April 1, 2021

Facebook bans "content posted in the voice of Donald Trump."

BBC News reports. 

Lara Trump, a new Fox News contributor, posted a video of herself interviewing Mr Trump on a range of issues. She later posted a screenshot of an email she received from Facebook warning her of the ban. "In line with the block we placed on Donald Trump's Facebook and Instagram accounts, further content posted in the voice of Donald Trump will be removed and result in additional limitations on the account," an email from "Katelyn" read.

It's possible that Facebook only means to block Trump from directly using another person to bypass the ban, but the phrasing — "content posted in the voice of Donald Trump" — seems to rope in everyone who writes about Trump in a way that passes along his words and ideas. What is "the voice of Donald Trump"? 

If I put up a video of Trump talking, am I posting "in the voice of Donald Trump"? Notice the threat of "additional limitations" on one's account. It's not just Lara Trump who is threatened. It's anyone who's pro-Trump and even anyone who wants to write about what Trump is saying. 

Is it Facebook's agenda to stop Trump family and associates from passing along his video or is it to create an enclave in which Trump does not exist — to render Trump a nonperson?

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J. Farmer said...

@Browndog:

No lies detected.

I didn't say he lied, I said he didn't understand. US manufacturing did not go to China because we got "ripped off" by them or because they "cheated" us. US manufacturing also went to Mexico and Vietnam and Bangladesh and Thailand. And for the same reason, lower costs, lax labor and environmental standards, large impoverished populations willing to endure employer abuse and exploitation, etc. NAFTA was supported by Reagan, negotiated by Bush, and signed by Clinton. When George W. Bush became president, we had three "free" trade agreements. When he left we had 16. Pat Buchanan primaried H.W. Bush over globalization, advocating "America First" in 1992. A third-party candidate named Ross Perot ran on the issue, too. There were plenty of warnings about the "new world order" that went unheeded.

Blaming the economic dislocations and disruptions of globalization and the last 40 years on Chinese malfeasance is ridiculous scapegoating. Never mind that huge neoliberal agenda pursued in the interest of trade liberalization or the use of "structural readjustment" via the World Bank and IMF to liberalize foreign markets. It was nefarious scheming by the Chinese.

In your effort to bolster your narrow interpretation you reminded everyone that Trump stood up for America, even if he doesn't stand up to cynical wordsmiths.

Standing up for America should include identifying the correct enemy: American elites, not machinations from the Orient. If all the US manufacturing in China moved to India tomorrow, how would that solve the problem of deindustrialization? The signature achievement of the Phase One deal was China's commitment to purchase a ridiculously arbitrary, mercantilist figure ($200 billion) of American-made goods and services. That's the exact opposite direction we wanted to move in. The biggest thing Trump did to the elite in America was cut their taxes.

Vance said...

I view things as if we are living in 1935-36 era Germany. Hitler was in charge, but Germany hadn't been fully Nazified yet.

Actually: Hitler had a decrepit, tottering senile old "respected figure" that he took over from, in the form of General Hindenburg I believe it was.

Strange, we have Kamala Harris taking over from a decrepit, tottering senile old allegedly "respective figure." Odd "coincidence" that.

RMc said...

I've been online since 1989 when I got my father's hand-me-down Tandy 1000 from RadioShack.

Ha! You're a johnny-come-lately! I was a teenage geek running my own BBS back in the mid-80s! (Ah, the thrill of 300 baud...!)

Narayanan said...

Vendetta by any means necessary is still vendetta -
ORIGIN
mid 19th century: from Italian, from Latin vindicta ‘vengeance’.

Professora asks questions for rhetorical effect
for empirical results = real life consequences why not post / link to anyone of the banned videos

tim in vermont said...

Drago and Inga and Chuck, oh my!

tim in vermont said...

"lower costs, lax labor and environmental standards, large impoverished populations willing to endure employer abuse and exploitation,"

They didn't "cheat us" just the workers who lost their jobs.

Big Mike said...

The other thing that shocked me yesterday is Delta putting out a statement condemning the new Georgia voting laws

Delta executives seem blissfully unaware that the modern Democrats are now the party of the ultra-rich and the very poor, plus the thoroughly gullible. The ultra-rich fly private jets and the very poor don’t fly at all. So they are making a pitch for, what, the thoroughly gullible, while simultaneously pissing off the middle class voters who support(ed) Donald Trump. Is that a good exchange? There seem to be a lot of big businessmen who aren’t really good businessmen.

walter said...

I can't wait for an airline to realize what expansive canvas a passenger plane is.
Even put some social messaging on wing tops for the lucky window seat passengers.

Darkisland said...

I know that whenever I need a good lawyer, my first thought is to find someone in a strip mall in East Boomfok Michigan who specializes in social security, business licenses and the like.

With a sideline in introductions to Nigerian princes who want to invest in my company.

Yeah, that's the ticket.

John Henry

J. Farmer said...

@RMc:

Ha! You're a johnny-come-lately! I was a teenage geek running my own BBS back in the mid-80s! (Ah, the thrill of 300 baud...!)

I was spending the time being a toddler. I can still remember, though, my father's Commodore 64, QBasic, a loud tape drive, and "floppy" disks that still came in 8in diameter. I can also remember my father being a Lotus 1-2-3 guy and only begrudgingly adopting Excel.

ccscientist said...

If you want to know how powerful the media is, consider that they are disappearing a just defeated president. This has never happened before. The Left has invaded congress dozens of times but a handful of (unarmed) doofuses get in and now the pres is banned? Wow. None of us is safe from this.

n.n said...

A "render Trump a nonperson". How Pro-Choice of them.

doctrev said...

J. Farmer said...
Blaming the economic dislocations and disruptions of globalization and the last 40 years on Chinese malfeasance is ridiculous scapegoating. Never mind that huge neoliberal agenda pursued in the interest of trade liberalization or the use of "structural readjustment" via the World Bank and IMF to liberalize foreign markets. It was nefarious scheming by the Chinese.

In your effort to bolster your narrow interpretation you reminded everyone that Trump stood up for America, even if he doesn't stand up to cynical wordsmiths.

Standing up for America should include identifying the correct enemy: The biggest thing Trump did to the elite in America was cut their taxes.

4/1/21, 2:29 PM

While blaming a small cadre of American elites for profiting the most would be accurate, it wasn't taking advantage of a sizable political constituency either. China hawks have been around since WWII, and it's no surprise Trump would focus on China politically. I used to be terribly specific and didactic about policy as well. Without tapping into significant cultural trends, you can't honestly say you understand where things are going, much less have any idea how to channel those trends yourself.

You can also drop the canard about Trump being a source of major convenience to the elite: the fact they had foisted the most pathetic figure among all Democrats on the American people through overt fraud shows exactly how terrified the elites were. If Trump was in any way tolerable, they would have at least kept things at Bush v. Gore intensity. As it is, American elites are censoring Trump at a level that they would demand sanctions for if Putin imposed it on Navalny. Except it's not going to work, because Donald Trump has by far the most fanatically loyal base of any 20th century Republican President, including Reagan. They'll go where the message is. Not flock back to Ben Shapiro, Kristi Noem, or whatever flavor of the weak Conservative Inc. foists on us today.

Sam L. said...

Ahhhhh. Just ONE MORE reason for me to stay away from Facebook and Twitter. Not that I need one.

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