue there is a short story. There is also “Touchstone” magazine. It’s from the C.S. Lewis branch of Christianity, if you are okay with that. Most of it is religious in nature, but they often have additional articles on art as it relates to religion. A warning: relatively little is accessible online; they want you to subscribe to the paper copy. If you want more pictures, you are almost certainly going to have more words accompanying them.
Lem and Hoosier Daddy, absolutely agree on Babylon 5. B5 is one of the most seriously underrated shows of the last 25 years. It had a grittiness and texture to it that Star Trek usually lacked. In fact, I think B5 pushed DS-9 to be a lot better; the writers for DS-9 knew they had real competition.
Balfegor: thanks! if the word is Japanese no self respecting Korean would be using it!
The whore Kathryn Jean should praise Allah (PBUH) that she does not need to disgrace her family by working with her head uncovered before men to whom she is not related. It is a blessing from Allah (PBUH) that she will be able to be unemployed in Washington, D.C.
you will get an idea of how TBogg and the commenters feel about conservative women of color.
You mean as oppossed to the civil treatment that Michele Obama and Sonia Sontomyer get here.
/sarcasm
Bring me the head of Londo Molari!
K-Lo is the very earnest chick in high school who was always editor of the yearbook or some such. You don't want to totally blow her off because the earnestness is kind of cute, in a beaten puppy sort of way, and there's always the chance she might grow up to be hot.
Or as the Bloodhound Gang sang "You're pretty when I'm drunk and I'm pretty f**king drunk".
Who the hell is Sonia Sontomyer and why does she deserve anything other than being treated in an uncivil way?
I for one will not miss K-LO that much. I liked her Catholic voice over there but that was about it.
I don't think they realized how their actions during the Republican primary and other events were driving readers away. The attacks on other conservatives for instance that were not named Romney were horrible. K-Lo was personally leading the attack on Huckabee months after the race had ended.
I have always wondered if the Club for Growth has an arrangement with her.
Her conduct during the immigration battles was not stellar or well thought out. She apparently thought there was need to bring in a immigration reform supporting pundit to counter Mark Krikorian.
Why National Review has to decided to associate with the radical poltics of Krikorian I don't know.
So maybe Rich can balance it out. I still go the Corner each day but I could deal with a few less Crusades against people in the GOP over there
I read the Corner frequently, and K-Lo is my least favorite commenter. It's usually a strain to listen to the arguments of someone with a religious or quasi-religious belief in their subject. So often their belief is founded on faith and their appeals to reason seem (and I think often are) disingenuous. Derbyshire caused quite a stir over there by saying something similar about Ramesh's book. Of course, I could say much the same about many commenters on gay marriage, global warming, feminism.
The Corner is a pretty lively place and K-Lo has been the editor, so I assume she deserves a good deal of credit. She may actually do better (and more for her cause) in a position that does not require her to make arguments to the public.
She did think that Christmas Carol movie was one of the best movies she ever saw so there is something to respect about that.
It's usually a strain to listen to the arguments of someone with a religious or quasi-religious belief in their subject.
I very much agree with this in most cases. There are exceptions, but in the political realm I would prefer to hear different types of arguments.
She did think that Christmas Carol movie was one of the best movies she ever saw so there is something to respect about that.
I actually saw that movie. God was it terrible. I think there was one funny part and even that wasn't great.
"She apparently thought there was need to bring in a immigration reform supporting pundit to counter Mark Krikorian"
I agree with Krikorian, but it's good to have a contrary view to sharpen up his arguments. Nadler seemed to be arguing from mostly a libertarian viewpoint, and the conservatives vs. the libertarians is always an interesting debate that improves both sides for having been done.
I got the impression that K-Lo was more diligent and earnest than talented or interesting.
Okay, I regret my silliness and stupid comments above, but let them stand! Actions have consequences - I will not self-delete my comment.
1. I like NRO, but some alchemy is missing, I don't know what it is, it used to be better in the past.
2. K-Lo was fine for me, neutral but nice and sweet.
3. I dunno what I meant by the silly art comments, maybe just that sometimes I want conservatives to stop complaining about culture, but create it, vigorously. Which, I suppose they do...look at some genre fiction, for example.
4. Roger Scruton has a beautiful essay on art and beauty in City-Journal right now, so of course there are conservative journals that deal well with art and culture, what was I thinking?
5. Thanks for the suggestions, above, and for taking my silliness seriously.
I think K-Lo should marry Titus and bear his children. They're both Republican, and they both have solid Midwest values. Plus he finds her to be attractive, which is a mighty plus.
If he has any difficulty in performing his marital duties, Titus could always prop a little DVD player on the headboard, and watch gay porn.
Aaron said...
Jesus, what kind of idiot has never heard the phrase "head honcho?"
The same grade of idiot who thinks "honcho" is a Spanish word?
Balfegor is correct: In Japanese hancho means group leader, from han "corps, squad" + cho "head, chief."
American GI's picked it up during the Japanese occupation and it's been military slang for boss ever since, thus it's usage in Korea.
Aw, come on. Be fair to TBogg. He didn't say he didn't know the word "honcho." He said he didn't know the usage as a verb.
I would love to marry K Lo.
I bet she has quite a bit of pent up sexual fantasies that are ready to explode.
You know she would be wild in the sack.
She can't ever be on top though. I am fragile.
I bet there is some good pussy under that fat. Get a vacuum to get out the cobwebs and Just lift up the fat and begin to plow. I would be up for that.
So "head honcho" is redundant.
K Lo didn't have much to say that wasn't about abortion or Mitt, or maybe that's all I noticed.
Will Althouse link to Ace or Treacher when Katrina van der Snorkel changes jobs?
Who has the time or energy or inclination to read magazines these days? Lowry may have decided to take the increasingly more important job.
OK, I'll be fair to TBogg. If all he's complaining about is using "honcho" as a verb, he is guilty only of ignorance or, perhaps, first degree prescriptivism. In English, we can verb almost any dang noun we want, the only test being whether we are understood, which test Ms. Lopez flying colored.
At the risk of entering this conversation so very late, I just want to point out that K-Lo isn't leaving The Corner, she's merely giving up the daily editorial control over NRO. She wrote:
"I’m not going too far. I’ll still be contributing to NRO with ideas and content, and if you are an author or reader you might not notice much of a change...I'll still be traffic-copping the Corner."
So if you like her, you aren't going to lose her, and if you don't like her, she isn't going away.
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