Trump's response:
February 26, 2024
"If Donald Trump is at the top of the Republican ticket, the risk of one-party rule by a Democratic Party captured by the progressive left is severe."
Wrote Emily Seidel, the chief executive of the Koch political network (Americans for Prosperity Action).
ADDED: Trump flaunted his status as a man of the people by deploying the grocer's apostrophe.
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They’re both right. So many otherwise moderate voters are willing to put the country in the hands of people who hate their own country and will put the entire world on the road to hell, harming or killing millions, to destroy it rather than suffer mean tweets. Putting Trump at the top of the Republican ticket empowers those leftist forces most dangerous to civil society.
But Trump was a good president last time—the country was more prosperous, the world more peaceful—and there’s no reason to think he won’t be the same kind of president next time.
So is that where we’ve come to? That we will forgo the best option out of fear of the worst people? How does that not empower the worst people just as well?
When you use the grocer's apostrophe while writing in all caps, it nullifies the mistake. That's an obscure but legitimate grammatical rule.
I never knew it was called the grocer’s apostrophe, so, thanks. I hope it wasn’t really deployed on purpose, just as I deplore (heh) the deliberate mispronunciation of “Iraq” and “Iran”, and any word in French by the right; and the pretense of not knowing what end of a gun the bullets come out of on the left.
I still feel a little of the same when Althouse says, e.g., “five year anniversary” instead of “fifth anniversary”.
The Kochs have been the most important funding source for GOP for a long time. What does it say about Trump when the Kochs say that Donald is doomed to lose and bring down the rest of GOP with him?
AFP-funders include Koch and several other billionaires. The combined net worth of its funders is likely in excess of $100 billion. AFP Action is a Super PAC, so donors are able to contribute an unlimited amount. Direct contributions to the candidate are capped at $3,300 per individual for the primary.
AFP Action has almost certainly stopped funding Haley because they accurately recognize that she has no path to the nomination. She hasn't won a single state and just lost her home state in a winner-takes-all primary by 20 points.
Until now, I had never known of the term, “grocer’s apostrophe.” I guess grocers in Nebraska are better educated. But the Hy-Vee in Omaha has the sign, “15 items or less.”
Funny that the CEO of the Koch Network has TDS.
Why didn’t she spend her millions to stop the Dems from cheating? Cheating in elections is how the Dems are going to achieve one-party rule.
"I still feel a little of the same when Althouse says, e.g., “five year anniversary” instead of “fifth anniversary”."
Does the word "birthday" bother you (when it's used to refer to the anniversary of someone's birth as opposed to that one day when the baby is born)?
"I hope it wasn’t really deployed on purpose..."
Why? That would rule.
"Truth Social refused to connect" to the Video Professor Althouse attempted to link. Was it something we said?
The Koch brothers and Trump split a long time ago over Immigration. Charles Koch (his brother David passed away in 2019) continues to support Open Borders (though to my recollection he calls it something else — I need to look that up), the better to do wage-busting in American industry. The main difference between his position and the Democrats’ is that Koch favors an easy path to citizenship for people who entered the country illegally while Democrats prefer to confer the rights of citizenship, especially voting, without necessarily becoming citizens.
The Kochs (being REAL billionaires, after all) didn't get to be where they are by throwing good money after bad. They're going to transfer their spending to congressional races this cycle where it might still do them some good. They aren't suffering any delusions that the GOP can win the White House without the support of moderate and independent voters.
@Althouse, major issues like immigration are being debated and discussed, and you choose to focus on an mistaken apostrophe?
I knew it was called the “grocer’s (or greengrocer’s) apostrophe,” but is there a name for failing to use an apostrophe where one is required?
- Rafe
I’m OK with this. As much as I want Trump to win, he can get there on his own steam. He’ll be getting hundreds of millions in free publicity from the dinosaur news media that needs those clicks to avoid extinction.
It is critically important to control at least one house of Congress at all times, whether it is Biden or Trump who may be president. In the one case it is needed to derail bad legislation. In the other case it is needed to derail what would surely be constant attempts to impeach him.
The Kochs’ plans are at risk when Trump is in power. Their goal is to stifle him. If they were so concerned about a progressive left domination, they’d back Trump. He’s driving the largest movement against the progressive left, after all.
“Trump flaunted his status as a man of the people by deploying the grocer's apostrophe.”
To which Joe relied:
“What apostrophe?”
The Koch network is far less conservative than the voters in Republican primaries. No that Haley has revealed her fascist streak and the mask has dropped she has become a very poor figurehead to lead the GOPe wing, the Left wing, of the party.
The DNC (MSM cheerleading the Davos billionaire cabal) needs Trump to hold onto the rains of the Democrat party.
Lucien said...
"I still feel a little of the same when Althouse says, e.g., 'five year anniversary' instead of 'fifth anniversary'."
From George Orwell's 6 Rules in Politics and the English Language:
- If it is possible to cut a word out, always cut it out.
Trump's tweet "American's" is likely an autocorrect or suggested word that allowed him to select it before he finished typing the whole thing. I don't think Trump gives two shits about grammar or punctuation. I don't think he is overly concerned about showing off what are in essence secretarial skills.
Ann Althouse said...
"Does the word 'birthday' bother you (when it's used to refer to the anniversary of someone's birth as opposed to that one day when the baby is born)?"
My birthday was a Friday. In my younger days, I used to honor it by knocking back a couple of beers at a local pub after work on Fridays.
The actual date of my birth was more specific, of course.
Truth Social "refused to connect"?
They get their feelings hurt?
If Trump stood down, wouldn't the Democrats lawfare any other candidate until all their money is gone?
This is why Trump needs to win, not because I love him, which I don't, because he can take the pain (amazingly) and then can properly tackle the deep state. And until it is tackled any candidate will be lawfared to death.
This, post, needs, ALOT, of, spare, Oxford, commas, too. I usually save up my commas and apostrophes because it's always better to have alot of something on hand than a little.
Trump leading to one-party leftist rule? Where where you in 2017 when the entire D.C. establishment manipulated, suckered, and tied Trump down in every way they could imagine? See John McCain and Liz Cheney. Trump called them all The Swamp.
For AFP to think Haley was the answer shows how out of touch they truly are. Why did it take you so long to recognize what any person on the street knew immediately? She never had a chance.
The Kochs operate their state and congressional dark money through ALEC, which they took over around 2013. It went from a real conservative forum to a wish-list of gimmies for the wealthy, some framed to appear to help small business owners, but in their four page single-space list (four pages last I checked) there was nothing on border control except one symbolic, useless declaration, and they had to be dragged kicking and screaming to that; they went from anti- to pro-drug legalization (all drugs); they went from being hard on violent and recidivism offenders to supporting emptying the prisons and attacking police. Never trust the Kochs or a libertarian under 80. The Kochs bought ALEC, and now some of the stupidest and most incompetent ALEC mouthpieces in my state are what we get. Legislators wanting to address the issues Americans from both parties want to hear about are definitely not welcome. "We don't do social issues, just economic ones," they bawl, as if border and crime control and streets awash with fentanyl aren't economic issues.
The occasional Rand Paul is a good balance, and there are members in ALEC trying to turn it around again, but we need to stop letting ourselves be screwed by leftitarian liars.
“Does the word ‘birthday’ bother you (when it's used to refer to the anniversary of someone's birth as opposed to that one day when the baby is born)?”
Well, now it does. Thank’s.
There is a multitude of grocers, why are their apostrophes “grocer’s” not grocers’?
Blogger tim maguire said...
But Trump was a good president last time—the country was more prosperous, the world more peaceful—and there’s no reason to think he won’t be the same kind of president next time.
2/26/24, 5:11 AM
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Saying Trump was a “good President” is like saying the Atlanta Falcons had a great Super Bowl LVI.
Why did it take you so long to recognize what any person on the street knew immediately? She never had a chance.
Go search the archives. There were regular commenters here glomming on to her like she was an answer to something…
She is right.
It's already happening.
Nothing animates the hard NBC left like Trump.
Tim McGuire said:
"They’re both right. So many otherwise moderate voters are willing to put the country in the hands of people who hate their own country and will put the entire world on the road to hell, harming or killing millions, to destroy it rather than suffer mean tweets."
100%
the corrupt global cabal elite wealthy power-obsessed communist-LEFT will simply release a deadlier virus.
Rich-
Leftwing democrats have the global communist billionaires as their donors.
Blogger tolkein said...
If Trump stood down, wouldn't the Democrats lawfare any other candidate until all their money is gone?
This is why Trump needs to win, not because I love him, which I don't, because he can take the pain (amazingly) and then can properly tackle the deep state. And until it is tackled any candidate will be lawfared to death.
2/26/24, 7:03 AM
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Trump has made it perfectly clear that he is incapable of taking on the Deep State. Who in his orbit is going to lead the charge: Loomer, Bannon, the Mattress Guy, Prosobiec, Don Jr., Newsom’s sloppy seconds?
Is there a relationship between a "grocers apostrophe" and a "baker's dozen"? Both technically incorrect, but understood.
Shorter Trump: 'I don't need your money or your votes, Koch brothers. Kiss my ring or else!"'
Did Trump actually say he prefers Biden as president?
Telling.
The Koch network should do the same as "Zuckerbucks" did in Wisconsin.
Put the money toward ballot harvesting. Fight fire with fire.
I'll bet if MAGA and the GOP started ballot harvesting and mimicking the bullshit from 2020 liberals would be screaming to follow current election laws...which they don't mind ignoring when they are stuffing the box....
Trump was a good pres on some issues.
Where he failed miserably is with the suck-ups, fakes, phonies, spies and losers he surrounded himself with from the get-go. Trump was his own worst enemy.
Hillary's use of a private server white Secretary of State - used to fill Clinton Foundation coffers with Russian Uranium funds...
He dropped it.
My guess Trump and his insider frauds were threatened.
Want to drain the swamp? You crush all leftist enemies... or they crush you.
Instead Trump calls Hillary 'Lovley"
Trump flaunted his status as a man of the people by deploying the grocer's apostrophe.
He used the self-checkout.
Even though I get wearied by Trump's silly name calling, tolkien is right about Trump's amazing thick skin and how essential it is. No matter who the GOP candidate would be, the media, the dems, the administrative state would attempt to rip the person to shreds in every way possible once they were the actual nominee. Now we have seen, even the justice department is in on the game to bring Trump down. In spite of (?), because of(?) his narcissism, bluster, bravado, etc, our country needs him to be President again.
I prefer the grocer-s hyphen.
Trump was a great president last time.
If Trump makes illegal immigration his top campaign promise - and does so using logic with intelligent and realistic solutions - (please ditch the Hollywood rhetoric, Trump. so. lame.)
Deport every single illegal entrant. period.
Trump will have the greatest chance to win.
Sadly - Trump likes to repeat boring hollywood tropes and hand the democrats gifts with his dick-stepping words.
If he uses the issue of illegal immigration as the serious it is - and leaves out his trademark BS bravado - he might stand a chance.
No free refills of Koch money…
In 2020 the GOP gained over a dozen seats in the House with no GOP incumbents losing even though FJB supposedly received the most votes for President in US history. This was followed by the 2022 mid-term where the GOP regained control of the House, though narrowly. Taken together, these two elections indicate that the coalition electing Trump is likely quite different from the coalition electing GOP Congressional candidates.
The Senate might be somewhat different though the three classes are split between the parties in such a way that this cycle is a very difficult one for the Democrats.
Have no trepidations, lefties! Graspin’ Gavin is rested, tanned and oily in teh wings…
Among things becoming more obvious as time passes is the fact that an idiotic failing regime and its indefensible record is lashing out as it licks its wounds.
I worked for Mr. Koch for over twenty years. Charles is one of the kindest, smartest, generous and most misunderstood businessmen in the world. Working for him was akin to getting a very rigorous MBA in a very intense Socratic classroom. Koch gave responsibility early in one's career and rewarded well for performance. Koch remains one of the greatest companies in the world. The fundamental difference between Charles and DJT, other than personality, is that while they both love to hire American engineers and financiers, Charles would rather pay them Mumbai wages. Mr. Koch sees global markets everywhere, DJT focuses on the US.
Charles still goes to the office daily at 88, but a few years took a step back from the front lines. His son, Chase, has assumed more of a leadership role. Chase's politics (and those of his sister, Elizabeth) are left of his father's. While they both preach free markets, they are decidedly left in many other areas, and certainly prefer the establishment to either MAGA or the progressives. Emily Seidel is Chase's contemporary and, in my view, a lightweight who worked for Pence, among others on her way up. Seven months ago she was denying that AFP would support any presidential candidate. AFP just isn't the principled force it was. Seidel preaches the go-along-to-get-along message, and it's just weak sauce.
Gusty Winds: the Kochs are hardcore leftists. Don't listen to what they say: look at what they support. Open borders (to create more publicly subsidized demand for their fuel and other products). No police or prisons (because they're sociopaths and it won't affect them to impoverish and destroy us with crime and social destruction, leaving only billionaires with the power to create order). Legalize all drugs, for the same reason.
They're traitors; they're nihilists; they're psychopaths; if their dad came back to life he would arm a bunch of John Birchers to line them up before a firing squad. And their three major platform points listed here are also Soros' main goals and they work openly with him: they're globalists too.
I watched a Senator kneel down before one of them and literally do a secret handshake. Shit, I thought, then ate another two pound shrimp from the buffet.
If Donald Trump is at the top of the Republican ticket, the risk of one-party rule by a Democratic Party captured by the progressive left is severe.
So the answer is to elect someone who will do their bidding and give them cover?
"What does it say about Trump when the Kochs say that Donald is doomed to lose and bring down the rest of GOP with him?"
What does it say? It says that Rich has always been vehemently anti-Trump, and will trot out any absurdity and tout it as proof that he's right.
Think of it as being an unhinged bias so toxic and destructive, that it destroys the credibility of any idea that emerges from its host.
I think the Koch money is happy with anybody that keeps the borders open. If you say they're 'Republican', then I guess they'll get behind their party's candidate - right?
Several remarks:
• The Kochs do not throw good money after bad. Haley was an experiment and is going nowhere with respect to the Republican nomination. They are cutting their losses.
• If Trump implodes by death or conviction, the AFP/Koch interests still have a shot at a nominee more to their liking, who could be Haley or someone else, but spending now has no bearing on that possibility. The option value is low.
• The AFP/Koch platform (tax cuts for the rich, which you may or may not consider fiscal conservatism, and pro corporate regulation, which you may or may not consider deregulation) is unpopular with the majority of Americans. Hawkishness, which is not central for AFP/Koch but is for many Republicans, is also unpopular.
• Biden would have beaten Haley easily and would similarly beat most Republican candidates because the Republican/AFP/Koch platform is unpopular (see all of the normal Presidential election results since 1992, except for the “wartime” 2004 election) and because Biden has done a fairly good job distancing himself from the most Republican-lite strains of the Democratic Party.
• The exception is Trump. Although his economic performance was not all that different from Republican/AFP/Koch, his self presentation is very different and he is isolationist and not conventionally hawkish (although he might still be dangerous in terms of international conflict). Trump is the Republican with by far the best chance of defeating Biden in the fall (although I predict that Biden will best Trump if that’s the matchup—but it will be close and could go either way). Any other Republican loses badly.
So I suppose then that there is simply no hope of grocers ever getting plural possessive punctation right...
Fixed it for Ya
Blogger AMDG said...
Blah blah blah...
Saying Trump was a “good President” is like saying Kyle Shanahan had a great Super Bowl.
There is a fair chance that the Koch take is correct, although their motive, Trump hate, is suspect.
I've been checking out some lefty websites and the delusional hatred for Trump is over the top. If the Democrats openly steal the election, their base will cheer and the courts will do nothing.
The Koch brothers are anti-American globalists. They supported Haley because she would give them tax breaks, cheap labor, and Amnesty. Not to mention useless wars. invade the world, invite the world. They're rich scum who've made the Republican party worse.
Trump always knows how to insult rich assholes. The one thing rich Globalist assholes like Romney or the Koch Brothers pride themselves on is being smarter than everyone else and being "winners". So, Trump laughs at them for backing a loser and throwing their money away like idiots.
Of course, the Koch executive falls back on the standard GOPe trope "TRUMPS GONNA LOSE, WE GOTTTA SAVE THE SENATE!!" They sang that song in 2016 and 2020. I remember Romney and Sasse claiming Trump was going to "wiped out!" and take the Senate with him. And Mitch the bitch and Ryan were both calling on Trump in Oct 2016 to "Drop out and save the Senate".
GOPe and Moderate Republicans are LOSERS. And liars. One day its "Country over party" the next "We cant have purity tests, we have to be pragmatic and win". Clowns.
The only benefit I can see in Haley being the nominee is that her sure loss in November would, at least, force the Kochs of the world to finally recognize that the Republican Party's problem isn't Trump. If Trump hadn't run in 2016, we would, right now, be in year 8 of the Hillary Clinton Administration with Tim Kaine a shoo-in for bringing it to 20 straight years of Democrat control of the White House. Additionally, SCOTUS would have 6 progressives on the court with John Roberts regularly providing a 7th vote so he could write a watered-down opinion.
I have written it over and over- if you want to know the state of presidential control, your model election is the one from 2012, and even more conclusive, the trend since 2000. Mitt Romney could have won all the states he did win plus Florida, Virginia, and Ohio, and he would have still lost the electoral college. That is how bad the GOP's electoral chances have degraded since 2000. Trump appealed to a class of voters who normally pull the "lever" for Democrats in the midwest and mid-Atlantic, thus making states like Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania competitive while making Ohio and Iowa very safe. Put a non-Trump candidate, especially one favored by party bigwigs onto the ballot, and those midwest state return to the safely Democrat fold while Iowa and Ohio return to being tossups along with the Florida.
Blame Trump all you want, but the fact is that states like Georgia, North Carolina, and Arizona have been drifting slowly into the Democrat camp for 20 years. Trump or no Trump, they are the new toss-up states, and in 20 more years will be solidly Democrat, too.
What makes me a Trump supporter - that gross white left judge who just levied the bogus 350 million verdict over a non-crime.
Judge Stalin Author Engoron(D) - White left Stalinist De-Luxe.
The Koch family has the largest privately owned family business in the United States. Their father was a chemical engineer who has the infamous distinction of having provided technical assistance to both the Nazis and the Soviet Union under Stalin in the development of oil refining programs. His sons built out a large conservative network of think-tanks, university professorships, and lobbying organizations starting in the 1970s.
One of his sons challenged Reagan in 1980 as a third party presidential candidate because they thought Reagan was "too liberal". Their political influence and lobbying project was so influential that both major political parties in the 1990s started to invite people within the Koch network to help shape policy. After the 2008 and the Obama election, the Kochs started to build out Americans for Prosperity as a counter-weight to the main party committee of the Republican Party (the RNC). In 2016, the AFP had more employees than the RNC. The Koch network was hugely influential, and still has very deep ties to the Republican Party establishment. Trump's administration was filled with people from Koch backed think-tanks. The most powerful figure in the Trump administration, outside of Trump himself, was Mike Pompeo, who was a former Congressman from the district that represents Koch Industries (he served both for a short-time as CIA director and later as Secretary of State under Trump). Mike Pence, Trump's Vice President, had a close connection to the Koch network as well.
I take the AFP comment as a bit backhanded towards Trump. But they said the same thing in 2016 and Trump won.
If they really didn't want Trump they would have ignored him after 2020. They and others decided they wanted to make a political message and made him a martyr for many who strongly distrust the establishment.
Trump is like a comments troll, the people who hate him can't ignore him and keep giving him a voice and platform
Trump appealed to a class of voters who normally pull the "lever" for Democrats in the midwest and mid-Atlantic, thus making states like Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania competitive while making Ohio and Iowa very safe. Put a non-Trump candidate, especially one favored by party bigwigs onto the ballot, and those midwest state return to the safely Democrat fold while Iowa and Ohio return to being tossups along with the Florida.
Trump outperformed every GOP presidential candidate since Bush 41 in the Rust Belt. Even losing Pennsylvania, he did so by half the margin of the next nearest candidate. Like it or not, there is a path for victory in that route.
Blame Trump all you want, but the fact is that states like Georgia, North Carolina, and Arizona have been drifting slowly into the Democrat camp for 20 years. Trump or no Trump, they are the new toss-up states, and in 20 more years will be solidly Democrat, too.
Absent 9/11, White suburbanites aren't driven back to the right, and instead the Dems would likely have won Congress in '02. Bush would have been impeached over something (the left wanted revenge for Clinton and the 2000 election), and likely would have lost in '04. Instead, his win gave us a generation of consultants and GOP politicians who think that they can run every election as if it's '04- "kill terrorists and cut taxes"- and that will be enough. One of the problems for the GOP now is that it's a party still built around that idea that the key to victory is winning over squishy moderate voters who turn out for every election. The Dems, in contrast, have the infrastructure in place to turn out the vote of low-propensity voters.
"...they are the new toss-up states, and in 20 more years will be solidly Democrat, too."
It won't take that long in Arizona. There is currently only one statewide office held by a Republican. The GOP narrowly controls the legislature, but that will likely change this fall. As a bonus, we will have a new hard-left senator. Much of this is because of demographic change, but some is due to the Republicans nominating proven losers or candidates with bad political instincts for important offices. Martha McSally and Kari Lake are good examples.
"If Donald Trump is at the top of the Republican ticket, the risk of one-party rule by a Democratic Party captured by the progressive left is severe."
Late to the party, but this is true. In many jurisdictions, NeverTrumpers will come out to vote against uncouth Orange Man and sweep in lefties downticket. I guess there's some hope for the Senate but the losing loser of 2018, 2020 and 2022 is likely to repeat his achievements.
I wish it weren't so, and of course I don't think Nikki is a viable alternative. But Trump is the ideal person for Dems to run against. Only two factors moderate the risk: Biden's advancing incompetence, and the insanity at the border.
@tolkein
because he can take the pain (amazingly) and then can properly tackle the deep state
Hm, dunno about his ability to reform government. Kudos for nominating Gorsuch and Barrett. Utter contempt for appointing Andrew Card and Mark Milley.
"For AFP to think Haley was the answer shows how out of touch they truly are. Why did it take you so long to recognize what any person on the street knew immediately? She never had a chance."
Sure she had a chance. A lot of them. That chances to dump on DJT to the applause of MSM.
The liberal media has always made the Koch brothers out to be the bad guys.
Now they love Koch.
From Oxford Languages:
birth·day
/ˈbərTHˌdā/
noun
the anniversary of the day on which a person was born...
No one in their right mind would say "Today is the 72nd anniversary of my birth" in order to distinguish it from the the term 'birthday'. If the actual day you were born is the connotation that you want, you use 'date of birth' or 'birth date'.
She is right.
It's already happening.
Nothing animates the hard NBC left like Trump.
Do you actually mean "NPC left" or is the "NBC" purposeful? I was meaning to ask last time I saw you write this phrase. I don't understand the NBC reference.
"Country over party" was the mantra until we discovered Biden family loves foreign money then suddenly they all stopped saying "Country over party"
“If Trump implodes by death or conviction, the AFP/Koch interests still have a shot at a nominee more to their liking, who could be Haley or someone else, but spending now has no bearing on that possibility. The option value is low”
I expect that most of the criminal cases against Trump won’t make it to a conviction by Election Day. We have all been w watching the spectical of Fani Willis self immolating with her paramour in GA. What doesn’t appear to be common knowledge yet is that Trump filed 4 motions Fri/Sat with Judge Cannon in FL to dismiss most of the charges against him in Smith’s classified documents case. The big one is the first one, that Smith is operating illegally, and his investigation is illegally funded. The first part of it is that Smith is not a Principal Officer under the Constitution, not having been nominated and Senate confirmed. At a minimum, that means that he doesn’t have any independence from FJB and AG Garland. With almost a hundred Senate confirmed USAs, they should have picked one of them (as Hur is). That’s how it is supposed to work. Mueller and Smith were not Senate confirmed Officers, so have/had no independent power to prosecute anyone. At best, Smith is a direct employee of AG Garland, and is utilizing his power as the Senate confirmed AG to indict and try cases. Not a bit of independence there. Which is where the 2nd part of the motion comes in - the investigation is being funded off the books, outside the normal DOJ budget, utilizing a special off budget fund for Independent prosecutors. How does that work? A direct report to the AG, with the AG directly responsible for the prosecution, being paid outside the DOJ budget as an Independent Counsel/Prosecutor, with zero independence? The remainder of the motions are more technical, attacking the LawFare origin of the charges as being vague and violating Due Process, etc.
The key here, I think, is that Trump nominated Judge Cannon is being offered a choice - flush the entire case on jurisdictional grounds (Smith is not an Officer, so has no power to indict or be funded) or dig through all of the details of the Due Process, etc claims. My prediction is that she will pick Option A, then bolster it with granting the other motions. That way, it can wind its way through the somewhat sympathetic 11th Circuit, and get us, at a minimum into the summer, maybe fall. Definitely missing the spring trial date. Then with Cannon’s decision, they can file similar motions (the 1st one should be identical, with the other motions fact dependent) in the DC case, where neither the judge, nor the Circuit court are sympathetic to Trump. If that judge rules against Trump, along with the appeals court, there is now a significant Circuit split in the summer/fall of an election year, and at least one judge having determined that Smith isn’t an Independent Counsel, but instead, at best, is a direct report (employee, not Officer) to the AG. Throw in that DOJ rules don’t allow political prosecutions during an election, and hilarity ensues. Trump can call it what it is - a political prosecution during an election year.
We shall see. Comments on Discord were that Trump and his attorneys have, so far, not shown themselves capable of playing 6th dimensional chess. It could all be just his attorneys picking up crowd sourced arguments from the proletariat. Still, this should keep the (now) May/June cases going expeditiously forward as Smith so desperately wants.
"If Donald Trump is at the top of the Republican ticket, the risk of one-party rule by a Democratic Party captured by the progressive left is severe.
I think that this situation absolutely requires a really futile and stupid gesture be done on somebody's part! And we're just the guys to do it."
- A'sFP
Martha McSally and Kari Lake are good examples
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Whats funny is that McSally was an establishment pick who Doucey tried to slip in after she lost a senate race. Crap like that is why the base is willing to pick candidates like Lake as a swipe at the establishment leadership.
"Trump flaunted his status as a man of the people by deploying the grocer's apostrophe."
Top quality snark. Well done.
while at the baker I order the grocer's apostrophe by baker's dozen
"Trump implodes by death or conviction", is a weird way of putting it. You mean if Biden finally succeeds in putting Trump in jail over bogus charges or if Trump dies...
The lack of Republican and Independent OUTRAGE over Biden trying to convict Trump and put him in jail over bogus charges so Biden can get re-elected is the most crazy thing about 2024. It just shows the Republicans are the LOSER party and just want to be the Washington Generals to the Democrats Harlem Globetrotters. They're the fake opposition. And even willing to live in a Bannana Republic.
As for White suburbanites, fuck them. Those clowns just want to grill and have abortions. Throw them some dollar bills and porn and they're happy.
to Tina Trent: aahhhhhhh, no, not just wrong, but completely wrong.
I don’t mind “birthday” because I have no sense that it’s being used to dumb down diction for hoi poloi, or to signal the author’s solidarity with same.
“ No one in their right mind would say "Today is the 72nd anniversary of my birth" in order to distinguish it from the the term 'birthday'. If the actual day you were born is the connotation that you want, you use 'date of birth' or 'birth date'.”
I agree, but the point I was making was against a kind of literalism that was aimed at a word.
I suspect that our president emeritus put the grocer's apostrophe in on purpose. And it worked! He has us talking about him. Again. Still.
One of the keys to selling (having made my living at it for the past 40 years) is getting people to remember you. Successful sales people will always be memorable for one thing or another.
In the 80s and 90s there was a guy who was on TV all the time in ads pitching how if you paid him something you could get free money from the government. Not much different from a million other TV pitches then and now. Most of them you have forgotten if you ever paid attention
But I'll bet most everyone here remembers this particular one. I'll bet you can even think of his name even though you've not seen him in a quarter century.
He was the guy who had dollar signs on his suit. That made you remember him. If you had been in the market for govt money, he would have been in your mind for no other reason.
Patton said something like "I always give it to them hard and salty. That way they remember it."
PEDJT using the apostrophe is like that. He did the same thing with covefefe. We'll be talking about both. Perhaps mockingly but no matter. We are talking about him and there is no such thing as bad publicity.
And I had never heard it called a "grocer's apostrophe" before either. I am always learning something here.
John Henry
For the few here who do not remember, the guy was Lesko! A/K/A Matthew Lesko
Yeah, we all laughed at him, but he seems to have done pretty well out of it.
As I used to say when I was selling capital machinery "I'd paint my fanny green and go naked if it would help me sell machines."
(Not original with me. But don't do a search on it. There is a porn genre for green fannies. Both American style and British style)
John Henry
Lesko, IIRC, began as a librarian and realized that most people had no idea of how much gummint money was available for the asking, or how to ask.
He compiled the info into easy-to-use formats, and spared people the effort of going into a GovDocs repository library and dealing with . . . librarians. GovDocs librarians.
FWIW, and it's probably still true, the USG is the largest publisher and disseminator of information (and misinformation) in the world. We always had to tell the students that.
Mr Wibble said...
One of the problems for the GOP now is that it's a party still built around that idea that the key to victory is winning over squishy moderate voters who turn out for every election. The Dems, in contrast, have the infrastructure in place to turn out the vote of low-propensity voters.
That's one of the things that has crossed my mind as well as I've been reading various articles on the political realignment we are seeing. It's gonna be a race to see if the Democrats can figure out who they shouldn't try to get to the polls before the GOP can build a turnout machine. The wild card could be if the unions jump firmly in the GOP direction and bring their GOTV machinery with them.
Sorry, Milo and Rich. I used to work for the Kochs' AFP. Did you? All their operatives came from the Jeb Bush inner circle. Their head national organizer would get drunk and viciously mock the TEA Party.
Rich, David Koch ran in 1980 on a platform of eliminating all national borders. Even the ACLU and the NYT found that too extreme. That was his primary issue, though his policies more broadly would have eliminated policing and prisons. Look it up.
I'm not going to bother to explain all the times the Koch and Soros organizations are working together openly now. Do the work yourself.
Milo, if you're imitating that character from Vicar of Dibly, that's pretty funny.
Also, Rich, Trump is the only candidate Club for Growth and AFP not only refused to support but actively paid and organized to oppose.
Look that up too.
Jesus wept, what will it take for you people to comprehend this? Milo is just a leftitarian anarchist. But Rich, you're very smart.
Sorry Milo. I missed your comment. Are you responsible for sending Koch operatives to my husband's law office to disrupt a speech I was giving there? Because if you are not, why not be ethical enough to find out who did, because that was trespassing and don't think I won't press charges. And in Athens. And in Cummings. And in Dawsonville. And in Dahlonega. And in Gainesville. And in Sun City Center. And in Sarasota. And in Apollo Beach? And in Bradenton? And in Naples?
Is that your version of a nice guy?
Nice.
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