March 28, 2017

Looking for petroglyphs.

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In Capitol Reef National Park, March 9th.

Feel free to explore about any subject in the comments (and to use The Althouse Amazon Portal to pursue any shopping needs).

46 comments:

traditionalguy said...

Great legs on the mountain goat glyph. Obviously men did this art.

grackle said...

Grackle’s coffee drink recipe:

Go to Walmart and buy the cheapest 12-cup coffee maker they have in stock, currently $10.84.

Pick up a can of Great Value Classic Roast Medium Ground Coffee, 48 oz, currently $8.48, unless you’re a coffee purist – in which case go to a trendy up-scale store and pay out the ass for exotic bullshit.

Use bottled water, never tap water.

The brew consists of 5 parts coffee to 1 part chicory(available through the Althouse Amazon portal).

As soon as the brew is completed turn the coffeemaker off, remove the coffeepot and set aside. Never leave brewed coffee on heat.

In a large coffee mug(mine are 20 oz.) add a tablespoon of pure cocoa. Don’t use “chocolate.” Anything labeled “chocolate” contains unwanted ingredients added to cocoa.

I use a sweetener: Pyure Organic Stevia Sweetener, 16 oz. Bag, the only brand I’ve found that doesn’t leave an aftertaste. What complicates it is that the company’s stevia in other forms of packaging – packets, cans, jars – any packaging other than the 16 ounce bag – tastes different. The aftertaste is there. If you look at the ingredients list you’ll see why: The ingredients are not the same. It’s on Amazon only as an “Add On” item, for some strange reason. I find it at certain local stores of a regional grocery chain.

I use a creamer: Condensed milk

Pour from the pot to mugs as long as the brew lasts. Heat up the mugs in the microwave if the pot has cooled. DON”T keep re-heating an individual mug. Never re-heat the pot after it has cooled.

Day and night, morning or evening, I drink a LOT of coffee. I don’t mind if a mug of mine cools to room temperature. I also drink it iced.

Coffee doesn’t keep me awake. I’ve been drinking so much of it for so long that I’ve apparently developed sort of an immunity but it may also have to do with a lifelong ability to fall asleep within 5 to 10 minutes no matter what time of day or night.

Sometimes in the AM I’ll use more cocoa and milk if I feel like a hot chocolate-y morning.

chuck said...

Why am I seeing ads for "Who Pooped in the Park?"

FullMoon said...

Followed a twitter link to AA post from 9/2006.

500 comments. Is that a record?

Michael K said...

"Use bottled water, never tap water."

My wife insists on bottled water. If I get up early (as I usually do) and drink all the coffee she set up the night before, I make another pot with tap water. She never notices the difference.

Michael K said...

I'm looking for petroglyphs in the saltillo tile they are finally laying in my living room. Another week, at least.

An inch of dust on everything from the demo.

Inga said...

Peak Whole Milk Powder

The best powdered milk on the market dissolves perfectly in hot or cold liquids. Full fat, good taste. Makes an excellent creamer for coffee. No tinny taste from condensed milk ( yuck)

Caribou Coffee

Affordable delicious coffee. I wouldn't go back to drinking cheap coffee after having had good coffee.

NOW Foods Better Stevia liquid

Absolutely no aftertaste. The bottle last for months as you need only use a dash.



FullMoon said...

Michael K said...

I'm looking for petroglyphs in the saltillo tile they are finally laying in my living room. Another week, at least.

An inch of dust on everything from the demo


Late to work, dust everywhere. Hope the tile ends job up OK.

tds said...

there's a large cock peeking from behind the rock in the center of the second photo

California Snow said...

I lived 10 years in Utah and never made it Capitol Reef. I didn't do a lot of things I should have during that decade but I did pick up snowboarding so I got that going for me.

Fernandinande said...

When the petroglyphs are high up on a cliff, it's because the base of the cliff used to be there, and has since eroded (or blown) away.

Hagar said...

Not necssarily. Some were done from scaffolding.

Michael K said...

"Hope the tile ends job up OK."

The guy who is laying it now seems to be doing OK. It's looking good for an early stage.

I once did a master bedroom in my house in California by myself. Laid Saltillo and it looked pretty good. I always soaked the tile before laying it and he doesn't but he seems to know what he is doing.

I also remodeled the kitchen and a bathroom by myself. I was 25 years younger then.

Surgeons should be pretty good workmen. Only one of the people interviewing me for the surgical residency asked if I worked with tools and played a musical instrument. Yes for both but lots of bad surgeons would say no.

grackle said...

My wife insists on bottled water ... I make another pot with tap water. She never notices the difference.

If you had told me 10 years ago I would be paying for bottled water I would have laughed.

But try this:

Fill a saucepan with tap water and bring it to a boil for a few minutes. Then pour the water out and set the pan aside until the pan dries to the air. What I see when I do this is a film of minerals and chemicals on the inside of the saucepan. When I do it with bottled water there is no film whatsoever.

NOW Foods Better Stevia liquid Absolutely no aftertaste. The bottle last for months as you need only use a dash.

Thanks, Inga, for that tip. I think I’ll give it a try.

As for the creamer – I’ve tried it all – whole milk, 2% milk, half and half, whole cream, powdered creamer, etc. They all taste different than the other. To me the condensed milk taste is fine for my coffee drink.

And coffee is coffee – for me the basic flavor is always there whatever brand is used. It becomes a matter of what you get used to. I’ve drank coffee from all over the world and they all taste different. Coffee purity is one indulgence from which I’ll refrain at this time.

mockturtle said...

I drink my coffee black and unsweetened but I use filtered water.

mockturtle said...

And I agree with grackle and never keep the coffee in the coffeemaker but pour it into a thermos.

Hey, I'm from Seattle so I have to like coffee! Don't like Starbuck's, though. Prefer Peet's.

pacwest said...

I just started drinking coffee after 60 years of avoiding it. My wife says it delays Alzhiemers. It is startling how quickly the addiction sets in.
I forgot what my point of this comment was.

320Busdriver said...

It's all in the grind. Purists would only use a burr grinder. That said, I just returned from Sams Club where I hoped to find a 40oz bag of SB French Roast. No such luck. Found one in Caribou brand though. Hope its good.

Ann Althouse said...

I don't know about aftertaste, but for me stevia has a bad during taste.

Inga said...

"I don't know about aftertaste, but for me stevia has a bad during taste."

Try the Now brand I linked to, if you already haven't. I could never tolerate the taste of stevia, especially the aftertaste, until I tried this Now brand Better Stevia. I detect no taste other than sweet.

exiledonmainstreet said...

I see the profile of a head in that top picture. The rock on the right. An eye, a nose and an extremely high forehead. It looks like Max Headroom.

Inga said...

Althouse, I'm curious. Did you ever try out any other notebook other than the Moleskine yet? I've been using two or three different notebooks with better quality paper for fountain pen use. The best so far Tomoe River, then the Leuchtturm 1917, then the Stalogy. No bleed through, no feathering. Thinner paper than the Moleskine. My pen just glides over it. I use the A5 size which is the same size as the standard Moleskine..

Chuck said...

Trump used the "child's desk" again this afternoon:

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-energy-idUSKBN16Z1L6

"Trump is amused by the very, very glamorous desk":

http://althouse.blogspot.com/2017/03/trump-is-amused-by-very-very-glamorous.html

David said...

I have decided to worry about self driving cars. I have driven for 57 years without every hurting anyone or being hurt myself. It would spoil my record to die in an accident with a driverless car.

Michael K said...

"What I see when I do this is a film of minerals and chemicals on the inside of the saucepan. When I do it with bottled water there is no film whatsoever. "

The chemicals are delicious. Just kidding. My wife insists on spring water, not distilled.

Spring water probably also has chemicals.

Dust Bunny Queen said...

We use agave sweetener for my husband in his coffee. Sugar for me. About 1/2 tsp. Half and half or heavy cream. No artificial sweeteners...yuck. Grind our beans with a burr grinder daily.

We don't need to filter our domestic water as it comes, through our small water district, from a 400 ft well of water that has been filtered through the lava beds until it appears in the aquifer. Old water too. It is suspected have been traveling in the strata since before the 'atomic era', according to studies done by the district and the State. Pristine with no additives, no chlorine no treatments of any kind required. Nothing but pure water and a bit of minerals like calcium and magnesium.

Our well water is pretty good too. Icy cold even in the summer.

Inga said...

Stevia isn't an artificial sweetener.

"As it turns out, agave has a higher fructose content than any other common sweetener, more even than high fructose corn syrup (HFCS). Because of its reputation as a “natural” sweetener, it is now widely used in products claiming to be good for health – from teas to nutrition bars and energy drinks.

I don’t think there’s any doubt that Americans consume much too much fructose, an average of 55 grams per day (compared to about 15 grams 100 years ago, mostly from fruits and vegetables). The biggest problem is cheap HFCS, ubiquitous in processed food.

Fructose is a major culprit in the rising incidence of type 2 diabetes and nonalcoholic fatty liver disease. It may also increase risks of heart disease and cancer."

https://www.drweil.com/diet-nutrition/nutrition/whats-wrong-with-agave-nectar/

Bob Ellison said...

Fructose is sugar. Sugar is a carbohydrate that is quickly absorbed by the digestive system. Fructose is the name we give to sugars found in fruit.

It's not more complex than that. Fructose and "high fructose corn syrup" are not demonic things. They're food.

Dust Bunny Queen said...

@ Inga

Meh. One little squirt (about 1/2 tsp max per cup of coffee) of the agave in the morning isn't going to hurt anyone. I find the taste of the stuff horrid, but he likes it. We rarely use processed foods, no store bought cookies or cakes, rare fast foods (the once or twice a month McDonalds Sausage Biscuit), no pre made meals or frozen stuff other than vegetables, fruit, meat and fish that has been frozen. Yes, we buy store bought whole grain or multi grain bread when I don't feel like baking. A loaf lasts us several weeks in the fridge. I cook from scratch. The rare and occasional dinner out is also not going to void our trip to heaven.

I have never paid any attention to the food guidelines of the government. They have no idea what they are doing and are constantly changing their minds. Eggs bad...oh wait. Eggs good. Butter bad, use margarine. Then they switch and decide margarine is bad. Make up your minds! Pffft. Ignore them and eat in moderation.

Inga said...

DBQ,
Yes, that's true. A little of anything isn't going to kill you.

exiledonmainstreet said...

"I have never paid any attention to the food guidelines of the government. "

That's wise of you. The USDA "food pyramid" counseling people to eat lots of carbs and very little fat is useless.

buwaya said...

OK, lets consider those petroglyphs again.

Note that the animal figures here are far more "lifelike" than the allegedly human figures in the previous post. These people were perfectly capable of naturalistic drawing, even on rocks.

So why do those allegedly human figures have an inhuman aspect - blocky, insectoid limbs, unlikely protuberances? Hmm?
Were those ancient people trying to tell us something - important?
Were those human figures actually ... human?

Bob Ellison said...

buwaya, could be aliens.

Or maybe that tiny bit of granite was wearing down, and the artist decided to simplify. He/she might have had a Mona Lisa originally in mind.

buwaya said...

"buwaya, could be aliens."

Indeed - cue the eerie music.
I'm always looking for opportunities to play the eerie music.

jimbino said...

Amazing. Those petroglyphs were made by Native Americans when there were no White men anywhere around. Now all those parks and forests are the exclusive country clubs of White men and there are almost no Red, Black or Brown citizens around.

madAsHell said...

Recently, here in the comments, there were some recommendations for accommodations in the Phoenix area. Unfortunately, I can't seem to recover these comments.

We are heading for Arizona in the middle of May.

1. Phoenix or Tucson?
2. We enjoy hiking, and biking. She doesn't golf. People tell me that I don't either.
3. Is Tombstone worth it?

mockturtle said...

1. Tucson
2. Great hiking at Catalina State Park and many other places near Tucson.
3. No

madAsHell said...

Thank you, mockturtle.

I'm fairly certain that you were the author of the original comments.

My wife is a bit of a parlor chick. Can you recommend a place in Tucson for girls that like pretty, and special?

mockturtle said...

I don't live in Tucson but visit friends there often. Can't help you with that.

Michael K said...

Tombstone is kind of fun. If you will be in Tucson, go to Tubac for sure.

It has 1,000 residents and 100 art galleries.

Bisbee is kind of interesting.

For sure go to El Encantada Mall. which has lots of shops and a couple of good restaurants. On the lower level is a grocery store that is fun.

The university is pretty cloistered.

Phoenix is not much fun and everyone lives in the suburbs.

People who work in Phoenix all wish they lived in Tucson. I work there and drive 200 miles round trip two days a week.

Michael K said...

An Obama former Dod official, admits they were spying on Trump.

She was caught up in the moment and spilled the beans. Watch the video.

That’s the set up for former Obama administration official Evelyn Farkas (Deputy Asst. Secretary of Defense) appearing on MSNBC and admitting first hand knowledge the Obama administration spied on candidate and president-elect Donald Trump’s transition team to gather “intelligence” for political use.

The Democrats are after Nunes to try to keep the lid on. Somebody is going to prison and it might be Ms Farkas.

mockturtle said...

If you will be in Tucson, go to Tubac for sure.

Definitely! And, if you're going that far south, you need to visit Madeira Canyon for some hiking, as it's just off the hwy on the way back to Tucson. Great birding there, too.

Michael K said...

St Xavier Mission is on the way to Tubac and is gorgeous. We were going to visit but it was a "Pow Wow" day and a mob scene. We will go again before summer, once the house is finally done.

We are kind of stuck with the house work but once it is finally finished, we plan some day trips.

We will go to the Navajo reservation east of Flagstaff where I bought a gorgeous rug about 15 years ago. We are having the rug mounted and framed, which is costing a fortune, but it will look good in the new house. The "new house," of course, is 40 years old and needs everything replaced but will look great when we are finally done.

A few exteriors are here. the interior has all been painted since then.

Roy Lofquist said...

I lived in Arizona for about 30 years. Spent a lot of time roaming the back country, 4WD a must. Petroglyphs all over the place. I suspect a lot of them meant "for a good time see Hiawatha".

As to visiting Arizona, Phoenix and Tuscon are cities with a lot of nice resorts. My favorite thing to do there is head northwest to Wickenburg, then north up Yarnell Hill to Prescott. From there you travel over the top of Mingus Mountain and down through Jerome to Cottonwood, then Sedona, Oak Creek Canyon and Flagstaff. East to Winslow, stopping at Meteor Crater and the Painted Desert. East to Holbrook then south to the Petrified Forest, Snow Flake and Show Low. From there either west down the Mogollon Rim through Payson or south through the Salt River Canyon to the open pit copper mines in Globe and Miami. It's 3 day breeze through or 7 days to see it all. You go up and down from 1,000 ft. up to 8,000 ft. A million stars in the night sky and some of the most spectacular sunsets in the world.

mockturtle said...

Roy, Mogollon Rim is one of my favorite places. Views are spectacular!

Rusty said...

buwaya said...
OK, lets consider those petroglyphs again.

Note that the animal figures here are far more "lifelike" than the allegedly human figures in the previous post. These people were perfectly capable of naturalistic drawing, even on rocks.

So why do those allegedly human figures have an inhuman aspect - blocky, insectoid limbs, unlikely protuberances? Hmm?
Were those ancient people trying to tell us something - important?
Were those human figures actually ... human?

In all likelihood they are representations of their gods. interpretation of dreams or drug induced visions.
We have not been visited by aliens.