March 27, 2017

"The working class have spoke, and I’m one of them, and I’m with them."

Said Johnny Rotten/John Lydon. That was about Brexit...
"Where do I stand on Brexit? Well, here it goes: the working class have spoke, and I’m one of them, and I’m with them,” he said.
But he also talked about Trump. He's "a complicated fellow." And:
“As one journalist once said to me, is he the political Sex Pistol? In a way. What I dislike is the left wing media in America are trying to smear the bloke as a racist, and that’s completely not true. There are many, many problems with him as a human being but he’s not that, and there just might be a chance something good will come out of this situation because it terrifies politicians. This is a joy to behold for me.”

When host Piers Morgan described Mr. Trump as “the archetypal anti-establishment figure”, Mr. Lydon said: “Dare I say, a possible friend.”
I like the way this story looked on Drudge:



Drudge arranged that great face along with other faces, including Trump's, diagonally and youngly:

38 comments:

Kevin said...

"the working class have spoke"

Democrats hardest hit.

Henry said...

Face Flag Face Face Face

AprilApple said...

"... What I dislike is the left wing media in America are trying to smear the bloke as a racist, and that’s completely not true. There are many, many problems with him as a human being but he’s not that, and there just might be a chance something good will come out of this situation because it terrifies politicians. This is a joy to behold for me.”

Excellent.

...and Trump terrifies leftwing hollywood and idiots like Ashley Judd and Madonna.
JOY! indeed. All the golden sacred cows are trembling. RAPTURE!

AprilApple said...

I went to a PiL concert at Macky back in the day.

David said...

Thought he was dead. He probably has had the same thought from time to time.

AprilApple said...

McCain's mug is terrifying.

AprilApple said...

I have a soft spot for counter culture and punk. The outcasts.
Shorter Rotten: The outcasts have spoken and you busy-body leftwing proggy elites can go pound sand.

**Reality- Trump's core is a New York liberal, and all the liberal panty-soiling is silly.**

Bob Boyd said...

Being deplorable is so hot right now.

Humperdink said...

"McCain's mug is terrifying."

And under the mug the headline (quoting the ugly mug): "New world order under enormous strain".

The polar opposite of what Mr. Rotten stated.

Bob Boyd said...

People can't wait to associate themselves with the fashionable new oppressed identity group.
If I could buy stock in Deplorables, I'd go long.

Laslo Spatula said...

From his Sex Pistols days:

"Body I'm not an animal
Mummy I'm not an abortion
Dragged on a table in a factory
Illegitimate place to be
In a packet in a lavatory
Die little baby screaming
Body screaming fucking bloody mess
It's not an animal it's an abortion"

Anti-abortion Punk from the Seventies.

He was always a complicated fellow. I liked that.

I am Laslo.

Chuck said...

Wouldn't British punk rock have been bigger, and more artistically influential, if it hadn't been so culturally linked with racist Euro skinheads? The whole football hooligan/skinhead/punk rocker/heroin addict/dropout on the dole thing...

They sure as hell didn't like Mrs. Thatcher, did they?

Humperdink said...

LLR said: "They sure as hell didn't like Mrs. Thatcher, did they?"

Some people mature over time.

AprilApple said...

Bob Boyd - Victims of a dishonest press.

Chuck - Punk had many ugly faces. Not just the coin operated version you portray.

Chuck said...

AprilApple said...
McCain's mug is terrifying.


Which is absolutely plainly obviously totally why Drudge chose that picture. Right now, the Drudge editors are scouring the 'net for similarly bad pictures of Paul Ryan. Next week it will be Tom Cotton. And after that, Lindsey Graham.

It's why you never see this picture on the Drudge home page:

http://huskypawprint.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/unnamed.png

AprilApple said...

Laslo 8:55. Good find.

Unknown said...

Johnny Rotten is NOT saying he is pro-Trump. He is saying that he is pro-Brexit because most of the British working classes voted to leave the EU.

Brexit and the election of Trump are two different situations that Trump conflated into one about giving power back to the people.

Brexit was primarily about sovereignity of the UK wrt the EU ie. the British voted to leave the EU because they wanted complete say over their matters. The vote was close and there is a plenty of buyers remorse from the working-classes because most Brexiters did not understand the long-term implications of leaving the EU wrt the economy and jobs.

AprilApple said...

Chuck - yawn.

Bigger ugly picture is the idea that our leaders are re-elected until they die in office. That's an ugly reality that should change. Pelosi and McCain should set the example and retire before they knock-off.

TreeJoe said...

I agree with him that something positive coming out of a Trump Presidency is genuinely seen as a terrifying prospect to both politicians and media outlets.

To wit, Trump just experienced his first failure led by the republican party. So he immediately pivots to reaching out to Dems. Smart.

How is it positioned? Here's some sample headlines:

ABCNews: "Trumps shifts blame to conservatives" (Note they didn't say republicans, which are the actual party, but instead trying to drive a wedge with all conservatives)

NBCNews: "After Health Care Defeat, Trump's Options are Bad and Worse"

You know, you'd think a President reaching across the aisle to fix a national nightmare (healthcare - both the insurance process and costs) would be seen as a sign of new hope?

Nope

Robert Cook said...

"Brexit was primarily about sovereignity of the UK wrt the EU ie. the British voted to leave the EU because they wanted complete say over their matters. The vote was close and there is a plenty of buyers remorse from the working-classes because most Brexiters did not understand the long-term implications of leaving the EU wrt the economy and jobs."

By regaining sovereignty over their own affairs, the longer term effect of Brexit will be favorable for the Brits.

veni vidi vici said...

Trump face went with Musk;
Johnny Rotten face was a pairing with McCain, who has the same "Am I wearing my pants?" expression of questionable sanity in the eyes.

Chuck said...

TreeJoe said...
...

You know, you'd think a President reaching across the aisle to fix a national nightmare (healthcare - both the insurance process and costs) would be seen as a sign of new hope?


Are you saying that prospectively? Or retrospectively?

Because Trump clearly did nothing to reach out to Democrats or to court them in the process of the AHCA. He made the cause of "Repeal and replace!" a kind of channeled hatred of Barack Obama. All Trump could talk about, was what a disaster it was. And what sorts of Washington idiots passed it in the first place. All of the usual low-brow insults, and consequently potent appeals to his base.

Never, "I have a better plan, based upon the following principles..." Because he doesn't have any principles, and he doesn't really know very much about any of the plans.

Todd Galle said...

There were many sub-genres in punk. Yes, there were skinheads, but they were not the whole shebang by a long shot. The DKs did 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off', and Minor Threat were 'straight edge' punk, no drugs, etc. England had it's own situation, from Adam and the Ants to the Anti-Nowhere League. There was a wide variety. Now I have to go find my old "Flex Your Head" album, with the classic punk anthem 'I Drink Milk'. It was a fun time to be alive and within driving distance to the 9:30 Club.

Bill Peschel said...

Chuck, Trump reached across the aisle as much as Obama did with Obamacare. What's your point?

In fact, Trump has met with Dems far more than Obama did with his own party. The Washington Post reported regularly the complaints of Democratic congressmen unable to get face time with President Putter.

There are many ways to get laws passed. You're upset because Trump didn't listen to you?

Chuck said...

Bill Peschel said...
Chuck, Trump reached across the aisle as much as Obama did with Obamacare. What's your point?


You just made it.

Doing something like a total overhaul of the nation's healthcare system and one-fifth of the economy on a one-party basis is bound to fail. It will become a hate-object for the opposing party, and will suffer to the point of catastrophe with a change in party rule.

Failure, and division, like with Obamacare.

Chuck said...

My other point, Bill Peschel, is that if you want to do something with just your own political party, just to get it done (like with Obamacare, and the myopic goal of just getting coverage to everybody), you better have what Obama had: 1. A strong House majority and a unified caucus; 2. 60 votes in the Senate; 3. the Presidency (of course) and 4. a kind of a national consensus, usually made through the press.

And even then, you see what happens next. Blowback, on the scale of the 2010 elections. A cataclysm for Democrats that would have a decades-long effect on redistricting.

William said...

I'd sooner listen to disco than to punk rock. Punk rock is probably better than rap, though. I can't make an informed decision since I've never listened to either.....(.I like The Clash. Were they part of punk rock?)....I'm sympathetic to his views, but I don't need the Sex Pistols to help me reach a decision on the major issues of the day. Bruce Springsteen isn't much help either. Thank God for Madonna. There's someone who knows the way and the light.

Birkel said...

@ Chuck, so called

That Paul Ryan sure did a whole lot of work with Democrats to shepherd his bill through the House. Right? And which honest Democrats would Ryan have found to help him get a bill through Congress that would devolve power away from Washington, D.C.? Hell, how many honest Democrats walked the proverbial plank in 2009/2010 to get Obama's agenda passed in the least honest way possible?

What could any Republican do that would be in pursuit of a conservative agenda with the current group of Democrats? And all you can do is find blame for Trump? That's because you're a dishonest big, centralized government fan too, isn't it?

Limited blogger said...

Public Image Limited was quite a good band.

Michael K said...

The Democrats are insane right now. I saw Schumer make a few noises about working with Trump right after the election and you would think he had eaten a baby on national TV.

The Democrats have done a good job scaring their base and now they cannot back away from that. Riding the tiger is always a hazard.

The Toothless Revolutionary said...

Same guy whose anti-Labour antics paved the way for his enemy Maggie Thatcher to fuck over British industry.

Analogous to here: It's the blue collar Reaganites who have swallowed the bait and actually believe that Trump will do anything less destructive to them than Reagan did. They seem to be gullible enough to vote for people who love to make their lives demonstrably worse. Pride goeth before a fall.

exiledonmainstreet said...

"Same guy whose anti-Labour antics paved the way for his enemy Maggie Thatcher to fuck over British industry."

Given what a complete basket case Britain had become by 1979 - the constant strikes, the high unemployment and the stranglehold the unions had on the economy - I think British voters had other things on their minds than the opinions of punk rockers when they went to the polls. The Labour Party is what fucked Britain.

I'm glad to see Labour and their Marxist leader, Jeremy Corbyn, have made themselves nearly irrelevant in the UK today.

Birkel said...

@ TTR

As opposed to the Obama Administration which saw... what, exactly, for the blue collar voters? Should you judge those voters based on their own understanding of their own circumstances or your view of their respective lives?

What does your comment and your answer to my questions reveal about you? And what does that say about the likely respective responses of those blue collar voters to your answers?

QED

The Toothless Revolutionary said...

As opposed to the Obama Administration which saw... what, exactly, for the blue collar voters?

Nothing more than the RED Congress would let him. By then corporatism was baked into the cake, and still is with your Orange Dictator's Novel Billionaire Cabinet.

And what does that say about the likely respective responses of those blue collar voters to your answers?

It depends whether they value their pride more than their quality of life.

QED

Only a totally dumb cunt like you thinks he's demonstrated proofs simply by asking rhetorical questions that he couldn't answer.

QED.

The Toothless Revolutionary said...

The Labour Party is what fucked Britain.

Here's something called "data," my Vatican-approved scientist-appreciating friend!

"Data" is what makes for science. In this case, the science of how Britain has even less income mobility than America - though they're both pretty close to the top.

You gonna blame that on Democrats, too? Just admit that your pseudo-conservative kinks endear you to low income mobility. You love the idea of lower class economic immobility. Just feed their need for pride, (and religion), and tell them that their job is to support the rich. Same as it ever was. Same as every party (including the Tories) could never stop doing in Britain.

A working-class hero is truly something to be, right?

Birkel said...

So your answer is Obama would have been great for the middle class if he had kept his Democrat Congress. And he only lost that Congress because voters did not like what he did those first two years with that Democrat Congress. And that is the fault of Republicans.

Maybe if you call them dumb enough times they will fall in line. It worked for Hillary.

You should not post when you get hammered.

exiledonmainstreet said...

"Maybe if you call them dumb enough times they will fall in line"

Yeah, that's Ritmo's MO. It hasn't worked so far, but, you know, a few more insults might just do it.

I did enjoy watching him get backed into a corner on AGW by far more knowledgeable people. Unable to answer them, he fell back on attacking a grammatical error that wasn't actually an error. That was amusing. So much failure for Ritmo on that thread and yet he marches forth undaunted - and he's all for the Common Man. But is the Common Man grateful? Hell, no!

southcentralpa said...

Yep, that's a limited public image ...