January 20, 2013

Bill Clinton says: Do not look down on the bitter clingers.

"Do not patronize the passionate supporters of your opponents by looking down your nose at them..."
"A lot of these people live in a world very different from the world lived in by the people proposing these things... I know because I come from this world."...

"A lot of these people … all they’ve got is their hunting and their fishing... Or they’re living in a place where they don’t have much police presence. Or they’ve been listening to this stuff for so long that they believe it all."
He feels their pain...



He feels their pain, which includes feeling that they are getting looked down on, so don't let them notice, he's saying, even as he lets the big Democratic donors see that he knows just as well as they do that the bitter clingers are a bunch of losers.

Don't look down you nose at them. Whenever you eyes are trained on the bitter clingers, project feel-your-pain empathy. Save your condescension for the off-camera, off-mike back rooms.

154 comments:

Expat(ish) said...

BHO is the only guy who could make me miss Bill.

Well, at this point next year, Jimmy might evoke the same feeling.

-XC

Shouting Thomas said...

...all they’ve got is their hunting and their fishing...

Hunting and fishing is damned good stuff!

Mogget said...

Contempt is very, very hard to hide.

pm317 said...

Save your condescension for the off-camera, off-mike back rooms.

Why wouldn't you finish that sentence to read, like Obama. Low information voters need that kind of clarity.

Humperdink said...

As a follow on Expat(ish), why is it that Democrat presidents never seem to go away?

Maguro said...

It's really the same sentiment, though, right? Just a bunch of simpletons who don't know any better clinging to primitive pastimes like huntin' and fishin'.

There's never any acknowledgement of the possibility that they might actually have a point.

ricpic said...

...I come from this world...

And yet he feels nothing but contempt for it. I wonder if somewhere deep down in the long buried original man he recognizes that he is that saddest of all beings, a man without a country.

Sam L. said...

Obama doesn't conceal it. He's The Won.

Jay said...

All they’ve got is their hunting and their fishing..

Um, huh?

Is he saying that these people are so poor they have no other recreational activities?

Or is he just saying they are stupid?

kentuckyliz said...

Dear Lefties: imagine your worst fears coming true. The Right takes power and becomes fascist and theocratic and oppressive.

How are you going to resist the tyranny if your anti-gun schemes work?

You will be outgunned by the government you aspire to resist.

See...it works both ways, dunnit.

Jay said...

I come from this world.

Oh bullshit.

I doubt he's spent any time hunting or fishing.

wyo sis said...

The most insipid man in the world says "I don't always tell the truth, but when I do it's still a lie."

edutcher said...

It seems the Demos can only win any more with narcissistic sociopaths.

PS He liked to brag he was the smartest boy in Hope, AR. I always wondered, in the 50s, how big was Hope, AR?

A line like that is right up (or down) there with the original "bitter clinger" speech.

PPS Lady Gaga Brabra, Ms Liz?

chickelit said...

People should be concerned with creeping gun control -- ban this here now, ban this when something else happens in the future. Lefties think it's all hyperbole -- some fevered fantasy of what Ritmo called "gun humpers". I suspect that people like Ritmo (and Althouse to a lesser extent) really do believe in the inherent benevolence of Government. They consider the possibility of tyranny as too remote.

bpm4532 said...

Bill was never of that world, except if it was convenient to score with a babe of that world.

rehajm said...

From the article: ...saying that it was a test-case for President Barack Obama’s grass-roots movements.

Do not look down your nose at these people who don't recognize their own oxymorons.

“You have the power to really democratize America,” Clinton said. “You can do it on immigration reform, you can do it on these economic issues. You can do it on implementing the health care bill.”

But, Clinton warned, the issue of guns has a special emotional resonance in many rural states — and simply dismissing pro-gun arguments is counterproductive.


In other words, if you ever want to win again: drop the guns and back away!

betamax3000 said...

Naked Bob Dylan Robot on ""Stuck Inside Of Mobile With The Memphis Blues Again"

Location-based programming often remains encoded in Humans, even when the Unit has changed vector positioning. As such, their circuitry can come into conflict with their programming. While this is a minor bug other Humans fear this duality, often expressing these fears through a Condescension Interface mode.

"But me, I expected it to happen
I knew he'd lost control
When he built a fire on Main Street
And shot it full of holes
Oh, Mama, can this really be the end
To be stuck inside of Mobile
With the Memphis blues again."

somefeller said...

Bill Clinton tells Dems to show more respect for their adversaries, and he gets criticized for doing so by said adversaries. Can't win with some people, and some people really enjoy wallowing in self-pity, as one can see here.

kentuckyliz said...

edutcher: yes. I chose this profile pic to honor the moment I joined the NRA (yesterday).

I've only ever held a gun once.

edutcher said...

somefeller said...

Bill Clinton tells Dems to show more respect for their adversaries, and he gets criticized for doing so by said adversaries. Can't win with some people, and some people really enjoy wallowing in self-pity, as one can see here.

It's the way he says it. You must have taken a class from him.

edutcher said...

Recent pic, Liz?

You look good there.

Michael K said...

" Blogger somefeller said...

Bill Clinton tells Dems to show more respect for their adversaries, and he gets criticized for doing so by said adversaries. Can't win with some people, and some people really enjoy wallowing in self-pity, as one can see here."

If you thought that was "respect" you just outed yourself (as if we didn't know) as an Obamabot.

kentuckyliz said...

David Gregory presented a word cloud of the second inaugural speeches of Clinton and Bush. I posted this tweet:

#MTPWordCloud you misspelled "generation" in the Bush word cloud...you had it as "genereation" bwahahaha

kentuckyliz said...

edutcher: The profile pic is lady gaga.

The Santa Security Detail pic is from Christmas Eve, 2008. There's a story behind the pic.

Although people love it when I use it as my profile pic on facebook. Mostly for the irony I think.

I think I should make it into my custom published Christmas cards. "Peace on earth, motherfuckers!"

kentuckyliz said...

Another caption could me:

"Santa sent me. You've been very naughty."

chickelit said...

somefeller said...
Bill Clinton tells Dems to show more respect for their adversaries, and he gets criticized for doing so by said adversaries. Can't win with some people, and some people really enjoy wallowing in self-pity, as one can see here.

As if you've ever shown even one thread of empathy for anyone outside of your little Sullivanistic circle of jerks.

somefeller said...

I feel pity for you,chickelit. Doesn't that count for something?

McTriumph said...

Bill is just slowly beginning to rehabilitate Hillary, after her miserable failure at State. Unfortunately Bill is a narcissistic sociopath, he always wants and needs a blowjob from his audiences, there in lies the problem for Hillary. Will the videos of Bill's foreign paid speeches surface if Hillary runs in 2016, the ones disparaging America and it's interest.

gbarto said...

I don't think Clinton is exactly calling for gun controllers to respect their adversaries as people, but he is warning them to respect a political force they don't understand. It's another chance for Clinton to highlight that he knows better than the current crop of Democrats. And, sadly enough, he does. And while I don't much like the man, it's good to see a call for these people to cool their jets and realize that there might be more to the world than they know.

Aridog said...

chickelit said...

... [people] really do believe in the inherent benevolence of Government. They consider the possibility of tyranny as too remote.

I have recently been reminded, elsewhere, that my entire life has been one of resistance to authority and total distrust of government benevolence ... even though I voluntarily became part of that government. My attitude was and is pretty much if the government is for something in a big way, I'm likely against it....or at least distrust it and its sponsors.

Though I cheered the killing of Anwar al-Awlaki, delighted in fact, I suspect the method of a drone killing US citizens. Drones are secret killers, with acknowledgement only when the drone masters feel the public will like the results. All failures and mistakes are unreported....and there is the danger.

Don't even get me started on the piss poor planning and uncoordinated bullshit involved with Desert Storm...which we instigated with a bang and ended with a sniveling whimper.

Paul said...

Well these 'bitter clingers' are gonna show Obama and the progressives just how serious we are at clinging to our guns and religion.

The NRA is getting bigger and bigger and even if Schumer says we are a 'fringe group', well that fringe group will soon by SIX MILLION. We had 4.3 million but Obama has done everything he could to drive people to our organization.


They can go ahead an look down their noses for all we care.

Paul said...

Oh, and keep in mind what 'Dollar Bill' Clinton and 'Baby Killer' Reno did to people during HIS administration (besides Monica.)

He and Reno only wish they had drones back then.

edutcher said...

kentuckyliz said...

Another caption could me:

"Santa sent me. You've been very naughty."


Love it. I'll share it with Herself.

Bob Boyd said...

It sounds like he's saying this gun control fight is not going to be a winner for the Dems in the big picture.

EDH said...

Don't look down you nose at them. Whenever you eyes are trained on the bitter clingers, project feel-your-pain empathy.

Thus, Clinton advises double penetration.

Always remember to blow smoke up their ass while sticking your Gurkha Grand Reserve in their hoo-ha.

Jerome said...

"Or they’re living in a place where they don’t have much police presence. Or they’ve been listening to this stuff for so long that they believe it all."

So, either;

a) they believe they need weapons because they have seen what happens to people who don't have weapons, or

b) they believe they need weapons because they have heard about what happens to people who don't have weapons.

OK, got it. Put me in group b, and hoping to stay there.

chrisnavin.com said...

Shorter Clinton-

I'll help old Barack out and reposition myself and my wife. I remember when I was the first black president. Should I stab him in the back or keep propping him up?

He beat Hillary, no, make that Billary. I'm the hillbilly whisperer. Heck, I am a Bubba, but a Bubba that went to Oxford.

I'm the Statesman. I own this party.

Look at me!
------------------
P.S. Did Hilary ever testify about Benghazi?

When to make a move....when to make a move.

I think it's time for her to lead another young girls in leadership conference, or give an interview to Vogue about her pantsuits and diplomacy.

Keep the idiots useful.

Bruce Hayden said...

Dear Lefties: imagine your worst fears coming true. The Right takes power and becomes fascist and theocratic and oppressive.

By throwing in "fascist" there, you are are accepting the progressive narrative and their revisionism. Fascism is a brand of socialism, developed to compete with communism. The big difference between the two views of socialism is that in communism, the state owns and controls the means of production, whereas with fascism, big businesses continue to operate, but must do so in close cooperation with the state, and by doing so, they get preferential treatment. In other words, crony capitalism. In Nazi Germany, that meant getting access to cheap or free labor from the concentration camps. Under Obama, that means massive bailouts of the financial institutions that helped cause the financial crisis, but are considered too big to fail. And, with that, million dollar bonuses (along with, of course, the Dems running Fannie and Freddie at the time).

So, to simplify, Fascism is crony capital socialism backed up by thugs with rocks and clubs, and later with the barrels of guns wielded by government stormtroopers.

O Ritmo Segundo said...

Save your condescension for the off-camera, off-mike back rooms.

Lol! Like Romney tried to do. Hahahahahahahahahaha.

Chip S. said...

Bill Clinton is the he heartiste of American politics.

O Ritmo Segundo said...

I suspect that people like Ritmo (and Althouse to a lesser extent) really do believe in the inherent benevolence of Government.

Wherein Chick Literature reveals his belief in the inherent benevolence of devices that have no function other than to kill and maim.

They consider the possibility of tyranny as too remote.

As a "check" against a nuclear-armed state? You'd better fucking believe it.

Try living in Gaza and let me know how "free" firearms will keep you. Tanks, MOABs, ICBMs, drones are NO MATCH FOR THE PORTABLE ARTILLERY CHOICE of 1776!!!

Yes, anyone would have to be quite insane to believe that.

Bruce Hayden said...

Still, I think that Slick Willie is making a good point. A lot of Dems and progressives don't really understand "red" America. And, I think that he does, or at least did, winning statewide election in Arkansas, hardly a liberal state, three or four times. His wife, Hillary!, was really always a "blue stater", growing up around Chicago. But Bubba Bill does have those roots.

I think that he is warning his party that they are facing electoral Armageddon by pushing gun control, esp. after this historic victory of theirs last November. Obama isn't going to have any coattails in two years, and his epic GOTV organization will be history. All this gun control debate really does is to energize those opposed to more gun control, while possibly forcing vulnerable members of Congress to either buck their party (with all the attendant costs to them) or take a vote that could easily lose them reelection.

O Ritmo Segundo said...

I just did a GOOGLE Images search for "Gaza celebratory gunfire" and could have sworn I just saw several of the participants to this thread in some of the returns.

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edutcher said...

O Ritmo Segundo said...

Save your condescension for the off-camera, off-mike back rooms.

Lol! Like Romney tried to do. Hahahahahahahahahaha.


Like Barry does all the time.

Ha Ha.

chickelit said...

O Ritmo Segundo said...
I just did a GOOGLE Images search for "Gaza celebratory gunfire" and could have sworn I just saw several of the participants to this thread in some of the returns.

The ones taken on 9/11/01? Those commenters would be the Palestinian rights crowd -- all left wingers.

n.n said...

Interesting. Romney was right about the people receiving non-contributory entitlements. The welfare system in America causes dissociation of risk and thereby corruption of individuals and institutions. They neither have a stake nor an incentive to preserve the system. They are incidental rebels who authoritarians exploit for democratic leverage.

Clinton, and the left-wing elites, seem to genuinely maintain a contempt for the "wrong kind" or lesser people. I wonder what he though of Lewinsky and other women he exploited.

Beware the Ass which comes bearing redistributive (i.e. ill-gotten) gifts.

David said...

So full of shit.

O Ritmo Segundo said...

Oh, they do the gun-love-fire-bullets-into-the-sky nearly all the time, Mr Ward Chicken Churchill. Weddings, assassinations, car bombings, murdering gynecologists. You know, the typical right-wing stuff.

They hate that Zionist government as much as you hate your own U.S. government. So cute... Birds of a feather!

Chip S. said...

@Ritmo, they hate the Zionist welfare state?

O Ritmo Segundo said...

That's quite the article to get the attention of our own resident Chicken Little, Chip!

Israel has a right-wing, just like the U.S. does. But for the most part their economists seem to not be under the thumb of social welfare-hating sociopaths, as is the situation in the U.S.

Whatever realistic challenges are foreseen, I'm sure they'll deal with them more intelligently and humanely than the likes of Rand Paul and Paul Ryan would.

O Ritmo Segundo said...

Oh, sorry. I spoke too soon. The problem you brought up is well-known. The ultra-orthodox (hardly left-wingers) are subsidized to engage in nothing but daily bible study, and this is even extended to an exemption from joining the military - an otherwise universal right of passage there.

The Arab citizens also get this exemption, although one would think without subsidy, and the resulting problem is that an institution crucial for introducing individuals to the networks and system of merit upon which further economic advancement and employment is based, is bypassed.

Suffice it to say, this problem (at least among the religious) is universally reviled among Israeli liberals and moderates, and ripe for overhaul. But political momentum is currently not in their favor.

The situation is analogous to the U.S., where the right-wingers who bitch the most about social welfare programs are still some of its biggest recipients. It's like the tax write-offs given to religious institutions in the U.S. on steroids.

So the parallel backfires on American right-wingers, actually. It is the Israeli left and center who would end that in a heartbeat.

Conscripting Arabs is a trickier problem but one that probably must be done anyway.

Chip S. said...

I dunno, Rimo. I thought that Israeli economist sounded a lot like Mitt Romney in camera:

"On the one hand, we have this state-of-the-art part of the economy. Then there is the rest of the country that is like a huge drag."

What worries Ben-David most is that the nonproductive part of Israel's population, which survives largely on welfare, is also the fastest growing.


If it's sociopathic to think that reforming old-age entitlements is a good idea, then Australia, Sweden, and a bunch of other countries are governed by sociopaths.

wyo sis said...

"social welfare hating sociopaths"
What a nice calm conversation inducing comment.

O Ritmo Segundo said...

Israel has a culture that values blunt, tough talk and not bullshitting each other about what people really think. I believe it works for them because they also lack these callous American notions about how not caring for others is a required, manly sign of rugged individualism or something. They are not ashamed of being a society that has the compassion to clearly care for itself and its system of universal health access is yet another sign that American right-wingers would prefer to look past in acknowledging that.

Americans prefer to butter up their words and blow sunshine up the asses of whomever they think needs the most ass-kissing. Israelis work hard enough and see clearly enough to not have a problem calling out those whom they deem as lazy. Life in a dynamic, close-knit population of less than 10 million will do that for you, whereas Americans don't even know what's going on next-door.

Reforming anything in no way means sociopathy. Making something as efficient as it is effective is fine. The problem is American right-wingers who use the promise of the former as a guise for doing away with the latter.

Shouting Thomas said...

Ritmo is crawling up from the sewer at the bottom of the comments!

This is sort of like Gollum trying to live in the sunshine.

Ritmo is slowly edging back into his term paper padding mode, with his fluff scholarship comments.

There's something about Ritmo that just engenders hatred. The kid's got the biggest "Kick Me!" sign on his ass I've ever encountered.

The kid spends all his time imagining horrible thoughts for other people, which he then attributes to them. The thoughts are his own, which makes you wonder how this Gollum ever ventures out into the daylight.

Shouting Thomas said...

See what I told you?

Ritmo/Gollum is now in his term paper padding mode, pontificating authoritatively on a subject irrelevant to this thread.

He's cracked in so many ways, but all of them make people hate him.

O Ritmo Segundo said...

Chip - The Hall Monitor has just arrived to tell you what you can and can't talk about.

Chip S. said...

Israel has a culture that values blunt, tough talk and not bullshitting each other about what people really think.

This has certainly been my experience. To a slightly lesser extend it applies to Jews from other non-US countries, too. I think it may have something to do w/ close study of the Talmud.

But on the question of right-wing sociopathy, how can you tell which of us would-be entitlement reformers want greater efficiency and which of us are haters?

Serious question.

Shouting Thomas said...

"social welfare hating sociopaths"
What a nice calm conversation inducing comment.


This Gollum just plain enjoys being hated. It's odd.

I don't mean that Ritmo enjoys being hated because of his opinions. The little shit just enjoys being hated and does everything he can to provoke hatred.

You've got to wonder what kind of personal life, if any, this habit produces. I'm not seeing a lot of light.

What is it, Ritmo. Why do you want to be hated? You're so good at it.

Shouting Thomas said...

In some head up the ass way, Ritmo/Gollum sees the hatred he provokes wherever he goes as proof that he is an incisive original thinker.

He's actually the usual PC blatherer. Completely indoctrinated. Predictable.

You've got to wonder why this Gollum comes here for his daily dose of bile. It's a bizarre act.

O Ritmo Segundo said...

But on the question of right-wing sociopathy, how can you tell which of us would-be entitlement reformers want greater efficiency and which of us are haters?

Serious question.


Well, at the risk of my "engendering hatred" by answering your serious question - as the Hall Monitor would put it - I don't know how easy that is. One way would be associations. Another way would be the willingness to engage in self-criticism. Alan Simpson criticizes Republicans and served on a bipartisan commission with Ernie (or whoever) Bowles to address budgeting in a serious, long-term way.

Unfortunately, the passion and arguments too often merge with the noise. The fact is that Republicans have political concerns as well as governing concerns, and it's not too clear how they've decided to distinguish between them - assuming they have.

Gerrymandering has made the only competition for safe (R) seats to be how partisan-conservative/ideological you need to be in a primary. Not a great way to encourage effective government under a non-one party state.

Unfortunately it looks like the only answer is the political shift that I see currently occurring back to the left wing. These shifts appear to occur in 40-year cycles. The push to take on serious spending and infrastructure challenges will come from and be carried out by the left, with the right-wing slowly reforming itself into a less silly caricatured opposition with which the party that cares about the government it's elected to represent can actually work. Much like as it occurred during the height of the state that FDR built from the 1940s through the 1950s.

If Republicans want to avoid that fate and long-term minority status, then they can get serious about addressing the reform of programs that are as effective as they are efficient and stop letting Rush Limbaugh call the shots for converting them into a party that is more concerned with power and propaganda than with the effectiveness of its policies.

O Ritmo Segundo said...

I'm wondering if Stinky Two-Tones promotion to Hall Monitor came with a badge. He's a big fan of artificial authority. Makes him feel like a real man!

Shouting Thomas said...

See, there you go.

I can't even read through Ritmo's fluff.

It all gets down to the usual PC leftist screeching about Rush Limbaugh. He could have done this in two sentences, as my FB PC friends do.

How many time do you want your ass kicked today, Ritmo? You enjoy it so much! You're the kinkiest masochist on the web.

Chip S. said...

In Ritmo's defense, ST, I'll say that he is nearly unique among Althouse libs in his willingness to follow links provided and address the issues raised.

The vitriol puzzled me for a while, until I realized that Ritmo really enjoys sparring with you, ST.

Jay said...

O Ritmo Segundo said...
The push to take on serious spending and infrastructure challenges will come from and be carried out by the left,


HA HA HA HA HA
HA HA HA HA HA
HA HA HA HA HA
HA HA HA HA HA
HA HA HA HA HA
HA HA HA HA HA

And you actually take yourself seriously.

Idiot.

Shouting Thomas said...

Here's the solution to the endless prattling fluff, Ritmo.

Just issue those alternet graphic thingees with the clever PC slogan on the bottom. I get a hundred of those every day on FB.

You'd save everybody a lot of time.

wyo sis said...

Ritmo
You seem to have a problem distinguishing between conservative and Republican.

Jay said...

If Republicans want to avoid that fate and long-term minority status, then they can get serious about addressing the reform of programs that are as effective as they are efficient

There are 30 Republican Govenors, you fucking idiot.

PS: there isn't a single elected Democrat you can name who is "serious" about addressing any entitlement program.

None.

Zero.

You're silly fucking joke.

O Ritmo Segundo said...

I can't even read through Ritmo's fluff.

That's because you're stupid. Unfortunately Blogger doesn't have a way of allowing line drawings to be uploaded. Or crayons for you to use when coloring inside them.

You are a Hall Monitor for People Insecure about Their Stupidity.

Let the serious discussion with Chip proceed. He is not the joke that you've made yourself out to be.

Or just go troll Lawyers, Guns and Money again.

Jay said...

O Ritmo Segundo said...

Wherein Chick Literature reveals his belief in the inherent benevolence of devices that have no function other than to kill and maim


Note the silly stupid shit can't bring herself to admit she believes government is benevolent.

This is despite the fact that every government in the history of man has become bigger and more tyrannical as years go by.

So the silly stupid shit will respond with straw men.

That makes her ignorance much more pleasant.

Shouting Thomas said...

I always enjoy it most when Ritmo the Gollum takes that turn in tone and goes completely bonkers.

Ritmo is an original in that he projects the most hideously hateable aura on the web.

There is something just so damned awful about him. I haven't been able to find a single likable aspect to his personna. That takes some doing.

Jay said...

The push to take on serious spending and infrastructure challenges will come from and be carried out by the left

Social Security is the largest single expenditure in the history of government programs.

There isn't a single elected Democrat interested in reforming Social Security.

You silly stupid shit.

O Ritmo Segundo said...

You seem to have a problem distinguishing between conservative and Republican.

If that "distinction" mattered then so would have John Huntsman. Or Ron Paul.

You are believing the talking points and propaganda peddled by Minister of Information Roger Ailes and Rush Limbaugh and thinking that a serious point has been made, one that I've missed.

It's not a serious point. The Republicans are showing that on a national level, they're done.

What happens in the states will be decided later. But that depends on whether FOX et al keep those guys in their sights or not. They probably won't.

Shouting Thomas said...

You are believing the talking points and propaganda peddled by Minister of Information Roger Ailes and Rush Limbaugh and thinking that a serious point has been made, one that I've missed.

Another alternet propaganda graphic.

This stuff is churned out hourly at alternet, Ritmo.

You got anything besides these Xeroxes?

O Ritmo Segundo said...

wyo -

Do let me know how well Shouting Torment and "Jay" represent serious, conservative thought.

They seem to be dominating the discussion here from your side.

Jay said...

Ritty the retards comments boil down to:

Republicans are unserious meanies and unpopular (never mind R's control more state houses and Gov Mansions)!

And Democrats are benevolent and kind.

Me, Democrat.

So there.

Shouting Thomas said...

The Faux Noise! graphic propaganda blast from alternet is a big favorite.

I get about two dozen a day on FB!

Jay said...

O Ritmo Segundo said...
Do let me know how well Shouting Torment and "Jay" represent serious, conservative thought.


Silly stupid shit:

You aren't capable of serious thought.

And this fact is reflected in the ongoing vomit that is your idiotic rantings here.

Thanks for participating.

O Ritmo Segundo said...

Thanks for the defense, Chip (missed it before in STD's drivel). But can you tell me how people like him and Jay help or hurt conservatives?

Shouting Thomas said...

Ritmo's strategy unfolds:

After calling people horrible names and imputing vile thoughts to them (which are, of course, his own), he settles down into chastising others for failing to provide him with serious, sensible conversation.

Like I said, Ritmo, you're online personna is absolutely destatable.

There isn't anything to like at all.

Jay said...

O Ritmo Segundo said...
Do let me know how well Shouting Torment and "Jay" represent serious, conservative thought.


Fully 26 states — more than half of the country — are completely controlled by Republicans.

There are 30 Republican governors.

You are vomiting about "minority" status.

You're a silly, ignorant, unserious clown.

O Ritmo Segundo said...

I'll say that he is nearly unique among Althouse libs in his willingness to follow links provided and address the issues raised.

The vitriol puzzled me for a while, until I realized that Ritmo really enjoys sparring with you, ST.
.

I used to not mind sparring with him, or listening to whatever humanity he had left in him. But now it's become painfully obvious that he's an insecure, chip on his shoulder, stupid bore.

Tell me which links in opposition to his stance (if he has one on anything - it seems like his only stance is a pee-pee dance stance performed by anxious toddlers needing to relieve themselves) he has ever followed.

I'm happy to end the discussion there with him and Jay representing the "seriousness" with which conservative issues are pursued. Look at what they've done to the thread! So cute!

It's like watching kids draw on their own bedroom walls, those two.

Erika said...

Bruce--

Agree with most of your post, but I dunno about this:

his epic GOTV organization will be history

See here.

Shouting Thomas said...

I'm not having a political discussion with you Ritmo.

You're too deranged and stupid for that.

The only thing that interests me about you is this awful, detestable personna you just putting out there.

What in the fuck are you doing?

Jay said...

I'm happy to end the discussion there with him and Jay representing the "seriousness" with which conservative issues are pursue

Mind you, the author of this:

The push to take on serious spending and infrastructure challenges will come from and be carried out by the left,

Thinks she is serious

You're a silly parody.

O Ritmo Segundo said...

Thomas exemplifies the problem with conservatives today. He thinks he's the boss of others.

Look at how he demands to be entertained and enlightened.

He's a stupid bully, obsessed with authority, and a good study for finding the outlets that are designed to flush away the stagnant streams of sewage that can build up in conservative thought - or in any other ideology.

Jay is the same way.

Enjoy those two and do let me know how the movement is going with them.

Inga said...

I've wondered many times how reasonable sane commenters such as Wyo Sis and others allow themselves to be represented by the likes of Jay, how they can stand by. I think liberals will stick their necks out and risk incurring the wrath of bulliesfor the sake of fairness.

ST, you're too hard on the Ritmo. I know you can be reasonable. I also wonder at the disproportionate responses by ST, Jay, President Pantsload, Methadras, whoresoftheinternet,etc. to liberals here. Is it just a safe convenient place to vent your spleen?

Shouting Thomas said...

Inga, Ritmo is not a liberal.

He's barely sentient.

I really wonder about the kid. What in the hell is he doing?

O Ritmo Segundo said...

I really wonder about the kid. What in the hell is he doing?

Not being a ridiculous Hall Monitor of comments threads, which is what you specialize in.

wyo sis said...

Ritmo
None of you represent serious thought at all. That's the point. You all love the brawl. It's too tedious to filter through the garbage to find a valid point.
The difference is that everyone but Ritmo at some point emerge as real people I might enjoy a face to face conversation with. Ritmo makes me want to hate him. I don't hate him, but I sure want to.
Shouting Thomas has Ritmo figured out.

Shouting Thomas said...

Inga, we can disagree, and we often do, quite vehemently, but I can tell that you are a likeable, enjoyable person.

There's none of that in Ritmo.

He's just a stewing, paranoid awful mess.

Inga said...

No Wyo Sis, ST doesn't have Ritmo figured out. You couldn't be more wrong.

wyo sis said...

So, Inga, fill me in on the real Ritmo.

William Chadwick said...

I wonder if "sociopath" and "sociopathic" are currently the Hive's trendy put-down du jour. I notice that the left-wing cartoonist Tom Tomorrow seems to apply it regularly to anyone who dissents from the statist party-line. Apparently, to "liberals" (and by that I mean of course coercion-addicted, tax-happy State fellators), a "sociopath" is anyone who believes his life and property belong to himself and not the Hive.

Inga said...

ST, you bring out the worst in people when you bring out the worst in yourself.

O Ritmo Segundo said...

Chip disagrees with you, wyo. So does Traditional Guy and a good number of conservatives who are done with this place.

Let me know when you become a "real" enough person to address the reform of entitlements and spending in the serious way that I guess Chip must also be too "unreal" to discuss.

Inga said...

Wyo Sis, maybe if you quit comparing him to your brother in law and get to know what he's about, you'll be surprised.

wyo sis said...

Ritmo
No, you let me know when you are here in good faith by not following the standard Ritmo process of suddenly appearing, flinging poo, making attacks, sounding like a baby, displaying your ass, and finally settling down to a discussion with someone, usually Chip S who has the patience to suffer through your insanity until you deign to try to make a point.

Shouting Thomas said...

Inga, I think you're engaging in the traditional female behavior (which I find commendable) of finding some good in everybody.

I can't see anything in Ritmo. Nothing.

He spends his time imagining hideous thoughts for other people and imputing those thoughts to them. Sometime, he goes even further and imagines crimes which he then assigns to people he doesn't know.

He's a fuming, paranoid rabid dog.

wyo sis said...

I compare him to my brother in law because he acts like my brother in law, a diagnosed narcissist.

Inga said...

Wyo sis, Chip S. has the intellect to recognize it in others.

Jay said...

O Ritmo Segundo said...

Let me know when you become a "real" enough person to address the reform of entitlements and spending in the serious way


Hysterical.

Remember, this:

O Ritmo Segundo said...
The push to take on serious spending and infrastructure challenges will come from and be carried out by the left,


Is serious!

O Ritmo Segundo said...

Inga can be the interlocutor here. I'm not sure how much interest I have in getting personal on this thread (as opposed to being "real", the meaning of which sounds much more vague). And armchair/amateur psychiatry holds as much appeal to me as does armchair quantum mechanics. But I guess what they hate is that I can brawl and jibe and discuss issues seriously and I think they hate that combination.

Maybe they're not used to that and need to know if someone like that can exist IRL.

wyo sis said...

I'm not arguing about his intellect. I'm stating a valid opinion based on his behavior in this forum.

Baron Zemo said...

Hello....is anyone there...Buellar?

O Ritmo Segundo said...

I am Baron. I've become the topic of the thread!

Wyo believes that this must somehow appeal to me, or it would if her "thesis" were correct.

It's like being in the chair of a dentist, though. A dentist who can't find a cavity after a year of eating nothing but sweets and not brushing my teeth.

O Ritmo Segundo said...

But a dentist who still loves the drill.

Shouting Thomas said...

But I guess what they hate is that I can brawl and jibe and discuss issues seriously and I think they hate that combination.

Ritmo, no. You're the usual PC idiot.

Like I said, I get the dozens of alternet graphic blasts every day on FB.

You keep going back to politics. Like I said, you're too damned stupid and deranged for a political discussion.

The only thing that interests me about you is why in the hell you project such a bizarrely hateable personna. People must want to kick you in the balls within minutes of meeting you.

Inga said...

Baron has become the thread monitor now, calling for Meade and his deletion tool? Who are you seeking Baron?

Shouting Thomas said...

I thought you were doing a good job as monitor, Inga.

You've got that helper/empathy thing that works so well in the nursing biz.

wyo sis said...

ST
Inga also has that hectoring thing that appears in between the coaxing down to a science. Mad nursing skilz.

Christopher said...

I just assume all politicians hate the average individual, it helps explain most of their actions.

Inga said...

Well ST, it appears you all need to kiss and makeup. You first ST, give Ritmo a hug, come on, I know you can do it :)

Rusty said...


The only thing that interests me about you is why in the hell you project such a bizarrely hateable personna. People must want to kick you in the balls within minutes of meeting you.


I think if you ever met him he'd be quiet and shy.

Inga said...

Hey! Lets talk about Chip S. he is soooo mysterious.

Shouting Thomas said...

I am trying to give the little bastard a hug, Inga!

He just keeps begging me to kick him in the nuts.

Inga said...

Well hug his nuts instead.

Mary Beth said...

Clinton said that an National Rifle Association lobbyist threatened him over his veto in the state house, saying that the group would cause problems for his upcoming presidential campaign in rural states like Texas.

“Right there in the lobby,” Clinton said. “They thought they could talk to governors that way.


The nerve of him, thinking he could talk to politicians like that!

Lydia said...

Hi, Ritmo.

It's such a relief to know that you really haven't much interest "in getting personal on this thread". This is a going-forward thing, right?

Best,
Lydia
(the person you called a "shriveled and desiccated" wannabe whore yesterday)

Inga said...

Oh Lydia, don't feel bad, I've been called an old shriveled whore so many times on this blog I can't keep count.

O Ritmo Segundo said...

ST has always made me fear that a hug from him would result in suffocation. Or strangulation. But I'm game for being proved wrong.

Inga said...

Ah, it would do Mama Inga's heart good to see her two favorite boys getting along.

Shouting Thomas said...

... old shriveled whore... is almost a compliment on the internet!

O Ritmo Segundo said...

Lydia, if you want an apology then there should be ample material to work with in the aftermath and analysis of that comment yesterday on the same thread.

Which, as Inga will confirm, is more than what most of these tough guys have tended to give her in the past for similar language.

O Ritmo Segundo said...

Well, in the spirit of unity and sexual degradation, I think we can all find comfort in the words of Ali G. - who, when addressing one of Harvard's graduating classes, said:

NO matter whether black, white, brown, or Pakistani, we all come from the same place...

The punani.

wyo sis said...

Well, well, we seem to be to the acting like a baby part of our program.

Inga said...

ST, I may be old, but I'm still juicy. And I'm sure Lydia is not at all shriveled!

wyo sis said...

Nope, it's showing our ass time.

Inga said...

You first Wyo, come on drop those bloomers!!

wyo sis said...

Too late, Inga Ritmo got there first, followed closely by, guess who?

Shouting Thomas said...

So, have we achieved Kumbaya?

Inga said...

Yeah, pass the doobie.

O Ritmo Segundo said...

Yes -

But there's only one thing missing.

Jay must rejoin the circle of reconciliation, foregiveness and love.

Only Inga has the power to call him back from the bushes, where he hides and looks on upon this display, furiously masturbating.

I hope that wasn't too mean a joke to make.

Inga said...

Shhhh Ritmo, let's just leave Jay in the bushes, as long as he's busy he won't bother anyone.

NotquiteunBuckley said...

I come here for the fights.

Now, let's you and him fight!

You fight real good now, ya hear.

Baron Zemo said...

This thread is an exact parallel to the "Real Housewives of Beverly Hills."

Shouting Thomas is Brandi Granville.
Ritmo is Kyle Richards.
Wyo sis is Lisa Vanderpump.
And the execrable Inga is Taylor Armstrong.

But it is nowhere as entertaining as the original. Just sayn'

Inga said...

See what I mean Lydia? Baron just called me excrement.

NotquiteunBuckley said...

Every dollar spent by Big Gas and Big Oil results in an economic benefit of $6.32 and fewer dead Americans due to lack of funding for terrorists.

This means taxing Big Gas and Big Oil, what libs do but want to do in a singular often punitive fashion, is killing Americans by arming our enemies.

It is also the cause of the recession as the money go toward areas with low economic impact such as fat government workers.

O Ritmo Segundo said...

Thread saved by... INGA!!!

Let's give her a hand.

Who knew that tugging on my nuts had such powerful and restorative effects?

Inga said...

That's my specialty Ritmo. I'm a nurse after all.

Baron Zemo said...

ex·e·cra·ble /ˈeksikrəbəl/
Adjective
Extremely bad or unpleasant.
Synonyms
abominable - odious - loathsome - abhorrent - detestable

Not excrement. Sharpen up.

NotquiteunBuckley said...

Scott Walker will win the Presidency in 2016 with Sarah Palin as V.P.

The lib panic will be entertaining and extremely destructive to their collective psyche. The implosion will surpass that of the Bush years and age libs 14.5 years in a span of just 8 calender years.

O Ritmo Segundo said...
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NotquiteunBuckley said...

Sarah Palin.

Inga said...

Yes Baron, I know. It was a joke.

Inga said...

Wooo Hoo, Buckley is soothsayin' !

O Ritmo Segundo said...

Oh, you should see her with a scalpel, Baron.

Inga said...

Well, my work here is done. I'm off to nurse the sick, make the lame walk and cure Jay of chronic drooling. Bye y'all!

Lawyer Mom said...

One thing Clinton said (not excerpted by Ann) is that he tried to help -- and didn't, enough -- the Democrats in the House & Senate keep their seats. Can you imagine that thought even crossing Obama's mind? He, who is keeping Organize for Action f/k/a Organize for America all to himself instead of helping his party.

Anyway, why aren't the 49ers running the pistol offense?

Kirby Olson said...

Clinton called his CIA agents his "personal pigs." I wonder what he called Monica?

Kirby Olson said...

Sorry that was Aldrich, an FBI agent who wrote a book about Clintons called Unlimited Access, or something. Cheesy wheezy, my brain is all breezy.

chickelit said...

The cultural gun gap is an unbroachable breach too far.

Venus vs. Mars

Venerdì vs. martedì

Venereal v. martial

"His Girl Friday vs. "Marty"

"Friday, I'm In Love" vs. "Ruby Tuesday"

chickelit said...

Would be safe to call Bill Clinton a "clitter binger"?

It sounds better than it spells.