April 1, 2006

Thousands of mistakes in Iraq and holes in Blackburn, Lancashire.

Condi, beset in Britain.

UPDATE: More here:
She gave several interviews to the British press, and almost every one was dominated by questions about her rough reception.

"People can say whatever they wish," she told The Lancashire Evening Telegraph. "I know where I stand. We made the right decision" in Iraq. "I was fully supportive of the decision."

During the news conference in Blackburn on Saturday, the boos and jeers rose to greet the secretaries as they spoke. Referring to the protesters at one point, Ms. Rice said, "They make my point. A democracy is the only system of government that allows people to be heard peacefully."
What poise. What nerves of steel. Tell me again why she wouldn't be capable of handling presidential campaigning.

24 comments:

Gaius Arbo said...

This is journalism? Yeesh.

Gerry said...

Now she knows how many holes it takes to fill the Albert Hall.

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I can always fill in the gaps in your pop music knowledge, for a nominal fee, Secretary Rice.

Sissy Willis said...

I happened to catch Condi's brilliant speech in a C-Span rerun in the wee hours . . . She got it just right, but her audience is too much into their hatred of GW to hear:

What do I mean by "liberal" democracy? Well, first of all, I mean capital "L" in Liberal, as in Liberalism, the theory of politics that took shape in the minds of Englishmen like Thomas Hobbes, and John Locke, and even a Scot or two, like Adam Smith. The ideas of Liberalism were, of course, later refined and applied and written into the American Constitution by men like Hamilton, and Jefferson and Madison. And all of these individuals were trying, in their own way, to solve one of history's oldest quandaries: How can individuals with different interests, and different backgrounds, and different religious beliefs, live together peacefully and avoid the evil extremes of politics: civil war and tyranny, or as they would have said, the state of nature or the oppression of the state?

In their answer to this question, the theorists of Liberalism transformed politics forever. They declared that all human beings possessed equal dignity and certain natural rights -- among these, the right to live in liberty, to enjoy security, to own property and to worship as they pleased. These universal rights, established and embodied in institutions and enshrined in law, would then establish the principled limits on state power. But that was not all. They had another equally bold idea: For government to be truly legitimate, they argued, it had to be blessed by the consent of the governed.

But don't try to confuse the BDS (Bush Derangement Syndrome) sufferers with the facts.

Chris said...

One of the theories I operate under is that as the options narrow as 2006 progresses and the hideously stunted nature of the Republican field (okay, with the exception of Rudy and McCain...) makes itself apparent, the simple brilliance of the passages like the one that sissy willis quoted will lead the Republican Party, and then the nation, to only one individual for the Presidency.

The wails of the Bush-hating brownshirts and the jihadi sympathizers notwithstanding, there's really only one choice for Bush's successor: Condi Rice. She handled Jack Straw's walking catastrophe with grace, charm, class, wit, and good humor. Every day she proves to me, and to the nation, that she's got what it takes to handle the thermonuclear arsenal of the United States.

Or, we can vote for Hillary, whose idea of soaring rhetoric is to tell us that Republicans want to throw Jesus into prison.

Ruth Anne Adams said...
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Ann Althouse said...

Ruth Anne: I thought of the same comparison. Maybe she's faked her interest in the Beatles, but it's possible that she's not lyrics focused. She's a musician herself, and there's a lot to the Beatles besides the lyrics.

CB said...

What a joke. I'm not sure what the political stance of E&P is, but that they see fit to report this detail of this trip can only be a sign of bias.
All those interested, please read this article on "Condimania" in England: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/04/02/nrice02.xml&sSheet=/news/2006/04/02/ixnewstop.html
By the way, I am a huge Beatles fan, and I always thought it was "Blackbird Lancashire."
Also, can someone tell me how to put a hyperlink in a comment? Thanks.

CB said...

What a joke. I'm not sure what the political stance of E&P is, but that they see fit to report this detail of this trip can only be a sign of bias.
All those interested, please read this article on "Condimania" in England: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/04/02/nrice02.xml&sSheet=/news/2006/04/02/ixnewstop.html
By the way, I am a huge Beatles fan, and I always thought it was "Blackbird Lancashire."
Also, can someone tell me how to put a hyperlink in a comment? Thanks.

CB said...

oops, sorry about the double post.

Bruce Hayden said...

CB,

The way to insert hyperlinks is to use anchor (a) HTML tags. The probelem with using HTML to describe HTML is to keep it from being interpreted as such. But, hopefully, the following is a link to Ann's blog: <a
href="http://althouse.blogspot.com/">http://althouse.blogspot.com/</a> which should look like this:
http://althouse.blogspot.com/

Bruce Hayden said...

My example for creating an HTML anchor seems to have worked, but you will probably have to scroll to the right on the one line to see the whole thing.

Just remember, that all the relevant HTML elements have a starting HTML tag (<a>) and a matching ending HTML tag ( </a>). In the anchor (<a>) tag, the HREF parameter is the URL of the link, and the text between the starting and ending tags is what is displayed as the name of the link (usually in another color).

me said...

She would make a great president, if you want our foreign policy to continue to be more ineffective then when we invaded Vietnam. The war in Iraq was the most idiotic decision by any government since Germany invaded Poland.

The war is bankrupting our country. Putting our troops in Baghdad made it logistically impossible to place any pressure on Iran. (All Iran has to do is bomb Baghdad to take out a large part of our military.)

Abraham said...

The war in Iraq was the most idiotic decision by any government since Germany invaded Poland

That is the most hyperbolic statement uttered by anyone anywhere, ever.

CB said...

Thanks, Bruce, here goes:
Here is the article I mentioned above--highly recommended.

PatCA said...

Maybe Condi is a fan but not obsessed enough to know the lyrics of every garbled, shouted, growled rock song. Good thing they didn't ask her about Louie, Louie.

PatCA said...

Oh, and here's an article (equally silly but at least flattering) about how everyone's going gaga over her.

The press seems determined to keep her on the women's page...er, the lifestyle page, no?

Ann Althouse said...

PatCa: But the thing about Sgt. Pepper was that it was the first album (or the first conspicuous one) to print the lyrics on the cover. If you were there at the time and a Beatles fan, you read the lyrics. (And then talked way too much about what they meant.)

Aspasia M. said...

The war in Iraq was the most idiotic decision by any government since Germany invaded Poland.


I agree with me,(love that phrase) but I'd cross out Poland and add three words. Thus:

The war in Iraq was the most idiotic decision by any government since Germany invaded the Soviet Union.

or maybe "since Napolean invaded Russia."

Winters in Russia - a bad idea for armies.

PatCA said...

I did read the lyrics, but time has done its damage. :)

MadisonMan said...

That is the most hyperbolic statement uttered by anyone anywhere, ever.


Well, it was the most hyperbolic, for about 13 minutes :)

Chris said...

geoduck2 said, en passant:

The war in Iraq was the most idiotic decision by any government since Germany invaded the Soviet Union.

or maybe "since Napolean invaded Russia.


Aside from being outrageously hyperbolic, that last statement was mindnumbingly ignorant of the scale of the Russo-German War of 1941-1945. It is a measure of the intellectual provincialism that American liberalism encourages that the Iraq campaign is compared to Stalingrad, Okinawa, or Guadalcanal. The latter two campaigns were American battles in which several tens of thousands of Americans were killed or wounded in the space of a few short months. The former, Stalingrad, was an apocalyptic battle in which our casualties in Iraq were being matched per day in a mutual bloodbath between the Wehrmacht and the Red Army.

On a tangent, Ann correctly points out that Condi can surely take the cut and thrust of a campaign. Personally, I'm not buying the backstory that she'll accept the VP slot because she doesn't want to go through the 2 year rope trick routine. I think there's something else going on. And I suspect that I and many others resent the way the Secretary was treated, as if she were the enemy, in Blackburn over the weekend.

Yes, she can easily handle a demo. That doesn't make what was said to her right or proper. Sometimes the demos against her swelled up to 1500, and the natives treated her as if she was Heydrich or something.

Townleybomb said...

Don't know if Condi will run in 2008, but damn don't ya wish the current guy actually stood up to the protesters himself like this?

In re: how many holes it takes to fill the Albert hall, I am glad to actually know where Blackburn, Lancanshire is. Greetings to everyone in Blackburn!

Hyygasdk: Finnish sister city of Blackburn, Lancanshire, along with Lowell, Massachusetts and Toyooka, Hyogo prefecture.

Thorley Winston said...

What poise. What nerves of steel. Tell me again why she wouldn't be capable of handling presidential campaigning.

I haven’t heard or read anyone suggesting that she would not be capable of campaigning. The criticism that I have heard is about Secretary Rice that someone running for president ought to have prior executive experience or have held some other elective office.

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