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You gain it back from no killing frosts in Brazil.
"scientific" predictions are wildly inaccurate in things like this. We have been out of oil for 50 years now according to predictions.
I would like to know what Nate Silver's modeling says about this.
I seem to remember that the whole "climate change" deal was a hoax. Why would anyone pay attention to this?Oh, I remember. It's because we also re-elected a communist to the white house. We really are that stupid.
I'd like to see the writer's credentials.Most of the time these "scientific" hysteria articles are written by kids who've taken nothing but liberal arts classes.Bet this woman doesn't know shit about science, and has never done any kind of work in a scientific or tech field.So, chances are pretty good that the writer is passing on a PR release from an advocacy group.
Ummm, by 2020 I predict that southern Sudan will be a no-mans land of genocidal attacks and counter-attacks anyway, so the coffee situation will be the least of their worries.
I love the precision of "99.7."
Here's your writer:Danielle Angel Location: Guelph, ON Canada Member since: August 6, 2012Introduction:I am a young writer working as a junior editor at a small publication. What do you hope to get out of the group?I hope to gain skills and meet new people!What do you write?I write news, entertainment, and media articles.Have you been published or produced?www.foodbeat.com and www.halfhourmeals.comDo you have any expertise in anything you can share with the group for research purposes? You can still join if you don't.No answer yet.
The author of the linked article doesn't read very well.The WaPo article she's summarizing clearly specifies that the study is talking about wild coffee. The study the WaPo summarizes says this about cultivated coffee:Optimum cultivation conditions are likely to become increasingly difficult to achieve in many pre-existing coffee growing areas, leading to a reduction in productivity, increased and intensified management (such as the use of irrigation), and crop failure (some areas becoming unsuitable for Arabica cultivation).Not quite what your post title says, AA.
If you're in a con game and you don't know who the mark is.
For a couple of seconds the thought that this could be a real threat enterd my mind. Thank goodness it's bullshit.
Climate changes slowly. Move the coffee tree plantations to the places the climate is now right--if that happens. Holding my breath, I'm not.Disinformation is a skill set for those who claim to be our betters.
Assuming the writer is a college graduate, this article reveals more about higher education than coffee althouse. I wouldn't say a 99.7% reduction in quality, but it's closer to that than zero.
I remember in the early 1990s, some jokers at the University of Illinois predicted that by 2000 at the latest, Illinois would have the climate of Oklahoma/West Texas meaning our farming productivity would take a nose dive. It was a certainty--farm production down 80%. The Chicago Tribune and the local media made a big deal about this for a long time.Coffee prices and high demand are opening up new growing areas every day. Too bad people don't havtopo bet their careers are bullshit predictions. The rise of the oceans is in the margin of error within our ability to measure any changes. No area on the Earth is experiencing any significant climate changes save for the margin of existing deserts (like in the Sahel in Africa). And that desertification is well known (understood) and explainable for reasons other than man-made global warming.
dr this one, but I understand that's supposed to happen around 2080.If we live long enough to experience it, it will be due to the miraculous power of caffeine to raise one from the dead.
Frost on the roofs this morning for the first time I can remember--in Oceanside, CA.
well i was going to say this was the stupidest thing ever written now i'll say that it's written by someone just ignorant. for this doomsday prediction to work there must be climate change which kills all the wild coffee. the wild coffee then in turn needs to be the ONLY salvation for the plague that kills all the domestic coffee. which by the way we've been using for how many hundreds of years. yea i'm not holding my breath
I wonder how coffee plants will fare in the coming ice age.
Anyways--I'm a sensitive person. Do I detect what might be an uptick in NYT articles regarding climate change? Real or Imagined?
There will be no uptick in articles about the homeless, Benghazi, Fast and Furious, unemployment, bad economic news or the need for sleeves.So, there's that.
Obama is a little busy now to take on the coffee issue. Perhaps after he's gotten the lions and the lambs to lay down with one another.
ChipS, Althouse trying to scare people they won't have coffee shops in the future.
Starbucks and Lefties hardest hit.(hey, somebody had to...)
Do I detect what might be an uptick in NYT articles regarding climate change?Yes. In preparation for the tax tsunami that's in the works.
Funny stuff. Coffee has as much chance of going extinct as corn and rice.It's a non-zero chance for all, though, and if it's become more likely, that's because we've redirected NASA away from detection, tracking, and redirection of near-earth objects, and toward Muslim outreach.
The extinction of so much coffee is a terrible thing but the 0.3 that survives will be like drinking 100 bottles of whiskey while someone licks your tits.
Anyone want to recommend a Zabar's blend? I tried their Royale and didn't care for it. Considering going back to Gevalia's Breakfast Blend. Altho if you're just picking up at the grocery store, Dunkin Donuts is pretty good.
I'll be dead, don't care
I've always enjoyed a 50/50 blend of 8 o'clock's Colombian and French Roast.
Hmmm. Eight O'Clock is easy to get. And affordable.
I also have the Zabar's Blue Mtn and French-Italian but haven't tried them yet.
Never drank the shit. But this is one on the funniest Althouse threads I've ever read.LOL!
The Romans grew wine grapes in England. Shouldn't we be striving to get back to that?
For someone who is so interested in the art and science of the English language, this seems to be an almost deliberate act of misusage on Althouse's part."Predicted"?Or "Theorized"?The embarassing Fisking of the original author makes it something of a moot point.
@Professor Althouse, I recommend you and Meade run right out and spend your retirement savings on a supply of coffee to hoard for the next 20 years.Or cultivate a taste for tea.
I remember reading that in ten years there would be no bananas because of global warming. That was over ten years ago.
chickelit:It's nearly 66°F here just north of Chicago. Normal November weather. There's always a bit of "Indian" summer.
Leslyn,We buy Eight O'Clock Columbian beans and grind them fresh every morning. Walmart has the bags at an affordable price, the local grocery stores not so inexpensive...
I'm a tea man myself, so if coffee goes extinct I'm just going to sit in a corner & stick out my tongue at you all and say nyaaahhhh.......
Two votes for 8 O'clock! Gotta try it.
kimsch said...chickelit:It's nearly 66°F here just north of Chicago. Normal November weather. There's always a bit of "Indian" summer.It's up to 60 degrees now. Heading outside for chores. Happy Veterans Day and thanks for your service, Kimsch!
The global warming crowd reminds me of the land shark.One argument is shot down, and they switch to an entirely different, mutually contradictory argument as if they never made the first argument in the first place.Come to think of it, that is just like the arguments that Obama isn't the worst president in the history of the United States, too...I'm sensing a trend here.
Don't get cocky, tea drinkers.
So we engineer coffee that grows at higher temperatures: problem solved.Honestly, climate change alarmists act like we're still living in the stone age (they had to deal with climate change back then, come to think of it).
The Warmists will try anything.
It sounds like the shit is getting a little deep in this blog, so why not take advantage of it. From Wikipedia- Kopi luwak (Indonesian pronunciation: [ˈkopi ˈlu.aʔ]), or civet coffee, is the world's most expensive and low-production varieties of coffee. It is made from the beans of coffee berries which have been eaten by the Asian Palm Civet (Paradoxurus hermaphroditus) and other related civets, then passed through its digestive tract. A civet eats the berries for their fleshy pulp. In the digestive tract, the civets' proteolytic enzymes seep into the beans, making shorter peptides and more free amino acids. Passing through a civet's intestines the beans are then defecated, keeping their shape. After gathering, thorough washing, sun drying, light roasting and brewing, these beans yield an aromatic coffee with much less bitterness. This coffee is widely noted as the most expensive coffee in the world with prices reaching €400 per kilogram ($160 per pound).Since it has snob appeal, it will be right up her (Althouse')alley!
Me? I prefer "Joe's Dark" from Trader Joes or "Three Beans Coffee" from Whole Foods, ground right before it goes into one of my coffee presses.
Yes, perhaps the micro-climates most suitable to growing those particular types of coffee may disappear. But we shouldn't discount the possibility that a changing global climate will produce new, henceforth unknown micro-climates! Indigo climates that never existed on this earth! Think of the new varieties of plants these climates might let flourish. Give it a couple hundred thousand years and we may have coffees that make today's arabica taste like dehydrated fecal matter. Anyone for an Antarctic malbec? It's been a great century for Antarctic wines!!!Shouldn't we enact policies that assume the highly unlikely possible future just described will materialize, rather than the less sensational but more-probable future of the status quo? Isn't that was Progressives do? Why shouldn't we?!
I predict a 99.7% reduction in the bullshit supply when the economy crashes and people won't pay for these articles anymore.
Seeing as how I loathe coffee, this is supposed to concern me? Less coffee = no problem for me.
You're onto something there, Freeman. Bullshit is an inexhaustible resource. If we could figure out how to run the economy on it, we'd be golden. Oh, I forgot, we did. In last week's election.
UK scientists? Computer models? Remember "climategate"?
It's not just the headline.Amazingly poor work in reporting on the study by Olga Khazan at the Washington Post and Danielle Angel at Foodbeat.Foodbeat, well, OK, but the Post, just damn.
It's OK. I only drink Diet Coke, with Splenda.
The Agenda memo definitely has gone out. How about somebody leak those emails?chikelit is right, we have an uptick.I noticed it on Huffington Post's Front Page, was it Friday? big photo and cover treatment, and I thought, ahhh, the railroading has begun. Funny on that same day Drudge had a near the top item on Obama cutting out shale oil development in the West. HuffPo was mum of course, about that side of the story.Notice how quiet GW has been all of 2012? And now, Bam!Made me focus, always about what HuffPo Won't tell you. So I write my Democratic Senators and Representative about the unanswered questions of their party's administrations: 1. Do they agree that a President can single out and condemn an American citizen for exercising his Freedom of Speech? 2. What are you doing to end the corruption of your party that turned off the controls for contributing to our President's campaign? 3. How much did the last 18 months of campaigning by the President cost the American citizens? Camille is right. This party leadership must be shattered.
Even if AGW is true, what amount of drastic CO2 emission reduction would it take to avert the crisis? 40-50-70% in 5 years? It sounds to me as though a lot of people want to use the "crisis" to get a lot of carbon taxes put in place but not actually do anything to lower the temperature. What will the greens do about China, India who are burning through coal like there is no tomorrow?
http://photoblog.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/11/12/15100433-tea-time-in-thailand-workers-harvest-oolong-17.Good news for teabaggers!
leading to a reduction in productivity, increased and intensified management (such as the use of irrigation)Oh no. Our coffee will need water. Call the UN!
Oh shit, I'm dead in 2080. Who gives a fuck about coffee? I'll be dead! 100% of me, gone. Where's my headline? Where's my scary headline? Let's get those computer models working and fix my crisis, damn it.
Read closer. It says that only wild arabica "might be" in danger.Maybe. If their models are right (which does not give any confidence at all). Sort of.(Perhaps that update was added later, but the original source always had it, if you searched it out.This is why one should never read repackagers - especially sloppy ones hunting pageviews.)
Is this the same group that predicted blondes were going to become genetically extinct?
Leslyn:Still waiting for that citation you were going to provide...That is assuming your claims of fact weren't totally made up? You know, your claim that budget cuts prevented Mr Obama from being able you to safeguard our staff in Benghazi...Still waiting...
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