December 7, 2020

"He was entranced by fire — with a real-estate agent recalling seeing an estimated 1,000 candles in Hsieh’s Park City, Utah, home..."

"'[He] explained to me that the candles were a symbol of what life was like in a simpler time'.... The quirky entrepreneur... also liked to use a heater in his girlfriend’s shed to decrease his oxygen level, sources told the media outlet. Hsieh also inhaled nitrous oxide, or laughing gas, a k a whippets, to try to decrease his oxygen use.... But playing with his oxygen intake was only one part of Hsieh’s manipulation of his body. Hsieh would go on a 26-day alphabet diet, in which he would only eat foods starting with a single letter each day, such as 'a' the first 24 hours, 'b' the second, and so on, nearly fasting by the letter 'z'.... He got down to 100 pounds at one point.... Hsieh also would see how long he could go without urinating.... A pal told the Journal that Hsieh was like 'the Giving Tree' — the selfless character in the Shel Silverstein kiddie classic that gives so much of itself that it is left with nothing."


The Giving Tree was giving — sacrificing to provide the boy with benefits. Hsieh's sacrifices did not give anyone else anything but merely pared away from the person making the sacrifices. You'll have to imagine an alternative children's book called "The Giving Up Tree." 

Even in "The Giving Tree," we question whether the tree — that is, the person represented by the tree — should have given everything. Shouldn't the boy — at some point — have learned about giving from the tree and become a giver himself? Shouldn't he have given back

But "The Giving Up Tree" is not going to become a children's classic. Decreasing oxygen intake, resisting peeing, eating quince and quinoa on the 17th day of a highly conceptual diet. 

Well, I admit that alphabet books are popular with children. Maybe there already is a book that begins "On the first day, X ate applesauce and angel hair pasta...." and ends "On the 27th day, he was dead."

Oh! I know where I got that line. I was given "Struwwelpeter" when I was a child, and I remember "The Story of Augustus, Who Would Not Have Any Soup":
Augustus was a chubby lad; 
Fat ruddy cheeks Augustus had: 
And everybody saw with joy 
The plump and hearty, healthy boy. 
He ate and drank as he was told, 
And never let his soup get cold. 
But one day, one cold winter's day, 
He screamed out "Take the soup away! 
O take the nasty soup away! 
I won't have any soup today." 

Next day, now look, the picture shows 
How lank and lean Augustus grows! 
Yet, though he feels so weak and ill, 
The naughty fellow cries out still 
"Not any soup for me, I say: 
O take the nasty soup away! 
I won't have any soup today." 

The third day comes: Oh what a sin! 
To make himself so pale and thin. 
Yet, when the soup is put on table, 
He screams, as loud as he is able, 
"Not any soup for me, I say: 
O take the nasty soup away! 
I WON'T have any soup today."  

Look at him, now the fourth day's come! 
He scarcely weighs a sugar-plum; 
He's like a little bit of thread, 
And, on the fifth day, he was—dead! 
Go to the "Struwwelpeter" link to see the illustrations of the rapid weight loss that befalls anorexic Augustus. And look for the also-relevant "Dreadful Story of Harriet and the Matches":
...But Harriet would not take advice: 
She lit a match, it was so nice! 
It crackled so, it burned so clear— 
Exactly like the picture here. 
She jumped for joy and ran about 
And was too pleased to put it out....

"Struwwelpeter" is a powerfully memorable book. It was written — in German — in 1835 — by a psychiatrist.  

Would you give that to your sweet little child? Is it more or less dangerous than "The Giving Tree"? 

I wonder what books influenced Tony Hsieh. 

He, himself wrote a book, "Delivering Happiness." It was a best-seller in its time. Who will read it now? Here's a 1-star review at Amazon, written before Hsieh's untimely death:

For full transparency I only read the first third of this book before I took it to Goodwill. I just couldn't take anymore. It's written at a very low educational level which goes to show, you don't really need brains to be rich or even be a billionaire, what your really really must have is Luck and a lot of it....

Even when you have a lot of luck, you can run out. 

51 comments:

mockturtle said...

In other words, he was a nut case.

Ann Althouse said...

He was mentally ill. Mentally ill and very rich. It's a deadly combination.

Laslo Spatula said...

Mentally ill and very poor is a deadly combination, too.

At least when you are rich you can die surrounded by the ambience of candles, rather than under a bridge overpass amidst the stench of urine.

I am Laslo.

Temujin said...

It's a sad story. He was so clearly ill, from comments you read from his friends. They all saw it. Yet when you're rich, you are given a lot of room to be wrong. You are enabled because you must know.

I'd never heard of "Struwwelpeter". What a wonderful book. Though I'm not sure I'd share it with my grandkids. I love the stories and drawings, however. And, it was good to see that Black-O-Moor lives mattered, even back then.

Interesting that your folks gave you that book. I'm of the same age. My folks gave me a towel and a plastic bag to play with.

Tacitus said...

I've read Struhwelpeter. I don't consider myself a shrinking violet but its messed up stuff. Basic message: Children who misbehave in specific ways incur horrific and offense specific injuries.

I'm not sure if this is unique to German kultur or whether it is just carried over generally from times and places where morality, infant mortality and workplace injury/death was common. It does parallel the sort of thing my grandmother (born circa 1900) would run out to scare us lads on visits to the family farm in the 1960's. The milder material dealt with "Black Peter" and his tendency to bring sticks and rocks to children who misbehaved. As I assume we were doing just prior to this dark homily.

Odd that some of this stuff has resurfaced in popular culture (or are we back to Kultur?). Krampus themed Christmas stories. Even Edward Scissorhands has a Struhwelpeter vibe to it but Tim Burton claims original inspiration. Maybe he also had a frightening granny....

TW

Tim said...

mockturtle gets it in one.

Laslo Spatula said...

What is sad is that he could afford the best help available.

What is sadder is that even the best 'help' available is often ineffectual, side-effect-laden and numbing.

But everyone else feels better if you say you are taking your meds. Which is nice.

I am Laslo.

rhhardin said...

He's a phlogiston addict.

Laslo Spatula said...

There is at least ONE anti-depressant Not To Be Named that can have the side-effect of making it extremely difficult to reach orgasm.

Like, you can have sex for hours but can't come, dammit: a Viagra with No Happy Ending.

Ha Ha etc etc.

It actually gets traded amongst people in the know.

I am Laslo.

Laslo Spatula said...

What is ironic (at least in the Alanis sense) is that some of the Old School meds do better than the new meds.

But the side effects can be awful.

So the new meds lower some of the side effects, but lower the effectiveness, too.

The tail never seems to quite get pinned to the donkey.

I am Laslo.

RK said...

Does a rib-eye steak fall under r, s, b, m or all four?

Sally327 said...

A Howard Hughes for our time. Apparently Hsieh also died intestate, or so everyone thinks. But who knows, maybe there's a Will in the archives at LDS headquarters in Salt Lake City just waiting to be discovered.

Las Vegas, not a place for someone with mental health issues. But then Connecticut wasn't either apparently.

Wade Phillips said...

I love these types of Althouse posts! This reminded me of The Office when Dwight sings a song he learned as a child "Learn your rules. You better learn your rules. If you don't, you'll get eaten in your sleep (CHOMP)!" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3a5azcHLBY

I've read some of Brothers Grimm' (Brothers Grimm's?) fairy tales, there's some pretty dark stuff in there too. On the other end of the spectrum, some kiddie show my 5-yr olds were watching last week involved a T-Rex breaking his ankle and oh, the other characters felt so bad about it and did everything they could to help that poor T-Rex.

My boys also love Santiago of the Seas, the pirate-themed kids show. Catch phrases include something about Pirate's Honor and Pirates Always Do What's Right. That's insane!

Kids used to die almost immediately if they didn't eat their soup, now the quintessential apex predator is a sympathetic charity case and pirates are the good guys.

Ralph L said...

Now I know where Edward Gorey got his ideas.

My middle name is Augustus, and I was a chubby baby who grew to 6'2" and 120 lbs at 16.

Lucien said...

There's only so much za'atar a grown man can consume in a day. (Especially after yams the day before).

On the other hand, if ordering from Zabar's counts . .

Danno said...

Emulating Howard Hughes, as Sally327 said above.

Howard said...

It's very very difficult to get help for someone deep in the grip of mental illness. It's one of those negative externalities living in a western liberal democracy that values individual autonomy.

Can we safely say Hsieh died doing what he loved? Should people be allowed to live their dreams even if they are in fact nightmares?

Living and working in Santa Cruz for 30-years, every day one would encounter every type of crazy person imaginable on the streets. Without fail, they always looked both ways before crossing the street. Perfectly sane Millennial UCSC students seemed oblivious to traffic.

Joe Smith said...

"It was written — in German..."

Of course it was : )

As for lowering his oxygen levels, wouldn't 1,000 candles suck a lot of oxygen out of the room (shed)?

I hate to say that I 'understand' the guy, but part of me does understand the obsessive-compulsive nature of the diet. It's like, once you've made up your mind about something, you must stick with it and take it to an extreme.

Years ago I thought I was drinking too much soda. Instead of drinking less, I made it a point to never drink soda for ten years.

It made sense at the time.

DavidUW said...

Nothing good except organic chemistry, the printing press and some music has come out of Germany.
I'd especially avoid any philosophies and political movements.

Ralph L said...

What about Naturism?

MD Greene said...

Hsieh was raised in Marin County, where our family spent several years. None of this sounds strange to me.

Freeman Hunt said...

Ha! I would read "Struwwelpeter" to my kids. It's not any more disturbing than the fairy tales and myths they've read, and it's funny.

I won't read The Giving Tree though. I hated that book as a child. The tree should've whacked the kid with a branch for being impertinent. That would have been a different book! A sort of Struwwelpeter-ian version.

Balfegor said...

I read that and thought, "Struwwelpeter? Isn't that Hilaire Belloc's Cautionary Tales for Children?" But no, I guess that's what Belloc was satirising . . .

Laslo Spatula said...

"Hilaire Belloc's Cautionary Tales for Children?"

My brain quick-scanned that as 'Tales for Precautionary Children.'

Which could be a book, right there.

I am Laslo.

Rosalyn C. said...

When I saw a photo of the "shed" he was living in -- an add on to the building suitable for garden tools, that really made me sad. He was living that miserable way because what he was doing was not acceptable to the normal humans he was living with. No doubt he had a chemical imbalance which he made worse through his diet and drug use. He was a suicide waiting to happen.

A long time ago a friend and I were practicing some very limited diets for yogic purposes, but our aim was health and spiritual advancement and the diet was healthy. What Hsieh was doing was nihilistic.

If there is one positive to take out of his actions, Hsieh's final gift to the rest of the world: Money does not guarantee happiness.

Roughcoat said...

A discussion of Bruno Bettleheim's "The Uses of Enchantment" might be apropos at this juncture.

mikee said...

Willie found some dynamite.
Couldn't understand it, quite.
Curiosity never pays;
It rained Willie seven days.

What is red and goes round and round? A dead baby in a blender.

Little Willies are the precursors to the 1960s Dead Baby Jokes.
Hsieh jokes seem to follow naturally from these.
When the needs of great commentary literature arise, I CTRL F Laslo.

Jokah Macpherson said...

Zucchini. Ziti.

Jokah Macpherson said...

“ Nothing good except organic chemistry, the printing press and some music has come out of Germany.”

Gauss.

Fernandinande said...

Mentally ill and very rich. It's a deadly combination.

Second in deadliness only to mentally ill and not rich.

Ann Althouse said...

"Interesting that your folks gave you that book. I'm of the same age. My folks gave me a towel and a plastic bag to play with."

My aunt sent it to me as a gift. She was living in Germany at the time.

Ann Althouse said...

Of course, my parents didn't intervene and say it wasn't appropriate. There was absolutely no instance in my entire life when either of my parents told me — even in the mildest possible way — that I shouldn't read something and no reading material was ever taken away.

As I've said many times, when I was growing up in the 50s and 60s, at our house, Playboy was on the coffee table along with Life and Look.

Joe Smith said...

"...Playboy was on the coffee table along with Life and Look."

'Look' at the tits, it's 'Life.'

But I'm certain your dad read it, as did mine, for the articles : )

Ann Althouse said...

"Now I know where Edward Gorey got his ideas."

Ah! I had meant to include Gorey in the post. I was thinking about his alphabet comics: "A is for Amy who fell down the stairs. B is for Basil assaulted by bears. C is for Clara who wasted away. D is for Desmond thrown out of a sleigh..."

Ann Althouse said...

"Z" isn't actually hard. You could get fat on ziti alone. Round it out with zucchini and Zesta saltines. For dessert: Zingers!

Ann Althouse said...

"I read that and thought, "Struwwelpeter? Isn't that Hilaire Belloc's Cautionary Tales for Children?" But no, I guess that's what Belloc was satirising . . ."

"Struwwelpeter" is older, but Belloc's book looks great and I can see that Edward Gorey did his own set of illustrations for it.

todd galle said...

Thanks Ralph L. for mentioning E. Gorey. I bought 3 copies of his Amphigorey and Amphigorey II volumes and a bunch of frames over a period of time, with the aim of slicing out pages and framing them to switch out in our bathrooms and up at the cabin. He was an amazing talent.

Scott Patton said...

"really must have is Luck and a lot of it...."
There is no such thing as luck. The odds of the universe favor no one. Different things happen to different people at different times. Focusing on any subset of those things and calling it luck to make a point, seems to be a strawman-ish fallacy.

Tim DeRoche said...

Our five-year-old *loves* Struwwelpeter. She likes Belloc and the Gashly Crumb Tinies by Gorey, but Struwwelpeter seems to be in a special category.

Ann Althouse said...

The Belloc book can be read in full here at Project Gutenberg. With the original illustrations.

Mikey NTH said...

"Would you give that to your sweet little child? Is it more or less dangerous than "The Giving Tree"?"


Putting to sea in a wooden shoe would also be dangerous, so no Winken, Blinken, and Nod for anyone. We're surrounded by dangers, it seems, if we take things to absurdity.

Laslo Spatula said...

Not hard to hear "The Story of Augustus, Who Would Not Have Any Soup" sung by the Dylan in your head.

The harder part is listening to the harmonica solo.

I am Laslo.

Jokah Macpherson said...

Complemented nicely by Zinfandel.

Joe Smith said...

"The Story of Augustus, Who Would Not Have Any Soup"

No soup for him?

A while back I saw soup-in-a-box at the grocery store.

It had a picture of the Soup Nazi on it.

It was called 'Soup For You.'

Clever.

madAsHell said...

I’ve a front row seat watching mental illness.

Nobody makes plans to enter treatment!

This is analogous to the he-was-just-turning-his-life-around. Complete bullshit.

hired man said...

The book is not Struwwelpeter—it’s Strummelpeter! Original auf Deutsch.

Ralph L said...

I didn't realize there are four Amphigorey books. I have the first two.

Narr said...

I was wondering when my man Ogdred Weary would come up.

Narr
Took long enough

ken in tx said...

Don't know why Laslo is being so coy. Lexapro is the anti-depressant and Mellaril an anti-psychotic both have the same sexual effect. Which one does he take?

Bunkypotatohead said...

He don't care too much for money...

madAsHell said...

Which one does he take?

I'm guessin'.........Yes!!