January 29, 2017

"I have tremendous feeling for the people involved in this horrific humanitarian crisis in Syria.... as President I will find ways to help all those who are suffering.""

Writes Donald Trump (on Facebook).

(What I took out at the ellipsis: "My first priority will always be to protect and serve our country, but...")

86 comments:

Mike Sylwester said...

How come our President Trump doesn't use MySpace?

Chuck said...

As I just posted in the other thread; this is the new, improved, mainstream explanation for the action.

It is NOT anything like his "total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States..." trash talk from early in the campaign. We critics of Trump said that nothing like that ever would or ever could happen. This is more like it. Even noting the continuation of Obama-era policy:

We will keep it free and keep it safe, as the media knows, but refuses to say. My policy is similar to what President Obama did in 2011 when he banned visas for refugees from Iraq for six months. The seven countries named in the Executive Order are the same countries previously identified by the Obama administration as sources of terror. To be clear, this is not a Muslim ban, as the media is falsely reporting.

This is not about religion - this is about terror and keeping our country safe. There are over 40 different countries worldwide that are majority Muslim that are not affected by this order. We will again be issuing visas to all countries once we are sure we have reviewed and implemented the most secure policies over the next 90 days."


This is the adult-supervised Trump.

Once written, twice... said...

It has been very heartening to see so many Republicans rejecting Trump today. He is a small time demagogic huckster. Four years of this fool is going to take a toll.

Once written, twice... said...

Ann, you did not write one truly critical post about Trump during his rise to power in 2016. His reflection is on you.

JML said...

Once written, twice... said...
Ann, you did not write one truly critical post about Trump during his rise to power in 2016. His reflection is on you.

When you first started this nonsense did't you say, "...one critical post?" Now you are adding 'truly.' It is still nonsense.

Take your shame show somewhere else. It isn't true and it isn't working.

Sebastian said...

"as President I will find ways to help all those who are suffering." Unlike O, who aided and abetted the slaughter. But of course "extreme vetting" is worse than contributing to the horror that produced refugees in the first place.

Bill said...

Did they take away his Twitter?

Birkel said...

JML:

Your post could have been directed at Chuck too.

Birkel said...

Bill:
Which 'they' is going to take anything from the President?

Did Valerie Jarrett take Obama's NCAA Tournament bracket away?

n.n said...

We are not facing the communist, socialist, fascist, and imperialist state actors of wars past. The obstacles created by social justice adventurism, including the collateral damage caused by abandonment, delegation, and premature evacuation, can be overcome without forcing refugee crises and a global humanitarian disaster.

FullMoon said...



And yet, we have Chuck approving of Trump today, although moderating his approval by crediting "others" for Trumps behavior.

AReasonableMan said...

President Do Gooder Trump is more scary than all the other versions.

How about we just let them sort things out for themselves? Human conflicts were resolved for millennia before the founding of the US of A. I'm guessing there is some institutional memory over there that would kick in if we just butted out.

Jon Ericson said...

Bill, WL, 'ol '55.
Whatsamatta, lost your pussyhat?
You usually sound bitter, deranged.
Now you sound like Unk#11.

rhhardin said...

Just don't help them by bringing them to the United States.

They gain all right but we lose. It's not a deal we would make voluntarily.

Negotiate for America's side of the table. Let them negotiate for their side.

When we agree, then a deal is made. Otherwise not.

Lyin'PB_Ombudsman said...

Isn't the smart con move to use this F-up to get rid of Bannon, or at least severely limit his power?

OTOH, that will just empower the RINOs (like Paul Ryan) that Bannon is known to dislike. Presumably true cons wouldn't want to do that.

OTOOH, maybe it's best to just sit back and whine about libs. Why worry about how the sausage is made: left to themselves the Rs will do the right thing. So, what's that you say about the evil libs?

Big Mike said...

@Once written, your schtick only works on the weak-minded conformists. Althouse is neither weak-minded nor particularly conformist.

Loser

Jack Wayne said...

The end of Soros. We can only hope.

Angel-Dyne said...

Chuck: As I just posted in the other thread; this is the new, improved, mainstream explanation for the action.

It is NOT anything like his "total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States..." trash talk from early in the campaign. We critics of Trump said that nothing like that ever would or ever could happen.
[...]
This is the adult-supervised Trump.


In foresight, hindsight, and sideways-sight, there is absolutely no one to compare with Chuck. Since the day Trump announced he was running, Chuck has had a stunning run of accurate predictions about how things were going to play out, keen and subtle insights into what Trump supporters thought, and, after having seen his early, middle, and late forecasts crowned with glory on election day, he finds his analyses of Trump's bad judgment and wrong moves continuing to be vindicated at every turn.

Drago said...

leftists with their Islamic pals.

Here's one from Sanford Florida, just north of Orlando. (wink wink)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vev-OzHQy94

When it comes to gays, here's Mr typical Imam: "Death is the sentence. We know. There's nothing to be embarrassed about this. Death is the sentence."

Out of compassion, the muslims have to kill the gays! You know, "out of compassion". The same compassion that the left uses to justify the filling of those mass graves.

Islam and the western left is very oddly linked, aren't they?

Drago said...

Once the islamists gain a sufficient foothold, you'd better be looking up when passing tall buildings as the islamists are known for launching gays off the roofs.

But you know, compassionately. Like Fidels lobotomies for homosexuals in Cuba.

Compassion, compassion compassion. So very much compassion.

Heartwarming, really.

Drago said...

Let's get these guys in here as fast as possible!!

http://www.latimes.com/world/middleeast/la-fg-islamists-sexual-slaves-20141013-story.html

snip: "One should remember that enslaving the families of the kuffar - the infidels - and taking their women as concubines is a firmly established aspect of the sharia, or Islamic law."

Hooray for the islamists and the left!

Drago said...

Let Them In! Let Them In!

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2010/apr/25/middle-east-child-abuse-pederasty

Drago said...

Let Them In! Let Them In!

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/755997/Sweden-Malmo-military-intervention-no-go-zone-crime-surge

AReasonableMan said...

No-go zone Drago is back talking out his ass about Europe. Let me start my timer to see how long it takes until we have to walk this one back.

AprilApple said...

Too bad Hillary and red-line limp-dick Obama left this mess.

cubanbob said...

Why bring them to NY when it would a blessing for them to relocate them to Mecca?

exiledonmainstreet said...

"No-go zone Drago is back talking out his ass about Europe"

What is he saying that isn't true? Malmo Sweden is the rape capital of Europe - almost of them committed by Muslim refugees.

Something that was not pointed out by the pussies at the Pussy Hat March.

Comanche Voter said...

Between Chuck, Once Written, and A Reasonable Man, I'm longing for a sensible post from someone like Laslo yamering about sex with gerbils.

We'll see what happens. But Chuckie and the Sisters of the Perpetually Outraged will soon get boring.

rcocean said...

McCain and Lindsey are grandstanding as usual. Chuckie Schumer is crying.

Go Trump!

AReasonableMan said...

rcocean said...
McCain and Lindsey are grandstanding as usual. Chuckie Schumer is crying.


Even Dick chimed in, "the ban goes against everything we stand for and believe in."

rcocean said...

Trump Tweets:

"The joint statement of former presidential candidates John McCain & Lindsey Graham is wrong - they are sadly weak on immigration. The two.....Senators should focus their energies on ISIS, illegal immigration and border security instead of always looking to start World War III."

Love the digs. "former presidential candidates" zing! "instead of always looking to start World War III." zing.

I hope McCain and Lindsey can find the spare time to run their committees. Of course, I understand sucking up to the NYT, appearing on the Sunday talk shows, and 2nd guessing Trump takes priority.

exiledonmainstreet said...

The Guardian, hardly a right wing source, points out the prevalence of pederasty and child abuse in Muslim countries and ARM's response is "lalalala, I can't hear you!"

I ask again: what benefit do Muslims bring to the US? What do we have to gain by letting them in?

Lyin'PB_Ombudsman said...

"Even Dick chimed in, "the ban goes against everything we stand for and believe in.""

Don't forget that there's one more to add to the Chuckie count: Koch.

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AReasonableMan said...

exiledonmainstreet said...
ARM's response is "lalalala, I can't hear you!"


Would you like to point to where I say that?

exiledonmainstreet said...

ARM, you said Drago was "talking out his ass about Europe" after he posted links about the rape crisis there and the high incidence of pedastry and child abuse in Islamic culture. I asked exactly what Drago had posted that wasn't true and you didn't answer.

That's "lalalala I can't hear you."

It's rather sad that I have to remind you of what went on in a thread you have been actively participating in.

AReasonableMan said...

exiledonmainstreet said...
That's "lalalala I can't hear you."


But I did not write "lalalala I can't hear you."

Do you understand how quotes work?

exiledonmainstreet said...

"Four years of this fool is going to take a toll."

It's already taken a toll on you. You sound dumber and more unhinged by the day and he's only been in office 1 full week.

Keep it up and you'll be in a loony bin before all his cabinet nominees have been confirmed.

Birkel said...

Honestly, "AReasonableMan", nobody could assume that was a direct quote instead of obvious and well deserved mockery. What a feeble and pedantic response.

Carry on.

William said...

Assad used poison gas. Putin bombed indiscriminately. ISIS raped, tortured, maimed, and burned their prisoners alive. But the last straw, the one hideous, unforgivable offense that will unite the Muslim world in outrage is Trump banning immigrants from Syria. I was never good at math. I don't see how this equation balances.

exiledonmainstreet said...

But I did not write "lalalala I can't hear you."

Do you understand how quotes work?

1/29/17, 9:24 PM

Uh, do you understand how figures of speech work, or did you skip school the day your 3rd grade teacher explained that to the class? Like Slow Joe Biden, I guess you have a tough time grasping the difference between literal and figurative.

Don't be stupid. You are in effect, ignoring Drago's links because they don't conform to your rose-colored glasses view of Muslim immigrants.

Now what are you going to say? That you don't have on actual rose-colored glasses?

AReasonableMan said...

I'm going to take that as a No on understanding how quotes work.

exiledonmainstreet said...

I'm going to take that as an additional sign that you're thicker than pig shit.

exiledonmainstreet said...

Anything to say about the story regarding the prevalence of pedantry and child abuse in the Muslim world, ARM?

Anything to say about the epidemic of rape committed by Muslim immigrants in Europe?

Anything to say about the fact that one of the women who organized the pussy hat march is a Muslim woman who advocates for the imposition of Sharia law?

AReasonableMan said...

exiledonmainstreet said...
thicker than pig shit


I'm going to concede your vastly greater experience with this issue.

Bad Lieutenant said...

I can't imagine why you leftists or Chuck imagine this weakens or harms the country or the President in any way. For my part, I love it and I want more.

Trump with the international Accord on safe zones will accomplish more to help these people you (well, not ARM, he's on the ethical level of "nits make lice") claim to care about than anything Obama did in his entire term.

Chuck said...

Bad Lieutenant said...
I can't imagine why you leftists or Chuck imagine this weakens or harms the country or the President in any way. For my part, I love it and I want more.


For my part, I don't recall typing words to the effect that this order harms the country.

All that I wanted to say was that when Trump called for a total and complete shutdown on Muslims entering the United States, he was full of shit. We were right to call that out as bullshit, and the weekend's events proved us right.

exiledonmainstreet said...

"I'm going to concede your vastly greater experience with this issue."

Dodging the issue once again, ARM. As usual.

Lyin'PB_Ombudsman said...

Bad L,

BHO hated the Moooslims.

This new con POV re BHO is good stuff.

Carry on.

Jon Ericson said...

I did not know that.

Keep huffin'.

Drago said...

Let Them In!! Let Them In!!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2329089/Woolwich-attack-Two-men-hack-soldier-wearing-Help-Heroes-T-shirt-death-machetes-suspected-terror-attack.html

snip: "You and your children will be next"

....but in a "good" way....

Drago said...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/terrorism-in-the-uk/10073910/Woolwich-attack-terrorist-proclaimed-an-eye-for-an-eye-after-attack.html

The question on every leftists lips: What did this soldier do to deserve this?

Drago said...

It's no big deal!

Let Them In!!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/8570506/Police-covered-up-violent-campaign-to-turn-London-area-Islamic.html

snip: "Police have been accused of “covering up” a campaign of abuse, threats and violence aimed at “Islamicising” an area of London."

Leftists covering up islamist violence?

No. That simply can't be.

exiledonmainstreet said...

PB said: "BHO hated the Moooslims."

Obama quotes regarding Islam:

“The future must not belong to those who slander the Prophet of Islam”

“The sweetest sound I know is the Muslim call to prayer”

“We will convey our deep appreciation for the Islamic faith, which has done so much over the centuries to shape the world — including in my own country.”

“As a student of history, I also know civilization’s debt to Islam.”

“Islam has a proud tradition of tolerance.”

“Islam has always been part of America”

“we will encourage more Americans to study in Muslim communities”

Wow! That's some blistering hatred!

David Begley said...

Serious question. Why didn't Obama vaporize Assad years ago? It is not like things could have gotten any worse in Syria without him running the show.

Drago said...

Exiled, that's not all: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/space/7875584/Barack-Obama-Nasa-must-try-to-make-Muslims-feel-good.html

Snip: "Barack Obama: Nasa must try to make Muslims 'feel good'

The head of the Nasa has said Barack Obama told him to make "reaching out to the Muslim world" one of the space agency's top priorities."

Wow. That's some kind of brutal!

Lyin'PB_Ombudsman said...

Exile,

Thanks for correcting Bad L.

Drago said...

David Begley: "Serious question. Why didn't Obama vaporize Assad years ago?"

Seriously, because obambi did nothing for 8 years to impede Russia's progress and he wasn't about to start in Syria.

Putin probably just stared at him for a minute or so until li'l baracky demonstrated his oh so intimately promised "flexibility" and turned tail.

In addition to the fact that if you remove Assad you better be ready to fill the vacuum. No way that was happening after Obama turned Libya into an utter failed state.

Unexpectedly!

https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/libya/obamas-libya-debacle

Bad Lieutenant said...

If somebody understands what these noids are on about, please share. Chuck, nice evasion.

Lyin'PB_Ombudsman said...

Twitter is hinting that my option 1 at 8:10 is being tested by the Ryano folks.

Time will tell.

Lyin'PB_Ombudsman said...

Good thing none of y'all have the balls (or gal equiv) to state a pro, or not-pro Bannon POV.

Just keep jabbering about the out of power libs, not to mention tube talkers. That way you guarantee that you'll be able to chime in as supporting the end result, after you see whatever it is. Life long Chuck doesn't know how that this is how it's supposed to work. He thinks you start from a point of principle and then make judgments. Dope.

BTW, I hear that Garage is up to all sorts of bad stuff. Peanut butter + labs = .

Carry on.

harryo said...

I'm confused why anyone would want to blog about this. It's not like any of the commentators here are going to expose any intelligence.

I don't mean that in a mean way. I mean, the whole Arab Spring was a CIA operation that failed.

Kerry spent his last months trying to get everyone off of Turkeys back, else their economy and country will collapse. The CIA is now in full retreat.

But none of us knows what the CIA plans are, so this blog post is like a trash fire where hobo's gather. You couldn't expect much intelligent conversation there.

I think that whenever the CIA fails, the best thing to do is close the gates of the fort.

Achilles said...

Lyin'PB_Ombudsman said...
Isn't the smart con move to use this F-up to get rid of Bannon, or at least severely limit his power?

No. The smart move is to laugh at you hypocritical muslim loving fuckwits. It is fucking hilarious to watch you dumbfucks put on your pussy hats and call Trump supporters racist bigot homophobe Nazis and then jump in and tell us all how we must let some actual murderous racist bigot homophobe nazis immigrate into the country.

Please keep this up. Bannon is leading you all right into the briar patch and you are retardedly jumping in with both feet. Please keep defending sharia law. Please keep defending people who throw gays off roofs. Please keep defending people who force rape victims to marry their rapists. Please keep defending female genital mutilation.

Idiots.

Lyin'PB_Ombudsman said...

Choosing to not express disapproval of Bannon/DJT is the same thing as supporting what he's doing. It's not like he's going to self-correct.

Arguably the same could be said for DJT-apologist blogger gals who can't even say who they voted for. Silence is acquiescence from the POV of DJT/Bannon types. I don't doubt that many folks are doin' some math, like: throw overboard American values that don't seem to effect me, and then, in return, get tax cuts for job creators and a gaggle of Supremes that keep gals from infanticide as well keeps the right folks in power and free to create jobs.

Anywho, it remains to be seen if DJT can out-deal the folks who he's negotiating w/.

Carry on.

Achilles said...

Chuck said...

All that I wanted to say was that when Trump called for a total and complete shutdown on Muslims entering the United States, he was full of shit. We were right to call that out as bullshit, and the weekend's events proved us right.

You are right. We shouldn't ban all muslims. Just the ones that believe in sharia law and the ones that don't believe Israel has a right to exist.

In other words most of them.

Achilles said...

Lyin'PB_Ombudsman said...
Choosing to not express disapproval of Bannon/DJT is the same thing as supporting what he's doing. It's not like he's going to self-correct.


Of course we support what he is doing. He is showing the entire nation who the left really is. The left believes that Muslims are better people than Trump supporters. And the entire country is watching you people melt down right in front of us.

Every day you people put on your pussy hats and defend sharia law and genocide and you are too stupid to see what is going on.

Achilles said...

But please don't stop telling us how awesome Islam is. Please keep lecturing the country on how if we don't let more of them in they will radicalize and attack us. That is electoral gold right there.

Lyin'PB_Ombudsman said...

Ach,

Sure, the protesters are defending the imposition of sharia and genocide.

You are wise.




Carry on.

Mark said...

I hope McCain and Lindsey can find the spare time to run their committees.

They are too busy playing their extortion game, just as they did with George W. Bush, and trying to be the real power by threatening to deny their votes in the slim-majority Senate unless they get their way.

Achilles said...

Lyin'PB_Ombudsman said...
Ach,

Sure, the protesters are defending the imposition of sharia and genocide.

You are wise.


Maybe you were defending Obama's banning of Muslim's too?

Oh I forgot you shut down and pout just like this when you can't argue a point. You follow that up with "carry on" as if you said something even passingly cogent.

BJM said...

All that I wanted to say was that when Trump called for a total and complete shutdown on Muslims entering the United States, he was full of shit. We were right to call that out as bullshit, and the weekend's events proved us right.

I have to call Bullshit. The order bars the entry of any refugee who is awaiting resettlement in the U.S. for 120 days. It also prohibits all Syrian refugees from entering the U.S. until further notice. Additionally, it bans the citizens of seven majority-Muslim countries—Iraq, Iran, Syria, Somalia, Sudan, Libya, and Yemen, identified by The Obama Administration as sponsors of terrorism from entering the U.S. on any visa category.

There was and is no "shut down" of Muslims entering the US. Tens of thousands from majority-Muslim countries arrived and cleared customs as usual; Saudis, Malaysians, Indians, Pakistanis, etc. Flipping around the TV news I saw them with my own eyes, including the Iraqi translator who was detained and released who said he liked Trump, much to the dismay of the Dem Pols clustered around him. Some news orgas edited out his comment before airing the clip on TV. Sad!

The weekend's events prove that if the Left wants more Trump, this is way the left will get more Trump.

Lyin'PB_Ombudsman said...

Ach,

Sure, BHO hated Moooslims.



Got it.

Alex said...

Just the usual RINOs going after Trump. Let them obsess about ISIS recruitment drives, while President Trump worries about keeping them OUT of our country.

Achilles said...

Lyin'PB_Ombudsman said...
Ach,

Sure, BHO hated Moooslims.


He clearly hated Republicans and Trump supporters more than Muslim terrorists just like the rest of you. A fact you keep reiterating with every post. If you were smart you would stop telling everyone how much we need Muslims here. But I can count on you guys to put on your pussy hats and tell Americans we need us more sharia law.

Lyin'PB_Ombudsman said...

Ach,

Don't forget the genocide that you see being recommended along w/ the sharia and BHO hating Moooslims.



Carry on.

BJM said...

The Left is very good at memory-holing it's inconvenient past positions on immigration.

Where were the Soros funded mobs of angry protestors when Bill Clinton gave this SotU? As I recall he received a standing ovation.

Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts. -Daniel Patrick Moynihan

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Lyin'PB_Ombudsman said...

BJM,

That BHO comparo only got "at least" two Pinocchios, so for DJT that's good. It wasn't four, this time.

Presumbably y'all who are falling for DJT here would like to encourage the DJT folks (Bannon) who drafted DJT's EO to go back and see how their actions differed from BHO's. That way they'll learn the difference between running the US v writing for Alt-right fans on the tubes.

Just sayin'


Lyin'PB_Ombudsman said...

BTW,

why aren't y'all jabbering about how the criticism of DJT by libs is making y'all get more and more dedicated to backing up whatever DJT does?

Are y'all starting to realize that's a feature, not a bug from the other sides POV?

JK, I know that it'll be way to late before that light bulb goes off for y'all.

Carry on.

Lyin'PB_Ombudsman said...

BTW,

Bannon's R enemies may try to use this fiasco against him. Y'all must resist that. Bannon knows best.

Lyin'PB_Ombudsman said...

Anywho,

If Rs don't turn this around, it's going to be hard for folks to write that the message of the last election was that elite educated folks need to listen to and follow the advice of lowly educated folks who live in the parts of the country that are more 20th century than 21st century.

Y'all will need to decide if Bannon should stay or go. Maybe this is just a normal rocky start. Things will turn around on their own and then we'll have MAGA.

Stay the course. Ride it out. Talk about HRC emails and BHO hating/loving Moooslims and how you consume popcorn when libs protest.

IOW, carry on.

Lyin'PB_Ombudsman said...

Chuck doesn't carry on and salute no matter what DJT/Bannon do.

He's a bad R.

Shun Chuck.

Renee said...

I saw this article from Philadelphia, looks there is a humanitarian crisis in Syria but not in all parts or the Syrian people who are affluent.

"We signed the petition to bring them over [here] in 2003," she said. "The vetting process went on. They were approved [immigrant visas] in 2015. They had to go first to Amman, Jordan, to get interviews and medical appointments to finalize the documentation. A few months ago, everything was approved and set. They chose to spend the holidays in Syria. They held off the flight for the holidays." http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/real-time/2-Syrian-families-detained-at-PHL-returned-to-Qatar.html

They chose to stay in Syria for the holidays?

exiledonmainstreet said...

" I don't doubt that many folks are doin' some math, like: throw overboard American values that don't seem to effect me,"

The math they'e doing might involve the fact that even as the addled ninnies of the Left screamed and postured about the wonderfulness of Muslim refugees, two Muslims shot up a mosque in Quebec(one they deemed "apostate"). Yes, Trudeau, invite more refugees in, that's an intelligent move, Justin.

The math also might include the fact the left wing hordes who show up with signs to shriek about Trump at a moment's notice look like crazed brats to any normal person and only make us Trump voters happier about our votes.

You're rich PB. Invite some refugees to come live with you if you're so concerned about them.

David said...

Trump is losing control of the narrative on this one. It could have used more preparation and explanation at the outset. And more collaboration with Republican members of Congress.

That said, Carter (1980 re Iran) and Obama (2014?) Iraq did similar immigration bans without it being a "constitution crisis."

Angel-Dyne said...

Renee: They chose to stay in Syria for the holidays?

Yeah, though professional do-gooders might find that one easier to explain away in comparison to "refugees" who regularly pop back to the home countries in which they are allegedly in grave danger. (Hell, Minneapolis even subsidizes their jaunts back to AllegedDangerstan.)

If all those virtue-signalling "compassionate" people out there want America to accept refugees, maybe they shouldn't have allowed our refugee program to be turned into a massive racket. Turns out even kindly generous people don't like being taken advantage of by racketeers.