May 28, 2018

"Is Acne Cool Now?/How celebrities and influencers are changing the stigma of having acne."

My favorite headline of the last few weeks... at the NYT. The column is by Andrea Cheng.
“I was ashamed of my acne because of the shame people would place on it,” [said Hailey Wait, an 18-year-old student]. Her acne affected her self-esteem, prompting her to raid the Walgreens makeup aisle for cover-ups, even if they did little but aggravate her skin condition.

Seven months ago, she had had enough, and instead of hiding behind cheap foundation or highly edited selfies, she did the opposite: She revealed her blemishes to her 15,000 followers on Instagram for the first time.
Here is the lovely, acne-proud Hailey Wait, in what I'm thinking of calling the best social-media influencing I have every seen — best and most beneficial:

A post shared by Hailey Wait 🌙 (@pigss) on


So much of Instagram is women using way too much makeup. I love this leaning so far in the other direction.
And now, in the latest wrinkle, celebrities have joined the skin-positivity cause, with Justin Bieber (who recently posted on his Instagram Story that “pimples are in”), Kendall Jenner, Lili Reinhart, Lucy Hale and SZA openly embracing their acne.
It gets real and then it gets really funny. A sweet teenager does something cool and she's real and then the fake people jump on board. I'm real too!

60 comments:

tcrosse said...

Face it. Everybody loves Pizza.

Heartless Aztec said...

The early 70's return. I guess I stood still long enough.

Darrell said...

Nudity works, too.

Ignorance is Bliss said...

So much of Instagram is women using way too much makeup. I love this leaning so far in the other direction.


And this is a picture of someone not using way too much makeup?!? Okay, she didn't use makeup to cover up one particular issue. What about the rest of her face?

Balfegor said...

Eh, and I just started taking facial skin care seriously . . . started using this FANCL all-in-one gel, a moisturizing sunscreen from time to time, and PRID homeopathic goop for when I develop any kind of inflammation on the face at all. It's actually started to even out my skin tone and improve the roughness of my skin, although I'm a long, long way away from having "good" skin.

Acne is just unpleasant, apart from looking unsightly. It can hurt! It's all very well to accept that it's there and not feel like you have to hide it (or hide yourself) when you've got it, but people should try and treat it where possible. Also, weren't we just staring at an awful zoom-in on some blemish on Trump's face?

Freeman Hunt said...

Hardly ever see kids with severr acne anymore. Treatment must have improved.

Loren W Laurent said...

From Wiki:

"The Rocori High School shooting was a school shooting that occurred at Rocori High School on September 24, 2003 in Cold Spring, Minnesota, United States.The shooter was identified as Rocori High freshman John Jason McLaughlin,[2] who shot and killed 15-year-old freshman Seth Bartell and 17-year-old senior Aaron Rollins. Prior to the shooting, McLaughlin was described as a "quiet and withdrawn" student with severe acne...

On September 24, 2003, McLaughlin arrived at school with a loaded Colt .22-caliber handgun with the intention of killing Bartell, whom McLaughlin claimed bullied him over his acne..."

Big Mike said...

Acne is not cool and never will be cool. Slathering on heavy makeup with a putty knife to cover acne (and arguably make it worse) has become less cool than the acne itself, that’s all.

MikeD said...

So she's decided to join The Patriarchy? Male teens have suffered from acne since time immemorial w/o the hide it under makeup option.

Fernandinande said...

"This is another example of Sailer’s Law of Female Journalism: The most heartfelt articles by female journalists tend to be demands that social values be overturned in order that, Come the Revolution, the journalist herself will be considered hotter-looking."

Robert Cook said...

To the media, everything is either a “stigma” or “cool.” Ridiculous!

Wince said...

Next step is to go into pimple popping porn.

It's about time the people with the pimples get the attention rather than the poppers.

Now that's empowerment!

https://www.google.com/search?q=pimple+popping+porn&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-us&client=safari

Fernandinande said...

A meta-analysis of association between acne [v]ulgaris and Demodex infestation

Somebody with lots of zits probably has a bunch of these cutie-pies living in their face.

Wince said...

In all porn, it's all about capturing the "money shot".

FIDO said...
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FIDO said...


I remember this hot girl I worked with. She wanted to set me up with her morbidly obese friend. I said no, and she got offended. I then asked her to double date, me with her fat friend, and her with my short balding friend. "I got a boyfriend." But the look on her face was that I was absolutely INSANE to think she could possibly be called upon to lower her standards.

Most of the irritation with Feminism and these type of campaigns is the lack of reciprocity: men have their preferences and respect that women have their own. A pain in the ass for short or fat guys, but there you are.

Women in general and feminists in particular, have no similar sense of obligation.

FIDO said...

SEEM to have no similar sense of obligation. That is directed to women in general. Feminists get no benefit of the doubt.

Phil 314 said...

Accutane changed the face of acne.

WWIII Joe Biden, Husk-Puppet + America's Putin said...

9:05 -Robert Cook

Agreed.

Robert Cook said...

@FIDO: your hot coworker obviously thought you were at her obese friend’s level of physical attractiveness and would therefore be an appropriate matchup.

FIDO said...

How incredibly thoughtful of you to make that comment, Robert. Please tell me more about your vast experience with rejection so perhaps I can have some pointers at how to deal with these issues more delicately in the future.

William said...

She has a few pimples. She doesn't have acne. I had acne. It looked nothing like that......The hard facts of my adolescence were my poverty and my acne. If I were given the choice between losing one and keeping the other of these afflictions, I would have opted for losing the acne and keeping the poverty.....At that time of life when I was the most self conscious about my looks, I was the most hideous and disfigured with severe acne. There's only a very small window of opportunity when you can honorably pursue sixteen year old girls and that opportunity was denied me because of the co!or and texture of my skin......I suppose you could say that these early hardships were responsible for the moral grandeur of my later years, but they were, nonetheless, hard years to live through.

Loren W Laurent said...

"...your hot coworker obviously thought you were at her obese friend’s level of physical attractiveness and would therefore be an appropriate matchup..."

You can learn a lot about how people perceive you by the people they try to set you up with.

As a slender white Jewish woman I have had friends who tried to set me up with men they perceived as intellectual.

From which I found that many men who are perceived as intellectual actually are not very intellectual.

Further, many of these men perceived as intellectual are not very good at sex. Cunnilingus, especially.

Maybe intellectual men are more afraid of the vagina.

And when I am naked in bed with a man I am not particularly interested in Gramsci.

That also applies if I am naked in bed with a woman.

-LWL

SGT Ted said...

The pimple thing is simply yet another campaign by females to avoid the consequences of reality.

Gordon Scott said...

Justin Bieber was a paid spokesface for the three-step system of acne treatment, about 8 years ago, along with Julianne Hough and Avril Lavingne.

Teen acne sucks. Acne when you're nearly sixty sucks also.

Trumpit said...

Masturbation causes acne, and will eventually lead to blindness. "Old wives' tale" is a misogynistic, ageist, and sexist term. Does anyone ever say, "old husbands' tale." A little know fact is that excessive masturbation led to the erection of President Trump. Wankers, and motorists are also to blame for global warming, and, of course, the war in Iraq. However, you can't blame abortion on masturbators. How could you? Fuckers are "jointly" at fault for abortion because "solely" would imply masturbation, an LSD trip, or a combination of the two.

Dust Bunny Queen said...

A little Proactive will fix that condition on her face. It is great stuff!

Also not smearing yourself with tons of makeup everyday. She might also want to get her hormone levels checked.

She has basic pimples. Not acne. Big deal.

Dust Bunny Queen said...

BTW: even still, in the photo she is wearing a shitton of make up. Girl needs to decide to get real or STFU.

tim in vermont said...

Beauty is more than skin deep, it's mostly in the bone structure.

Malesch Morocco said...

Why would 15,000 people follow this young woman on instagram?

Carol said...

I started using a concealer to cover up a terrible keloiding scar in the middle of my forehead last fall. Damned if it didn't clear up and disappear completely.

So I have some respect for concealer. It was a Maybelline line I got at Walmart btw.

The Cracker Emcee Refulgent said...

At last, Trumpit writes something I understand perfectly!

“Hardly ever see kids with severr acne anymore. Treatment must have improved.”

I’ve noticed this over the last 20 years as well. OTOH, there’s a ridiculous number of fat teenagers. When I was in high school, there was one fat chick and a couple of chubby dudes. And the fat chick lost it all the summer between our junior and senior years.

FIDO said...

You can learn a lot about how people perceive you by the people they try to set you up with

Shrug. In my Acne days, maybe I merited an obese chick.

In later life, I got approached by a substantially higher caliber of women. It seems when my acne (and checks) started clearing, the interest was there, personality and all.

The Lord taketh away and He also giveth.

Or: Every Dog has his day, for you Marxist atheist swine.

Or, for the Feminists: girls get their sexual power in their early years, men get it in their later years.

Robert Cook said...

FIDO, you seem to be holding on to some resentments.

Robert Cook said...

I know someone who is totally into obese women...I mean 300 lbs or more obese. He is very open and unashamed of what he finds attractive. He is not overweight at all.

hombre said...

Funny, when I was a kid nobody shamed the kids with acne. All of us tried to avoid it or get rid of it. We shared solutions.

Of course, we didn’t have bitter clingers or Trumpists then which would explain the civility. /s

hombre said...

Blogger Robert Cook said...
“FIDO, you seem to be holding on to some resentments.”

Interesting that when you point out the ignorance or insensitivity of a secprog they assume you are angry or resentful.

Is that some kind of projection?

FIDO said...

Not resentments, Bobbie. Noting undeserved personal slams. At least when I criticize you, it is for your foolish murderous ideology, not whatever myriad personal shortcomings I might imagine.

But I don't need to imagine them,do I?

Yancey Ward said...

I would have killed to have her skin when I was pimply teenager. My acne was ferocious starting in the 8th grade for about a half year. My parents, though, took me to a dermatologist who treated it with a couple of different antibiotics, which did work to a pretty significant degree- it prevented me from getting really bad scarring as a result.

To answer Trumpit's question about better treatment- I was probably one of the first people to use Accutane. I got a prescription for it the earliest time possible after it got FDA approval in 1982 (I was 16 at that time). The drug worked miracles for me- the acne was gone within a couple of weeks. I took the drug for about 6 months, after which the acne remained at the same low level afterwards.

I was just reading that Roche stopped selling the drug due to lawsuits, though it remains available from various generic sellers.

Yancey Ward said...

Hombre,

Nobody shamed me either, though I felt ashamed by it at the time. In retrospect, I realized that most of my turmoil was self-inflicted. If I had it to do over, I would have displayed the attitude of the young lady in the article- it really is the right way to deal with it, but that takes the perspective that most of us only gain with maturity and experience.

n.n said...

You're beautiful just the way you are. Don't try, don't strive, lower your expectations.

Rob said...

If acne is cool, then herpes must be da bomb.

FIDO said...

Yes, why bother aspiring to be better?

Not in acne, but in weight, personality, education, or skills. Just be your blobby self.

Self love and self respect are two different things. Love your flawed self...but have enough respect to change what you can.

FIDO said...

If acne is cool, then herpes must be da bomb.


I have it from credible Feminists that nothing trumps the status of having uterine scars.

Gordon Scott said...

Acne tends to be more challenging for girls to overcome.

I took Accutane for one day. The next morning I was reeling. I am one of those side effects you read about in the product insert.

eric said...

And if you don't date her or want her, then you're a bad person!

Robert Cook said...

”Not resentments, Bobbie. Noting undeserved personal slams. At least when I criticize you, it is for your foolish murderous ideology, not whatever myriad personal shortcomings I might imagine.”

1. I wasn’t slamming or criticizing you; I was making an observation as to how your hot coworker perceived you. I have zero basis to appraise you or your appearance, having never seen you.

2. You are, in fact, imagining that I hold a foolish or murderous ideology.

FIDO said...

If it is in any way pro socialism, I'm pretty secure in the analysis. And place which doesn't have Nords in it, Socialism had been economically and politically devastating.

tim in vermont said...

In later life, I got approached by a substantially higher caliber of women.

Isn’t that weird? One gets old and somehow one gets hotter. I guess we are the survivors and that counts for something. Maybe all of these attractive women were there all along, and I just couldn’t see the signs. Of course I dress a lot better. Never scrimp on shoes, never balk at the price of a pair that looks good.

Char Char Binks, Esq. said...

Why can't we see the beauty of disease? I don't just mean pretty-woman-movie cancer, but ALL disease.

mockturtle said...

Can leprosy be far behind?

Howard said...

The girl has some pimples, BFD. I had a couple friends with faces that looked worse than the Moon. One guy I'm still friends with had his face dermabraded so you can't see the ravages of his younger self.

walter said...
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walter said...

When it truly becomes cool, there will be acne prostheses.

Dave in Tucson said...

> "Is Acne Cool Now?"

Suppose there is a pill you can take, and it will give you acne that will last for the rest of your life. You want a dose? Maybe one for you and everyone in your family?

Now tell me again how acne is cool.

The Cracker Emcee Refulgent said...


“In later life, I got approached by a substantially higher caliber of women.”

The happy difference between high school and college in one sentence. Nothing sorts dudes quite like independence from the parental home.

FIDO said...

Acutane is great...for boys. Girls have fertility issues and, alas, far higher sensitivity to pocked skin. Dermatologists are VERY chary of giving it to even boys. Not like when I first used it.

But oddly, I see far more boys heavily afflicted to cycstic acne than girls, anectodally about 3 or 4 to 1.

This girl has very little to complain about.

'I complained I had no shoes, until I met a man who had no feet.'

Obviously NYT authors have no such sense of reflection, but they seem to aim their puff articles to aggrieved UMC women and gay men, so shrug.

Openidname said...

Betteridge's law of headlines: "Any headline that ends in a question mark can be answered by the word no."

StephenFearby said...

Addressing the apparent cause of acne by nutraceuticals:

Oxid Antioxid Med Sci 2012; 1(3):201-207

Effects of silymarin, N-acetylcysteine and selenium in the treatment of papulopustular acne

"...Administration of antioxidants silymarin, NAC and selenium (but not placebo) to patients with acne vulgaris significantly reduced serum MDA [malondialdehyde]and increased serum GSH [Glutathione, the body's principal antioxidant] levels after 8 weeks compared to pre-treatment value; also significantly reduced serum IL-8 [Interleukin-8] levels and the number of inflammatory lesions in patients with acne compared to placebo. The results obtained in this study clearly showed the beneficial effect of using silymarin, NAC and selenium to patients with acne vulgaris as indicated by the clinical improvement and biochemical findings, and confirmed the role of new strategy in the targeting of pathophysiological changes accompanied with acne by using antioxidant agents.

https://www.ejmanager.com/fulltextpdf.php?mno=25166

YMMV

The only source of pharmaceutical-grade NAC that I know of is made in Japan and sold in the USA by Swanson:

https://www.swansonvitamins.com/swanson-ultra-ajipure-n-acetyl-l-cysteine-pharmaceutical-grade-600-mg-60-veg-caps

The non-pharmaceutical grade stuff usually comes from China where it is reportedly made from either human hair or duck feathers.

SweatBee said...

"And this is a picture of someone not using way too much makeup?!?"

Compared to most adult women with responsibilities, no. Compared to people who spend their time taking Instagram pictures of their make-up, yes. Here's a pretty funny (imho) video of a make-up artist being shown by her daughter how to do Instagram makeup: Lily Teaches Me Instagram Makeup


"Hardly ever see kids with severr acne anymore. Treatment must have improved."

All the girls are on birth control pills. For everyone else, some of the products that were prescription-only when I was in high school now have OTC versions.