September 3, 2010

Sarah Palin versus the "impotent, limp and gutless."

Talking about reporters, thinking about dicks.

171 comments:

Franklin said...

Is there a full moon coming or something? Lotsa phallic articles popping up...

roesch-voltaire said...

Sarah mostly lies about everything, but maybe she has experience with limp- or not interested?

Joe said...

Well R-V care to trot out all them thar lies...she lies 'bout ever thing yu otter be abel to jest whip too 'r three gude wonz raht owt......

HDHouse said...

ahhh her self description is certainly self deception...

and @Franklin...witty choice of words there..popping up...hahaha

MadisonMan said...

Franklin: There's always a full moon coming. But not 'til later this month.

MadisonMan said...

Those who are impotent and limp and gutless and they go on their anonymous - sources that are anonymous - and impotent, limp and gutless reporters take anonymous sources and cite them as being factual references

That's a rather incoherent sentence, but she does have the excuse of talking extemporaneously in front of a microphone.

Speaking off the cuff is an art for a politician, and I'm not sure I can think of a good practitioner at the moment.

Roux said...

I usually don't listen to Hannity but I left work a little early and heard the comments. I think her comments are right on. These reporters are spineless little men.

LarsPorsena said...

"..These reporters are spineless little men."

Is that the same thing as being a 'metrosexual'? Or is coincidental?

edutcher said...

The Lefties are only tough when they can gang up on an individual - not unlike the average biker gang.

When somebody comes right back at them, well, Miss Sarah nails it.

Trooper York said...

Limp, impotent and dickless pretty much sums up her critics here.

Loafing Oaf, Jeremy and hd.

The Tinkers to Evers to Chance of impotent cretins.

k*thy said...

That's a rather incoherent sentence

Also, the (impotent/limp/slay) metaphors aren't really fitting together - unless they are and she just has low standards.

Trooper York said...

There is a reason why the mainstream media ranks below used car salesmen and grave robbers in the estimation of the general public.

They never use the truth when can lie. They never search out a fact when they can make something up. They are self-satisfied failures in a dying profession.

They are the scum of the earth.

The only thing worse than a journalist is a lawyer.

Triangle Man said...

Doesn't quite have the punch of Agnew's "an effete core of impudent snobs who characterize themselves as intellectuals."

Joe said...

"The Nattering Nabobs of Negativity.

Trooper York said...

The "Nattering Nabobs of Negativism" are better described as the "Limp, Lying, Losers" of the mainstream media.

shoutingthomas said...

Remember, the fool Henhouse, last week said that Muslims are the new Jews.

And he still posts here!

Charlie Martin said...

Having been pretty much 100 percent in the media for a couple of years now, I can tell you: most reporters are dicks.

shoutingthomas said...

The Tinkers to Evers to Chance of impotent cretins.

Whoa!

Tinkers to Evers to Chance played for the Cubs the last time they won the world series in 1908!

Some things are sacred.

El Pollo Real said...

Is Hardon Carter of VF losing his mojo?

Trooper York said...

I will stipulate however that hd is an expert at being self-satisified. And impotent.

That's his wheelhouse.

Joe said...

(The Crypto-Jew)

I will stipulate however that hd is an expert at being self-satisified. And impotent.

Dare I ask how you would know this?

mccullough said...

Palin wants some limitless limpid jets of love from the media

Chip Ahoy said...

Hahahahaha, you make me laugh, Hostess, you sure do.

c3 said...

Impotent and limp; redundant

gutless; doesn't fit the image

Why am I imaging a naked male with serious erectile dysfunction AND a colostomy?


(I need a brain wash)

garage mahal said...

She can't stand being talked about, or not being talked about. Thanks McCain.

LarsPorsena said...

Impotent and limp; redundant
How about flaccid and feckless?

Joe said...

(The Crypto-Jew)

She can't stand being talked about, or not being talked about. Thanks McCain.

Can’t the same be said of ANY politician? It wasn’t McCain, Jindjal and Palin were both bruited about as VP candidates by many, not just the McCain camp. As I doubt you read to many Conservative websites I’ll understand your error.

Dust Bunny Queen said...

Speaking off the cuff is an art for a politician, and I'm not sure I can think of a good practitioner at the moment.

Chris Christie

garage mahal said...

Can’t the same be said of ANY politician?

She isn't a politician.

rhhardin said...

Differently abled, not limp.

traditionalguy said...

What a hoot.Sarah does not get mad, she gets even. That sure is different from John McCain's cringing fear of the very threat of MSM attack pieces until all he could do was suck up to the liberals. Sarah has Geo Patton's approach...Attack, Attack, and Attack. And she attacks with a charm and a love for her family (think of America as the family of the President) that is downright Momma Grizzlious. That ability to attack the media right back is what W lacked because as a white male W had to act like he would not be abusive like all white men are painted to be today.

Hagar said...

The commentariat seems to see sexual references everywhere. Do they have reasons to worry?

"The effete corps..." and "nattering nabobs of negativity" were both William Safire's creations.

El Pollo Real said...

Garage Mahal wrote:She can't stand being talked about, or not being talked about.

She isn't a politician.


And yet she gets under your skin somehow.

El Pollo Real said...

Garage Mahal wrote: She can't stand being talked about, or not being talked about.

She isn't a politician.


And yet she araises your ire.

El Pollo Real said...

The effete corps...

The "effete corpse" would be more descriptive and up-to-date.

Joe said...

(The Crypto-Jew)

She isn't a politician.
What is she Garage, a Caribou Barbie, over-promoted bimbo-snow bunny…next POTUS come January 2013?

garage mahal said...

What is she Garage, a Caribou Barbie, over-promoted bimbo-snow bunny…next POTUS come January 2013?

I'll go over-promoted, for sure.

Joe said...

(The Crypto-Jew)

I'll go over-promoted, for sure.
That’s a hoot considering the current occupant of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue and his multiple appearances on the cover of Newsweek and the Media “feeling tingly in its leg”….or do you mean promoted beyond her capacity, equally a hoot considering the current occupant of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue has been vastly over-promoted.

John Stodder said...

She happens to be right. Whether you are for or against her politically, it is "impotent, limp and gutless" to denounce someone anonymously. In my little LA world, I'll never forget this passage in a profile of a guy I knew who worked in City Hall.

"He's not very impressive," said one source, who requested anonymity.

Now, I'm fine with anonymous comments being used in a story about organized crime, or political bribery, or something of national importance where the anomymous source is clearly a whistleblower who would be genuinely damaged by the fallout if their identity became known. But people who want to be free to denounce someone anonymously should not be enabled by the media. If someone talks shit about a public figure, motive for talking shit is part of the story. Reporters who were, um, less impotent, would come back to the source and say, "Fuck you, if you want to say all this stuff about this person, I'm putting your name on it, or else I'm not using it. I am under no obligation to shield you from the shame you deserve for thinking you can use me to settle your scores."

This is a bipartisan view, by the way. I would say the same thing about pussies attacking Obama under a cloak of anonymity.

miller said...

"The Tinkers to Evers to Chance of impotent cretins. "

Brilliant. I'm saving that one, Trooper.

WV: gamli, the stinky dwarf of LOTR.

Cedarford said...

Triangle Man said...
Doesn't quite have the punch of Agnew's "an effete core of impudent snobs who characterize themselves as intellectuals."

"nattering nabobs of negativism"

Spiro Agnew had a far better team of speechwriters led by William Safire - than Caribou Barbie has managed.

Palin sometimes comes off as Wasilla trailer park trash, same with certain members of her family.

McCain "gifted" America with her. She now functions as a totem and Goddess Figure to the Religious Right and older white conservative males.
She won't go anywhere in politics - or every Republican should hope she just stays in a glorified Joe the Plumber role. (Albeit far better-looking and with big tits).

McCain's present to America is making a mint yabbering her schtick to the adoring yokels. Her daughter is becoming a reality TV star. 1st dude is working on a book on how to be a manly man.

A bored and depressed and economically scared America needs a new Spiro Agnew.

Maguro said...

@John Stodder - My favorite anonymous quote is this one:

One (anonymous) front-office executive said...Joe Kerrigan might be the biggest backstabber in baseball.

O RLY? I can think of a bigger one.

http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/joe-kerrigan-might-be-the-biggest-backstabber-in-baseball.php

Trooper York said...

"Joe said...
(The Crypto-Jew)
I will stipulate however that hd is an expert at being self-satisified. And impotent.

Dare I ask how you would know this?"

"c3 said
Why am I imaging a naked male with serious erectile dysfunction AND a colostomy?"

Well at the last Althouse commeters meetup in Brooklyn, hd lunged out of his wheelchair at a passing plate of french fries and his Depends fell down.

You guys should really attend the meetings if you want to know what is going on.

El Pollo Real said...

Cedarford wrote: She won't go anywhere in politics - or every Republican should hope she just stays in a glorified Joe the Plumber role.

Your political crystal ball
cracked and then shattered when you endorsed (and I presume voted for) the present POTUS back in November of '08.

Trooper York said...

Only true political sophisticates such as our friends Cedarford and hdhouse can hate Sarah Palin almost as much as they hate the Jews.

They are truly talented that way.

Doug Wright said...

Gee, in the day of Cialis and Viagra ads, why are the Socialists shocked at Gov. Palin's comments? And, Howie Kurtz seems particularly upset about her comments. Guess he and other true blue Socialists must be livid that she's exposed their nasty little secret!

John Stodder said...

She now functions as a totem and Goddess Figure to the Religious Right and older white conservative males.
She won't go anywhere in politics - or every Republican should hope she just stays in a glorified Joe the Plumber role. (Albeit far better-looking and with big tits).


I know we're supposed to excuse the sexism of the left, because they have such good intentions and a 10-point plan for the betterment of women, but honestly, don't any liberals who read these comments get a little nauseous at these kinds of disgusting put-downs.

If you're not smart enough to outduel Sarah Palin intellectually, fine. Just admit it. But don't go after her body. I mean, talk about impotent! Whoever wrote the above comment has some serious issues that need to be aired confidentially with a therapist, not here.

garage mahal said...

That’s a hoot considering the current occupant of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue and his multiple appearances on the cover of Newsweek and the Media “feeling tingly in its leg”

I guess the main difference being Obama is the President, and Palin is, well you know.

Joe said...

(The Crypto-Jew)

I guess the main difference being Obama is the President, and Palin is, well you know.
Forcing the POTUS onto the defensive with a Face Book Page? Capable of drawing 300,000 folks to the Mall without a union paying their way? Resonating with more people that the POTUS? Taking fewer vacations thatn the POTUS, playing less golf than the POTUS? Spending less money and not going to 5 Star resort hotels in Spain? I could continue, but I guess well you know…


RV must be at some world class Environmental Engineering Class or School, still haven't seen all those lies broadcast....

garage mahal said...

I could continue, but I guess well you know…

No that's quite alright.

Joe said...

I agree you've been pummeled enough...

DADvocate said...

Since when did gutless have sexual connotations?

But, yeah, she hits the nail on the head. Considering her family, I doubt there's much that's impotent and limp in her world.

Pogo said...

"...impotent, limp and gutless reporters take anonymous sources and cite them as being factual references," Palin said in her criticism of the press."

She cracks me the hell up. Sinks three pointers one after the other. The left can't even make a lay-up these days.

Palin has balls, man.
The MSM jes' got lil' raisins.

ricpic said...

Nattering nabobs of flaccidity
Missing out on Sarah's quiddity

roesch-voltaire said...

Joe trying using some resources to check out Sarah's lies. For example by typing in Palin and Lies to Google you will get a nice cross section of reviews on her book. Here at our world class school, we urge our students to make an effort to shift and winnow on their own.

Synova said...

Impotent has other meanings and is commonly used in other contents than sexual disfuction. Also, limp. Flaccid could be saved for next time. Gutless is gutless.

Now, I do think that she decided on the list ahead of time, impotent, limp and gutless, which is why she repeated it. I think she was aware of the sexual connotations and insult and it was intended... but completely deniable. Just like her implication that that reporter who moved in next door was a sexual pervert but in a way that was clearly explainable as a mother's protective reaction to the situation without an actual accusation because he *might* not be, after all.

This might upset certain people's world views, but Palin is not at all bad with words.

Is she *mean*? I don't think so. I sometimes think that Obama is mean because his humor is mean. Being mean in order to be funny really bugs me bad. But is it mean for Palin to be aggressive and lay into the opposition? Is she not acting with sufficient deferral or humility? Is that the problem?

Synova said...

RV, any time I've seen a list of Palin lies or listened to HD or someone say how she's such a big liar, it's always a case of ridiculous nit-picking or that the simplified version of events doesn't include all of the nuances of the whole business. A sound bite is supposed to be all encompassing? And this standard is applied to who besides Palin?

In other words, the accusations themselves are lies because they are inherently dishonest.

MadisonMan said...

DBQ -- I've never heard him talk off the cuff. I'll be curious to see (hear?) in the future if you're right.

Dust Bunny Queen said...

trying using some resources to check out Sarah's lies. For example by typing in Palin and Lies to Google

So, are you jeremey in drag, in a wig? Because we went through this previously.

If YOU are going to bring up facts, statistics or assertions in a thread/discussion, it is incumbent upon YOU to show us your references.

We aren't your research dogs. We aren't your librarians. We have better things to do than to "google" for information that YOU brought up.


If you say Palin has lied, and I have no reason to know one way or the other, show us where the lies are.

Prove your thesis. In otherwords. Put up or shut up.

Cedarford said...

El Pollo Real said...
Cedarford wrote: She won't go anywhere in politics - or every Republican should hope she just stays in a glorified Joe the Plumber role.

Your political crystal ball
cracked and then shattered when you endorsed (and I presume voted for) the present POTUS back in November of '08.
=====================
As bad as Obama has been, back in 2008 the case presented by McCain and Obama showed McCain a guaranteed failure. Amnesty for illegals, close Gitmo, don't have a single idea on the economy but starting a 3rd major war with Iran and the ensuing Depression - was a grand idea!!
Compared to that - Obama was the default cross your fingers and hope for the best sort of case.

The other reason I said people should seriously consider Obama is that McCain had a long history of treachery in undercutting and weakening the Republican Party by giving the Dems a fig leaf of cover on issue after issue. A McCain Presidency would guarantee a lop-sided Democrat-controlled Congress for 4-8 years.
With Obama - the country will snap back faster. The Liberal and progressive Jewish Dem Leadership of Congress can only do two years of substantive damage under the failed last years of Dubya and 2 more under Obama.

My second reason for voting Obama is that if he wasn't as good a leader as he was a campaigner, if he was going to the Left instead of being a centrist - the Democrats OWNED IT ALL. And the angry public, without John McCain having the Democrats back and calling them "My friends! My friends!" and blabbering about noble bipartisanship he achieved - would toss the bums out in a bigger way than they expelled the Bushie cronies.

Cedarford said...

Trooper York said...
Only true political sophisticates such as our friends Cedarford and hdhouse can hate Sarah Palin almost as much as they hate the Jews.

Yeah, York. You are a good little boot-licker. Any criticism of organized Jewish activists groups from the Bolsheviks to AIPAC putting Israel's interests above America's to Journolist conspiracy is "anti-Semitic". We get your thinking.
Any confrontation with the Israeli occupying forces, even a strike or blocking a road or building a probibited water well is "terrorism".
And any criticism of the Goddess of the Right is ...unAmerican.

We get you.

TosaGuy said...

"trying using some resources to check out Sarah's lies. For example by typing in Palin and Lies to Google"

I typed in Hillary Clinton and Supermodel and got 208,000 hits.

The Crack Emcee said...

MadisonMan,

"That's a rather incoherent sentence, but she does have the excuse of talking extemporaneously in front of a microphone."

From Victor Davis Hanson:

He mangled his words. A liberal industry grew up around both “nuclar” and its sometimes corrective “nucular.” He strutted and talked Nascarese-like “bring ‘em on.” Much of this was excessive, but we knew at least Bush meant it. We got worried when he extemporaneously expounded for long riffs about freedom at press conferences, as his eyes rolled and he drifted from topic to topic. He put his arm on Angela Merkel and cried out “Yo Blair.” The media told us he was a yokel; we might add: albeit an authentic one who could duck properly when under shoe attack.

But Obama? He cannot really speak off the teleprompter without pauses, repetitions, and constant self-referencing (as in “me,” “I,” “my,” etc.). He is stiff and not comfortable with himself off the court or golf course. Bush made decisions and stuck by them; Obama the professor offers a perennial “on the one hand”/”on the other hand” mish-mash and a sorta, kinda, almost answer. Americans would prefer to be in a foxhole with George Bush, who would swagger and announce as decider-in-chief at H-hour, “OK, pard, we’re going over the top together on this one.” They wouldn’t want to be with Obama, who would stutter and give a long-drawn out exegesis why race and class had condemned us to such an unfair predicament, whose only solution is to go into a fetal position and condemn “them” who did this awful thing to us.


I'll take any of these "incoherent" patriots, over the alternative, any day.

c3 said...

Sinks three pointers one after the other.

Pogo;
Do you really think it was a three pointer? I'm thinking more garbage rebound put in for two.

(Not that rebound skills aren't important. I mean look at Dennis Rodman......
OK you don't have to look at Rodman)

c3 said...

Evidence here.

Looks like a put back short jumper to me.

HDHouse said...

Trooper York said...
Limp, impotent and dickless pretty much sums up her critics here."

now now TY...one doesn't even have to be a critic of the wicked witch of the north to enjoy a good laugh.

Lil' momma griz sure enough has a thin hide...can't wait for her to run for president. i just can't wait. wowoooooweeee at least 8 months of a running joke.

The Crack Emcee said...

ratio"She now functions as a totem and Goddess Figure to the Religious Right and older white conservative males."

Boy, it's a good thing I'm not a part of those two groups!

And I do marvel at the fact that, amongst the liberals here, they can repeatedly say this crap without remembering my black ass destroys that narrative.

And if you're wondering why don't you see more of us speaking up, you might consider your racist asses attack black conservatives with more vigor than you do our white counterparts.

Pogo said...

@c3 said..."Do you really think it was a three pointer? I'm thinking more garbage rebound put in for two."

Perfect.
And the press is caught with their jock falling down, arms out to their sides, mouth agape, silently saying Whaaaaa?, lookin' at the ref to call a foul, who doesn't.

Effin' hilarious.

Synova said...

"And any criticism of the Goddess of the Right is ...unAmerican."

No, Cedarford. It's just that the criticism is ridiculous most of the time. I'll accept opinions and criticism of her... but what is "she mostly lies about everything?" It's not a criticism, it's spin. And you come with this thing about how McCain foisted her on the US when many people knew who she was and saw her as a political up-and-comer. McCain didn't "foist" her on us, he likely destroyed her career (granted, of course, he can't be blamed for her not saying "no".) The emotionalizing about how she's a quitter and somehow should have stayed governor or not tried to make quitting sound better than it was, strikes me as delusional at best as it imagines different facts than the real ones. Any "she should have stuck it out" needs to include some mention of just how difficult that would have been, how costly, and how destructive "but still the better choice", but that's not the "criticsm" that the "goddess of the right" is subjected to. No, it's more on the order of "she quit to write a book and get rich."

Criticize all you or anyone else likes, but no one gets their own facts or own history to go with those criticisms.

Trooper York said...

Hey don't get your Depends in a bunch there Ced, that's hd's job.

The only Jew whose boots I would lick is Rachel Weisz!

Happy Rosh Hashanah dude!

Sixty Grit said...
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Trooper York said...

Sixty buddy....if you stopped by the store we would have went for some wine and cheese.

traditionalguy said...

Sarah drives by a flat footed MSM and does her smiling dance in the end zone so often that she may get over confident, or she may keep her perspective and run up the score. A Ga Tech team once beat a visiting football team 224 to nothing.

garage mahal said...

And if you're wondering why don't you see more of us speaking up, you might consider your racist asses attack black conservatives with more vigor than you do our white counterparts.

Yet in all the time I've been here, I've never seen a liberal comment on anything you've posted. And let's face it, you do post a lot of nutty stuff.

c3 said...

Trooper;
The only Jew whose boots I would lick is Rachel Weisz!

What about this classic Jewish beauty

You know how to whistle don't you?

traditionalguy said...

Garage...It know that it is hard for a doctrinaire liberal to see Crack as a brilliant mind who has trained himself through much experience to judge what is false. He is telling you that it is hard core rascism to expect every black man to be an easy to lead fool.

Trooper York said...

And garage when you stop by I will run over a pigeon fresh for you.

Or a squirrel.

Your choice buddy.

Trooper York said...

Your link doesn't work but I have to assume that it was Lauren Bacall.

I wouldn't lick her boots.

But I would punch her in the face and steal her gift bag.

Just sayn'

ricpic said...

It's true that guys fall for goddesses and Sarah's a goddess, certified. Is that a bad thing? We could do worse than emulate Elizabethan England.

Trooper York said...

"We could do worse than emulate Elizabethan England."

You just say that because you want to wear Pantyhose and don't want to brush your teeth.

AC245 said...

Here at our world class school, we urge our students to make an effort to shift and winnow on their own.

Well you've certainly got the shifty part down, Roach.

Did they teach you to be evasive, dishonest leftist shills at your (snort) world class school, too, or was that independent study on your part?

(In fairness, I'd be embarrassed to provide cites too if my arguments were based on the demented rantings of Dr. RAWMUSLGLUTES, ObGyn.)

Trooper York said...

"Did they teach you to be evasive, dishonest leftist shills at your (snort) world class school, too, or was that independent study on your part?"

I don't that is fair. They have very stringent entrance requirements. Not everyone can draw a credible replica of a bunny from a picture on a matchbook. Fair is fair.

Lincolntf said...

What's hilarious is that Sarah Palin is everything the MSM wishes Obama was. Personable, bright, honest and credible. Someone who actually would be a "Change" in Washington.

Anyway, I don't want Palin to get the Repub. nomination in 2012 (at least she's not my first choice) but if she does, the debate between her and Obama will be epic. She'll own him.

Cedarford said...

Trooper York said...
Hey don't get your Depends in a bunch there Ced, that's hd's job.

The only Jew whose boots I would lick is Rachel Weisz!

======================
You make an excellent point! Natalie Portman and Gina Gershon aren't that shabby either. Nor was Ellen Barkin in her prime.

An interesting story on the reaction of a couple of Saudi Officers to a Barkin poster right after we won that one - upon learning her ethnicity - but that is another tale.

traditionalguy said...

Sarah is no Godddess. And the older white men do NOT like goddesses. What she is to them is a courageous warrior with all of the tools to win a culture war being fought to the death. And she is what the Europeans and other free people want to see here so that there is a culture that creates an honest place to invest money that will not be stolen. But Obama has the biggest thief and liar ever seen. She is the sharp contrast to his thievery by government. And the half and half thieves called RINOs are a big part of the problem. That is why Sarah is out to replace them too.

ricpic said...

"We could do worse than emulate Elizabethan England."

"You just say that because you want to wear Pantyhose and don't want to brush your teeth."

I do have a well turned calf. And my breath repels no one at court, no one of consequence...as opposed to tavern wits and other assorted bedlamite curs who block the paths of worthy swells in London town and need removal, or needs be removed forthwith...where was I?

Cedarford said...

Synova - "Criticize all you or anyone else likes, but no one gets their own facts or own history to go with those criticisms."

Oh, don't get me wrong! I find the Palins as entertaining as anything. With Bristol Palin and Mike "The Situation" Sorrentino from Jersey Shores cast on Dancing with the Stars - I am looking forward to the Wasilla HIllbillies vs. the Guidos out in the audience. 1st Dude wiping the floor with "DJ Pauly D" and Moma Grizzly tussling with Snookie. While Levi snorts a little blow backstage with Bronx boy Ronnie Magro and tries to be the peacemaker.

Not since the glory days of Geraldo and Jerry Springer has public expectation been so high.

edutcher said...

HDHouse said...
Trooper York said...

Limp, impotent and dickless pretty much sums up her critics here."

now now TY...one doesn't even have to be a critic of the wicked witch of the north to enjoy a good laugh.

Lil' momma griz sure enough has a thin hide...can't wait for her to run for president. i just can't wait. wowoooooweeee at least 8 months of a running joke.


When Deborah Kerr told her son to, "whistle a happy tune, so no one will know I'm afraid", in "The King and I", she was thinking of HD and his constant wishes for Miss Sarah to run.

Nothing would make HD soak his Depends faster than the idea of a Palin candidacy, especially a grudge match with The Zero.

I'll bet she hasn't forgotten the "impotent, limp and gutless" way the little punk gave her the finger.

ricpic said...

Hey tradguy, can we agree that Sarah's a WARRIOR...with sex appeal? ;^)

Sixty Grit said...
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Joe said...

R-V;
Wow that was amazing..."Google" "Bush" and "Failure" wow, does that make Bush a FAILURE....

You guyz at your world-class school might winnow your information differently than the rest or mayhap in Environmental Engineering you don't grasp how "Google" can produce false results.

I only went to a regionally known university, so who am I question my "better", eh?

DBQ, says it best...you make a claim YOU back it up.

El Pollo Real said...

Not since the glory days of Geraldo and Jerry Springer has public expectation been so high.

Palin must have crushed Jerry Springer's high hopes for Obama: link. I'll expect his little pussycat claws to come out soon.
And his widdow fangs too!

roesch-voltaire said...

Joe after you do the Google search then you have to shift through all the links and try and determine who wrote the material, is their an author named, and then check out the author to determine if they are writing in an area of expertise etc... at least that, in part, is what we teach in introductory courses at UW-Madison, which I admit of late has lost ranking. Here is a common one about the bridge to nowhere cited my many including Allen Roland: PALIN:
Palnin "I have protected the taxpayers by vetoing wasteful spending ... and championed reform to end the abuses of earmark spending by Congress. I told the Congress 'thanks but no thanks' for that Bridge to Nowhere."

THE FACTS: As mayor of Wasilla, Palin hired a lobbyist and traveled to Washington annually to support earmarks for the town totaling $27 million. In her two years as governor, Alaska has requested nearly $750 million in special federal spending, by far the largest per-capita request in the nation. While Palin notes she rejected plans to build a $398 million bridge from Ketchikan to an island with 50 residents and an airport, that opposition came only after the plan was ridiculed nationally as a "bridge to nowhere."

Mark said...

Bet that hit a LOT of nerves.

What I love most about Palin is she drives all the right people bonkers.

Joe said...

Now you're working it R-V, you've made a claim and have some EVIDENCE...

It's up to YOU, not ME to support your claims.

Otherwise I'd can just say, "Google" "roesch-voltaire" and "Gay Prostitute" and see what I mean, when I say that R-V is a catamite for hire.

Joe said...

Palnin "I have protected the taxpayers by vetoing wasteful spending ... and championed reform to end the abuses of earmark spending by Congress. I told the Congress 'thanks but no thanks' for that Bridge to Nowhere."


And this is a LIE, how? So she didn't veto spending, didn't support earmark reform, or she didn't oppose the Bridge to Nowhere?

A lie would be, "I didn't have sex with that womon."

HDHouse said...

"Sarah Palin v. the 'impotent,limp and gutless'"

No way to talk about your husband Sarah. No way.

roesch-voltaire said...

Joe I am impressed by your ad hominem attack using a Latin based word, which I suspect you have more than reading knowledge of.

Synova said...

"Alaska has requested nearly $750 million in special federal spending, by far the largest per-capita request in the nation."

Curious why it's framed that way.

Why not... she requested more special federal funding than her predecessor, or any other way to put that in the correct context of what she did or didn't change once she was elected governor?

This is generally spin.

As governor, she *did* sell the gubernatorial jet. Spin? She got accused of filing the travel costs between Wasilla and Juneau incorrectly and ending with the taxpayers paying for her kids' travel when mom moved house for the legislative season. It doesn't matter at all how her spending compared to the previous governor or how much she reduced her personal expenses compared to his. What are the chances that a reimbursement for travel that included her children would be even a drip in a puddle compared to maintaining a jet aircraft? Did the previous governor ever fly his family? Or did they fly commercial and coach on his personal dime?

This is what I mean by outright dishonesty. And when you're coming on board claiming someone lies "all the time about everything" you can't afford dishonesty.

Joe said...

Well we regional university grad's have some language skills...

Sadly you world class intellects seem to lack particularly spectacular argumentation skills.

You make claims, expect US to do your work, and then whip out your "evidence" of lies...that she opposed the Bridge to Nowhere AFTER it was unpopular...that ain't a LIE, is it? And the rest of your evidence, she opposed wasteful spending and proposed earmark reform...ok that was a LIE why?

So, sorry you may be quite familiar with catamites and Environmental Engineering, but the basics of argumentation, not so much....

Stick around, don't follow HDHouse's lead and you'lll learn.

Synova said...

I suppose that what I'm saying RV, is that we all know that Alaska gets more federal funds per capita than any other state. (It also has an obscene percentage of total real estate held hostage by the feds, far far more than any other state, so I'm uncertain that I think that's unfair.)

We all know that Alaska gets more federal funds per capita than anyone else. So if you want to impress us with her dishonesty, you have to say something more than what we all know. You have to tell us how she compared, as governor, to previous ones. How did she actually perform in the area of fiscal responsibility?

Bruce Hayden said...

I liked this: The Truth about That Dishonest Vanity Fair Palin Story, from One Who Was There by Dr. Gina Loudon. For example:

"I have read a lot of MSM slime over the years, but never, ever have I felt subjected to a more jealous, petty, sophomoric, disturbed piece of ragslime than I do after reading this latest on Sarah Palin. Gross left nothing alone. He attacked her beauty, intelligence, marriage, parents, friends, family, children, ability, sincerity, honesty, faith, state, husband, home, shoes, speeches, pastor, book, job, cooking, hunting skills, supporters, church, weight, undergarments… the list goes on. I honestly cannot think of anything about her that he did not attack."

Almost all, apparently, utilizing anonymous sources. Go figure.

Synova said...

RV, Many governors get what they can get, money-wise, and Senators and Congress put special funding, ear-marks, in bills and who really says no?

But it's self-interest for a governor, any governor, to try to avoid having her hands tied as to how funds may be spent. Any governor would rather have the discretion to allocate funds where she wanted them.

So, also, you ought to show that Palin was not requesting funds where she thought they ought to go but rather in response to special interests, that she was not an improvement over her predecessor's policies.

Oligonicella said...

Sixty Grit --

WV: empust - the scab on the suppurating sore that is HD's brain.

Blea-friggin'-each! That's funny.

Oligonicella said...

Joe --

Otherwise I'd can just say, "Google" "roesch-voltaire" and "Gay Prostitute" and see what I mean, when I say that R-V is a catamite for hire.

Seven hits on Dog Pile as of 8:54PM Central.

Bruce Hayden said...

As governor, she *did* sell the gubernatorial jet. Spin? She got accused of filing the travel costs between Wasilla and Juneau incorrectly and ending with the taxpayers paying for her kids' travel when mom moved house for the legislative season. It doesn't matter at all how her spending compared to the previous governor or how much she reduced her personal expenses compared to his. What are the chances that a reimbursement for travel that included her children would be even a drip in a puddle compared to maintaining a jet aircraft? Did the previous governor ever fly his family? Or did they fly commercial and coach on his personal dime?

And maybe we should be comparing her spending on such things to the spending by Congress on themselves. On how many of them skirt, or even break, both federal laws and Congressional rules as to who pays for what, and when. What is humorous is that these ethics charges are invariably brought only against Republicans, and are almost entirely dismissed as groundless (I seem to remember that Gingrich plead out on one out of more than a hundred complaints).

Everyone remembers those expensive clothes that Gov. Palin wore during the campaign (and which were ultimately given to charity), but why was she the only woman attacked like that? Did anyone ask whether Michelle Obama had paid for every dress that she wore during the campaign (she sure doesn't these days)? And, to the extent she did, where did that money come from? From her husband's salary as a Senator? Or from her salary with the hospital that was nearly twice as much as his for being the wife of a Senator? Or the Bidens who went into politics poor, and are now relatively well off as a result of all the political money that has flowed their way due to his political power. Somehow the type of political graft and corruption that the Obamas and Bidens routinely participated in is acceptable, but wearing clothes and then donating them to charity is somehow more corrupt than Obama allowing his wife to take bribes for him (but then, how about Hillary in the Rose Law Firm while her husband was governor).

wv: moore - tempted to do so, but then likely will get a nasty message from Blogger.

Maguro said...

Oh, yeah Sarah Palin is the only politician who has ever exaggerated her accomplishments or shaded the truth in any way whatsoever. It's so shocking that I'm having the vapours and clutching my pearls simultaneously.

I am fucking outraged. Someone call Keith Olbermann.

Synova said...

Politicians generally don't get called on it unless it's something as silly as "I created the internet". But Gore actually did do something or other to implement mil.net or something, IIRC and I probably don't, and that was in fact a vital step laid in the foundations of what is the internet today. He was trying to say he was visionary on technical things and he stretched it until it snapped because no one for a moment bought the notion that *he* was responsible, even if they might have accepted that he was involved. It was an easy joke to continue to make, and it made him look silly.

The sorts of things that Palin has said don't even approach that, but like that they are generally not even exaggerations but merely simplifications. Everything has to be short and sweet in a speech and that means most of it all gets left out.

But what happens when it is Palin is that... she's strong-arming her "employees" to abide by her budget, and she finds out that one of them has been making promises of a *fiscal* nature contrary to her direction as his *boss* and rather than fire him she offers a lateral transfer to a position where he can't make fiscal promises on the side and... what is the spin? The spin is that she's vindictive and out to get him, innocent that he is.

OH MY DOG.

Really.

garage mahal said...

Palin is a .....Mama!

ADogzilla2 said...

[[Talking about reporters, thinking about dicks.]]

You mean there's a difference? Huh...

Eric said...

Having been pretty much 100 percent in the media for a couple of years now, I can tell you: most reporters are dicks.

Well, you sort of have to be, don't you? That's what struck me reading Jake Adelstein's Tokyo Vice. He spent his time schmoozing people in an effort to get them to say too much so he could print whatever it was in the paper. It was like a long string of small betrayals.

William said...

Reporters and comedians no longer compete for Pulitzers and Emmys. The highest validation of their art is a tweet insult from Palin. It's the latter day equivalent of being on Nixon's enemies' list. If you can dig up some scurrilous fact about the time she didn't shower after the game, or make some really lewd joke about one of her kids, or do anything at all to attract her visible ire, then your reputation is made. Her ire becomes the story, and the story goes on for another two weeks. There's deep analysis of why Palin's response is so inappropriate, shows why she is unfit for higher office, why this response reveals why she is a threat to our democracy, etc. etc. Thank God, we have men like David Letterman as arbiter of what's right and decent in American values and keeping us informed of Sarah's deficiencies in these regards......Palin is pretty far down on my choices for President--although, of course, she ranks higher than Obama and Biden. I don't think she's any kind of goddess. But she is patently a sympathetic, likeable, woman whose drive and political skills have taken her from a kitchen in Wassilla to the nation's center stage in a few years. When our elites go to such absurd lengths to devalue her, they mostly reveal their own lack of perspacity.

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lucid said...

Hey guys--Palin virtually just callled a male reporter dickless and has completely gotten away with it.

Actually, pretty amazing and I think it is part of the growing derision and devaluation that is now being directed a the left.

They are being effectively devalued in the way they have done to conservatives and libertarians for years.

Synova said...

Actually... I think she could have gotten away with just calling him dickless.

The thing about that, though, is that it has to be done sparingly in order to work, that sort of crude response, and it's smarter to save it up for later even if the right "later" never comes.

Americans like irreverent leaders, but it's a fine line.

Alex said...

I can see that roesch-voltair has pretty much pwned you Althouse Hillbillies as usual.

Alex said...

Look Sarah Palin is a joke intellectually speaking and a liar. How can you admit otherwise? She represents millions of hillbilly-types that are hypocritical assholes.

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Lincolntf said...

http://apnews.myway.com//article/20100903/D9I0OJP81.html

Ahhh, of course. I should've predicted this. The author slowly begins acknowledging his lies as he gets busted by people who know. Vanity Fair got their publicity, their web hits, and the ability to stop talking about Obama's failures for a few days, but in the end it's all a farce.
The MSM might as well be the WWF.

HDHouse said...

Trooper York said...
Only true political sophisticates such as our friends Cedarford and hdhouse can hate Sarah Palin almost as much as they hate the Jews."

now now TY.

1. don't ever ever ever lump me with Cedarford...that is grossly unfair and you know it. mean spirited too.

2. being partly Jewish makes me a bad candidate for hating Jews.

3. I LOVE Sarah Palin. i don't hate her at all. she is the best thing to happen to the democratic party since, gosh, Bush or eye of the Newt. NO NO NO. I want her center stage and I enjoy every laugh filled minute that she provides.

HDHouse said...

Synova said...
RV, any time I've seen a list of Palin lies or listened to HD or someone say how she's such a big liar..."

Synova...I don't think I've said that she is a big liar as much as I've noted that "the truth just isn't in her"...

roesch-voltaire said...

Joe here is another example from Sarah which I know will not sway true believers, but I pass it along anyway as you seem unable to understand she claimed to oppose the bridge, when at first she supported it, and of course her hand was out for all the govt money she could get. This has been widely reported, but here is one less so....
Palin:“There was no abuse of authority at all in trying to get Officer Wooten fired."
The RecordFor the reasons explained in section IV of this report, I find that Governor Sarah Palin abused her power by violating Alaska Statute 39.52.110(a) of the Alaska Executive Branch Ethics Act. Alaska Statute 39.52.110(a) provides The legislature reaffirms that each public officer holds office as a public trust, and any effort to benefit a personal or financial interest through official action is a violation of that trust.

lucid said...

Alex wrote:
"Look Sarah Palin is a joke intellectually speaking and a liar. How can you admit otherwise? She represents millions of hillbilly-types that are hypocritical assholes."


awwww----Alex has his cute little nose (and his limp little dick?) out of joint. For the chronically inadequate (and the sexually incompetent?), it must be bracing to feel such contempt for so many of one's fellow countrymen.

garage mahal said...

Did anyone really need a VF article to confirm what everyone already knows about this conniving grifter?

Big Mike said...

"I agree [with] Palin on overuse of unnamed sources, but calling reporters 'impotent' and 'limp'? Did she have to go there?" tweeted Howie Kurtz

Yeah, she had to go there. Otherwise the reporters wouldn't begin to get the level of contempt real people who work for a living feel towards them.

lucid said...

@Big Mike--

I agree with you. Some of this is about finally matchig the contempt that the left has been using against their betters for years.

But there is also a robust sexuality to Palin that overwhelms and terrifies effete metrosexuals like the Vanity Fair author and that makes them want to attack and destroy her. So, she is right to nail him for being limp-dicked. He probably is.

Palin, much as I don't want her to run for President, does have a sure feel for the underlying nature of political and personal issues and how the two interact.

Big Mike said...

Doug McMarlin, a spokesman for Palin's political action committee, said in a written statement Friday that the article was a "collection of lies."

"As the message continues to succeed, the messenger will continue to be attacked by yellow journalists seeking to increase sales," McMarlin said. "Our focus remains on the historic 2010 election and the brave Americans that have courageously entered the public arena to bring commonsense leadership back to our federal, state and local offices."


Yup.

Joe said...

The report, which was released by Alaska lawmakers Friday, examined whether Palin abused the powers of her office by exerting pressure to have her ex-brother-in-law, an Alaska State Trooper engaged in a bitter divorce and child custody fight with her sister, fired. After the state's public safety commissioner Walter Monegan rebuffed pressure to fire him, Monegan was fired by Palin.

The report affirmed that, as governor, she had the constitutional right to hire and fire at will, and therefore her termination of Monegan was lawful.

However, the report found that Palin, her husband Todd, and her subordinates used pressure and intimidation to try to force the firing of Michael Wooten, beginning before her swearing-in ceremony took place, and therefore broke the law.


Officer Wooten is STILL OFFICER Wooten or if he is not it is NOT because of Palin...got any other "lies."

Like "If you like your health plan you can keep it." Or "Health care reform will bend the cost curve down" or "No one making under $250,000 will see their taxes raised one dime."?

Joe said...

R-V great news, I can only find FOUR references to roesch-voltaire and gay prostitue, when I search and the bulk of them seem to be concentrated at Althouse...

As to why you seem so fascinated with Gay Prostitutes, seems odd, to me, not that there's anything wrong with that...

Any way back to you on Palin "lies." I mean you've done so well, you've demonstrated Palin is a POLITICIAN....

Of course the Nation's PREMIER Politician seems to ahve told bigger whoppers, but that doesn't seem to bother you, why is that?

Oh let's continue, "I will clsoe Guantanamo Bay within the first year of my Administration." "I will begin an IMMEDIATE withdrawl of troops from Iraq."

And that's ALL WITHOUT GOOGLE...now I'm not a World Class University but surely without the use of net bots and spiders you could come up with some LIES from Palin....Just say'n.

After all I've given YOU several "lies" from Obama...which you seem to ahve ignored/forgotten/hardly paid attention to.

garage mahal said...

Like "If you like your health plan you can keep it." Or "Health care reform will bend the cost curve down" or "No one making under $250,000 will see their taxes raised one dime."?

So tell us the health insurance you were forced to take, and tell us how much your taxes have gone up under Obama. Real curious.

Joe said...


So tell us the health insurance you were forced to take, and tell us how much your taxes have gone up under Obama. Real curious.


Starting 1 January my taxes go silly boy....

Depends if my or my Life Partner's Health Plan's meet the requirements for "qualified health plan", by 2014 about 2/3 of existing plans WON'T meet them, IIRC....assuming my or my Life Partner's companies contiue to OFFER HEALTH plans, rather than paying the fine as is cheaper....

Then there are the Medicare Part D recipeints who lose Medicare Advantage...and the folks at UPS and a number of colleges who will ose their "Mini-Med" coverage....


All this Garage from MEMORY, didn't even need to "google" it.

But thanks for play'n Obama says' Thanks dood/doodette."

garage mahal said...

Starting 1 January my taxes go silly boy....

I assume you mean "up". But from what? What federal legislation?

Depends if my or my Life Partner's Health Plan's meet the requirements for "qualified health plan", by 2014 about 2/3 of existing plans WON'T meet them, IIRC....assuming my or my Life Partner's companies contiue to OFFER HEALTH plans, rather than paying the fine as is cheaper....

So, check back in with you in 2014?

AlphaLiberal said...

Well, that's interesting. Two pieces this morning about Yellow Journalism. One on HuffPo and this one about Palin.

A meme emerging from both sides on our failed news media?

It's, of course, a hoot that Sarah Palin, she of the potency and firmness, hurls the yellow journalism charge. She is, after all, on the payroll of FoxNews/ News Corp, our modern yellow journalism empire.

It's FauxNews that pushes false stories like there is a mosque planned on Ground Zero, Saddam Hussein attacked us on 9/11, Obama is a Muslim, etc.

Surveys show FoxNews viewers are the worst-informed of all!


Damned facts!

JAL said...

@ HD 9/3/10 8:20 PM "Sarah Palin v. the 'impotent,limp and gutless'"

No way to talk about your husband Sarah. No way.

He may be a native American hick to you HD, but he has way more more class, self discipline, and cojones than you appear to have.

Do you get paid 50 cents for each post?

Joe said...

So, the fact that my taxes go up UNLESS Obama intervens is NOT raising my taxes?

So I only have to worry about things when they happen? Do you get screened for Prostate/Breast CVancer or just worry when the lumps appear or you can't pee?

Again, thanks for playing...you're not up to your usual standards.

Again starting 1` January my taxes increase, as do EVERYONE's but that's not a tx increase?

AlphaLiberal said...

Sarah Palin sure does invest a lot in her victimhood, doesn't she?

Hey, Sarah! Come down off the cross! We need the wood!

AlphaLiberal said...

Isn't it interesting that many of the Republican frontrunners for the Presidential election are on the payroll of the Yellow Journalism Giant FoxNews?

* Sarah Palin
* Mike Huckabee
* Who are the other ones?

Add to that, News Corp donated $1 Million to the Republican Governors' Association -- even though they cover gubernatorial elections!

They do all this while screaming they are being repressed.

garage mahal said...


Again starting 1` January my taxes increase, as do EVERYONE's but that's not a tx increase?


Specifically what tax are you talking about?

DADvocate said...

Surveys show FoxNews viewers are the worst-informed of all!

That's not what this survey shows but the opposite

And, this survey shows Republicans to be better informed then Dems, which explains your stupidity and lies.

Trooper York said...

Hd in the support of the Ground Zero Mosque, hatred of Sarah Palin, support of Hamas and other terrorist groups instead of our ally Isreal.....well you and Cedarford are two pea's in a pod.

The extreme right and the extreme left meet in your partnership.

Congratulations and Happy Labor Day Weekend.

Trooper York said...

Oh and I don't believe you are half Jewish.

Mick wants to see your birth certificate. Just sayn'

Fen said...

AlphaLibtard: Isn't it interesting that many of the Republican frontrunners for the Presidential election are on the payroll of the Yellow Journalism Giant FoxNews?

No. But its funny to hear Soros-funded commenters lecturing us about it!

Lots of Democrats would be "on the payroll" (LOL) of Fox News, but they're too chickenshit to appear on FOX. So instead, the are "on the payroll" of CNN, ABC, CBS, NBC. MSNBC, NYTs, Wapo, LA Times, Politico, etc etc ad naus...

garage mahal said...

Pointing out the sheer absurdity of Sarah Palin and loving Hamas goes hand in hand!

garage mahal said...

Fen is part of the Koch funded blogosphere [kochosphere]. Or, as I like to put it, the cockosphere.

Synova said...

Not even the thing with Wooten is going to play badly. For one thing, people would expect a private citizen to try to get someone fired in that situation. The feeling of helplessness over dealing with abusive authority and the desire to protect your family *resonate*.

And look... she obviously didn't bring the power of her office to bear, did she. No one who doesn't already hate her is going to look at that as an example of abuse of power since she didn't actually get him fired, they are going to see it as an example of restraint. She did what anyone would do, but she was just about as effective as anyone, any normal citizen, would be. Therefore... no abuse of power since she never brought it to bear.

I can say without hyperbole, that here in New Mexico a good percentage of the population would expect Officer Wooten to simply disappear. We're a land of enchantment... as well as unexplained and uninvestigated attempted murders of political operatives, and mesa dump sites full of police informers and prostitutes. I think that most people think that the mass graves on the mesa are due to those people being found out and killed by the criminals, but there are not a few people who are convinced that the site was a dump site for the cops themselves.

*That* is the level of trust in the real world. That is the expectation of the power available to powerful people.

The worst anyone can find on Palin is so clean it squeaks.

Fen said...

Libtard: Or, as I like to put it, the cockosphere.

Yes, we get that your are still infatuated with our cocks. And no, you still cant suck our balls.

Fen said...

part of the Koch funded blogosphere

Isn't it amusing how the Libtards are already parroting the latest propganda campaign? Orders have come down that FOX is networking a "vast right wing conspiracy", and that all Dem failures on this economy should be blamed on Bush (thats the Dem plan to keep the House).

And here they are, our little libtard trolls, just clocking in.

AlphaLiberal said...

Huh. Althouse didn't even provide a link to the explosive Vanity Fair story that Palin is attacking.

There is a lot of use of anonymous sources in modern journalism. It's not unique to The Martyr Palin.

However, she is known to be vengeful and vindictive, as the story points out. That is probably why a number of people chose to be anonymous, out of fear of the fake hunter.

Popular as she may be with the right wing, she is increasingly unpopular with the American public.

So, yeah, Palin 2012!

Joe said...

Jeebus Garage are you just being dense, MY INCOME TAXES INCREASE come 1 January...if I'm in the lower bracket they increase by 50%!!!!

Then there are my capital gains taxes will almost DOUBLE, but other than that you're right my taxes will remain the same....SHEESH!

garage mahal said...

Yes, we get that your are still infatuated with our cocks. And no, you still cant suck our balls.

Ok Fen. So how much did Master Koch pay you post that? Do you get paid with a Koch Rewards Card?

AlphaLiberal said...

Oh, and look, Little Green Footballs reports Todd Palin pals around with White Supremacist Blogger.

Well, that looks interesting. This is the same Todd Palin who supported/supports Alaskan secession.

What an American! Wave that flag!

garage mahal said...

wow, when you've lost LITTLE GREEN FOOTBALLS, you know you've gone off the deep end.

AlphaLiberal said...

Joe, the Democratic proposal is to replace the Bush tax cuts, which so overwhelmingly favored the rich and super-rich, with new Democratic tax cuts that will cut taxes more if you make less than $200,000.

See this great chart at Washington Post. It does a great job of laying out the differences.

So what's the problem? You want a lower tax cuts so the rich can pocket more?

AlphaLiberal said...

Fen:

and that all Dem failures on this economy should be blamed on Bush

The economy was in a tailspin when Bush left office, with monthly job losses reaching over half a million. Obama has staunched the bleeding, but with Republican demands that we continue Bush policies, not enough has been done.

Bush's appointees to the Federal Reserve Board of Governors continue to oppose robust Fed action, saying "wait, wait..."

Republicans want the American economy to remain weak and are fighting efforts to improve, like the stimulus, which business economists credit with pulling us out of a recession.

AlphaLiberal said...

BTW, weren't you guys blaming Clinton well into Bush's 2nd term, for things that went wrong under Bush?

Tell us what would Republicans do differently than Bush if they were given power again?

Nothing. They'll promise spending cuts, of course. So did Bush.

Joe said...

Alpha
1) It's a PLAN, not a law...and if they can't carry out their PLAn my taxes increase...
2) Many Sub-Chapter S corporations and other small to medium busineeses file as INDIVIDUALS...making thier "income" taxable under your PLAN...meaning that the folks who provide the bul of employment and innovation are facing tax increases.
3) Capital Gains Taxes aren't mendtioned are they? So any gains I make on the amrket are now taxed at nearly DOUBLE their current rate.

4) Lastly these are tax CREDITS, not cuts...so IF I don't follow Congress' idea I don't get a tax break do I?

Nice try Alpha...you've done better than Garage.

Joe said...

R-V if you can stop associating yourself witht he Catamites, could you provide me with some more Palin lies"?

BJM said...

I may be just a dim-witted Althouse hillbilly...but I don't understand why the left and media doesn't just ignore Palin?

Why give her the platform? The media is creating a David to their Goliath.

It's pretty amazing that Palin using only twitter and facebook has gathered a sizable following, and seized the momentum from a vast media complex that enables her to drive news buzz for days on end.

No one could afford the media coverage Palin enjoys for the price of a few minutes on a keyboard.

The left & the media are being played like a cheap fiddle...somewhat awkwardly ...but played never the less.

BJM said...

@Joe

Exactly.

S Corps and the expiring Bush tax cuts...the inconvenient truth behind Obama's tax pledge...that depress employment even further and push more family owned businesses into bankruptcy.


@Al

Charles Johnson? Really?

Buhwahahahah!!!

FAIL.

Corky Boyd said...

Most often it's best not being on the defensive. Don't play journalistic ethics on their playing field. Just lob an insult of your own at the practioners of shoddy work.

They got the message.

Synova said...

Oh for pete's sake AL. I knew before I looked that Charles's "white supremacist blogger" was Stacy McCain. It serves McCain's purposes to let Charles beclown himself with the accusation but it has about as much legitimacy as does Sullivan's obsession with Palin's uterus.

Trooper York said...

Even an economic illiterate like AlphaLiberal should know that small business owners almost always have a Subchapter S or LLC. Their income is taxed on their personal returns using the personal income tax rate. Thus their income will rise above the $200,000 magic threshold that Obama likes to lie about.

Now this income might really just be a paper profit, i.e.: they don’t have the cash because they plowed the money back into the business. That would allow them to hire more people or to increase their inventory or do other things to expand and grow. By imposing a confiscatory tax burden on these small businesses, they are doing even more damage to an already tottering economy.

The people this will impact are not the guys on Wall St who get big bonuses and inflated compensation packages. Their income is all W-2 and stock options. It will impact the small family business in a very serious way. Between Federal, State, City and Social Security taxes, most taxpayers in New York City are approaching a 60% effective tax rate if you earn more than $150,000And of course that doesn’t count eal estate tax or sin taxes or the other little nit- picky shit they tack on when they think you are not looking.

That’s not Donald Trump. That’s a cop and his wife a nurse. A bus driver and a school teacher. And the small business man with a working spouse. The people that Obama and the Democrats lie about when they say they want to help the middle class. But they don’t. They want to redistribute the income to make it fair.

Tax and spend. Tax and spend. Tax and Spend. Tax and Spend. Tax and Spend. Tax and Spend. Tax and Spend. Tax and Spend

Synova said...

From 1993... "SEATTLE, July 23— Gov. Walter J. Hickel of Alaska, who was elected as a candidate of a party that advocated seceding from the union, filed a lawsuit against the Federal Government today, charging that the United States has violated the terms of statehood and deprived the state of its ability to raise revenue.

The $29 billion suit, which Alaska officials say is the largest ever filed by a state against the Government, is the loudest broadside yet in Mr. Hickel's continuing battle with the Federal Government. In the last year, he has stepped up his criticism, accusing the Government of treating Alaska, the nation's biggest state, like a distant colony.
"

The article goes on to state that Hickel was also the second governor of Alaska. Statehood is a living memory for a great number of Alaskans, and who can avoid understanding that the federal government controls and hamstrings economic development while piss and moaners like AL and others fuss about Alaska's unfair share of federal funds and think it's a zinger to point out Todd's past affiliation with anti-fed secessionists... presumably much like the one who was elected and served as governor in 1993. NOT a fringe extremist.

And the thing of it is, this "zinger" of the anti-patriot, Todd, is actually only a "zinger" to the Statist sorts who want to give their whole lives over to the Feds. In other words... leftists.

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Synova said...

Lesse... we've gone through "Federal funds to Alaska" and "Trooper Wooten" and even "The Politics of Todd" so what is left... I think we could just skip Palin's uterus this round so...

Levi was a horny high school jock that still acts his age and Bristol is going on Dancing with the Stars.

Oh Noes!!

Or did someone already mention those things and I just filtered out the repetitive noise of it.

Trooper York said...

So what is the solution?
Well they can limit the tax on small business income. Much like they do on capital gains. Tax it at a maximum of let’s say 25%. The government gets it’s bite but the entrepreneur can still have a chance to grow and create jobs.
At one time there was no limit on the tax rate on earned compensation. So there was a effective rate of up to 70% or 80% on highly compensated individuals.

John Wayne once had a memorable diatribe on how it wasn’t worth working to earn more money when the government would get 80% of it. So he turned down many offers to make great movies. I mean we missed out on North to Alaska Two, Return of the War Wagon and Hatari2-This time it is Personal.

What happened is they put a limit of a maximum of 50% rate on earned income. Thus limiting the tax on earnings which would encourage people to earn more because they can keep more. Otherwise you are just working for the government. At a certain point it is not worth it.

They can do the same thing with small business income. If they really meant what they say. But they don't. Small business is just here to be fleeced to pay for more government programs and public employees and their union benefits.

BJM said...

@Synova

AL evoked a modified Godwin's when he cited Johnson and thusly lost the thread.

Speaking of grossly dishonest journalist hackery.

roesch-voltaire said...

Joe you keep returning to certain topics-- is there something you want to tell us?

Über said...

HDHouse said...

3. I LOVE Sarah Palin. i don't hate her at all. she is the best thing to happen to the democratic party since, gosh, Bush or eye of the Newt. NO NO NO. I want her center stage and I enjoy every laugh filled minute that she provides.



That's because you believe that Palin is the caricature the left has made of her. You think she really did say she could see Russia from her house. You believe she is identical to Tina Fey's lampooning of her.

The thing is though...she's not. So be careful what you wish for... you just might get it. Then the laugh will be on you.

lucid said...

I think it is hilarious how upset the lefties get about Palin. Just look at the energy they have put into atacj=king her on this thread.

She drives them nuts. Or, I guess I should say she drives them nuttier.

But the lefties get absolutely unhinged about her. It is actually quite amusing.

Joe said...

roesch-voltaire What I want to reveal is you got a whole lot of NOTHING, and like to be:
1) Lazy; and
2) Superior to those who catch you in your lazy argumentation.

Your BEST response to my taunts would have been to have produced some OUTRIGHT LIES, you kow like the ones I've pointed out, without the benefit of Google, from the current administration. Instead you just wallow around in a feeble attempt to shift blame, make jokes, whatever.

Anyway, find some of those lies, would you? I'll see what Google can produce on roesch-voltaire and other subjects.