July 9, 2017

"In terms of the DNC, are you suggesting that this was somehow a set up by Democrats to try and link them or compromise them with the Russians? And this was before there was any Russian interference in election?"

Chris Wallace asked Reince Priebus on Fox News Sunday today.

Priebus answered:
Well, look, why was Fusion GPS involved in putting together this dossier? I don't know, Chris. And I don't think too many people know why or how this meeting came about. However, what I can tell you is in my communication with our team on the subject, there was nothing to it, it was a 20 minute meeting, it ended after everyone was decidedly sitting there saying there's nothing happening here. They moved on. And I think, in the end, what you’re going to find in the story, if you read the Circa column, because I think there’s more questions on the Democrat side than anywhere else....

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Once written, twice... said...

Really Ann? Your lack of cruel neutrality is glaring.

Also, can you imagine what you and your Althouse Hillbillies (I bringing that out of retirement--it was all a "civility bullshit" ruse on your part) would have said if a President Hillary Clinton had her daughter sit in for her at a G-20 meeting?

eddie willers said...

would have said if a President Hillary Clinton had her daughter sit in for her at a G-20 meeting?

We'll never know....thank God.

Kevin said...

would have said if a President Hillary Clinton had her daughter sit in for her at a G-20 meeting?

There was no cash being exchanged so Chelsea would have no reason to attend.

The Godfather said...

Wallace's question ("before there was any Russian interference in the election") is really stupid. Either Democratic operatives tried to create a false impression of Trump connections with Russia or they didn't. If the Dems did it, it doesn't matter whether they did so before or after the alleged Russian "election hacking".

eric said...

Common Democrat tactic.

Commit a crime, then point and yell at the Republicans to keep the heat off of yourself.

tcrosse said...

Higgledy Piggledy blogress Ann Althouse
Writes about Politics, Show biz and Law
Moderates comments with cruel neutrality,
Tolerates language contentious and raw.

Once written, twice... said...

So the new pro-Trump narrative is going to be that "yes, he colluded with the Russians but it is the Democrats fault!"?

AJ Lynch said...
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AJ Lynch said...

This Russia crap is over; it's less then a nothing burger.

If the media and the Dems continue to push this story, they might as well as also hunt for DB Cooper and the killer of Nicole Brown Simpson [which re the last, it just so happens I have heard the CIA and NSA have good quality satellite photos of Nicole's house the night she was killed...apparently the smog level was very very low that night].


Drago said...

Fusion GPS is a Dem oppo research firm.

Fusion GPS was responsible for the fake dossier.

Fusion GPS set up this meeting.

The attendees to this meeting misrepresented who they were.

Gee, I guess it was all completely innocent....like the NYT "honest mistake" accusing Palin of being responsible for the Tucson shooting.

So very very many "innocent" coincidences for the lefties.

Not a smidgen of corruption.

clint said...

The pro-Trump narrative is that President Trump did not collude with the Russians and that the whole story is a narrative fabricated by democrats to try to bring down his administration before it had even started.

I'm not sure why you'd characterize that as "new", since it has been the constant refrain since at least last December.

And it seems to have held up very well -- unlike every new weekly accusation that was sure to bring down Trump this time!!!!11!

Once written, twice... said...

Trump's eldest son, his son-in-law, his campaign manager had a meeting in the Trump Tower right after he got the nomination with a Russian agent. That's a "nothing burger?"

Right!!!

Once again, just imagine what Ann and her Althouse Hillbillies would say if this was Clinton and her daughter and son-in-law.

Ann, "cruel neutrality" my ass.

Bay Area Guy said...

If Hillary had won, this "Russian-Collusion" story would never even exist.

A big smoke screen to help "explain" away Hillary's unexpected loss. Blame Putin! Blame Comey!

Blah, blah, blah

Hagar said...

The "collusion" still consists of unproven assertions that it was "the Russians" who published the DNC and Podesta e-mails? Right? There has not been anything else yet, has there?

Drago said...

This is the last gasp of the fake collusion dead-enders like Once-y.

It's astonishing to watch them in their death throes.

But mostly it's hilarious and more enjoyable with each passing day.

chickelit said...

Trump's eldest son, his son-in-law, his campaign manager had a meeting in the Trump Tower right after he got the nomination with a Russian agent. That's a "nothing burger?"

It's a Veselnitskaya-burger

Drago said...

Hagar: "The "collusion" still consists of unproven assertions that it was "the Russians" who published the DNC and Podesta e-mails? Right?"

Nope. It's been morphing almost daily as the goalposts are moving continuously.

The Dems finally found a dead guy they want to blame.

Funny.

StoughtonSconnie said...

Could this be the fake collusion story that Maddow was warning the fever swamp lefties to avoid?

Chris Breisch said...

This whole story is the biggest nothingburger yet in a narrative that has been full of them. Is this ever going to end? My prediction: I will die of old age before any proof of collusion between the Trump people and the Russians appears.

Once written, twice... said...

Chris Wallace is clearly not buying the Team Trump's bullshit.

tcrosse said...

What difference, at this point, does it make ?

Hagar said...

@Drago,
Are you referring to Seth Rich? That is the DNC staffer Wikileaks say they got it from. The Democrats poopoo that and insist it was "The Roosians," "The Roosians," we tell you!!!

Fabi said...

A "Russian agent" you say, Once-y? Sounds scary! I'll wait right here while you list which laws were broken by meeting with a "Russian agent". There must be dozens, so just three will suffice.

Hagar said...

and on a CD. No "hackinng" involved.

Unknown said...

Donald Trump Jr and Jared Kuschner met with a Russian lawyer after being promised damaging info on Clinton. Boom, the smoking gun. Collusion. In your face. At last.

rhhardin said...

None of this would happen if women didn't vote. There'd be no point.

Guys abstract to principles and vote that; women add details and vote that.

Amadeus 48 said...

I click on the link and it says "Access Denied". Who is denying access and why? The Russians? Dead-ender Obama-ites in the National Security apparatus? CNN? James Clapper? Barron Trump?

Once says that I should be concerned that Ivanka had her nails done by a Russian manicurist. Oh, the humanity!! Is there no end to this nightmare? I think there are Russians under my bed!

Quaestor said...

OWT wrote: Ann, "cruel neutrality" my ass.

The fact that Althouse hasn't bounced a "nothingburger" like you onto the trash heap of unfunny abusive shit-slingers is proof enough of her cruel neutrality, don't you think?

chickelit said...

Unknown said...Donald Trump Jr and Jared Kuschner met with a Russian lawyer after being promised damaging info on Clinton. Boom, the smoking gun. Collusion. In your face. At last.

I see that the NYT is back to relying on paraphrased descriptions of confidential documents.

Jon Ericson said...

Karen, who killed Seth Rich?

Unknown said...

"... who killed Seth Rich?"

You.

tcrosse said...

Donald Trump Jr and Jared Kuschner met with a Russian lawyer after being promised damaging info on Clinton.

The Russians uncovered information that Hillary was a corrupt, lying greed-head. Otherwise we never would have figured it out. How else explain that we failed to elect our own homegrown Evita Peron ?

Jon Ericson said...

I thought that was your name.

gadfly said...

Drago said...
Fusion GPS is a Dem oppo research firm.

Fusion GPS was responsible for the fake dossier.

Fusion GPS set up this meeting.

The attendees to this meeting misrepresented who they were.


Not picking on Drago - but where is the proof? All we know is that a Trump lawyer put out this story and they never lie - they just rip off charities for personal gain.

Jon Ericson said...

Who needs proof?
Mister CBS eye.

Unknown said...

Trump is willing to "work" with Russia on a joint Cyber Security plan, hahahahahaha! Trump is giving the fox the keys to the hen house, dumb or traitorous?

Darrell said...

I sat next to three of the top lawyers in the country this morning, and they seemed to think that the NYT's story means that Hillary Clinton will never be President of the United States. Sounds about right.

eric said...

Blogger Once written, twice... said...
Trump's eldest son, his son-in-law, his campaign manager had a meeting in the Trump Tower right after he got the nomination with a Russian agent. That's a "nothing burger?"


Yes, exactly. They didn't meet with a Russian official. They met with someone who happens to have Russian citizenship, who said they had information helpful to the Trump campaign. They had nothing, end of story.

What's your evidence this Russian lawyer was an agent of the Russian government, other than your fantasy?

That's why it's yet another nothingburger. Because fantasy doesn't stick anymore, unless you're a Democrat or #nevertrump.

Darrell said...

Voters in key States were compelled not to vote for Hillary because of secret subliminal Russian signals hidden within a YouTube video.

Unknown said...

I'm sure Mueller's investigation won't ignore or dismiss this, but you people should continue to live in Trump lala land...while it lasts.

Darrell said...

Maksim "Maks" Aleksandrovich Chmerkovskiy from DWTS got married this weekend. Coincidence?

eric said...

Blogger Unknown said...
I'm sure Mueller's investigation won't ignore or dismiss this, but you people should continue to live in Trump lala land...while it lasts.


You know why we don't care about such things?

President Pence.

Unknown said...

You know why we don't care about such things?

Liar. Oh yes, you do care a great deal about it. You wouldn't have spent the last 6 months denying collusion if you wouldn't have cared about it.

Drago said...

Gadfly: "Not picking on Drago - but where is the proof?"

Yes, a Russia collusion crazy is asking for proof if something.

Without irony.

Darrell said...

Yakov Smirnoff met with Donald Trump. FACT.

Drago said...

"...denying collusion..."

What collusion?

Lol

Big Mike said...

@gadfly, how much money did the Clinton Foundation raise for Haitian earthquake relief and how much of that was actually spent in Haiti? How many disabled individuals did Bernie's wife evict from their group home?

Jon Ericson said...

Unknown Karen #51 is back.
Inferior to the Ingaster.

Drago said...

Just last week Trump had Russian dressing on his salad.

Need I say more?

Darrell said...

Attorney Defending NYT in Palin Defamation Suit Claims “Honest Mistake.”

Any relation to Chuck?

eric said...

Blogger Unknown said...
You know why we don't care about such things?

Liar. Oh yes, you do care a great deal about it. You wouldn't have spent the last 6 months denying collusion if you wouldn't have cared about it.


7/9/17, 5:54 PM


Or, maybe, just maybe, we're denying collusion because you've failed to provide any evidence of collusion.

Hell, I'd even deny it if you said I'd won the lottery if you failed to provide me with the winning lottery ticket.

Unlike Democrats, we demand evidence to go with your accusations. I know, crazy, right?

Lewis Wetzel said...

A five minute search on the internet reveals that Fusion GPS is a going concern financed and managed by progressive/democrat operators. This was known in January, when the so-called "Steele dossier", and Obama's intelligence report which relied heavily on the opinions of Fusion GPS, were released.
Jesus Christ our mainstream press is made up of dimwits.

Drago said...

I have been informed by unnamed sources linked to the Supreme Court Marshalls and Vatcan Papal Guards that the evidence of Russian collusion exists on Scott Walkers Secret Routers and as we speak a team of Macedonians are busily hacking those routers for Muellers team of Hillary lawyers.

FullMoon said...

Unknown said...

I'm sure Mueller's investigation won't ignore or dismiss this, but you people should continue to live in Trump lala land...while it lasts.
7/9/17, 5:47 PM


Brilliant comment. Imaginative, original, exciting, well reasoned. Thought provoking. I read it several times.I laughed. I cried, made my day.
May I have permission to use it elsewhere?

Quaestor said...

I'm sure Mueller's investigation won't ignore or dismiss this, but you people should continue to live in Trump lala land...while it lasts.

Counting President Barron Trump, that'll be about 54 years in lala land.

Drago said...

"Jesus Christ our mainstream press is made up of dimwits."

Not dimwits. Co-conspirators.

Birkel said...

If Trump were a drinker, he would only drink vodka.

There's your proof.

n.n said...

And this was before there was any Russian interference in election?" Chris Wallace asked

Alleged? Yes.

pacwest said...

"Trump is willing to "work" with Russia on a joint Cyber Security plan, hahahahahaha! Trump is giving the fox the keys to the hen house, dumb or traitorous?"

Keep your friends close and your enemies closer. How would you go about stopping further intrusion into our elections? Economic pressure which would harm both nations followed by vague unverifiable promises? Or work on methods that would make further intrusions harder?

I'll admit I may giving more credit than is due, but for anyone who thinks the Trump administration is stupid you need to check your premises.

Darrell said...

Trump's people tried to get appointments to see key Russians, but they were all booked solid with meetings with Democrats.

Ann Althouse said...

That link should have worked.

I've redone it and it's working for me now.

Amadeus 48 said...

Unknown and Once--
Do you realize how much you guys sound like Orly Taitz?
It's not your best move.

Sample Commenter said...

Hillary took tens of millions of dollars from the Russians and did them great favors as SoS and we are supposed to pretend that she was not the alternative offered because reasons.

Amadeus 48 said...

Althouse-The link works for me now. Barron Trump must have gone back to his homework!

FullMoon said...

Most interesting is fact that Russians believed Trump would beat Hillary. That is why they did not meet with her team.
Or, Hillary had already agreed to cooperate with them, so meeting was not needed.

Darrell said...

Hillary Clinton will soon be out of lawyers because they are all going to work for Mueller.

Dickin'Bimbos@Home said...

& remember - when the left does opposition research - it's all good.

Darrell said...

Or, Hillary had already agreed to cooperate with them, so meeting was not needed.

The Russians had tapes of Hillary soliciting "donations" to the Clinton Foundation of $Millions when she set up the deal for America's uranium reserves. They already owned her.

Birkel said...

Have 17 agencies confirmed this story, or has Democrat James Clapper confirmed that it was only four? Or is this an anonymously sourced (READ: made from whole cloth) report from Democrat sources?

6 months into this presidency I am not yet tired of the winning.

Henry said...

Curious.

Is there anything illegal about obtaining opposition research from a foreign national?

Henry said...

eric summed it up already: They didn't meet with a Russian official. They met with someone who happens to have Russian citizenship, who said they had information helpful to the Trump campaign

Fabi said...

I'm still waiting on Once-y to provide a list of possible crimes committed during the referenced meeting.

Drago said...

Trump possesses an unusually large Nesting Doll collection.

Just saying.

gadfly said...

Blogger Big Mike said...
@gadfly, how much money did the Clinton Foundation raise for Haitian earthquake relief and how much of that was actually spent in Haiti? How many disabled individuals did Bernie's wife evict from their group home?

So let me understand your questions. I pointed out that there is at least one Trump personal lawyer who ripped off charities. The same lawyer has appeared on TV to defend Trump policies and actions, so truth is suddenly an issue with Trump-hired lawyers.

Your barrage of questions relate to Democratic crooks who have not been brought before the justice system - but this post is not about them (that is another set of proof altogether) - it is about proof as to whether the Dem oppo group was behind the Russian lawyer's meeting with Trump relatives.

So am I to conclude that it is OK, from your questions and standpoint, for everyone to rip off charities? Just checking on your moral code...

eric said...

Imagine this headline,

"Trump team meets with someone offering opposition research like every other campaign in history."

Hrmmm, perhaps that wouldn't get enough clicks.

Unknown said...

"Is there anything illegal about obtaining opposition research from a foreign national."

If it's from hacked information....

"Renato Mariotti, who prosecuted cybercrime and financial fraud cases as an assistant US attorney in Chicago, says a person who encouraged the release of emails stolen from an American could face prosecution for aiding and abetting computer fraud.* “You have to know of the criminal activity and take affirmative steps to help it succeed,” he says.

Attorneys also say that a person who colluded with hackers should worry about being charged for wire fraud, a broad law that prohibits the use of communications technology, including the internet, with the intent to commit fraud. They also note that a colluder could face prosecution for violating copyright, trade secrets, and even espionage laws.

An indication of the breadth of charges federal prosecutors can level in hacking cases came in March in California. Prosecutors there charged four men, including two members of Russia’s Federal Security Service, with a high-profile penetration into 500 million Yahoo user accounts in 2014. The two Russian officials, accused of supporting but not participating in the breach, drew dozens of federal charges, including conspiracy to commit computer fraud, conspiracy to commit access device fraud, conspiracy to steal trade secrets, and conspiracy to commit wire fraud.

A law barring foreign nationals from providing assistance in US elections could also put Trump aides in legal danger. That law, strengthened in the wake of allegations that Bill Clinton’s 1996 reelection campaign benefited from Chinese support, prohibits foreigners from providing “anything of value” in connection with an election. Bob Bauer, who served as White House counsel under former President Barack Obama, wrote in a June 2 analysis that Russian actions aimed at helping elect Trump, including the hacking and release of embarrassing emails from the Clinton campaign and the Democratic National Committee, represent an overlooked illegal campaign donation. “The case is more or less hiding in plain sight,” Bauer insisted.

Under this law, US campaign officials must provide “substantial assistance” to a foreign person or entity helping their campaign in order to face criminal liability. Secret contacts aimed at securing Russian help would probably meet the standard. So might public statements like Trump’s invitation for more Russian hacking and his repeated praise of WikiLeaks, the site that disseminated the Democratic emails swiped by Russian intelligence. Bauer argued that such statements alerted Russian officials that their efforts were welcome. Those statements also made clear that Trump considered Russia’s assistance to be “of value,” said Bauer."

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2017/06/sorry-fox-news-legal-experts-say-trump-collusion-with-russia-could-be-a-crime/

Drago said...

Mother Jones!

Lol

Henry said...

Also, can you imagine what you and your Althouse Hillbillies (I bringing that out of retirement--it was all a "civility bullshit" ruse on your part) would have said if a President Hillary Clinton had her daughter sit in for her at a G-20 meeting?

That's actually an interesting question, beyond the obvious rhetorical stance.

Imagine a twin study. Two twins are separated at birth and adopted by two powerful families. One twin, whose family is in politics, studied public health, worked in finance, worked in fundraising for her mother, did some television gigs and wrote some didactic prose. The other twin, whose family is in real estate, studied economics, did some fashion gigs, and assumed a senior role in her father's business.

Who would you rather have a beer with?

eric said...

If it's from hacked information....

If is doing a lot of work in that write up.

I got it, they met with someone, nothing happened, they left. Well, if they talked about murdering someone though?!! I mean, are you going to cover for someone who talked about murder? How do we know they didn't talk about murdering someone?!

So, yes, they committed a crime if they talked about murdering someone.

FullMoon said...

Unknown said...

"Is there anything illegal about obtaining opposition research from a foreign national."

If it's from hacked information....


Followed by copy/paste from Mother Jones.
Any doubt now that "unknown is current Inga?
Same dang style.

Unknown said...

"On Fox, Hume was not alone in questioning the criminality of collusion. Host Gregg Jarrett wrote last month that Mueller “is tasked with finding a crime that does not exist” because “colluding with Russia is not, under America’s criminal codes, a crime.” Fox’s Geraldo Rivera and Sean Hannity have made the more specific argument that a Trump campaign official would not have broken the law by asking a Russian person to release hacked emails. “Is that a crime, to say ‘release it?'” Hannity asked on his radio show Friday.

“Fuck yeah, potentially,” responds Ekeland. He notes he has defended clients prosecuted for actions comparable to those of the hypothetical Trump aide. Hacking into someone’s email is a federal felony. Encouraging that crime may constitute a conspiracy to violate federal identify theft and computer fraud laws, Ekeland says. (On July 27, at a campaign press conference, Trump essentially encouraged Russia to hack Hillary Clinton: “Russia: If you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing.”)"

Darrell said...

Once's legal hero is Lavrentiy Beria who said "Show me the man and I'll show you the crime." Ironic that Beria, lenin, and Stalin are the cornerstones of the Democrat's Trump/Russian investigations.

FullMoon said...

Henry said...

Also, can you imagine what you and your Althouse Hillbillies (I bringing that out of retirement--it was all a "civility bullshit" ruse on your part) would have said if a President Hillary Clinton had her daughter sit in for her at a G-20 meeting?

That's actually an interesting question, beyond the obvious rhetorical stance.

Imagine a twin study. Two twins are separated at birth and adopted by two powerful families. One twin, whose family is in politics, studied public health, worked in finance, worked in fundraising for her mother, did some television gigs and wrote some didactic prose. The other twin, whose family is in real estate, studied economics, did some fashion gigs, and assumed a senior role in her father's business.

Who would you rather have a beer with?

7/9/17, 6:53 PM
The attractive one, obviously. I am a base and simple man.

Henry said...

Unknown wrote: If it's from hacked information....

Which appears not be the case in this instance.

Thanks for posting that article. It makes clear how unserious the current allegations are.

There's a lot of theory about how incredibly colluding and felonious the Trump campaign may have been, but all the specific instances are parking tickets.

rcocean said...

The MSM and Democrats keep looking for that smoking Russian gun.

But after 12 months they got nothing.

Maybe this it.

Yeah.

Hagar said...

Actually this is not what happened.
What did happen is that the Trumps were lured to a meeting about a potential charitable project that turned out to be just a pretext for a Democrat "dity trick" operation.

Darrell said...

Unknown/Impostor Inga is against free speech.Trump's joke about emails is a crime, but Democrats can freely call for Republicans to be kiiled. Got it.

rcocean said...

After 8 months of breathless MSM coverage here's what we got:

Somehow, somebody from the Trump campaign, somehow "Colluded" with the Russians to do something or other, that no one can quite put their finger on.

But its really, really, bad. If somehow we knew what it was.

Or if there was any proof.

Henry said...

He notes he has defended clients prosecuted for actions comparable to those of the hypothetical Trump aide.

Do you get how unserious this is? You need to get beyond the hypothetical.

rcocean said...

Meanwhile, Hillary, and all the Leakers like Comey probably committed actual, easily identifiable crimes - but who cares?

Jon Ericson said...

Unk#51 is Karen.
I miss Unk#55.
Xi tried to suck up to Pedro!
lol

FullMoon said...

: “Russia: If you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing.” )"

Accidentally forgot the rest, didn't you?
"I think you will be rewarded mightily by the press"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yELV238wr-k

Sample Commenter said...

Russia still has a lot of oil and gas reserves. And it uses this to bully Eastern and Western Europe. It threatens to cut off these resources if Europe dares to complain about Putin power grabs in Crimea, eastern Ukraine, the Baltics and elsewhere.

And Hillary helped him out by trying to kill Keystone. After taking tens of millions from Putin cronies, and are Democrats wondering how they let it happen, nope. They are lost in a fever swap of baseless insinuation.

Mike Sylwester said...

From the linked Circa article:

Veselnitskaya is identified in court documents as a former Russian prosecutor and private lawyer in Moscow who had been representing the Russian businessman Denis Katsyv and his Prevezon Holdings, against a U.S. Department of Justice a civil asset forfeiture case. In one document, she described having trouble getting a visa from the U.S.

Here are my questions:

* Did Veselnitskaya ever communicate with the Obama Administration, any Democrat politicians or any Democrat lobbyists about this matter?

* Did Katsyv ever communicate with the Obama Administration, any Democrat politicians or any Democrat lobbyists about this matter?

* Did Prevezon ever communicate with the Obama Administration, any Democrat politicians or any Democrat lobbyists about this matter?

Michael K said...

Unknown Inga is this the best you can do?

“Russia: If you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing.”)"

In the meantime, while the left is running around looking for squirrels.

Trump is making the US an energy powerhouse.

While Obama mouthed the words "all of the above" when describing his own energy policy, his administration did everything it could to thwart all sources of energy except unreliable and heavily subsidized wind and solar.

Obama canceled the Keystone XL pipeline; put vast tracts of land and offshore areas off-limits to oil and gas development; denied a permit for a liquefied natural gas export terminal in Oregon; endlessly pushed for huge tax hikes on energy companies; called oil the "energy of the past"; and tried to kill coal with his "Clean Power Plan." Nuclear power was at a standstill. Even hydropower production dropped 7% on his watch.

It is true that oil and natural gas production took off while Obama was in the White House, but this was despite Obama's best efforts, not because of them, since those production gains were on private lands.

Trump's "make American energy great again" approach is a nightmare to environmentalists, who endlessly preach global-warming doom and fantasize about a world powered by windmills and solar panels.

America is truly blessed with an incredible abundance of natural resources, and Trump is right to put the fortunes of today's Americans ahead of supposed climate change threats that won't materialize — if they do at all — for another 100 years.

Getting the government out of the way of these resources is the best energy policy anyone could hope for, and it's the one Trump is pushing. If only the public, and the news media, would take notice.


Meanwhile, the left is running in circles.

Unknown said...

"Donald Trump Jr.’s ‘Denials’ of Russian Collusion Are Actually Confessions"

"So the Trump campaign took a meeting with Russians who promised to supply them with damaging information on their opponent. This is the defense. Given that Trump is fervently denying that his campaign colluded with Russia to steal and disseminate Democratic emails, it is not a very strong one.

Trump Jr.’s latest defense is that while he sought damaging information from Veselnitskaya, she failed to deliver any. However, the timing of events around this meeting is instructive. The hacker Guccifer announced the theft of Clinton emails the month before, and Guccifer’s only publicly known connection to Russia was his use of Russian proxy servers. But three days after the meeting with the Trump campaign, Julian Assange, Putin’s pass-through publishing source for email hacks, announced, “We have upcoming leaks in relation to Hillary Clinton … We have emails pending publication, that is correct.”

The most interesting follow-up question is, what was the nature of the damaging information that Veselnitskaya promised? Stolen emails, perhaps?"

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/07/donald-trump-jr-s-russia-denials-are-actually-confessions.html

Henry said...

The most interesting follow-up question is, what was the nature of the damaging information that Veselnitskaya promised? Stolen emails, perhaps?"

Or Hillary Clinton's cookie recipe. Google some more. The night is young. Suppositions are afield. The hunt is on.

Unknown said...

"The most interesting follow-up question is, what was the nature of the damaging information that Veselnitskaya promised? Stolen emails, perhaps?""

I'm quite certain Mueller will be or already has asked this question.

Unknown said...

Althouse Trumpists are La La Land dwellers. Enjoy it while it lasts.

Darrell said...

When Veselnitskaya was asked if there was proof that Hillary shits herself, Veselnitskaya answered "Depends."

eric said...

Blogger Michael K said...
Unknown Inga is this the best you can do?

“Russia: If you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing.”)"

In the meantime, while the left is running around looking for squirrels.


Michael, we're going to have to kick you out of the club if you keep telling them this.

The whole plan is to keep them focused on Russia while we undo all the destruction they've caused over the past 30 years.

So please, focus on Russia. It's important!

eric said...

Here are my questions:

* Did Veselnitskaya ever communicate with the Obama Administration, any Democrat politicians or any Democrat lobbyists about this matter?

* Did Katsyv ever communicate with the Obama Administration, any Democrat politicians or any Democrat lobbyists about this matter?

* Did Prevezon ever communicate with the Obama Administration, any Democrat politicians or any Democrat lobbyists about this matter?


Give it a few days. The answer to these questions will be yes. And then the whole thing will be memory holed.

clint said...

In case anyone missed it, this week President Trump reversed President Obama's pro-Russian policy of cancelling the sale of patriot missile defense systems to Poland. He also arranged to sell natural gas to the Poles -- helping to wean them off their dependence on Russia for their energy supplies. And reaffirmed our commitment to defend them militarily against Russia.

It's getting increasingly difficult to see how President Trump could be a Russian stooge.

If Putin *did* try to fix the election to get Trump elected, I'd imagine he's wishing he hadn't right about now.

Darrell said...

The meeting ended when Michelle Fields suddenly burst into the room and promptly toppled over.

antiphone said...

Lewis Wetzel said...

A five minute search on the internet reveals that Fusion GPS is a going concern financed and managed by progressive/democrat operators.

Maybe next time try six minutes and provide a link.


The company was co-founded in 2009 by Glenn R. Simpson and Peter Fritsch, both former journalists for The Wall Street Journal...

...In September 2015, Fusion GPS was hired to do opposition research for Republicans who opposed Donald Trump's bid during the Republican primary campaign for the 2016 presidential election. After Trump became the Republican candidate for the 2016 U.S. presidential election, the Republican donors stopped funding the investigation, but funding was continued by Democratic supporters of Hillary Clinton.[12]


Also

According to reports, the dossier was created as part of opposition research on Trump. The investigation into Trump was initially funded by "Never Trump" Republicans and later by Democrats.[5][6][7] In September 2015, a wealthy Republican donor who opposed Trump's candidacy in the Republican primary hired Fusion GPS, an American research firm, to do opposition research on Trump. For months, Fusion GPS gathered information about Trump, focusing on his business and entertainment activities. When Trump became the presumptive nominee in May 2016, the Republican donor withdrew and the investigation contract was taken over by an unidentified Democratic client.[7][8]

FullMoon said...

Unknown said...

"The most interesting follow-up question is, what was the nature of the damaging information that Veselnitskaya promised? Stolen emails, perhaps?""

I'm quite certain Mueller will be or already has asked this question.

7/9/17, 7:24 PM


You have it backwards. Trumps team gave the Russians info on Hillary. It's all over the internet now.Try to keep up.

Bay Area Guy said...

Shh. I have some really secret damaging information about Hillary: she is a crappy candidate. Don't tell anyone!!

rcocean said...

When are Natasha and Boris Badanov going to disclose their meeting with Donald Jnr?

And put an end to this bad comedy?

chickelit said...

What do you know vs. what do you believe?

Drago said...

Unknown: "Althouse Trumpists are La La Land dwellers. Enjoy it while it lasts."

In La La Land, Hillary did not have a 97% probability of winning.

Lol

Maybe it's time to dredge up another Mother Jones link. I guess if the Communist Party USA isn't commenting Mother Jones will do in a pinch.

chickelit said...

I've redone it and it's working for me now.

Works for me now too. Thanks!

Drago said...

Pssssst! (Whispering) My password is "password", pass it on....

Fabi said...

Trump paid the Russians to steal Wisconsin from Hillary's campaign map.

rcocean said...

"The meeting ended when Michelle Fields suddenly burst into the room and promptly toppled over."

Funny.

Ann Coulter had a great line on Fields:

"Proposed apology for Body Slammin’ Gianforte: “So sorry. Honest mistake. I thought you were Michelle Fields.”

And

"In honor of Michelle Fields ESPN just ran a 30 for 30 on the Duke Lacrosse case. Amazing documentary."

Darrell said...

The Trump family has met with Keri Russell and Matthew Rhys in New York City. What other proof do you need?

cubanbob said...

So far the Democrats are really saying it's a crime to expose their criminalty.

Gk1 said...

I find the weekend NYT "bombshells" are getting more and more tepid by the week. This tells me that the kitchen is bare, if there was anything good it has been leaked already. This is the best they got? Trump people met with someone connected to Russia and it was a quick meeting because there wasn't much to discuss. Hold the presses!

Drago said...

Perhaps Donald Jr was discussing the upcoming full and complete embrace of Jihad by the Democrats and LLR's.

So. Much. Winning.

Drago said...

G 1: "This is the best they got?"

Not at all.

They've also got fake stories that almost sold Maddow.

So, on top of all the fake stories to date, we can add the latest fake stories to the super fake stories that were so fake that even the Fake News wasn't biting.

All in all it's been a banner couple if weeks for the fake collusion story. I'm surprised the volume of fake stories hadn't caused the US to capsize.

In other news, in their desperation to advance fake stories the Dems have exposed the bulk of our intelligence capabilities to the outside world.

pacwest said...

Off topic, but since we are talking about lack of self awareness:
Ace has a post about someone getting up in front of a protest Trump group and giving a bunch of Hitler quotes (without identifying them as such). He was cheered, and the group's organizer tried to sign him up for more speeches. Even Laslo can't make stuff like this up.

Ralph L said...

Also on Circa:
Gender Reveal Parties?

Backlash against the Transexual Agenda.
Or child support.

Tommy Duncan said...

The DNC is about to triple Winston Smith's workload.

clint said...

I keep expecting a pivot to a slate of stories about Donald Trump -- corrupt businessman. (He's in real estate in a Democratic Party city. You know he had to pay bribes to keep in business. ) Or telling the horror stories of how illegal immigrants are suffering under the Trump regime's oppression. Or parading out women to claim Trump harassed them in one way or another.

But, no. We're back to Russia. Honestly, it's getting a bit boring. Does anyone actually expect to find some smoking gun of corrupt collusion between Trump and Russia? It takes all of the suspense out of a political thriller when you realize it's going to end in a fizzle rather than a bang.

Darrell said...

A lot depends on keeping the Russia lie alive. It was the justification for getting FISA warrants to spy on Trump and just about anyone who has had contact with Trump during the campaign. It was the justification for getting those on the NSA database that was made available to law enforcement. If it was exposed as a known lie aforethought, it would mean thousands of crimes had been committed. Crimes leading all the way back to Obama and his corrupt Justice Department. Will we get a memo when the combined expenditures pass $1 Billion? Mueller and his 14 Clinton legal aides and armies of investigators get included in the total, of course.

Drago said...

"Does anyone actually expect to find some smoking gun of corrupt collusion between Trump and Russia?"

The Dem/leftist/"lifelong republican" base was sold a lie so delicious that those crazies will accept nothing less than the arrest of Donald Trump.

On the flip side, that passion means big fundraising bucks for the Dem powers that be.

Since the collusion lie is precisely that, what we are witnessing is the leftist/dem/media leadership trying to thread the needle on maintaining the passion and $$$$ by continuing the innuendo while simultaneously figuring out a way to extricate themselves from their rhetorical modified limited Hangouts without completely alienating the lefty crazies.

It can only get more fun.

Michael K said...

"So please, focus on Russia. It's important!"

I'm sorry. I should realize that informing Democrats is a waste of good oxygen or pixels as the case mey be.

They are immune. Sort of like women who are allergic to the husband's sperm.

wildswan said...

Note found on DNC genderfree bathroom floor. Toilet seat up.

How bad is Trump? When I tell you that no one has been able to identify his crime or find the evidence for it - doesn't that show? I mean Hillary, we know the crimes: Whitewater, bimbo suppression, pay for play, Top Secret material from the office of the Secretary of State on an unsecured server, hundreds of thousands for speeches, blah, blah - we know it all. But Donald Trump - we don't even know what he has done. Doesn't that just show how necessary it is that we have an unlimited non-partisan investigation employing all the lawyers in DC who have lost jobs since Trump came to power? Even the Russians - we know that Putin is invading the Ukraine and turning off the power supply line to Eastern Europe when he feels like it. And that shows you how bad what Trump is doing must be because Trump is a white American man and defeated a Democrat, meaning THE worst. Yet we can't find evidence. You see what I mean. And even when we wiretapped him and heard his campaign strategy he beat us because in his strategy he was trying to break the blue wall which can't be done so we paid no attention. And he did it, he broke the blue wall so that shows he committed crimes.

Oh, God, just so tired ... just so tired ... Russia ... if I hear that word one more time ... meeting today... got to ... new accusations needed ... Please God, I'm not sure any more whether Trump is on trial or I am. My life is being lost in an orange mist where I wander hearing Russia, Russia, Impeach. But don't let me doubt, not ... not ... defection to the Republicans.

steve uhr said...

Donald Jr. changed his story from Saturday to Sunday. Why did he do that?

Let's hope the Trump Tower was full of (legal) "wires taps" so that someday the truth will come out.

grackle said...

Voters in key States were compelled not to vote for Hillary because of secret subliminal Russian signals hidden within a YouTube video.

Yes, that and the RT on PBS. RT = Russian television. The voters were “seduced” by RT.

You wouldn't have spent the last 6 months denying collusion if you wouldn't have cared about it.

The problem is that the collusion meme never resulted in any evidence other than fake news articles like the one under discussion. It’s been 6 months and we are all still waiting.

Russia: If you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing.

When Trump jokes they take him literally – when he’s serious they treat it like a joke. It’s the same fake outrage tactic followed by CNN with the recent WWE meme video. CNN tried to peddle the obvious fiction that Trump’s funny video was a real threat. Why do fake news outlets have such poor imaginations?

Jon Ericson said...

@wildswan
Lazloesque, without the anal.
(that's a compliment btw)

Laslo Spatula said...

steve uhr said...
"Donald Jr. changed his story from Saturday to Sunday. Why did he do that?"

Because of the Sabbath.

I am Laslo.

Birkel said...

I Will take the bait. What did Trump, Jr say that changed? Only quotes are accepted. Video a plus.

Gahrie said...

The Dem/leftist/"lifelong republican" base was sold a lie so delicious that those crazies will accept nothing less than the arrest of Donald Trump.

What kills me, is that up to Nov. 2016, Russia was a good guy to these same people. The Democrats actually have colluded with the Russians to try and influence U.S. elections.

Gk1 said...

The "russian collusion" stories remind me of the Plame witch hunt and how there was a weekly circle jerk by the democrats and press counting down the days before Karl Rove was frog marched out of the white house in chains. This may end differently as I don't expect the trump people to roll over and hand over a patsy like those cucks in the Bush whitehouse.

exiledonmainstreet said...

Drago said...
Trump possesses an unusually large Nesting Doll collection.

Just saying.

7/9/17, 6:48 PM

Rachel Maddow has proof that two days before the election he was seen eating borscht.

Jon Ericson said...

Beg pardon: Lasloesque.

steve uhr said...

"Only quotes are accepted" That's fair enough:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/09/us/donald-trump-jrs-two-different-explanations-for-russian-meeting.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=a-lede-package-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news

Darrell said...

The NYT has two different explanations of what came first, the Comey memo or the Trump Tweet. How do you explain that?

Unknown said...

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/341223-ex-bush-ethics-lawyer-on-trump-jr-meeting-with-russian-lawyer-this

An ethics lawyer under former President George W. Bush blasted Donald Trump Jr. for meeting with a Russian lawyer who claimed to have compromising information on Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton during the campaign, saying it “borders on treason.”

“This was an effort to get opposition research on an opponent in an American political campaign from the Russians, who were known to be engaged in spying inside the United States,” Richard Painter said Sunday on MSNBC.

“We do not get our opposition research from spies, we do not collaborate with Russian spies, unless we want to be accused of treason.”

Painter said the Bush administration would not have allowed the meeting, which was attended by Trump Jr., White House senior adviser and President Trump’s son-in-law Jared Kushner and then-Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort, to happen.

“If this story is true, we’d have one of them if not both of them in custody by now, and we’d be asking them a lot of questions,” he said. “This is unacceptable. This borders on treason, if it is not itself treason.”

Laslo Spatula said...

Saturday:

"I was asked to attend the meeting by an acquaintance, but was not told the name of the person I would be meeting with beforehand."

Sunday:

"I was not told her name prior to the meeting."

Saturday:

"We primarily discussed a program about the adoption of Russian children that was active and popular with American families years ago and was since ended by the Russian government, but it was not a campaign issue at the time and there was no follow up."

Sunday:

"She then changed subjects and began discussing the adoption of Russian children and mentioned the Magnitsky Act. It became clear to me that this was the true agenda all along and that the claims of potentially helpful information were a pretext for the meeting. "

Saturday's points are not changed or refuted on Sunday: the difference is the addition of the election angle:

"I was asked to have a meeting by an acquaintance I knew from the 2013 Miss Universe pageant with an individual who I was told might have information helpful to the campaign."

While Saturday has omission, it is not a different story. Of course, the omission is of speaking of doing what people in a political campaign do: the Horror.

Next thing you know we'll find out guys buy attractive women dinner in the hopes of getting to have sex with them.

I am Laslo.

steve uhr said...

On Saturday, Jr. only mentioned that adoption was discussed. On Sunday he said that he told the lawyer that a discussion of the adoption issue was not appropriate because his dad was a private citizen. Thus, he clearly did not attend the meeting for the purpose of discussing adoption policy. Why did he attend? Does it matter or is it okay (politics as usual) to get dirt on your opponent from an (unfriendly) foreign power?

Birkel said...

Wow, a Never Trump Bush guy said "...borders... if..."

That is quite an indictment of you are a Clintonista slow coup fan.

Darrell said...

Private Russian citizen or Russian Government Employee?
When I meet Podesta or his brother, I always ask that.

Birkel said...

And note the NYT had to correct it's purported quotes. Quotes that must be corrected are paraphrases.

That is a helpful hint when one reads Pravda on the Hudson. Izvestia on the Potomac too.

Darrell said...

http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/341225-comeys-private-memos-on-trump-conversations-contained-classified?rnd=1499645596

Unknown said...

"This was Mr. Trump’s statement to the news media on Saturday:

"It was a short introductory meeting. I asked Jared and Paul to stop by. We primarily discussed a program about the adoption of Russian children that was active and popular with American families years ago and was since ended by the Russian government, but it was not a campaign issue at the time and there was no follow up.

I was asked to attend the meeting by an acquaintance, but was not told the name of the person I would be meeting with beforehand."


This is the statement Mr. Trump gave to the news media on Sunday:

"I was asked to have a meeting by an acquaintance I knew from the 2013 Miss Universe pageant with an individual who I was told might have information helpful to the campaign. I was not told her name prior to the meeting. I asked Jared and Paul to attend, but told them nothing of the substance. We had a meeting in June 2016. After pleasantries were exchanged, the woman stated that she had information that individuals connected to Russia were funding the Democratic National Committee and supporting Ms. Clinton. Her statements were vague, ambiguous and made no sense. No details or supporting information was provided or even offered. It quickly became clear that she had no meaningful information. She then changed subjects and began discussing the adoption of Russian children and mentioned the Magnitsky Act. It became clear to me that this was the true agenda all along and that the claims of potentially helpful information were a pretext for the meeting. I interrupted and advised her that my father was not an elected official, but rather a private citizen, and that her comments and concerns were better addressed if and when he held public office. The meeting lasted approximately 20 to 30 minutes. As it ended, my acquaintance apologized for taking up our time. That was the end of it and there was no further contact or follow-up of any kind. My father knew nothing of the meeting or these events."

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/09/us/donald-trump-jrs-two-different-explanations-for-russian-meeting.html

Darrell said...

Tomorrow he will add what color socks he was wearing and the Left will go crazy saying he changed his story for the third time.

Birkel said...

Darrell,

Are you saying the guy who made his bones defending the Clintons was dirty. Choir not Comey lied to Congress, leaked classified information, and participated in the Deep State attempted coup?

The deuce you say?!?

Laslo Spatula said...

Saturday:

"We PRIMARILY discussed a program about the adoption of Russian children..." (emphasis added).

steve uhr said...
"On Saturday, Jr. ONLY mentioned that adoption was discussed...." (emphasis added).

Parse.

"Does it matter or is it okay (politics as usual) to get dirt on your opponent from an (unfriendly) foreign power?"

How are they an unfriendly power? Hillary Ok'ed the uranium deal with them: they must be kosher, right?

I am Laslo.

Birkel said...

The NYT had to correct a quote. Again, if a quote is corrected that means the first quote is a paraphrase. Why should a reader trust a newspaper to play it straight when they paraphrase and claim it is a quote.

Credibility is a tricky thing, once lost.

True believers believe. News at 11.

Birkel said...

Choir boy Comey...

Birkel said...

Did the Deep State have less flexibility after the 2016 election?

Laslo Spatula said...

Seems like a lot of carnivores are now concerned how the sausage is made.

Tip: Yes, the sausage contains ASS.

I am Laslo.

eric said...

Does it matter or is it okay (politics as usual) to get dirt on your opponent from an (unfriendly) foreign power?


If your opponent is colluding with that foreign power, maybe that foreign power is the best place to obtain the evidence.

Gahrie said...

Does it matter or is it okay (politics as usual) to get dirt on your opponent from an (unfriendly) foreign power?

When did Russia become unfriendly according to the Left?

Birkel said...

If the Russians have hacked information from Hillary, does that mean her bathroom, homebrew server was less than secure?

Where did I leave my shocked face?

I wonder which set of mutually exclusive lies told in defense of Hillary Clinton Will be admitted.

Birkel said...

Gahrie,
That is an easy one: precisely when it became convenient.

clint said...

steve uhr said...
"... is it okay (politics as usual) to get dirt on your opponent from an (unfriendly) foreign power?"

Remind me... what was the source of the dossier that claimed Trump hired hookers to urinate on the bed President Obama had slept in?


Darrell said...

The Russian ambassador was beating off Democrats with a stick. They were always trying to get him to set up meeting with Russian oligarchs. You at least wind up with some nice bling when you meet one of those billionaires.

Laslo Spatula said...

I specifically wanted the sausage without ASS.

I am OK with LIPS and TONGUE and several unseemly organs, but I draw the line at ASS.

I have tasted this sausage -- and while I did not see the sausage being made -- I distinctly taste ASS.

Again: I SPECIFICALLY WANTED THE SAUSAGE WITHOUT ASS.

I am Laslo.

Laslo Spatula said...

I have eaten sausage without ASS, and I have eaten sausage WITH ASS.

I am telling you, this sausage was made with ASS.

THIS IS ASS SAUSAGE.

I am Laslo.

steve uhr said...

"How are they an unfriendly power?" Friends don't typically point nuclear warheads at each other.

I agree with Trump that it is better to get along with Russia than not. I still think it is a bad idea to knowingly get dirt on an opponent from any foreign power. Won't they feel entitled to something in return? Like a golf couse perhaps

Darrell said...

Remind me... what was the source of the dossier that claimed Trump hired hookers to urinate on the bed President Obama had slept in?

Well, it was 4Chan, originally. to troll a NeverTrumper. Some bolshie Brit that worked for MI6 put it in a file and sold it to McCain. Those Fusion GPS idiots were trying to peddle the same crap, too.

Laslo Spatula said...

How can I be more clear?

How can you not see this?

THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SAUSAGE WITH NO ASS AND SAUSAGE WITH ASS.

YOU ARE SUPPORTING ASS SAUSAGE.

YOU ARE ASS SAUSAGE SUPPORTERS.

I do not eat ASS.

I am Laslo.

Chuck said...

What exactly is the evidence that Fusion GPS set up the meeting with Don Trump Jr., Jared Kushner and the Russian lawyer?

My general understanding is that the meeting was set up by someone who also had some undescribed connection with Fusion GPS. That is hardly an activity by Fusion GPS.

Jamie Gorelick has loads of connections with the Democratic Party and the Obama Administration. And yet she is Jared Kushner's lawyer. Does that mean that Jared Kushner is being defended by the Democrats and Obama?

This is a straight, open question: what exactly is the trace of any action "by" Fusion GPS in this case?

bgates said...

I do not eat ASS.

I am Laslo.


Pretty sure the second line disproves the first.

Laslo Spatula said...

@ bgates: Ha! Well played!

I am Laslo.

Laslo Spatula said...

"Friends don't typically point nuclear warheads at each other."

And enemies don't sell each other Uranium reserves.

Ipso Facto Lorum Ipsum.

I am Laslo.

clint said...

Darrell said...
""Remind me... what was the source of the dossier that claimed Trump hired hookers to urinate on the bed President Obama had slept in?"

"Well, it was 4Chan, originally. to troll a NeverTrumper. Some bolshie Brit that worked for MI6 put it in a file and sold it to McCain. Those Fusion GPS idiots were trying to peddle the same crap, too."

I could have sworn I read somewhere that the Brit got the urination bit from a Russian businessman with ties to their government. Ah... here it is:
http://dailycaller.com/2017/03/17/photos-trump-dossier-source-met-with-kremlin-crony-at-russian-expo/

Darrell said...

Wait a second. Didn't some prominent Democrats ask foreign intelligence organizations to take Trump out? Presumably with information in their files, of course.

Darrell said...

Well then, the Brit might have been acting in good faith, not knowing that it came from 4Chan. But make no mistake about that. IT WAS MADE UP BY 4Chan. They proved it with time stamped entries. So a Russian businessman sold the 4Chan stuff to the Brit, who sold it to McCain.

Unknown said...


"And enemies don't sell each other Uranium reserves."

Ipse Dixit

bgates said...

Unknown @6:56:

Fuck yeah, potentially

Fuck yeah, potentially?


Laslo Spatula said...

Not only do I STRONGLY SUSPECT that there is ASS in this SAUSAGE, I also believe the ASS has been ASS-FUCKED.

I do not want ASS-FUCKED ASS in my ASS SAUSAGE.

If I have to have ASS SAUSAGE.

Which I do not want.

I am Laslo.

chickelit said...

"After pleasantries were exchanged, the woman stated that she had information that individuals connected to Russia were funding the Democratic National Committee and supporting Ms. Clinton."

I missed that statement in Trump, Jr's statement first time around. Interesting!

Darrell said...

If I have to have ASS SAUSAGE.


Fusion GPS is known for their might fine ass sausage. Maybe that is the connection Chuck is looking for.

Drago said...

Never Trumper establishment lawyers and Mother Jones.

'nuff said.

Lol

Michael K said...

Leftie circle jerk.

Not something I am interested in.

Nice dinner this evening. Scallops and black rice.

Key lime tart for dessert.

Hope you did as well.

Laslo Spatula said...

To be clear: I do NOT intend the condemnation of ASS-FUCKED ASS SAUSAGE to be a slur against possible SAUSAGE ANIMAL LIFESTYLES.

THAT IS NOT THE POINT.

DON'T EVEN TRY THAT WITH ME.

I am Laslo.

Darrell said...

In April 2016, two months before the June report that alleged a Russian conspiracy, former President Barack Obama appointed Steven Chabinsky, the general counsel and chief risk officer for CrowdStrike, to the Commission on Enhancing National Cybersecurity.

The only source for this claim of Russian involvement in the DNC "hack" is CrowdStrike, who began monitoring the DNC system on May 5th, 2016. The DNC also reportedly paid $168,000 to CrowdStrike.

Co-Founder and CTO of CrowdStrike Dmitri Alperovitch is a nonresident senior fellow on the Atlantic Council. The Atlantic Council is also funded by the “Open Society Initiative for Europe,” a program of leftist billionaire George Soros’ Open Society Foundation. The Atlantic Council is also funded by the Victor Pinchuk Foundation. Pinchuk is a Ukrainian billionaire who reportedly gave $25 million to the Clinton Foundation, and was invited to Clinton’s home for a dinner in 2012 while she was secretary of state, despite an earlier denial from a Clinton spokesperson that “never on her schedule” during her time as Secretary.

CrowdStrike received $100 million in investments led by Google Capital (since re-branded as CapitalG) in 2015. CapitalG is owned by Alphabet, and Eric Schmidt, Alphabet’s chairman, was a supporter of Hillary Clinton in the 2016 election. More than just supporting Clinton, leaked emails from Wikileaks in November 2016 showed that in 2014 he wanted to have an active role in the campaign.

http://dailycaller.com/2017/06/24/crowdstrike-five-things-everyone-is-ignoring-about-the-russia-dnc-story/

This is how ass sausage is made.

Drago said...

"Leftie circle jerk."

Leftie/"lifetime republican" circle jerk.

chickelit said...

Unknown accused...Liar. Oh yes, you do care a great deal about it. You wouldn't have spent the last 6 months denying collusion if you wouldn't have cared about it.

When did you stop beating your sausage?

bgates said...

When did Russia become unfriendly according to the Left?

That's my favorite part of this story. The Left loved Russia every day between when they assassinated the Czar's family and the time in 2012 when Obama assured Medvedev he'd side with Putin against the American electorate. I guess once Putin made the Olympics less gay-celebratory than they wanted, that's when the relationship soured.

chickelit said...

"After pleasantries were exchanged, the woman stated that she had information that individuals connected to Russia were funding the Democratic National Committee and supporting Ms. Clinton."

That smells like Soros. He's been awfully quiet lately. But then there's been nothing to short but Democrat futures.

Fabi said...

"My general understanding is that the meeting was set up by someone who also had some undescribed connection with Fusion GPS."

Do you have a link for that rather unique "general understanding"?

chickelit said...

bgates noted I guess once Putin made the Olympics less gay-celebratory than they wanted, that's when the relationship soured.

That may be coincidence, but the timing is spot-on.

pacwest said...

"This is a straight, open question: what exactly is the trace of any action "by" Fusion GPS in this case?"

No trace directly to the action you are talking about as far as I can tell anyway. The connections do seem less tenuous than Trump/Russia collusion. There is a hell of a lot of smoke and the Democrats can't keep it blowing at Trump much longer without the source being exposed.

Drago said...

"That smells like Soros. He's been awfully quiet lately. But then there's been nothing to short but Democrat futures."

Not really. The recently resigned (just ahead of the end of his tenure to make a splash) head of the he office of govt ethics just took a job with a Soros funded organization.

Unexpectedly.

And there's always black lives matter, amongst others.

Darrell said...

If they Democrats didn't have legal, moral, and ethical breeches to hide, showing their files would have been no big deal. Just a bunch of pictures of Democrats playing with bunnies at their annual picnic. The Media never covered the leaks anyway. It was always about the "hack."

Lucien said...

Laslo needs to be assuaged about ass sausage. Maybe a job for Assange.

Jon Ryan said...

ann, i have been reading you for close to 9 years. i like your posts. this is my second foray into the comments in 9 years. i really don't know how you put up with this. there is no winning in a comments section. what is the point? it is like two drunken idiots yelling profanities at each other. you post less since you have retired, i wondered if you would post more if you didn't have to referee this turd flinging contest. and i will not check the email follow up comments box because it's not worth my time.

chickelit said...

The link is back to not working for me on all devices.

"access denied"

Darrell said...

New meta-analysis has emerged from a document published today by an independent researcher known as The Forensicator, which suggests that files eventually published by the Guccifer 2.0 persona were likely initially downloaded by a person with physical access to a computer possibly connected to the internal DNC network. The individual most likely used a USB drive to copy the information. The groundbreaking new analysis irrevocably destroys the Russian hacking narrative, and calls the actions of Crowdstrike and the DNC into question.
https://tinyurl.com/y9zfrqdj

Copy of Ace comment by Justaguy

Darrell said...

Thank you, Jon. Your concern is noted. Don't let the door hit your Lefty ass on the way out.

chickelit said...

you post less since you have retired, i wondered if you would post more if you didn't have to referee this turd flinging contest.

Seriously? The turd flinging is pretty light tonight. I do subscribe to comments which shows everything -- even what Althouse or Meade delete. There haven't been any deletions or need to referee.

Achilles said...

I can cut and paste too.

Obama Tells Trump: Stop ‘Whining’ and Trying to Discredit the Election

---OCT. 18, 2016---

At a news conference in the White House Rose Garden, Mr. Obama said, “I have never seen in my lifetime, or in modern political history, any presidential candidate trying to discredit the elections and the election process before votes have even taken place.”

There is no evidence, he said, that a presidential election has ever been rigged. He said there was little indication that it could be, given that elections are run by state and local authorities, with people from both parties supervising polling sites and ballot counting.


That is from Obama's own mouth. Anyone still pushing this Russia collusion crap is a traitor.

But it gets better. Obama said that AFTER he had been briefed in AUGUST:

The Washington Post is reporting Friday morning that President Barack Obama knew in August that Russian President Vladimir Putin was waging an extraordinary cyberwar on the U.S. presidential campaign, both to discredit the election and try to help Donald Trump win. The Obama administration did not publicly acknowledge all of this until after the election, in December.

How much better would our country be without the traitorous shitheads pushing this garbage?

Mr. Majestyk said...

Lest anyone be snookered by Unknown's comment at 6:56 claiming that Trump called on Russia to hack Hillary Clinton, let's consider the broader context of what Trump said. In that news conference, Trump began his comments on the issue by saying that he thought Russia "probably already [had] the 33,000 missing and deleted emails" (you know, the ones on Hillary's illegal and unsecured home-brew server). He then said the part Unknown quoted: "Russia, if you're listening, I hope you are able to find the 30,000 mising emails." It sounds like he is saying, essentially, 'Russia, I hope you can find the missing emails that you probably have already obtained.' This is supported by a later tweet, in which he said, "If Russia or any country or other person has Hillary Clinton's 33,000 illegally deleted emails, perhaps they should share them with the FBI." Note he said "has," present tense. In any event, how could Russia hack a server in the hands of the FBI as part of a criminal investigation? Doesn't make sense.

chickelit said...

And there's always black lives matter, amongst others.

BLM has toned it down since the law suits amped up. Soros is buying them the best defense that money can buy. Considering how much money he wasted on the last election, and with no coherent strategy going forward to meddle in US elections, perhaps he's licking wounds.

Jon Ryan said...

darell, you don't know me, or my affiliations. in fact i think you would be pleasantly surprised.

chickelit, i don't foray into the comments often, so i'm sure it has been much worse. maybe i was being a little harsh, but it was my two cents for now.

Fabi said...

They planned for it to go away when Hillary won, Achilles -- never to be discussed again.

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