May 11, 2018
"State Sen. Leah Vukmir, R-Brookfield, issued a press release Wednesday with an image of Baldwin alongside Khalid Sheikh Muhammed... labeled Team Terrorists.'"
"The image includes photos of Vukmir and [Gina] Haspel with the label 'Team America," the Wisconsin State Journal reports. Baldwin is up for re-election this fall, and Vukmir is one of the GOP candidates. The primary isn't until August. According to the news article, Baldwin has not met with Haspel or taken a position on her confirmation.
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«Oldest ‹Older 201 – 295 of 295I won’t deny the ‘86 amnesty was a raw deal. It took 30 years for it to come home to roost.
Which side always wants amnesty?
Doesn’t want to build a wall or have a mechanism for legal immigration? Or follow laws in place?
Your side, Inga.
But you can’t connect the carnage dots.
Drago brings up a great point.
Most Conservatives wish the Democrats treated us like they treat people who put women and children into cages and burn them alive.
The Democrats call them "heroic" and praise them. They arrange to try to let masterminds of terrorist attacks against the US testify in Congress against Trump officials. They send pallets and pallets of cash to people who chant "Death to America" as they unload the funds.
To a Democrat, a mass murdering Muslim (or really any mass murderer) is far, far more important and valuable than say your average everyday Mormon working a job and supporting his wife and 2 kids. That Mormon or Catholic is the sworn enemy of the Democrats!
“Inga quotes a Moby to make her point.”
I too used to think Langford Peel was a Moby, reminded me of Alex, but no I think he’s the real deal. He said he was a white nationalist loud and proud a while back. He denigrated Jews, Blacks, Mexicans, Gay folks and Muslims with white power zeal and you people here just stood by and not one of you conservatives pushed back, so that makes me think you approve of his ideology and his rhetoric. His sort have taken you Trumpists over, by inches, by feet, now by yards and miles, under your noses and in some cases with full knowledge and approval.
Inga thinks she has moral authority.
Funny.
Vance, Achilles, Langford Peel, their voices ring louder on these pages these past few months. You folks are getting used to the naked hatred and bigotry being served up on these comments sections.
Oh I forgot to include Drago, how could I forget you Drago?
Have you actually read anything from college campuses lately, Inga?
Clueless as usual.
Because Mobys always tell the truth.
By definition.
Robert Cook said...
It's all just self-serving bullshit. Anyone who commits or supports torture against any person is no better than the worst of them.
Says the socialist. The feeling is mutual.
The left tried to turn our government into a police state and impose utopia. It failed. Now it is time for the reckoning.
Socialism needs to be remembered for the millions of people it has killed and it's support eliminated. Everywhere it is suggested it needs to be defeated before it kills more people.
The worst thing we as a country can do to humanity is lose to the socialists.
"Yes, we behave emotionally. Which is why the law is important. The law is intended to contain our behavior, to restrict or prohibit emotion-driven behavior that can harm innocent people, or inflict disproportionate punishment even on guilty people."
This is in various ways off.
Law is important as a social lubricant, a non-violent, predictable outlet for conflicts among peoples who share culture sufficiently to be in the same state of mind about the law (or custom) that applies. Laws and customs cannot apply (as an ethical proposition) among peoples who disagree about the law. The more powerful can force their will on the weaker through coercion, invoking the law as a justification, but the weaker are not obligated, other than prudentially, to observe it. They are free, in their conception of ethics, to ignore or circumvent the law if they can get away with it.
This is an observation you will develop if you have lived in truly multicultural societies.
And of course, Silent enim leges inter arma.
When you are dealing with warfare, the concept of law is at best an exercise in prudential policy, to maintain order and discipline among your own men, as propaganda among neutrals (and a hypocritical one as these things always are), or as a propagandistic justification for whatever one feels compelled to inflict on the enemy.
Anything goes. How you paper it over is irrelevant. There are all sorts of ways to attempt to settle these things in your mind, afterwards. But in the end it is futile.
Bobber Fleck said it best:
It’s tough being a conservative white male. You get up in the morning knowing there are blacks to oppress, women to demean, an entire ecological environment to pollute, unions to squash, children to endanger, identify groups to offend, tax loopholes to exploit, and countless acts of hatred to commit.
With all the work to be done at least your day goes quickly.
Inga has decided that all the republicans the left have been calling nazi's for 50 years are suddenly surprised by her most recent calling of republicans nazi's.
So very edgy and current.
Here's a funny link from Truman in 1948:
"Then, Pietrusza writes, “Having smeared the GOP as Reds by day, by night he proceeded to condemn its leadership as Nazi and fascist” and effectively called Dewey a front man for Hitlerites, raw talk three years after the end of World War II."
https://www.rollcall.com/news/Give-Em-Hell-Barry-Harry-Truman-1948-Campaign-211374-1.html
Inga thinks all of this leftist posturing is something new.
LOL
Seeing Red
Your comments don’t speak louder by all the spaces inbetween your sentences.
Now do they?
How annoying
And Althouse doesn’t like it either.
Inga said...
Vance, Achilles, Langford Peel, their voices ring louder on these pages these past few months. You folks are getting used to the naked hatred and bigotry being served up on these comments sections.
There is no bigotry or hatred on our side. We actually want black and hispanic people to succeed and be happy.
That means they need to adopt the cultural practices that will lead to success. Strong families. Good educations. Hard work. My two mixed race children will be fine.
You on the other hand want them to be miserable and poor. You want them to grow up without fathers. You want them to live on welfare. You want them to go to shitty inner city schools.
Democrats have always been the plantation owners. Nothing has changed. More black people are starting to wake up and notice there are benefits to "acting white." More and more that will mean voting for republicans.
Many of them are starting to realize how terrible you people are.
BTW, Israeli leadership will be naming a Train Station near the Wailing Wall after Trump. Israeli leadership has already named a square near the new US embassy after Trump.
There is is even talk of naming the new Jerusalem embassy row after Trump.
(any leftist): Just like Hitler!!
Nobody here encourages Langford Peel because we ALL think he is a Moby. Trumpit, too, for that matter. The one time we collectively do not fees the troll and Royal ass Inga wants to condemn us as complicit with the Moby.
Heads, Royal ass Inga wins.
Tails, everybody else loses.
WOPR: "Strange game. The only way to win is not to play. How about a nice game of chess."
“There is no bigotry or hatred on our side.”
“Look nobody wants to enslave blacks. They are too lazy and shiftless. That is what Mexicans are for.
We just want the blacks to shut up and go away. Or learn to act white. Otherwise they should have their own things. Because they are the reason we can't have nice things.”
This is what is driving Inga and Chuck's anger:
Bruce Mehlman
@bpmehlman
ENTHUSIASM GAP: GONE?! (CBS, May 2018)
9:00 AM - May 10, 2018
At least, that is what is driving it today. Well, that and the fact that the jet carrying the NK prisoners home didn't crash.
“Nobody here encourages Langford Peel because we ALL think he is a Moby. Trumpit, too, for that matter. The one time we collectively do not fees the troll and Royal ass Inga wants to condemn us as complicit with the Moby.”
So Langford Peel, what say you? All these fine people think you’re such an outrageous bigot that you could only be a Moby. Such people who openly speak out their ideology the way you do couldn’t be for real, eh? Are you for real Langford?
Hmmm, is Achilles a Moby? He says as many equally outrageously nutty things as Langford Peel.
How about Vance? He must too be a Moby. Yes certainly Vance.
Royal ass Inga,
I do believe Chuck's expressed racism was real. So there is one racist you can excoriate.
Criticize away.
Further, I think I speak for most conservatives when I acknowledge the racism directed at Kanye West, Thomas Sowell, Candace Parker, Walter Williams, Ben Carson, Clarence Thomas, and many other blacks is real.
Royal ass Inga is welcomed to criticize the racism from the Left.
Inga said...
Hmmm, is Achilles a Moby? He says as many equally outrageously nutty things as Langford Peel.
You are just mad because I am a decent human being and you are not.
You leftists tried to turn our country into a police state. You failed.
Now it is time for the democrat party to pay the price.
Notice the casual way in which Royal ass Inga equates a Moby with Vance and Achilles.
Fen's Law.
“I do believe Chuck's expressed racism was real. So there is one racist you can excoriate.
Criticize away.”
Burpil,
Interesting how you’re trying to take the focus off of Vance, Achilles and Langford Peel by bringing Chuck into it. I noticed. Burpil says “Don’t pay attention to those three, just keep hammering away at Chuck”. The noise will be so loud you won’t need to hear what your crazies have to say.
You hooo Langford Peel! These people are calling you a Moby!!!
Inga: "Interesting how you’re trying to take the focus off of Vance, Achilles and Langford Peel by bringing Chuck into it"
The discussion involves supposed racism.
LLR Chuck's was racism on stilts.
You refuse to criticize Chuck for that comment.
Just as you refuse to criticize any leftist for any comment.
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm. Reasonable inferences may be drawn.
Birkel said...
Further, I think I speak for most conservatives when I acknowledge the racism directed at Kanye West, Thomas Sowell, Candace Parker, Walter Williams, Ben Carson, Clarence Thomas, and many other blacks is real.
Royal ass Inga is welcomed to criticize the racism from the Left.
Inga will never acknowledge her inherent and deep seated racism.
She doesn't think Black people are smart enough to get a photo ID for example. Or get into college without her help.
Inga: "You hooo Langford Peel! These people are calling you a Moby!!"
What do you expect him/her to say? That he/she is not?
How would you know?
It's as "unprovable" as someone purporting to be a lifelong republican.
LOL
“It's as "unprovable" as someone purporting to be a lifelong republican.”
Birkel said...
“Nobody here encourages Langford Peel because we ALL think he is a Moby.”
LOL. Birkel is quite sure, he even says you ALL think he’s a Moby. How could he know he’s a Moby? How could he know you ALL think so?
The general point is that in war you are compelled to sin. There is no path to victory in any war without complete moral compromise. It is neurotic (or ordinary political hypocrisy) to berate someone over some deed against an enemy or some neutral, or even ones own people. In the next war, and the next, and the next, similar or worse things will have to be done.
We can go to cases of past American wars and what events in these count as atrocities and which don't. The "waterboarding" episodes are trivial even in the context of recent wars, or most likely ongoing events. Torture of persons of the sort that were tortured is irrelevant in comparison to the American participation in, say, the killing or maiming of innocents in the course of military operations, such carelessness deliberately condoned under the category of military necessity.
And I have cases, and cases, and cases.
Why this weird, tunnel-vision obsession on waterboarding? The same reason why there has been a similarly absurd obsession about the Japanese internment of WWII. The US has done enormously worse as a matter of military necessity in their respective wars. Its simply political opportunity, hypocritical political messaging in both cases.
Hey Langford Peel, don’t be a coward. There’s no need to go into hiding now that you’ve lost the support of the good folks of Althouse. Be a man who isn’t ashamed of his beliefs. Be like Captain America, aka Achilles. Strut your stuff Langford Peel!
Say what, Inga? You are the one who foams at the mouth trying to praise violence against people you disagree with. Remember? You claimed it would be torture for you to denounce leftist violence. And you call me crazy? You call me a hater, a bigot?
When you yourself seethe with violence and hatred spewing forth against everything America stands for?
By the way, Inga: In your haste to cast aspersions on all of us for not attacking Langford Peel, I do hope you can recall the last time you chastised Shiloh or TTR for their vulgar hate spewed rants and personal attacks. Oh, you can't remember either? Oh, that's right: you openly endorse and praise TTR for his violent crass rude remarks. So you are demonstrating your 100% hypocrisy, again. That appears to be your default state: being a total hypocrite.
And as far as I can tell, Langford says nothing about black people, only their culture or its results, as aided and abided by you and your fellow leftists. And that is terrible. Black people as you want them to be are in fact lower. Black people who shake off the chains of the left are just as good if not better than anyone else. There's not an ounce of racism in that.
Except of course the Racist left, who demands to be plantation owners.
Blogger buwaya said...
"The general point is that in war you are compelled to sin."
There are no rules in war. There is no morality. There is no justice. There is only winning and losing. In the end you will do whatever you need to do to survive.
“Look nobody wants to enslave blacks. They are too lazy and shiftless. That is what Mexicans are for.
We just want the blacks to shut up and go away. Or learn to act white. Otherwise they should have their own things. Because they are the reason we can't have nice things.”
Obviously a joke, duh!
"Because there is nothing more important to Cook than hindering those that fight for freedom."
The CIA is not and has never fought for our freedom. People who torture are not fighting for our freedom. To the contrary, the CIA is a pernicious agency that should be abolished.
"So, Robert, you are willing to trade 10,000+ innocent lives rather than subjecting a terrorist to EIT?"
Why use the euphemism "EIT" in positing your fantastic hypothetical? Be honest, call it what it is: torture. If it would save 10,000 lives, why use evasive nomenclature?
If Inga was a decent human being I would feel sorry for her embarrassing herself like this.
But she is not.
Your coup has failed.
You are going to get wiped out in the midterms.
The only thing you have left is assassination and violence.
Which you have all been calling for and practicing and supporting for years.
Who do you all think the spy the DOJ/FBI put in the Trump team was? Think he will go to jail for life for treason on his own?
I don't. I bet he turns on the people who hired him.
Someone will turn on Jarett and Obama.
Over a dozen democrats have been demoted/fired/resigned already. This will get nasty.
"Who do you all think the spy the DOJ/FBI put in the Trump team was? Think he will go to jail for life for treason on his own? "
Glad you asked:
There are about two dozen check-references to identify who the ‘source’ was in providing the underlying intelligence to CIA Director John Brennan; who then wrote the “EC” for the FBI; which started the 2016 Counterintelligence Operation.
Stefan Halper checks off every single box: √Currently overseas. √Current/Former CIA operative. √Current/Former source for FBI. √Anti-Trump motive. √Formerly put together this exact type of operation. √Connections to UK spies/intel community/politicians. √Connection to Australian spies/intel community. √Connection to Alexander Downer. √Political operative. √Wanted Clinton to win 2016 election. √Connects to Carter Page. √Connects to George Papadopoulos. √Connects to John Brennan. ETC
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/05/11/the-insurance-policy-the-ec-the-2016-fbi-counterintel-operation-and-the-mysterious-informant-who-originated-brennans-ec/#more-149124
Inga you ignorant cunt. I don't care if people call me a moby because I know I am not. Those of us in the alt right don't need your approval. We reject the so called conservatives just as we reject the communist left. Some of them foolishly think that paying lip service to diversity will win them brownie points.
I don't expect them to sign on to what I have to say even though they know in their heart I am right. Everyone that lives in a gated community or sends their kids to private school knows I am right. Everyone that crosses the street or will not go into an ATM if there are youtes there on their way to school knows I am right. Everyone that avoids the Wisconsin State fair or the whole city of Milwaukee knows that I am right.
They just don't have the balls to say it.
They just have to wait until they are retired and don't give a shit anymore like me. Many of my neighbors in Green Bay feel exactly as I do but can't say anthing because they have to protect their jobs.
I have nothing to prove to anyone. The animals in their criminality prove me right every day. So fuck off and dream up some new posts about your imaginary children. I bet one of them was a POW with John McCain in Vietnam. But thanks for playing you senile old cunt rag.
Captain America, aka Achilles sees himself as your leader, your moral compass. He has absolutely no idea how pathological he has become. I feel sorry for his wife and children. Any of you who take him seriously need to have your heads examined too. If Trumpism has given you folks permission to embrace his political philosophy (nuttery and extremism), then this country is in deep trouble. You folks need to decide if Trump is important enough to burn down this country over. That is what Achilles promises. Scorched earth. Wake up people, pay attention.
Full Moon that is what you call joking on the square.
You get it.
Thank you Langford Peel, for coming when I call you, like a little sick puppy.
Achilles is just telling you the truth. He is just guilty of sugar coating it for dimwits like Inga.
He is trying to warn you. You should listen to him.
I do hope you can recall the last time you chastised Shiloh or TTR for their vulgar hate spewed rants and personal attacks.
Why should she? She joins in. I mean, she claims to be a nice person while calling others racist, little Nazi bitches.
The best thing about Inga being a snarling, miserable person?
She deserves it.
I was busy Inga. Unlike you I have a life.
Now shouldn't you be killing McMasters father or something like the rest of your fellow nurses aides.
"The general point is that in war you are compelled to sin."
Which is why war is the greatest crime imaginable, and should never be entered into for any reason except to defend one's nation against an existential threat.
The only war the U.S. has entered in over a century that could even arguably approach that standard of necessity is World War II. (Some argue even that didn't reach the necessary level of necessity.)
Certainly, none of the many wars we've entered or started since then have been in the least necessary, and so they have all been ghastly crimes.
General Smedley Butler told the truth of the matter years ago:
"I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism. I helped make Mexico and especially Tampico safe for American oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenues in. I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefit of Wall Street. I helped purify Nicaragua for the International Banking House of Brown Brothers in 1902-1912. I brought light to the Dominican Republic for the American sugar interests in 1916. I helped make Honduras right for the American fruit companies in 1903. In China in 1927 I helped see to it that Standard Oil went on its way unmolested. Looking back on it, I might have given Al Capone a few hints. The best he could do was to operate his racket in three districts. I operated on three continents."
Obviously, Inga needs to get laid.
Jeffrey Ross: Not even with Bea Arthur's dick.
“I don't expect them to sign on to what I have to say even though they know in their heart I am right.”
If they know in their hearts that you are right, then they should have the balls to say so instead of dismissing you as a Moby. They don’t want to be associated with you. I think they chose. That actually gives me hope. That and the poll results.
"Which is why war is the greatest crime imaginable, and should never be entered into for any reason except to defend one's nation against an existential threat."
This is a reasonable point of view, though when push comes to shove, usually quite unpopular.
But even given that, the whole waterboarding thing is trivial. There are thousands, at least, of innocents dead and maimed since that waterboarding was done, in which the US has taken some part, direct or indirect, under direction of its executive authority.
The obsession about waterboarding is absurd.
“The number of hate groups also dwindled in 2013. But Mark Potok, a spokesman for the Southern Poverty Law Center, said the numbers don't tell the whole story. Increasingly, extremists are migrating to online networks. One neo-Nazi forum, Stormfront, has about 300,000 registered users —an increase of nearly 60 percent over the past five years.
"It appears that extremists are leaving organized groups for the anonymity of the Internet, which allows their message to reach a huge audience," Potok said.
Crimes motivated by hate range widely in severity, but the vast majority are racially inspired. Most are committed by so-called "lone wolves," white supremacists who are not affiliated with a larger organization but instead operate either independently or with one or two associates, FBI statistics show.
March 2013, Green Bay: A convenience store owned by a Sikh-American was set afire on the seven-month anniversary of a deadly shooting at a Sikh temple in Oak Creek. James Parrish, 53, was found not guilty by reason of mental disease or defect of arson as a hate crime.“
Wisconsin hate groups
A wise commenter once pointed out: Inga's people came from Austria. So did Hitler. Coincidence? Austria, birthplace of Nazism...
One neo-Nazi forum, Stormfront, has about 300,000 registered users —an increase of nearly 60 percent over the past five years.
Thanks to Obama's devisive,hateful rhetoric
Most members in, or from Austria.
“A wise commenter once pointed out: Inga's people came from Austria. So did Hitler. Coincidence? Austria, birthplace of Nazism...”
Wrong. My “people” never stepped foot in Austria until 1945. My people were from Eastern Europe, Hungary and Croatia. Try not to be a complete moron.
Inga said...
He denigrated Jews, Blacks, Mexicans, Gay folks and Muslims with white power zeal and you people here just stood by and not one of you conservatives pushed back, so that makes me think you approve of his ideology and his rhetoric.
This is an admission Inga supports everything she hasn't previously criticized. So she believes Republicans literally want to return blacks to slavery, and that all criticism of Obama and Dem policies is racist.
Come to think of it those are less extreme than ideas she has explicitly supported so I don't find it that surprising.
The Southern Poverty Law Center? Inga, you may as well put forth a Pravda article from 1976 and say it represents the complete truth about the United States. In fact, I suspect that is exactly what you would do.
More to the point, Inga's view of diversity is literally skin deep. Black, white, asian, gay, straight.... all are welcome--as long as they think all the same.
There's no room for diversity of opinion in the world of Inga. No freedom of speech, no rights. Who needs them when everyone thinks exactly alike?
Let any of the "protected classes" violate that strict rigidity in thought and they become unpeople--not human at all. Just like Conservatives and Republicans who don't praise the left... Inga's people would gun them down by the millions without remorse or even a sense of wrongness. It's a good thing. Just ask any other leftist regime throughout history whether killing the "Deplorables" is a bad thing.
You can bet that if Hillary had won and right now Achilles, myself, or any other Althouse commentator was being thrown in the camps: Inga would either be cheering, helping, or at best ignoring. Same with TTR, same with Chuck, etc. Because she and they truly don't care if a few million people must die to make sure "diversity in skin, but never in thought" comes to pass.
Crimes motivated by hate range widely in severity, but the vast majority are racially inspired. Most are committed by so-called "lone wolves," white supremacists who are not affiliated with a larger organization but instead operate either independently or with one or two associates, FBI statistics show.
LOL!
By lawful definition, only white people can commit hate crimes. Obviously, any race inspired hate crime gonna be a white guy. DUH!
Wrong. My “people” never stepped foot in Austria until 1945. My people were from Eastern Europe, Hungary and Croatia. Try not to be a complete moron.
Sure. Took a few years to make the round-about journey. Noticed no denial of being a Nazi.
“You can bet that if Hillary had won and right now Achilles, myself, or any other Althouse commentator was being thrown in the camps: Inga would either be cheering, helping, or at best ignoring. Same with TTR, same with Chuck, etc. Because she and they truly don't care if a few million people must die to make sure "diversity in skin, but never in thought" comes to pass.”
Such nuttery. What else does that dust devil whirling in your mind dream up? Nevermind, I don’t want to know.
Althouse readers and commenters, I surely hope this isn’t the type of people you identify with. I have hope that they only represent about 33% of conservatives.
Inga said...
Captain America, aka Achilles sees himself as your leader, your moral compass. He has absolutely no idea how pathological he has become. I feel sorry for his wife and children.
No you don't. You would call my wife a race traitor and not a real woman. She is a naturalized immigrant and she voted for Trump and she is a Christian. You have made your hatred for her quite clear.
Any of you who take him seriously need to have your heads examined too.
A stalinist calling political opponents insane. Not ironic.
If Trumpism has given you folks permission to embrace his political philosophy (nuttery and extremism), then this country is in deep trouble. You folks need to decide if Trump is important enough to burn down this country over. That is what Achilles promises. Scorched earth. Wake up people, pay attention.
Trump is indeed important enough to burn the country down over. He is the duly elected President of this country and was voted for by millions of people.
You wish to disenfranchise us. You wish to take our freedom. We know what comes after that.
The country isn't in deep trouble. You treasonous shit heads are in trouble. You will be removed quietly and lawfully if you submit to the rule of law. Or the other way.
Anyone who wants to support team Obama can go down with him.
If I trust anybody, it is the shakedown artists from SPLC. Those jokers stay bought.
Remember when Joe Biden told a black church audience Mitt Romney and the republicans wanted to put blacks back into chains?
Number of lefties saying that went too far: zero
It bears repeating: a republican President and his supporters are being called nazis by lunatic lefties and their LLR allies at precisely the moment Israel is honoring that President by naming train stations and public squares after that republican President.
langford peel said...
Inga you ignorant cunt. I don't care if people call me a moby because I know I am not. Those of us in the alt right don't need your approval. We reject the so called conservatives just as we reject the communist left. Some of them foolishly think that paying lip service to diversity will win them brownie points.
The problem isn't racial. It is cultural.
The left pushes the culture of the plantation ghetto. The rich and the poor. They tell the poor people they can do whatever they want without consequences and give them treats. Their goal is to keep as many people poor as possible. To the extent that some people buy in to the plantation lifestyle it is an individual choice.
I think you are sincere and want the best for everyone deep down. I wish you would put your statements in individual terms. The goal is to bring the leftist plantation down and that means freeing their slaves. Again.
Part of that is treating them as individuals who make individual choices and not as a race. Don't allow them to label American Culture "white culture."
Freedom and prosperity don't just belong to white people. They belong to anyone who works and fights for it against the people like Inga.
Inga's rabid leftism is simply an overcompensation to cover her families history of working in the camps. Of course she is sentimental so she became a nurses aide to honor her Grandmothers service as a scrub nurse for Dr. Mengele. Every patient she killed was a homage to her family history.
Vance said...
You can bet that if Hillary had won and right now Achilles, myself, or any other Althouse commentator was being thrown in the camps: Inga would either be cheering, helping, or at best ignoring. Same with TTR, same with Chuck, etc. Because she and they truly don't care if a few million people must die to make sure "diversity in skin, but never in thought" comes to pass.
Oh no. I wouldn't have been. Things would have been different.
I cannot express how grateful I am that Hillary, the traitorous corrupt inhuman soulless bitch, is not and will never be president.
Things should not have happened this way. Buwaya should have been right. As it is I think this is going to end gloriously peacefully with the traitors quietly sent to jail.
I am not sure how we managed to be so lucky.
Inga's rabid leftism is simply an overcompensation to cover her families history of working in the camps. Of course she is sentimental so she became a nurses aide to honor her Grandmothers service as a scrub nurse for Dr. Mengele. Every patient she killed was a homage to her family history.
Would like to think otherwise, but until Inga provides evidence to the contrary, must accept as fact.
Race is culture my friend.
If you embrace black culture you embrace crime, drug abuse, fatherless families, rap music and a contempt for education that makes you "act white." It was not always so. Back in the day the Black Church and community was homogeneous and stood against all of those things. Of course they had their own churches, schools and colleges where achievement was celebrated. There are some vestiges of this culture still around but integration killed. Some black intellectuals realize that and are calling for separation. Wisely.
The more that the white working class adopts black cultural norms the more they are lost in despair. It is a trap to keep them quiet fostered by the Media and Hollywood.
The people yearn for something different. Rap and black culture is at the root of the destruction of our culture.
Look at how they are working to destroy institutions like the NFL.
Race is culture. They are indivisible. Sad but true.
It is ok to be white and to be proud of it.
If you want to be successful act white.
you people here just stood by and not one of you conservatives pushed back,
Dear Inga,
This is not true.
I don't know what you think of me, but I have defined myself as a conservative for some time - indeed I may now be a reactionary as conservatism has so stupendously failed - and I definitely, on at least one occasion, asked langford peel to explain/clarify/justify some set of what I found to be outrageous remarks.
I accused him of being a moby, taking the piss, or otherwise not being for real. He said, no, he is, and if you can't hack, that's OK too.
Of course, Chuck still insists that he really is a Republican election lawyer from Michigan. So how to decide what to believe? As for langford, I certainly balk at his tone, but in a crude and garish way he points to real issues sometimes.
As for your later question:
You folks need to decide if Trump is important enough to burn down this country over. That is what Achilles promises. Scorched earth.
Yes, absolutely, 100%, my life for President Donald J Trump, the very last hope for Western Civilization in our time. The election of Hillary Clinton would have been the death of the Republic. PDJT, though brash, is doing almost everything I could hope for to restore this nation to its former greatness, which your beliefs, and those who espouse them, have done so much to erode.
Does that answer your question? And what is your reaction? You can dismiss others as off the charts maniacs. But we have exchanged recipes and flirted. So I hope that you will view me, with such patina of civilization and culture as I present, as a, relatively, reasonable man.
In other words, no, we're not going to sell out the President. So you should factor that into your decision-making.
What you should really do is what we did, grit your teeth and ride it out. If he's such a no-good, he'll lose reelection, surely, wouldn't you think?
"...the whole waterboarding thing is trivial. There are thousands, at least, of innocents dead and maimed since that waterboarding was done, in which the US has taken some part, direct or indirect, under direction of its executive authority.
"The obsession about waterboarding is absurd."
First, our torture techniques have not been limited to waterboarding, by any means, and our torture victims have not been limited to the two or three people the Bush Administration admitted to; second, while torture is less grievous than killing or causing the deaths of thousands of innocents, concern over torture is far from a trivial concern: it speaks to our nature as a people. We have always been a brutal, murderous nation, so it is all the more important to maintain legal and moral barriers to certain behavior. I know we're losing the battle, and we are becoming a more savage, bloodthirsty nation, and we, along with many others, will pay for this in the end.
langford peel said...
Race is culture my friend.
But we are not slaves to our circumstances.
If you embrace black culture you embrace crime, drug abuse, fatherless families, rap music and a contempt for education that makes you "act white." It was not always so. Back in the day the Black Church and community was homogeneous and stood against all of those things. Of course they had their own churches, schools and colleges where achievement was celebrated. There are some vestiges of this culture still around but integration killed. Some black intellectuals realize that and are calling for separation. Wisely.
This is my point. Black people didn't come up with fatherless families or shitty schools. White progressives did. The white liberals started welfare programs and infesting public schools right around the time Jim Crow was repealed.
The great society and the CRA were started/passed concurrently. As soon as republicans forced democrats to give up Jim Crow they started working to destroy the black family and "integrate" the schools.
The more that the white working class adopts black cultural norms the more they are lost in despair. It is a trap to keep them quiet fostered by the Media and Hollywood.
The people yearn for something different. Rap and black culture is at the root of the destruction of our culture.
Again. When white people or black people make bad choices they get bad consequences. When they make good choices they prosper.
The problem is not Black people. The problem is the progressive institutions and the people regardless of race who move onto the progressive plantation.
"We have always been a brutal, murderous nation,"
As has every large nation anywhere ever. And the smaller ones are better, those that are, when they are, because they have less opportunity.
Your problems above all are with human nature, not the USA.
And, well, good grief. The US, in its process of making war, was never ever less savage. Most people simply aren't exposed to real history. And being savage or not has never meant that the conqueror "pays for it". There is no justice in life, certainly not for nations.
"Your problems above all are with human nature, not the USA."
Of course. All the more reason we must adhere to our constitution, to our laws and to our purported ideals. It is only by adhering to the limits we have placed on ourselves that we can avoid behaving as the savages we innately are. To shrug our shoulders that "that's what humans are" or "that's how it's always been," or to justify ourselves as "not as bad as them" (which is false), is to accept, even to embrace our worst impulses.
Too many nitwits have convinced themselves that as a people we are innately better, more splendid and noble than others, and therefore anything we do is, first, "not as bad as what they do" and second, automatically justified.
As I have said previously, it's self-serving bullshit.
And yet, Robert Cook, you support a political philosophy responsible for industrializing that murderous impulse.
So climb down off your high horse, admit that centralization of power is worse at fighting the evil you pretend to abhor, and take a strongly pro-freedom and individual rights stance.
If you espouse a collectivist ideology, I assume any complaint about violence is self-serving bull shit.
Robert Cook is a bull shitter.
#1. Politics ain't beanbag.
Simply put: if you are for undocumented persons being able to freely cross the U.S. border, you are like a guy who sleeps with women while infected without a condom.
You don't care about the probable results of your choices and are dismissive about the consequences on others.
Which is curious, because if a terrorist attacked, would it be Wendover Utah...or NYC?
The stances of 90% of Dems is open borders, though they refuse to admit this. Which means they don't give a merry fuck who actually crosses the border and with what.
They can and should be held to the consequences of their choices.
"Too many nitwits have convinced themselves that as a people we are innately better,"
Cookie, you really need to read, "Bourgeois Virtues."
You might like it. The author is a transsexual, which should appeal to you.
To put it in second grade terms for you, it's not the PEOPLE who are better, it's the culture.
And what makes it possible, like a minimum education. Speaking the language. Knowing what a flush toilet is.
Stuff like that
I know we're losing the battle, and we are becoming a more savage, bloodthirsty nation, and we, along with many others, will pay for this in the end.
What do you mean "we?" Do you have a mouse in your pocket ?
The Socialists, of which you are a member in good standing, have killed millions in search of that perfect society that exists only in your head.
Why aren't you in Venezuela helping people flee to Columbia so they can find something to eat ?
Americans have lots of native virtues, many of which are being lost, but not many of these virtues are related to behaving particularly well in wars.
Some nations are known for being worse, more often (Russia, Germany but only for a while there, Japan, China, etc.) and many have a similar track record (Britain, France, etc.). Behavior is episodic but it repeats more often with some of these than others, and then there is volume. So there are distinctions to be made, as in "are you better off surrendering to X or Y"?
This analysis does not assume perfection on anyone's part.
As for the bourgeois virtues, as a proportional rate, these days many other peoples are more "bourgeois".
The truly distinctive American virtues are amoral. These are initiative, self-confidence to the point of brashness, responsibility as a personal virtue, and a disdain for authority. This is a very valuable combination, but it has nothing to do with ethics. Americans would make excellent pirates, and of course the worlds leading imperial power.
Acceptable, but needed a "World Police" tie-in ...
As for the bourgeois virtues, as a proportional rate, these days many other peoples are more "bourgeois".
I'm not so sure,. The English have been an example for a hundred years and more.
I think that is gone. Go to a midlands city on a Saturday night.
France, if you can avoid the Muslims, maybe. It's been a few years a=since I was in Paris. Nice was pretty good last time I was there,
Australia seems to be adopting the PC aberration.
Where? I don't see China or India getting there,
"The best thing about Inga being a snarling, miserable person?"
The best thing is that she is morbidly obese and very old. The best thing is that she will not live very long.
Also, it cannot be said enough, that Robert Cook is a unrepentant Stalinist and I would be in favor of real torture for him, not the patty cake waterboarding that you cry about on terrorists.
Robert,
The essential American soul is hard, isolate, stoic, and a killer. It has never yet melted.
D.H. Lawrence
How come an Englishman understands us better than you do?
The truly distinctive American virtues are amoral. These are initiative, self-confidence to the point of brashness, responsibility as a personal virtue, and a disdain for authority. This is a very valuable combination, but it has nothing to do with ethics. Americans would make excellent pirates, and of course the worlds leading imperial power.
5/11/18, 9:34 PM
Buwaya, you are forgetting that the traditional religiosity of this country served to soften the harder aspects of the American character. The left is been determined to erase Christianity from American life. They're making a huge mistake.
"To put it in second grade terms for you, it's not the PEOPLE who are better, it's the culture."
For a former doctor, you often seem amazingly dumb. When I said "people," of course I meant our "culture." We are not a race, but a motley of ethnic groups. I used "people" in place of "Americans," which would have been a another way of saying "American culture."
And no, the American culture is not innately better than every other culture in the world. To the extent our cultural norms are preferable to those found in other cultures, it has to do with our rule of law, our constitutional protections and the principles underlying them, and our purported ideals. So, to cheer on (or shrug off) torture is negate exactly those aspects of our culture that are admirable.
"How come an Englishman understands us better than you do?"
Another dumb one. I understand very well that we are "hard, isolate, stoic killers." That is why I support our laws and purported ideals that condemn the type of behavior that such a people would find natural, such as torture. I have stated plainly here that we are savage and bloody. Unlike you, I don't think these characteristics are admirable or should be indulged.
"Also, it cannot be said enough, that Robert Cook is a unrepentant Stalinist and I would be in favor of real torture for him, not the patty cake waterboarding that you cry about on terrorists."
Hmmm...in one statement you're both factually wrong and amazingly candid about your own moral monstrosity. You seem to be the natural Stalinist!
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