June 3, 2017

"Seven people are feared dead after three men with 12-inch hunting knives reportedly stabbed pedestrians after mowing down up to 20 people with a white van on London Bridge."

"The men, described as being 'of Mediterranean origin', reportedly jumped out of the van and began 'randomly stabbing people' along Borough High Street in central London at 10pm. The car, believed to be a B&Q vehicle, reportedly veered in an 'S shape' at 50mph across the bridge and has driven towards the Shard and is south of the river.... One woman said she saw three people with what appeared to be their throats cut on London Bridge amid reports that at least seven people have been stabbed, leaving bodies 'strewn' on the road in central London...."

The Daily Mail reports.

183 comments:

M Trumble said...

Friggen Unitarians strike again. When will we admit there is an ideological and religious issue, that has nothing to do with "race" or "racism"?

Islam has a problem, and until they address it, they own it.

Rusthawk said...

Londonistan. Melanie Phillips laid it all out in 2005. And here we are.

Yancey Ward said...

When it happens every day, you will get used to it- it will become background noise.

mockturtle said...

'of Mediterranean origin'

Greeks, no doubt.

Gahrie said...

There will come a tipping point at which the violence will cease to be one way, and then things will get truly tragic. If I was a Muslim living in the UK, I'd be looking for a new home by now.

Matthew Sablan said...

I go out to take pictures of wildlife, and I come back to terror in the news. Makes me wonder why I bother reading the news.

Yancey Ward said...

Gahrie wrote:

"There will come a tipping point at which the violence will cease to be one way, and then things will get truly tragic. If I was a Muslim living in the UK, I'd be looking for a new home by now."

This.

3rdGradePB_GoodPerson said...

"Friggen Unitarians strike again."

Unlike the knifer in Portland, none of these people will turn out to be named Christian.

Limiting these killers to knives rather than more effective killing weapons is good. But, there could be a higher level of terror with these more rudimentary weapons. In some ways, terror seems inverse to the lethality of the weapons used. E.g., using water or fire (which are everyday nonlethal things) to drown and burn people to death maxes out on horror, imho.

Rae said...

What's to be said that hasn't already? What our leaders are doing isn't working. There will be more attacks until policies change.

Michael said...

I am considering opening a teddy bear and candle shop in London. Because there will be another day tomorrow of "this is not who we are" and "please stop the hatred against our Muslim fellows." And in a few days or weeks there will be another of these.

The Brits should give the Religion of Peace Community six months to clean up or every single one of them will be deported, citizen or no.

M Trumble said...

All politics aside, if someone shows up at your door, asking for shelter, it is important to ask if they want you dead. This seems axiomatic.

But in today's post-modern Topsy-turvey world, just asking the question makes one a racist. Just saying, "Hey, you don't seem to share our values." is a judgement that should never be made. The 60's "I'm Okay, You're Okay" is bearing fruit, as bad ideas always do, eventually.

"he was a handsome man
and what i want to know is
how do you like your blue-eyed boy
Mister Death"

Sebastian said...

As John Kerry told us long ago, "We have to get back to the place we were, where terrorists are not the focus of our lives, but they're a nuisance." Hey, John, are we at that place yet?

Deal with the nuisance, Brits. You invited them in. It appears any number of victims is worth holding on to your enlightened multiculti self-regard.

Gahrie said...

The Brits should give the Religion of Peace Community six months to clean up or every single one of them will be deported, citizen or no.

If this keeps up, they're going to start boarding Muslims up in buildings and burning them alive....

DanTheMan said...

Is it too soon to worry about the inevitable backlash against Muslims?

DanTheMan said...

Because unlike the last 50 times, it's going to happen this time.

Oh, and Tim McVeigh.

sinz52 said...

It took no more than an hour for the "real" threat to be identified: Islamophobia!

https://twitter.com/search?q=islamophobia&ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Enews%7Ctwgr%5Esearch

Gahrie said...

Is it too soon to worry about the inevitable backlash against Muslims?

One is building.....it will be really ugly....but to be honest, at this point they have it coming.

I knew the England I loved was dead when Rotterham broke, and there was no response from the yobs.

Bob Boyd said...

"The men, described as being 'of Mediterranean origin'..."

So they were like...mermen?

zipity said...



Not to worry. John Kerry assured me this is just another nuisance.

http://www.cnsnews.com/news...

Obviously by white conservative militant Anglicans, no doubt.

Bill said...

Break out the candles!

Break out the hashtags!

Condemn Islamaphobia!

Rinse and repeat . . .

Pianoman said...

According to https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/ , over 30000 Islamic terrorist attacks have taken place since 9/11/01.

BUT TIMOTHY MCVEIGH!

320Busdriver said...

Macedonia again?

DanTheMan said...

>>Obviously by white conservative militant Anglicans, no doubt.

Stop speculating!!
We have no proof that they were Anglicans.
Stop spreading Anglicaphobia!

320Busdriver said...

Borders?

Who needs borders?

Original Mike said...


Step 1: An incident
Step 2: Wild speculation
Step 3: Rampant Islamophobia
Every.
Time.


You'd think typing "Every. Time." would have given her pause....

Michael K said...

Damned Italians again.

DanTheMan said...
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Humperdink said...

The Muslims ... er ..... Mediterraneans should take a tip from Evergreen State, insist all the whites flee.

And there will be peace.

chickelit said...

Londonstan's mayor calls this just a big city risk.

Britain needs less "May" and more "Will" and "Shall."

M Trumble said...

There will be a von Clausewitz moment in the future. It is coming.

Someday, someone will say to Muslims worldwide: "See Mecca? That's our next target. Next attack on innocents? It disappears."

Sadly, maybe, that is what it will take. Islam needs to reform, not the west. They are the backward child.

DanTheMan said...

>>Step 2: Wild speculation

99% accuracy is wild?

Clyde said...

The safe number of Muslim immigrants remains zero.

Etienne said...

One of the reasons the UK unarmed all of its citizens, was that the police would protect them.

Pft...

Lydia said...

Disturbing, those photos in the linked Daily Mail article of the police ordering Londoners in the area to leave with their hands behind their heads.

Mr Wibble said...

If the Crown will not protect British citizens, what use do British citizens have for the Crown?

Gahrie said...

Is Islamaphobia irrational at this point?

Etienne said...

My advise would be to set up internment camps for Moslems, until such time as they can be taken to the middle of the Atlantic and released.

3rdGradePB_GoodPerson said...

"The Muslims ... er ..... Mediterraneans should take a tip from Evergreen State, insist all the whites flee."

BTW, this is a great interview w/ the dude at the center of that:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xq4Y87idawk

I was struck by how non-insane this guy seamed because 1) in my neck Evergreen has always been known to be loserville, and 2) I thought it went w/o saying that all Berners were nuts.

But, this guy seemed reasonable in some ways. OTOH, he seemed to be hiding some sorta Commie takeover thingy. But, from my POV seeing that anyone from Evergreen could speak sans drooling was impressive.


madAsHell said...

I'm guessing the Bobbie's are asking for firearms.

Overall, I think concealed carry will become VERY popular.

Clyde said...

Original Mike said...

Step 1: An incident
Step 2: Wild speculation
Step 3: Rampant Islamophobia
Every.
Time.

You'd think typing "Every. Time." would have given her pause....


A phobia is an unreasonable fear of something or someone. Given the number of terrorist attacks perpetrated by Muslims around the world, being afraid of them is NOT unreasonable. I feel the same way about Muslims that I do about rattlesnakes. I'm willing to live and let live, but I sure as hell am not going to invite them into my home. I don't think we should invite them into our country, either. Their values are incompatible with ours. And I'm not talking about the rattlesnakes!

mockturtle said...

chickelit reports: Londonstan's mayor calls this just a big city risk.

The mayor of London is, of course, a Muslim.

Fen said...

"Mediterranean? Mermen?"

They mean Exotic you yahoo. Cultured and Civilized. Not like us deplorables. They were likely motivated by those rising sea levels Europe was going on about yesterday. Too bad about the dead people, but I'm really hoping there isn't a backlash against Mediterraneans. That would be so tragic.

Oh almost forgot- thoughts and prayers with __fill_in_blank__. Hashtag No Hate. Hashtag Carry On. Changing my avatars to the Tricolor to show solidarity. What's tbat? Oh it's close enough. The main point is that I care. Look at me, pouty selfie, look how much I care!

Angel-Dyne said...

Gahrie: There will come a tipping point at which the violence will cease to be one way, and then things will get truly tragic. If I was a Muslim living in the UK, I'd be looking for a new home by now.

Things are already truly tragic.

The tipping point has come and gone. If there hasn't been a meaningful reaction in Europe by now I doubt it's to come. Every institution of state and society is allied with the Muslims against the natives. Apart from being "collateral damage" in mass attacks on infidels, or an extremely rare "backlash" attack, the Muslims have nothing to fear. The only people who have been, are, and will be "looking for a new home" are the native Europeans.

320Busdriver said...

Countdown to the authorities and their realization that so and so was a known quantity and recently traveled to ME country (b) and returned just a few days ago..
Tamerlan Tzarnaev ring a bell?

Earnest Prole said...

These Islamists seem really upset with us, but maybe if we sacrifice Bill Maher they'll cut us some slack.

320Busdriver said...

Actually, I believe that piece of human garbage T TZ was able to return to the USA from the Caucus region undetected despite numerous warnings from Russia.

Comanche Voter said...

Ah well. My bet is that at least one of these attackers was named "Mo" as in Mohammed. When I'm in London I frequently visit the Borough Market--and after all there is a place in the Market called the Ginger Pig. It's a good butcher shop and sells all kinds of pork and pork sausages. So I assume these guys were maddened by the sale of pork--or something like that.

Fen said...

Angel is correct. Europeans are in that syndrome - I forget the name - where everyone believes they are the only ones thinking "this is bullshit".

madAsHell said...

This is a business opportunity. Smuggling Glocks into the UK.

MaxedOutMama said...

What's disturbing is that it was three men. I guess the response to the security sweep after the Manchester Bombing was to get slaughtering while they still could.

UK police have declared this to be terrorism, possibly because witnesses described the attackers hollering about Allah.

I really don't know what to say or think. This is quite awful. It's a long time till Ramadan is over.

Pianoman said...

Stockholm Syndrome?

exiledonmainstreet said...

'of Mediterranean origin'

The Mafia strikes again! Damn Sicilians.

3rdGradePB_GoodPerson said...

"This is a business opportunity. Smuggling Glocks into the UK."

Are the smugglers gonna have a background check? Ya know, to screen for Moooooslims?

Gahrie said...

Angel is correct. Europeans are in that syndrome - I forget the name - where everyone believes they are the only ones thinking "this is bullshit".

Which is why it will only take one house full of Muslims being burnt down to get things started...people will figure out they're not alone. I am actually pretty surprised it hasn't happened yet. In the England I grew up in, a gang of yobs would have already done so.

Bill said...

Sicilians? Don't be ridiculous. It was those damn Maltese AGAIN.

TwilightofLiberty.com said...

Celebrate that diversity, London. It truly is your greatest strength. Hooray for diversity, says I. Hoo. Ray.

David Begley said...

But more Brits will die in their bathtubs tonight per Barack.

exiledonmainstreet said...


chickelit reports: Londonstan's mayor calls this just a big city risk "

Goodness, I'm no ancient I can remember when it was possible to take an evening stroll in London without having to worry about getting your throat slit.

Marc Puckett said...

I've been switching back and forth between the Guardian's livestream and the Telegraph's, and neither one of those newspapers has reported such numbers-- neither enjoys the sense of license that the DM does, I reckon; will be interesting to see how the actual number of casualties and fatalities compares to the DM numbers.

Corsicans. My twenty bucks is on the Corsican monarchists.

Marc Puckett said...

"Some 40 minutes after his original reflex response, Trump sent out a second tweet, making a political point from the unfolding horror in London, arguing that it added weight to his efforts to get a travel ban imposed on travellers from six predominantly Muslim countries. Trump’s executive order has been blocked by a succession of courts and the matter is now before the supreme court." Julian Borger at the G. "After his original reflex response"-- the gall of these people. On the other hand, this line of reporting has required them to reproduce Drudge, which has publicised the '20 people down' figure.

Angel-Dyne said...

David Begley: But more Brits will die in their bathtubs tonight per Barack.

Ya know, as often as I've seen that particular brand of logic deployed, I don't think I've ever seen it used when the perps are of the deplorable caste.

The Vault Dweller said...

I know lots and lots of people have been asking themselves this for a while, but it is time our alleged leaders in the West started publicly asking and trying to figure out what is it that makes certain Muslim and their adherence to Islam become terrorists. And then more importantly follow through on what they figure out to protect people.

M Trumble said...

Corsicans and Macedonian hackers. The world is mad, but you're okay.

Unknown said...

I don't know about you, but I put the French flag on my photo and posted the French parliament (or senat or whatever it is) singing the Marseillaise because I am getting damn fucking sick of Moslems attacking my fellow members of western civ. I thought that was what all of that meant, at the time. Hope I didn't unwittingly perpetuate nothing-to-see-here-ism.
Th as t said, could we please stop talking about burning families alive in their houses? What are we, Hindus?

Temujin said...

Angel-Dyne is correct. Europe is dying and it's happening not with a fight, but with a willing whimper.
Read "The Strange Death of Europe" by Douglas Murray.
Purchase it though the Althouse portal. Very detailed account of a culture walking through it's own end.

Che Dolf said...

Someday, someone will say to Muslims worldwide: "See Mecca? That's our next target. Next attack on innocents? It disappears."

Muslims aren't the main problem, and genociding them isn't the solution.

The problem is Westerners who insist we need to admit large numbers of Muslims into our countries.

M Trumble said...

True. But keep pushing for the Caliphate? Eventually, it is war.

exiledonmainstreet said...

"I know lots and lots of people have been asking themselves this for a while, but it is time our alleged leaders in the West started publicly asking and trying to figure out what is it that makes certain Muslim and their adherence to Islam become terrorists"

I don't think it's that tough to figure out. As bin Laden said, people like the strong horse.

Islam looks ascendant and confident and the West looks weak and self-hating.

Drago said...

Che Dolf: "The problem is Westerners who insist we need to admit large numbers of Muslims into our countries."

The left recognizes allies in their struggle to destroy western civilization in order to create a leftist people's paradise.

Already you see PB doing what he can to make fun of and minimize this latest attack.

Bob Boyd said...

Now that Trump has guaranteed that sea levels will continue to rise, the number of merman attacks will only increase. It's a clash of civilizations.

Just one thing bothers me. How did the merman push in the clutch pedal? That's what I don't get. They must have had help.

Quaestor said...

The men, described as being 'of Mediterranean origin'

Give a warm round of applause to the Right Honourable Sadiq Khan, Mayor of Greater London for his outstanding management of the Metropolitan Police. Not only are they first and foremost the home of Anglosphere's most PC PCs, their sensitivity has grown to the point that they'd rather insult and denigrate Italians, Greeks, Cypriots, Maltese, and the Spaniards than impugn even slightly the delicate feelings of Muslims, the world's victims. Who else but the evil West is responsible for their ignorance, their abuse of women and homosexuals, their murderous rages against other Muslims who have different opinions about 7th-century politics?

n.n said...

Black lives matter. All lives do not matter.

Pro-Choice. Principles don't matter. Judge people by the "color of their skin".

Resist what?

Throw another baby on the barbie, this civilization is progressive, and the terrorists know it.

That said, Obama's legacy of aborting national Muslims, forcing catastrophic anthropogenic immigration reform, and democratically elected Ukrainians is secure.

sinz52 said...

If these terrorists are like the terrorists in Manchester, then they're not immigrants. They're native-born Brits.

Seeing Red said...

There go those Baptists again!

Angel-Dyne said...

Che Dolf:

Muslims aren't the main problem, and genociding them isn't the solution.

The problem is Westerners who insist we need to admit large numbers of Muslims into our countries.


True, but when the latter get what they want the former then become "the main problem". Since we didn't horsewhip the ultimate cause of the problem out of town, we have to figure out what to do about the proximate cause, it having become rather more pressing.

Point of pedantry: Not that I have any interest in doing either, but nuking a holy city wouldn't be "genocide". (Horsewhipping the ultimate causes of the problem, though, I'm down with that. Not because it isn't too late for that to have any effect on the now existing problem. But just because.)

Seeing Red said...

And NBC is vile.

exiledonmainstreet said...

Quaestor, this is something new. The usual description in the UK is "Asian" because, as you know, Chinese chefs are prone to violence when they burn the Kung Pao chicken and there might still be ancient Japanese soldiers out there who haven't heard they lost and are planning kamikaze attacks.

Etienne said...

madAsHell said...This is a business opportunity. Smuggling Glocks into the UK.

The problem with that, is that Brits are notorious snitches. They will rat you out for a pint. Hell, they'll rent their mother for a pint.

DanTheMan said...

>>They stabbed this girl maybe ten, 15 times. She was saying 'help me, help me'."
He claimed he had hit one of the attackers on the back of the head by throwing things at him, and was chased, but escaped unharmed.


We must all denounce this vile and hateful act...of throwing beer bottles at Muslims.


Original Mike said...

"The problem is Westerners who insist we need to admit large numbers of Muslims into our countries."

The only viable strategy does appear to be keeping the Muslim population as low as possible. Of course that horse has already bolted the barn in Britian.

exiledonmainstreet said...


"Already you see PB doing what he can to make fun of and minimize this latest attack."

Drago, it's not like the terrorists broke a reporter's glasses! 'Cause that really made PB wet his Spiderman briefs! That was serious!

DanTheMan said...

>>"They were running up saying 'this is for Allah'. 

So, definitely Sicilians then.

"Yo! Dis is for alla ima gonna do to you!"



n.n said...

Double-edged, reusable scalpels used to commit elective abortions. They should have hidden their targets behind a privacy veil in an abortion chamber. I guess not everyone was on board with Obama's elective wars, but they agree with the rite to Choose. They're probably not fond of liberal fiscal policies that redistribute debt and devalue currency in the poorest nations. At least they have CAIR and Planned Parenthood to manage catastrophic anthropogenic climate change forced by democratic disenfranchisement.`

traditionalguy said...

American Sniper is on TNT right now. The Islamic Terrorists are savages. And many good men died for Iraq...and the Muslim Fifth Columnist fake American installed by the Dems gave it all away . Now his Federal Judges want it imported to the USA ASAP.

Anybody that ever votes any Democrat into an office again is insane.

Quaestor said...

If these terrorists are like the terrorists in Manchester, then they're not immigrants. They're native-born Brits.

Which makes them traitors as well as murderers.

This makes me wonder if death by slow torture isn't justifiable. Check out the history of the trial and punishment of the regicides.

TWW said...

I will stop blaming Muslims for killing us when they stop trying to kill us.

hawkeyedjb said...

Sorry, all of you who think the inevitable war against the Muslims in Europe is coming - it isn't. The worst reaction will be a few words of condemnation, and these will be denounced as islamophobia (the worst crime on earth). Then on to the next attack. Europeans have allowed themselves to be disarmed and emasculated, to the point most of them have no will to fight back, and no idea how. Europe's leaders have the subjects they want- docile, beaten, and willing to take anything, even the loss of their country and their culture. They won't fight, and there will be no Churchill to rally them. (If Churchill arrived on the scene today he would be put on trial, just like Wilders in Holland.)

wildswan said...

Warnings haven't worked. Now we have to wait for people to see the consequences of the policies they have chosen. They, then, will choose differently. It's all so slow and so sad.

David Baker said...

The Brits apparently have a very high tolerance for this stuff. Otherwise a hundred mosques would now be burning. And Mecca would be in lock-down.

DanTheMan said...

>>most of them have no will to fight back

Perhaps they are afraid that if they respond aggressively, the 2M strong foreign army already in their country will rise up, and they might well lose that battle.



320Busdriver said...

We're gonna need another batch of COEXIST bumper stickers

Paul said...

Ah.. the 'religion of peace' shows itself again.

They just guaranteed Trumps travel ban will go forward. We surely don't need these kind of people in the USA.

Angel-Dyne said...

DantheMan to hawkeyedjb:

>>most of them have no will to fight back

Perhaps they are afraid that if they respond aggressively, the 2M strong foreign army already in their country will rise up, and they might well lose that battle.


If they possessed any will to fight back, that 2M strong foreign army wouldn't have grown in their country in the first place.

It's not as if they just woke up one morning and there it was.

Virgil Hilts said...

What the western intel agencies need to do is recruit would be jihadists to travel to training camps at which the students simply disappear and are never heard from again. After this happens enough times and word gets around it becomes harder to recruit these would be jihadists. The agencies can even start spreading rumors that real camps and real recruiters are agency fronts. I like to think this has already been started. I've noticed that we are not adding prisoners to GTMO - only 41 left.

Bill, Republic of Texas said...

I agree with Hawkeyedjb.

The Brits are done. They'll ignore this and Manchester and vote for more Labour because the Tories want to cut NHS. More Labour=more surrender to Muslim extremist.

Europe is done. France just voted for national suicide for fear of voting for that ikey LaPen family.

eric said...

The new, "My eight year old asked why President Trump wants to kill us all by not joining the Paris Accords" is....

"Immediately after this attack a Muslim driving a taxi picked me up and gave me a free ride and cried and prayed with me."

Lewis Wetzel said...

I wonder if the Lefties realize how much cred they lose with the voters with their "This has nothing to do with Islam!" cant. Everyone knows that Islamic terrorism is a world wide problem, even the people who publicly say that it isn't. It makes people on the Left look foolish and unworthy of governing. I can't think of any similar issue on the Right, where pundits and politicians simply insist that a problem doesn't exist because they philosophically are unable to admit a thing is a problem because they have no solution for it. Since the Leftist position is absolutist (they have the best answer for any social problem), it is a fatal flaw. I doubt if the Islamists are going to make the problem go away by simply going away themselves.

Brookzene said...

This ought to be something that unites all Americans, at least temporarily while we offer our thoughts and prayers to the victims without a lot of acrimony and accusations.

Angel-Dyne said...

320Busdriver: We're gonna need another batch of COEXIST bumper stickers

A few weeks ago I pulled in to park behind a Prius. On the left side of its bumper was a COEXIST sticker. On the right, in large stark lettering, one that read "MOAB".

Wonder if our SWPL Utah recreation enthusiast got the joke.

Tarrou said...

No sympathy anymore. Anyone who allows Muslims to live in their country at this stage of the game has no right to complain, the US included. This was always the goal. This was always what the left wanted.If you are not currently resisting, you are complicit.

320Busdriver said...

"Trump's ignorant view of Islam could make both our countries less safe. It risks alienating mainstream Muslims. London has proved him wrong"

The Mayor of London May 10, 2017

You really can't make this shit up

mockturtle said...

People, did it ever occur to you to ask why Muslims have invaded virtually every nation on the planet? Iceland? ICELAND??!! Answer: It's NOT because they're seeking a better life.

Angel-Dyne said...

Brookzene: This ought to be something that unites all Americans, at least temporarily while we offer our thoughts and prayers to the victims without a lot of acrimony and accusations.

Clown World: Where Inanity Becomes Obscenity...

Lewis Wetzel said...

Blogger Brookzene said...
This ought to be something that unites all Americans, at least temporarily while we offer our thoughts and prayers to the victims without a lot of acrimony and accusations.

6/3/17, 9:01 PM

What do you think killed these people, Benzene? An earthquake? This is an active voice crime. People chose to do this. Acrimony and accusations are entirely appropriate.

Original Mike said...

"This ought to be something that unites all Americans, at least temporarily while we offer our thoughts and prayers to the victims without a lot of acrimony and accusations."

Then we kill the terrorists, right?

Bill, Republic of Texas said...

I can't think of any similar issue on the Right

Tax cuts for the rich!

mockturtle said...

Brookzene bleats inanely: This ought to be something that unites all Americans, at least temporarily while we offer our thoughts and prayers to the victims without a lot of acrimony and accusations.

Right, Benzene! A few candlelight vigils ought to make it right.

mockturtle said...

Oh, and praying 'to the victims' will not be as effective praying to God for the victims.

DanTheMan said...
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mockturtle said...

Think of 'mainstream Muslims' as the cheering crowd at the football game where the jihadis are scoring touchdowns.

exiledonmainstreet said...

mockturtle said...
Oh, and praying 'to the victims' will not be as effective praying to God for the victims.

6/3/17, 9:12 PM

It's a cliche but God helps those who help themselves. The Europeans, who no longer pray to any God, seem incapable of helping themselves.

Earnest Prole said...

Someday, someone will say to Muslims worldwide: "See Mecca? That's our next target. Next attack on innocents? It disappears."

Osama bin Laden said his merry band of terrorists were powerless to defeat the West because the great majority of Muslims wanted nothing to do with him and his death cult. So bin Laden reasoned that if his death crew could trick the West into a gross overreaction that shocked and provoked all Muslims, he might get the death with a capital D he'd been dreaming about. Are you sure you're not one of his cavemates?

DanTheMan said...

"It risks alienating mainstream Muslims"

That's a very plain threat, from a Muslim to Non Muslims:

You better be nice and polite to us, or else we will become "alienated".

And we all know what alienated Muslims do, right?

Original Mike said...

"It risks alienating mainstream Muslims."

Mainstream Muslims have shown themselves to be unable or unwilling to do anything about it.

mockturtle said...

Exiled says: It's a cliche but God helps those who help themselves.

As you probably know, it's from Aesop: The gods help those who help themselves.

But, yes, the Europeans lost their balls a long time ago. England, too. I'm almost glad my husband isn't alive to see it.

Char Char Binks said...

Dog bites man. *yawn*. Wake me up when there's actual news.

Michael K said...

"The Brits are done. "

Yes, I'm afraid they are, At least London and the midlands. The Brits I know are clustering in the southeast coastal area.

They are mostly older, like me, and they probably avoid London. My friends told us to walk around their small coastal city. He said, "If you see a brown face, it is a NHS doctor."

And it was true. All English faces.

The TV series "Doc Martin" is a huge hit in Britain for 15 years. It is set in a coastal town called Port Wenn in the series but is Port Isaac and is a huge tourist attraction.

I don't know what will happen in London, I used to lve visiting and knew all the places I liked. Not anymore.

3rdGradePB_GoodPerson said...

LW: "(they have the best answer for any social problem), it is a fatal flaw."

B,RoT: "Tax cuts for the rich!"

Sure, it sounds far fetched when ya say it that way.

Instead say "tax cuts for the job creators," that's what solves all problems (especially when combined w/ deregulating environmental, safety and employee benefit burdens that harm the job creators). Also, secondarily, it's important to avoid the wrath of the big guy upstairs by not letting homos and such run amok.


Carry on.

3rdGradePB_GoodPerson said...

"I used to love visiting and knew all the places I liked."

Well, for those of us still willing to go back, in about a month for the F1 race, what would you recommend?

Ken B said...

Earnest Prole is not telling the truth. Bin Laden actually predicted that dropping the towers would cause westerners to convert to Islam en masse, not "provoke an over reaction."

Ken B said...

3rdGrade,
Try the Borough Market.

Lewis Wetzel said...

Instead say "tax cuts for the job creators," that's what solves all problems (especially when combined w/ deregulating environmental, safety and employee benefit burdens that harm the job creators)
Do you know what a "straw man" argument is, PB&J?
I can't think of any conservative politicians -- or political commenters -- who would say anything as foolish as "tax cuts for the job creators, that's what solves all problems (especially when combined w/ deregulating environmental, safety and employee benefit burdens that harm the job creators)."
You really can't be effective at criticizing the policy preferences of your political opponents unless you actually criticize their policy preferences.
I'm trying to help you out, here, PB&J.

John Cunningham said...

Q: what do you call a pyramid of Mooselimb heads a hundred feet high?

A: a good start.

Clyde said...

3rdGradePB_GoodPerson said...
"I used to love visiting and knew all the places I liked."

Well, for those of us still willing to go back, in about a month for the F1 race, what would you recommend?


Body armor.

PB said...

This is a Muslim problem. They need to solve it quick. If we have to solve it, the Muslims really aren't going to like it. I want to start seeing jihadists, bound and gagged and dumped on the front door of police stations. Pronto.

Seeing Red said...

when we r on the same page, we will unite.

What it takes to get us to that point has yet to be determined.


This isn't it.

Did the Muslim mayor of London say at one point, that's a price to be paid to live there?

Just like mugging in NYC is the price to pay to live there.

They lived thru the Blitz and the Troubles, they will live thru this.

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exiledonmainstreet said...

mockturtle wrote: But, yes, the Europeans lost their balls a long time ago. England, too. I'm almost glad my husband isn't alive to see it."

As an Anglophile who has visited the country 3 times, once for a lengthy stay in the '80's, I am also saddened by the fall of a great nation.

But not all Europeans have lost their balls. Those who lived under the Soviet lash are not quite ready to give up their freedom to another ruler. Sadly, they might still be overrun.

Seeing Red said...

The people of London fought back tonight against terrorists & we should be proud - Brendan O'Neill

Can't bring the tweet over, but they started throwing chairs, bottles anything to stop the vermin.

One guy tried to run a terrorist over, but he ran.

Seeing Red said...

MSNBC anchor wanted to know if the police were overreacting.

exiledonmainstreet said...

Well, PB if a Muslim terrorist attacks you in London, I recommend throwing one of your word salads at him. Like Instead say "tax cuts for the job creators," that's what solves all problems (especially when combined w/ deregulating environmental, safety and employee benefit burdens that harm the job creators)"

You'll undoubtedly disarm him with sophistry. He'll go slit someone else's throat instead.

exiledonmainstreet said...

"Can't bring the tweet over, but they started throwing chairs"

Can't talk about the other venues, but where do you find a chair on the Tower Bridge?

A law-abiding citizen with a Glock would have helped more.

Seeing Red said...

They were near bars.

Seeing Red said...

Submit, PB. That's what you should do.

Or take the police's recommendation.

Hide.

Fen said...

Left: "this ought to be something that unites all American"

Something akin to uniting behind the duly elected President of the United States after a bitterly fought campaign? Instead of throwing a 7 month long snit, trying to handicap him, supporting a coup?

Or something akin to uniting behind the American flag, where states like California and New York do NOT sign treaties with foreign powers, an act not only unconstitutional but rank treason?

Careful there, you're starting to sound like an American.

But no, I think what you mean is coming together to sing Imagine, lending you our moral credibility as you parrot that Islam is a religion of peace and we can absorb these attacks and this is the new normal.

Go. To. Hell.

Ken B said...

SeeingRed
I wonder. The people of London have spent years supporting politicians who expressly won't fight back. Fostering the myth that this has nothing to do with Islam. That all seems to count for more than a thrown chair.

Ken B said...

Seeing Red
I forgot to add, passing laws making self defense a crime. I hope these people won't be prosecuted. I wouldn't bet the farm on it though.

Jack Wayne said...

The people of the U.K. may have lost their will to fight. I dunno. What is absolutely clear is that all they have to fight back with is chairs and bottles. What's that old saying about not bringing a chair to a knife fight?

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Jay Elink said...

Where's inga?

Where's chuck?

Where's ARM?

(crickets)

I'll tell you where: they are hiding themselves in SHAME.

But they'll get over it, after a day or two. Then they'll be back to telling us how evil WE are.

Fen said...

You know what would unite us? If the Marxist Socialist Left gathered densely together in their culturally "elite" blue city-states and collectively put their head between tbeir legs and kissed tbeir ass goodbye.

You guys are going to surrender anyway - its your counterparts in the UK that have paralyzed the people. Hell, you are already importing jihadis so you can turn them into welfare dependent Democrats. Because you hate the Flyover Country Deplorables more than you hate ISIS.

But it's all good. When the dirty bombs go off in NYC, Boston, LA, etc, us ignorant rural rednecks will roll off our sisted, open a Budweiser and break into a chorus of Imagine.

3rdGradePB_GoodPerson said...

Exile,

Could you refer to what I write as BS rather than "word salad?" Bad L also seems to have latched on to that phrase re me.

I can't read that w/o, for a millisecond, thinking of tossing salad.

Disturbing.

Fen said...

But let me tell you how I really feel.

MaxedOutMama said...

Six dead. Three jihadis killed.

One wonders how long this can go on. Violence is just in the air.

Fen said...

It wasn't so long ago that the British were indomitable. The sun never sers on the British Empire. England's finest hour.

First thing we need to do is discover what nuetured the British people, identify it back here in America and root it out with extreme prejudice.

David Baker said...

It's time to shove reformation down their throats.

PackerBronco said...

Great Britain has gone from:

"We shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender!"

to:

"Run! Hide! Tell!"

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Fen said...

"They are hiding themselves in SHAME"

If only that were so. At least they would be redeemable. But the Left has no shame. I don't understand wht, I'm still trying to figure it out, but I promise you they are not ashamed.

They will ditch yesterday's talking points, pick up new ones that are 180 degrees opposite without a shred of self-awareness.

Trumpit said...

The way I deal with a terrible story like this is to treat myself to something usually on Amazon using Prof. Althouse's portal. She deserves our support. My next biggish purchase will be a Kindle. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. There are books that I want to read before I die, starting with David Sedaris. Thank's for the suggestion.

Is there any point in commenting directly on this latest terrorist outrage in Britain? NO!!

exiledonmainstreet said...

David Baker said...
It's time to shove reformation down their throats.

6/3/17, 10:59 PM

They've had their Reformation. They are returning Islam to its' roots.

Do you think the Muslim Crescent extended from Spain to Indonesia because of polite missionaries?

Drago said...

We won't really have a good picture about what has happened and what our next steps should be until after the 9th and 4th circuit court National Security experts provide guidance.

mockturtle said...

But not all Europeans have lost their balls. Those who lived under the Soviet lash are not quite ready to give up their freedom to another ruler. Sadly, they might still be overrun.

True. Poland is still up for a fight.

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Real American said...

But by all means, let's invite more of these psychos to our country. We wouldn't​want them to think less of us.

Mike said...

Glad to hear the Brits are fighting back. We all have to be ready at any time now. This is the most post-9/11 I've felt since just after 9/11.

chickelit said...

Jelly wrote: I can't read that w/o, for a millisecond, thinking of tossing salad.

Tossing Salad

I always thought Jelly was an a linguist. There's your proof.

chickelit said...

1983 (A Merman I Should Turn To Be)

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Jupiter said...

"I'm still trying to figure it out, but I promise you they are not ashamed."

Yeah, it's a puzzle. I think the main factor is that they don't see this ever happening to anyone they care about. The image of some Muslim sack of filth stabbing an innocent woman to death in the service of his death cult doesn't bother them, because they don't connect it to their own lives. It's akin to the way that they believe they can bleed the economy to death without affecting in the slightest their ability to live a 20th Century American lifestyle. In Lefty World, Someone Else will always pay the price.

walter said...

Yet more knife and car violence..
Control these devices!

readering said...

Go back and read stories from 2001. Experts were predicting a two to three decade struggle and many incidents a lot more fearsome than blokes in a van with long knives. Stay calm and carry on.

Alex said...

Honestly this is all out of proportion to everyday crime. There is no 'terrorism', just the government trying to scare the people into voting against their own interests.

3rdGradePB_GoodPerson said...

"Honestly this is all out of proportion to everyday crime. There is no 'terrorism', just the government trying to scare the people into voting against their own interests."

Isn't six dead a typical week in Chiraq?

Yancey Ward said...

Readering is correct- it isn't anyone you know, so stay calm and carry on.

Joshua Barker said...

Blogger readering said...
Go back and read stories from 2001. Experts were predicting a two to three decade struggle and many incidents a lot more fearsome than blokes in a van with long knives. Stay calm and carry on.

6/4/17, 1:03 AM

Tell that to the teenage girl stabbed 15 times while she pleaded for someone to help...

God forbid that ever happens to someone you care about...

You fucking people make me sick...

walter said...

Some part of the concern I'm betting is about the upper limit of violence folks with this ideology are comfortable with.
Staying out of Chiraq might be perceived as easier than avoiding being at a farmer's market enduring Car Violence.

Lewis Wetzel said...

People who say that they want Islam to have a Reformation really mean that they want Islam to resemble modern Western Christianity.
Ain't gonna happen. We got modernism largely because the Catholics and the Reformers had turned Europe into an abattoir. Philosophy based on theology resulted in piles of bodies with no gain in human knowledge.
The Thirty Years War:

During the war, Germany's population was reduced by 30 percent on average; in the territory of Brandenburg, the losses had amounted to half, while in some areas an estimated two thirds of the population died. Germany’s male population was reduced by almost half. The population of the Czech lands declined by a third. The Swedish armies alone destroyed 2,000 castles, 18,000 villages and 1,500 towns in Germany, one-third of all German towns.

http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Thirty_Years%E2%80%99_War

A reform movement in Islam would pit modernism against fundamentalism, with the victorious philosophy being something as different from modernism and fundamentalism as modernism is different from Catholicism and Protestantism. The only bits of Protestantism kept by modernism are beliefs in predestination and the all-powerful, unknowable nature of our creator.

Laslo Spatula said...

The new Werewolves of London.

I am Laslo.

David Baker said...

Here's what "I" heard Theresa May say, with nose in the air:

"We remain terribly, terribly fine. And in our peerless, superior, fineness, we'll remain terribly, terribly fine. Therefore, and hereafter, know that your problem is Facingbook and Google and SnappyChat - not the lack of adequate, personal self-defense, or government policy. And certainly beyond discussion or consideration, that no price is too high to pay for diversity."

That's what I heard that patronizing bitch say.

gnome said...

I predict an upsurge in enthusiasm for cricket in the UK.
(Cricket bats are to the englishers what baseball bats are to americans - a necessary item for one of their favourite sports.)
For myself, if I were (which heaven forfend) forced to go there, I would develop a limp and never go anywhere without my iron-tipped, iron filigreed heirloom walking stick.
Sales of finely worked walking sticks presents a new business opportunity for the craft-inclined.
Another great business opportunity is the government pig farm, where the corpses of the martyrs can be turned into a higher quality material suitable for turning over to their community for burial.

Rusty said...

Unknown said...
"I don't know about you, but I put the French flag on my photo and posted the French parliament (or senat or whatever it is) singing the Marseillaise because I am getting damn fucking sick of Moslems attacking my fellow members of western civ. I thought that was what all of that meant, at the time. Hope I didn't unwittingly perpetuate nothing-to-see-here-ism.
Th as t said, could we please stop talking about burning families alive in their houses? What are we, Hindus?"

OK. Since the left seems fine about not talking about the 3000 people who were burned alive in their places of work om 9/11/2001. Even in Peaceful beta male Britain there will be a reaction. You notice this happened in London and not Glasgow, or some London suburb where the ,as Gherie put it, the yobs outnumber the muslims.
We, the civilized west , have a moral duty to protect ourselves. Personally , I would much rather just not have them here in the first place. As I mentioned before; make admittance to a western country a privilege that must be earned. And by 'earned' I mean suppressing those homicidal urges that Islam seems to foster.
We as nation are under no moral obligation to accept them.

Daniel Jackson said...

A few years ago, I was detained at Stansted airport by the British (privatized) immigration service. I arrived from Barcelona and showed my Israeli passport. I had not eaten in 24 hours so was going into diabetic hypoglycemia. A bit confused, I asked the officer if there was a problem with my passport. She wanted to see what other identification I had. She was not satisfied and two other officers escorted me to a holding area where I had to empty the contents of my sack and explain each item.

Why do you have a camera? I'm a photographer. Why do you have a laptop? To process digital images. Why do you have an American passport? I'm an American. Why TWO passports? I'm a dual citizen. What is this bump inside your American passport? A bio-metric chip. Why are you carrying a USCG license and seaman's documents? I'm taking the trans-Channel ferry tonight (a birthday present for my 65th birthday) and hoped to use them for a courtesy tour on the ferry's bridge.

I was fingerprinted for the undesirables file, told I had not present valid identification of national identity, kept in detention over night without food, and placed on a Ryan Air flight back to Barcelona (Ryan Air charged the flight at three times the normal fare using my credit card without my authorization) under guard as an undesirable.

So. This is an example of how the British [privatized] Immigration Service stops and returns foreign threats to their public safety.

Oh yes; Her Majesty's [Privatized] Immigration Service is doing one hell of a job keeping out those persons posing a vital threat to Crown and Civilization.

Doug said...

How about this for a non-violent response to Islamic terrorists attacks? Publicly bury all dead jihadis in hog carcasses.

Daniel Jackson said...

There is one significant non-violent response to all of these acts: cut all financial support for any agency or quasi government that supports and glorifies people who undertake such actions.

The economic enabling of "freedom fighters" must stop. Cries of "humanitarian crises" must not deter this single act. The hypocrisy of funding the PA, for example, must stop. Full Stop.

The way humanitarian aid transforms into guns, rockets, bomb vests, and substantial family support to those who carry out these missions needs to be exposed clearly and objectively. Only when the EU and the US act unambiguously on the funding issue, will the payola to all these groups dry up the economic capacity to kill people out for a Saturday night walk or exiting a concert stop.

Bad Lieutenant said...

"That said, could we please stop talking about burning families alive in their houses? What are we, Hindus?"

Were Janet Reno and Bill Clinton, Hindus?

Bad Lieutenant said...

Funny how our snowflakes with their high moral tone are unafraid of threatened and actual violence targeting the death of our civilization, but lose their minds over every single measure that is proposed to avert it - they're even afraid of talk. I thought liberals weren't afraid of talk.

Rick said...

Armed police rushed to the scene and shot dead all three suspects within eight minutes of receiving the first emergency call and placed the area on lock down.

Notably the media highlights the statistic most favorable to police even though it's irrelevant to the public. How long did it take someone on the scene to contextualize the attack, reach a safe position, and then place a call?

When seconds count police are only ten minutes away.

Ray said...

No mention of the Thames impact on the Mermen theory? I bet if you mapped out the attacks they would all be near water.

Hat tip rivers of Rivers of London series - urban paranormal, but no merpeople in it yet. River Gods and Goddesses yes.

RigelDog said...

"Do mermen have gills? How long could they stay out of the water anyway? Mermen rampaging on land is a complicated problem."
I believe that they are prone to making unholy alliances with Landsharks.

EMyrt said...

Lewis Wetzel said...

People who say that they want Islam to have a Reformation really mean that they want Islam to resemble modern Western Christianity.
Ain't gonna happen. We got modernism largely because the Catholics and the Reformers had turned Europe into an abattoir. Philosophy based on theology resulted in piles of bodies with no gain in human knowledge.
The Thirty Years War:

http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Thirty_Years%E2%80%99_War

A reform movement in Islam would pit modernism against fundamentalism, with the victorious philosophy being something as different from modernism and fundamentalism as modernism is different from Catholicism and Protestantism. The only bits of Protestantism kept by modernism are beliefs in predestination and the all-powerful, unknowable nature of our creator.
6/4/17, 2:07 AM

This. It may be that 30% deaths are needed to sort this out. No wonder young men are fleeing the ME for softer situations.

Modern Protestants tend to be very soft on predestination. Only the Mormons have solved the paradox of predestination by saving people posthumously.

If you are interested, I recommend:
https://www.questia.com/library/120076541/predestination-the-american-career-of-a-contentious

Trashhauler said...

Remember, this is not an existential threat.
Remember, this is not an existential threat.
Remember, this is not an existential threat.

Well, unless you live in the UK.

Remember, when seconds count, the police are only eight minutes away.
Remember, when seconds count, the police are only eight minutes away.
Remember, when seconds count, the police are only eight minutes away.

At least, if you live in London.