May 15, 2017

"Women Can Wear Pants on Fox News Now, But Not Much Else..."

"... Has Changed."

A New York Magazine headline.

I thought it was funny to break it up like that.

89 comments:

clint said...

Reminds me of the most popular news show in Russia a few years back.

The "news reader" was an attractive woman who would remove an article of clothing after each segment.

I could not make this up.

Rob McLean said...

Reminds me of a news report on an old bloopers record I heard as a kid. The female announcer wanted to make the point that hemlines were staying the same, and not going any lower, so she said: "Women are not wearing their dresses any longer this year!"

Amadeus 48 said...

Fox News is in the midst of showing how to kill a golden-egg-laying goose. Sad.

David Begley said...

NYT wants Fox to drop the conservative views.

Supposedly Congressman Jason Chavitz of Utah is going to work for Fox. Bad idea.

traditionalguy said...

Blonde, cute bimbos are still cast in the news reader jobs at Fox. It was Roger Ailes secret to success. Ailes may be gone now to make room at the top for the Junior Murdochs to take credit for being born, but they kept Roger's trade secrets.

rhhardin said...

Where's the interest if you can't look up their dresses.

sinz52 said...

Yes, all the social conservatives who were fans of Fox News never wondered why the women on that network didn't dress more modestly.

Bad Lieutenant said...

I don't understand sinz, did ladies on Fox dress improperly before? Most men have been cowed out of judging most women's clothing, so what would we say?

Virtually Unknown said...

That headline is Dowdlerized. That's how Sarah Palin was so often quoted.

sykes.1 said...

Fox News is fully pozzed.

Virtually Unknown said...

No hotties on MSNBC, CNN, or even the BBC. I think that seeing an attractive woman with conservative views causes them cognitive dissonance.

Virtually Unknown said...

I have not watched Fox since election night, but it would be a shame if they abandoned middle America for the coasts, where the money is.

rhhardin said...

Cameltoes could get viewers back.

Chuck said...

This is a bad rap on FNC. If anybody thinks that Fox is alone in picking beautiful women as correspondents, they clearly haven't watched enough news on other channels. They all go for looks every chance they get.

Fox didn't mind homeliness in the case of Greta van Susteren, and Fox went out of its way to elevate Mara Liasson on pure competence and skilled experience.

MathMom said...

According to an interview with Ailes that I read some time back, when questioned about why he hired so many blondes, he said that he hired whoever was most qualified, brunettes, redheads, anyone. He said they changed their hair color on their own. He also said there was no dress code at FOX, the women chose to dress that way.

And a large number, not sure of percentage, of the blonde, cute bimbos in newsreader jobs are lawyers. As they move out of the newsreader chair and move up, you learn that many of them are really high-achievers. One, Jamie Colby, who I always thought was a bimbo with a rather harsh voice, according to Wiki:

Attending the University of Miami's International School of Business, she earned a Bachelor of Business Administration degree in accounting as well as a Juris Doctor degree from the University of Miami School of Law at age 22.

I wish I were such a bimbo.

MayBee said...

I watch CBS This Morning and don't remember Gail or Nora wearing pants pretty much ever.

The dress thing seems to be a very common newsroom requirement/tradition.

Bob Ellison said...

Chuck, Mara Liasson is a hottie for her age.

One of the best actual journalists on FNC these days is Catherine Herridge. She's a pretty lady, but she makes the story the story. The other best journalist over there is James Rosen. Not my type, but he and his parents got boinked by Obama's thugs, so that earns points.

Jeff Gee said...

I think all headlines should be broken up like that. It's like having the news read by William Shatner.

Original Mike said...

I find Mara Liasson to be pretty clueless.

Chuck said...

Bob Ellison said...
Chuck, Mara Liasson is a hottie for her age.


Totally agree. But she's not just a pretty lady; she's a completely brilliant reporter.

The fact that Shine and Ailes picked her out of the NPR/MSM crowd, and put her on with Bret Baier and Chris Wallace says something about their brilliance for talent as well as Mara's talent.

traditionalguy said...

The Nets hire cute and young personality over all else, such as Savanah Guthrie on Today.

But starting with CNN, the Cable News business postured itself as Professional Journalists from the Edward R. Murrow school. They have an international segment of audience to please, so they are more neutral rather than pro American.

Ailes built FOX in the pro American niche with a deplorable audience complete with cheerleader types to add female attractiveness. The Murdoch spawn are about to discover that FOX cannot go back to CNN's ways and win.

AReasonableMan said...

Ann Coulter Is Worried The ‘Trump-Haters Were Right’

mockturtle said...

I watched FOX [past tense] because it was the only non-leftist news network. But, being a woman, I found the bimbo brigade annoying. Even my favorite, the highly intelligent Harris Faulkner, would dutifully sit with upper thighs exposed. How seriously do we take news analysis by someone dressed for a seductive rendezvous?

Still, the reason I stopped watching had nothing to do with bimbos or the exit of the loathsome O'Reilly or his equally loathsome female counterpart, Megyn Kelly. It was the tenor of the worldview--elitist to the core, anti-Trump and anti-Trump supporters--that drove me away [not that they would care]. I do watch Lou Dobbs on the FOX Business channel.

Matthew Sablan said...

Right about what? That women are allowed to wear pants? What, exactly, does that have to do with this?

Original Mike said...

"Even my favorite, the highly intelligent Harris Faulkner, would dutifully sit with upper thighs exposed. How seriously do we take news analysis by someone dressed for a seductive rendezvous? "

I've never had a problem taking Harris Faulkner seriously.

Michael K said...

ARM in another try at hijacking the thread.

chickelit said...

Rachel Maddow's personal line of drab wear is the new style. Her hairstyle as well. Women everywhere yearn to be her.

Big Mike said...

I thought it was funny to break it up like that.

They thought it was funny too.

AllenS said...

You know who's hot on Fox? Kennedy.

Dust Bunny Queen said...

Yes, all the social conservatives who were fans of Fox News never wondered why the women on that network didn't dress more modestly.

We are not "social" conservatives by any stretch of the imagination....however, we noticed the slutty dressing. Especially Me-again Kelly who looked like she was dressing for her night time job as an expensive escort/whore.

My husband, who appreciates the female figure, even remarked on the low cut cleavage of many of the female talking heads. Here comes whatshername...and her girls! Pretty sure he wasn't DISapproving :-) [he is a man after all] just remarking on the inappropriateness of trying to convey intelligent political commentary while wondering how soon her boobs are going to spring out.

I wondered about the physics of their bras and where I might buy some of those.

sodal ye said...

AReasonableMan said...
Ann Coulter Is Worried The ‘Trump-Haters Were Right’

She's not alone. I'm hanging on by my fingernails at this point.


sodal ye said...

I think Judge Jeanine is nuclear hot. She'd be fun in the sack.

Wilbur said...

The only Fox News show I ever tuned into is Bret Baier. Not many hotties on there, unless you want to count Bret.

Big Mike said...

@clint, it was called "Naked News" and on one of my business trips back before I retired I discovered that the hotel I was booked into had it on their movie channel. According to Wikipedia it's a Canadian show with imitators in various countries and if you're interested (I'm not) you can still subscribe to a web site. A number of countries had imitators on the air, but I don't know whether there was a Russian imitator.

Dust Bunny Queen said...

One of the best actual journalists on FNC these days is Catherine Herridge.

Agreed. She is professional, concise, informative, with no hint of personal bias. A pleasure to listen to and quite pretty in a Audrey Hepburn sort of way.

We mostly look at Fox Business for our news as well.

Although, I have my husband frequently pause the show to criticize Lou Dobbs' suit,shirt,tie combinations. Seriously! Blue checked shirt, red polka dot tie, striped suit jacket! all at once. Is the carnival in town. Someone dress this man!

mockturtle said...

It's funny, DBQ, but I've never notice Dobbs' attire. And maybe that's good?

traditionalguy said...

Leave old Lou Dobbs alone. He may be a clothes disaster who likes to repeat himself with emphasis 5 times over 5 minutes, but he is on our side in the GOP President v. the Ryan's RINOs secret guerilla war.

We need to rename Lou as Howling Mad Dobbs, in honor of a certain Marine Commander in the Central Pacific Campaign. They both like fast victory.

Darrell said...

ABC has opted not to renew the longtime Friday 8 PM anchor, 'Last Man Standing,' for Season 7 despite the fact that the blue-collar sitcom was ABC’s second most watched comedy this season with 8.1 million viewers in Live +7, only behind flagship Modern Family (8.7 million). It was the third most watched ABC scripted series overall behind Grey’s Anatomy and Modern Family.

Seems like shareholders of ABC should sue over breech of fiduciary responsibility. Getting rid of your second most popular show because it has a slightly conservative perspective sounds like you're cheating shareholders out of profit for non-business related reasons. 21st Century Fox shareholders should sue the Murdoch kids back to the stone age when they ruin the Fox brand and profits.

Gahrie said...

It figures that Chuckles would have a hard on for the most Leftwing reporter on Fox News.........

I Callahan said...

I think all headlines should be broken up like that. It's like having the news read by William Shatner.

Or Christopher Walken...

exiledonmainstreet said...

"I think Judge Jeanine is nuclear hot."

Unfortunately, she has an extremely annoying voice. She does seem like fun, but that ear-splitting screech....

I Callahan said...

put her on with Bret Baier and Chris Wallace says something about their brilliance for talent as well as Mara's talent.

Bret Baier maybe, but not Chris Wallace. He's overrated and quite full of himself because of his being Mike Wallace's kid. I heard him get all testy on a Friday morning Fox & Friends where he previewed a story he was going to do on Fox News Sunday. Kilmeade asked him about an angle of it that everyone was reporting on, and when pressed, Wallace said something about "you can report about that on your little show, but I'm not talking about it on mine."

Mike said...

Gotta agree with Chuck here. IF there ever was a dress code then it wasn't enforced on Greta. And someone could help me understand the importance of this stupid story by jotting down a quick list of women on other news channels (other than the uber-butch Maddow) who doesn't hew to the dress and heels "code" on TV.

Buehler? Anyone?

I Callahan said...

Ann Coulter Is Worried The ‘Trump-Haters Were Right’

NOW he gives credence to Ann Coulter. When it fits the narrative he believes.

ARM - Ann Coulter is full of shite. Always has been, always will be. Like most women, she lets her emotions cloud her judgment. She was on my FB feed, and as far as I'm concerned, she's completely lost it now, so I unfollowed.

exiledonmainstreet said...

Mara Liasson was attractive, but she's had Pelosi-levels of work done on her face. It now looks like her eyes are about to pop out of her head.

I agree that Catherine Herridge and Harris Faulkner are excellent.

Mike said...

Callahan, Chris Wallace did studiously avoid the FACT that it is reported that Obama taped everything in the Oval. He did dishonestly set up a question with the preamble about "Trump setting up a taping system..." which I found very disturbing. To deliberately ignore a report by a frequent Fox contributor that he was handed a transcript of a just-concluded interview with Obama (and Dan Pfeiffer explicitly said they "record everything") just to set up an anti-Trump talking point disgusted me.

Chris ain't Tony Snow. Chris is a paid-up member of the DNC-Media complex riding the nevertrump train.

n.n said...

No potato sacks?

Unless their dress was determined by force (e.g. legal obligation), then it was their choice. It seems like NYMAG's report is a case of a social liberal who wants to have her baby and abort it, too, while crying bigot all they way down. Normal people would recognize the order is choice, then conception, and respond on principle (e.g. human rights). The principle in this story is that there is a reasonable and practical standard of "appropriate" within context.

JohnAnnArbor said...

There's Uma Pemmaraju and her big hair on weekends.

Darrell said...

Naked News has been kept afloat by a Russian millionaire/billionaire for some time now. He was featured in a cable show a few years ago that showed behind-the-scenes when they were trying to come up with new ideas to keep it alive. NN was one of the biggest hits in the early days (circa 2001) of the internet when most people had dial-up. One of the things that made it stand out was having newsreaders like Victoria Sinclair, who could have worked for any TV news show. They didn't employ strippers that couldn't read from a teleprompter. Then, something like 16 million people visited daily. It never made the transition to paid subscriptions. The Russian was shown teleconferencing with the Toronto people from Moscow prior to his visit.

Michael K said...

Seems like shareholders of ABC should sue over breech of fiduciary responsibility.

After they suppressed the miniseries "The Path to 9/11" until Hillary finally imploded was just one more example of the ABC/Disney/ DNC axis. Shareholders bedamned.

Drago said...

Chuck: "This is a bad rap on FNC. If anybody thinks that Fox is alone in picking beautiful women as correspondents, they clearly haven't watched enough news on other channels. They all go for looks every chance they get"

I still shudder when I recall the raw footage of Bella Abzugs screen test.

James K said...

After they suppressed the miniseries "The Path to 9/11" until Hillary finally imploded

"Until"? It's still banished, isn't it? I saw it the first time and would love to see it again. I'm guessing every copy of the original has been put through a wood chipper.

Darrell said...

Ann Coulter is just reminding Trump not to waver on his campaign promises to seal the border and deport lawbreakers. ARM will be happy when Trump does that, surely.

traditionalguy said...

Panties vel non is not the final test for Anchor Babe. Along with a good figure, a lady needs a cute personality and trained brains to match. Finding a blonde with all three of those traits is not easy. The exceptional LaAlthouse has all three, but she is not available.

Jay Elink said...

Wilbur said...
The only Fox News show I ever tuned into is Bret Baier. Not many hotties on there, unless you want to count Bret.

**************

Lisa Boothe!!!

Inga said...
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Inga said...

I have to give Ann Coulter kudos for her bold honesty. As for Fox, they weren't anti Trump as Mockturtle says, Sean Hannity was and probabily still is one of Trump's biggest fan boys.

I Callahan said...

I have to give Ann Coulter kudos for her bold honesty.

You do understand that she doesn't think Trump has moved as hard right as she wishes she had, right?

Liberals are nothing if not opportunists. When someone on the right says something that can be held against the right, jump on it, whether it fits your narrative or not.

2 dimensional thinkers, the whole lot of them.

Jay Elink said...

Bret Baier maybe, but not Chris Wallace. He's overrated and quite full of himself because of his being Mike Wallace's kid.

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Mike Wallace divorced Chris's mom when Chris was a year old. Father and son had no relationship until Chris Wallace was 14.

"Wallace has stated that despite his blood relationship with his father Mike, his stepfather [CBS News President] Bill Leonard had far more of an impact on his life. Wallace said that Leonard was "the single most important person in my life."" ---wikipedia

It was Leonard who gave Wallace his first shot in the national news business, not Mike.

Achilles said...

It will be nice when Fox and the rest of the Oligarch owned media are fully dead. Do people realize that pewdiepie has an order of magnitude more viewers than any of these networks and makes more money than any of the on air talent? Even Rush Limbaugh has more listeners every day than any of these networks have viewers.

Fox will sink to the levels of CNN and MSNBC. The major networks will follow shortly thereafter as they don't have any viewers under the age of 65. Good riddance.

Michael K said...

" I saw it the first time and would love to see it again."

I got a copy from an obscure source. It is good quality.

This is the only source I see.

We watched it the other night. I'm not sure if it has been edited. This suggests it might have been, but it was pretty impressive. I had seen it originally.

Inga said...

I Callahan.
No kidding. I admire her for having the guts to say aloud that she is ready to jump off the Trump train ( for whatever reason) considering the kind of blow back that people who express negativity toward Trump receive. I'm not expecting Coulter to express a leftist point of view now that she's seen the light concerning Trump, lol.

Michael K said...

Inga is a great source on Fox, right Inga ?

Bruce Hayden said...

I think that the thing, with me, that sticks out about Fox is the number of women it has working for it in front of the camera, most of whom are decently good looking. Probably more than the other cable news shows combined. They seem to have a huge stable, and it skews female. And, the females tend to be more accomplished than the males, at least at the on air, entry level. A lot of attorneys. Or, as I would say, if I want to be hit, as a sexist, "lawyerettes".

Interesting thought - which show do you tend to see the most thigh on Fox News? My guess, it is most likely "Outnumbered", which runs at noon Eastern time, and, thus, is primarily aimed at a female audience. A thinking woman's "View" or "Talk". You can also detect the female orientation by the women happily talking over each other - like women do a lot more of in real life than men do. And, the premise of the show, of one guy outnumbered by 4 bright, attractive women (ok, not sure that Ms McCain is that bright, and is a bit pudgy), all showing a lot of thigh, sitting around him on a circular sofa.

Jupiter said...

Much ado about nothing. If you want news, you can read it, in newspapers and magazines, or on the web. If you want news with video, you can get that on the web too. If you prefer to have the news read to you, you can listen to the radio. Why would you watch news on TV? Because you prefer to have the news read to you by good-looking women wearing revealing outfits.

Hagar said...

How about the other lady of Fox News, Jennifer Griffin?

Mara Liasson actually looks better with age, except for the face she makes at the opening intoduction. Poltically she is a rara avis these days; an old fashioned moderate Democrat. And she is honest, which is also getting to be a rare thing.

Hagar said...

Most "dumb blondes" are still smarter than I am.

Jupiter said...

Fox News has nothing to do with it. It's not like Mika Brzezinski wears Farmer John overalls, right? The girls on NBC don't wear burkhas.

I will admit Rachel Maddow is an outlying data point. Her popularity requires additional explanation. Something in the water, is my guess.

Hagar said...

"Dumb blondes" still nice-looking past age thirty, definitely are much smarter than I am and should be treated with care.

n.n said...

"The Path to 9/11" followed a decadal development through several administrations that may work as a miniseries. The real mystery is why the modern press is suppressing the 30 second elevator speech that preceded and coincided with invasion of Libya, Syria, Ukraine, etc., and the forcing of catastrophic anthropogenic immigration reform for non-profit profits, democratic gerrymandering, and plausible cover-up.

JohnAnnArbor said...

Poltically she is a rara avis these days; an old fashioned moderate Democrat. And she is honest, which is also getting to be a rare thing.

I agree. She will not challenge a fact just because it conflicts with her world-view. She's got a viewpoint, and it's clear, and that's fine as a commentator, but she is honest.

Drago said...

Inga: "I have to give Ann Coulter kudos for her bold honesty."

Coulter has always been bold and honest.

The left has always called her a Nazi. You know, like they call everyone who is not a leftist.

mockturtle said...

I have to ask, "Where are the hot guys on network news?"

Inga said...

Drago, don't be a hypocrite. What do you often call liberals and "leftists"?

walter said...

Blogger Matthew Sablan said...
Right about what? That women are allowed to wear pants? What, exactly, does that have to do with this?
--
ARM had such a hard-on from a perceived Trumpster defection, he couldn't wait for a cafe.

Original Mike said...

Blogger mockturtle said..."I have to ask, "Where are the hot guys on network news?"

I don't know, it seems there are a lot of good looking guys on Fox News. I mean, if you're into that sort of thing.

Darrell said...

traditionalguy said...Panties vel non

That's a premium thread. Go to the Althouse Amazon link to subscribe.

mockturtle said...

Original Mike asserts: I don't know, it seems there are a lot of good looking guys on Fox News.

Name one.

Mike said...

Hannity is an outlier on his own network.

Shep Smith (their only real "anchor") is avowedly anti-Trump.

So many "contributors" are semi-never-Trump establishment types: Dana Perino, Charles Krauthammer, Rich Lowry, Sandra Smith, Meghan McCain, etc. Prior to being sacked, O'Reilly had been a Trump-skeptic while keeping a neutral stance (what an idea!). And of course every left-of-center regular and contributor (Juan, Bob, etc.) except maybe Geraldo, has been rabidly anti-Trump.

The Fox & Friends crew has been fairly pro-Trump, but then he did used to appear on their show every Monday morning. (And that was when I stopped watching them.) But the general zeitgeist of FNC is Establishment. Not eGOP but plain old DC-centric Establishment. It oozes from Chris Wallace. It suffuses the headlines and chiron graphics, and thei topics are clearly driven by "What did the NYT write today?"

We need a conservative channel.

walter said...

Blogger Inga said...Drago, don't be a hypocrite. What do you often call liberals and "leftists"?
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Nazis? Do tell...

Original Mike said...

@mockturtle...Bill Hemmer, Jon Scott, Shepard Smith.

Char Char Binks said...

News readers are actors. It's partly news, partly show, and all biz, whether it's FOX, CBS, ABC, etc. You can listen to the radio, and you'll hear pleasant voices.

Char Char Binks said...

Oh, and what Jupiter said.

mockturtle said...

@mockturtle...Bill Hemmer, Jon Scott, Shepard Smith.

Eeeeeeuuuuuuwwww!

Original Mike said...

Well, I've got news for you MT, there are only one or two Fox women who I would rate hot. The majority, like the men, are pleasant looking, nothing more. And most shouldn't be wearing short skirts. Only two or three of them have the legs for it.

JohnAnnArbor said...

Shep Smith (their only real "anchor")

What about Julie Banderas?

traditionalguy said...

Stud Carlson, nee Tucker, is attractive with his consternation look. OK it is his brain I liken.

Kevin said...

If anybody thinks that Fox is alone in picking beautiful women as correspondents, they clearly haven't watched enough news on other channels. They all go for looks every chance they get.

The women leaving Fox don't seem to have any trouble landing jobs at other networks.

mockturtle said...

tradguy opines: Stud Carlson, nee Tucker, is attractive with his consternation look. OK it is his brain I liken.

I think he is the most attractive guy on FNC but that's not saying a whole lot. John Roberts looks better as he ages. He no longer has that 'pretty boy' look. Lester Holt of NBC isn't bad but a little bland.