February 25, 2017

"Video captures mouse walking on baby’s crib in Kushner-owned Brooklyn home."

But why is the mouse there? I'm reading all the way to the end of that Daily News article:
Some in the building said video and the complaints stemmed from a rent dispute.

“This is a small group of people who have been here from the beginning and have stopped paying rent,” one resident said. “They haven’t paid rent in about eight months and they don’t want to pay.”

But others say they have complained about many issues, to no avail.

“There have been vermin, and the mouse video is crazy,” said another tenant. “We’re all paying about $4,000 a month — that’s a great deal of money to put up with all of this.”


When we see video, what do we know?

89 comments:

rhhardin said...

What do we know?

52. If I am inclined to suppose that a mouse has come into being by spontaneous generation out of grey rags and dust, I shall do well to examine those rags very closely to see how a mouse may have hidden in them, how it may have got there and so on. But if I am convinced that a mouse cannot come into being from these things, then this investigation will perhaps be superfluous.

- Wittgenstein

Eleanor said...

We know they don't own a cat.

rehajm said...

Stunt mouse.

Ann Althouse said...

"We know they don't own a cat."

I can think of 3 scenarios right off the bat where this video exists and they own a cat.

Laslo Spatula said...

Who will be the first to quote the relevant Rolling Stones lyric...?

I am Laslo.

Bay Area Guy said...

Mick Jagger said it best:

Don't you know the crime rate is going up, up, up, up, up
To live in this town you must be tough, tough, tough, tough, tough!
You got rats on the West Side
Bed bugs uptown
What a mess this town's in tatters, I've been shattered
My brain's been battered, splattered all over Manhattan


-- Shattered (1978) by The Rolling Stones

Ann Althouse said...

I'm very serious about my question "When we see video, what do we know?"

Tell me exactly what you know from that video. You hardly know anything! When you add the context of the rent dispute and Kushner's importance as a political figure, it should heighten suspicion about what you are seeing.

How can you even know that the video was shot in that building? What series of events caused the rat to appear in front of that camera? Is it a wild rat doing its own thing?

Ann Althouse said...

Let's spend the night together/Now I need you more than ever... ?

madAsHell said...

I could see someone creating such a video, and attempt to use it as leverage in a negotiation. TV news would use this as a teaser, and finally run the story at the end of the newscast.

Tommy Duncan said...

The presence of mice most often implies poor sanitation on the part of the resident. The mice go where the food is. There's no food in a hallway or elevator. They found something to eat in the bed.

My own experience is that mice avoid being caught in open spaces. Trotting across a bed is unusual behavior. I set my traps in my garage in safe, concealed places along a wall where the mice feel safe.

Darrell said...

False-mouse operation!

Expat(ish) said...

I assumed it was a dog whistle to draw attention to the rich jewish slumlord trope.

-XC

Freder Frederson said...

Tell me exactly what you know from that video. You hardly know anything! When you add the context of the rent dispute and Kushner's importance as a political figure, it should heighten suspicion about what you are seeing.

I just wish you would display the same level of skepticism when James O'Keefe releases his next video. What ever happened to cruel neutrality?

alan markus said...

So is it mice or rats? Mice in the house can be an annoyance, but rats take it to a higher level.

rehajm said...

A Canadian stunt mouse.

Ipso Fatso said...

Miceses is the reason Allah invented cats!!!

rhhardin said...

Every three years all the wires in the telephone junction box by the back fence are chewed into short circuits by mice.

Where there's polyvinylchloride there's mice.

Sydney said...

I suspect it's a pet mouse. My experience with wild mice is that they move quickly across an open space (like my kitchen floor) from one wall to the other. They're gone as quickly as I realize they went by. Agree with the other commenter that if mouse is searching around a bed like that, there's food in there somewhere.

Laslo Spatula said...

"When we see video, what do we know?"

"It is traditional to read a cup from the present to the future by starting along the rim at the handle of the cup and following the symbols downward in a spiral manner, until the bottom is reached, which symbolizes the far future. Most readers see images only in the dark tea leaves against a white or neutral background; some will also read the reverse images formed by seeing the symbols that form in the white negative spaces, with a clump of dark leaves forming the background."

I am Laslo.

rhhardin said...

DSL makes it through short circuits, but the regular telephone doesn't. Curious fact.

Fernandinande said...

Please allow me to introduce myself,
I'm a mouse of wealth and taste.
+
Rape, murder, it's just a mouse-click away.
+
I frowned at the crumbs of a crust of bread.

Fernandinande said...

My best friend he shoots water rats
and feeds them to hid geese.
Doncha think there's a place for you
In between the sheets?

Curious George said...

"Freder Frederson said...
Tell me exactly what you know from that video. You hardly know anything! When you add the context of the rent dispute and Kushner's importance as a political figure, it should heighten suspicion about what you are seeing.

I just wish you would display the same level of skepticism when James O'Keefe releases his next video. What ever happened to cruel neutrality.

What a moronic response. Please name one O'Keefe video that compares.

Rusty said...

"I thought I told you people. No Pets!"

tcrosse said...

A rodent walks across a bed-like surface at an indeterminate time and place.

Rusty said...

And, Ann. After having watched the video and being told who the landlord is, my first thought was that it is a set up.
Is the crib cam always there?
When was it first purchased?
Etc.

Laslo Spatula said...

"When we see video, what do we know?"

Generally, we see what the camera holder wants us to see, but not always.

Zapruder didn't intend to film the JFK assassination, for example.

Then again, maybe he did. Pretty convenient for him to just be there, filming.

But we may not 'see' what the camera holder wants us to see.

Look at the pictures in the 'Trump / Russian flag" post: a lot of people probably took footage of each other, thinking they were capturing celebratory good-cheer. What the camera also caught was people duped into a prank.

So even the camera holder's intentions can be subverted.

You can't trust the camera holder.

You can't trust the subject.

And sometimes the dress isn't white and gold. It happens.

I am Laslo.

Michael K said...

the same level of skepticism when James O'Keefe releases his next video

You mean when the video shows Democrat activists planning a crime ? Those videos ?

Or the video that showed Robert Creamer organizing riots at Trump rallies ?

Those videos ?

SeanF said...

Keeping vermin off the bed is one of the reasons why normal people have their beds elevated rather than just laying a mattress on the floor.

And it appears that that crib isn't elevated, either. Do they just have a small mattress on the floor inside a playpen or something?

AllenS said...

Mice simply do not care who the landlord is, or how much rent you are paying. If they get into the place of your residence, don't film it, buy and trap and kill it, you ignorant mother fuckers!

EDH said...

This calls for the "shock and drop" system of the Victor Multi-kill.

Electrocutes them in the death chamber and stacks them like cord wood.

Unlike a spring trap that will kill one and let the others free, Multi-kill will terminate them all in rapid succession.

Laslo Spatula said...

What shakes the bed at 44 seconds?

This is 'surveillance' style video, correct?

The mouse didn't shake the bed.

Is someone in the room?

SOMEONE IS IN THE ROOM.

WHO is in the room?

WHAT are their intentions?

COULD someone have accidentally bumped the bed while trying to get the mouse to make another performance?

I'm getting Grassy Knoll Fever.

I am Laslo.

Laslo Spatula said...

The mouse is a Patsy.

I am Laslo.

Bob Boyd said...

"When we see video, what do we know?"

That Trump is unfit, he has to step down and let Hillary be president?

Birkel said...

From the video I can tell that I am supposed to uncritically dislike Jared Kushner because he is rich and married to a woman who is the daughter of a president I am supposed to dislike.

Because reasons. Also, because feelz.

hombre said...

Whose mouse? Who hasn't had a mouse in the house? BFD

mockturtle said...

AllenS advises: Mice simply do not care who the landlord is, or how much rent you are paying. If they get into the place of your residence, don't film it, buy and trap and kill it, you ignorant mother fuckers!

Absolutely! Not rentals, but we had rodents one time in our Seattle home [high-priced neighborhood] and in our cabin. Both were clean, I might add. One morning at our cabin, a mouse ran right over our bed while we were in it. In our Seattle home, a rat pranced merrily across my kitchen counter when I turned on the light. I got real satisfaction out of trapping them [I caught two]. When we left our home for the winter we would put a few boxes of D-con out and often found a dead mouse in the bathtub. Poor devil trying to get water, I guess, and couldn't get out.

Laslo Spatula said...

Look at the condition of the sheets: the tight wrinkles in the upper left don't seem to be cause by an infant.

Maybe it is a sheet pulled out wadded from the dirty laundry hamper.

Because you wouldn't want to put a mouse on sheets you've just cleaned.

No one would put a mouse on clean sheets.

EXCESSIVELY WRINKLED SHEETS.

SOMEONE IN THE ROOM, BUMPING THE BED.

Again: the mouse is a Patsy.

I am Laslo.

Laslo Spatula said...

At 1:17 someone stands on the bed and pantomimes trying to catch a mouse. For all of eight seconds.

Did they actually catch a wild mouse from behind a headboard in eight seconds?

Did they just give up quickly? Or TOO quickly?

If they are chasing the mouse why do they take the time at 1:25 to reach back for the small pillow they stepped on?

THIS IS NOT HOW SOMEONE CATCHES A MOUSE.

A mouse was on the bed and you're leaving the sheets there, and only taking the pillow you stepped on?

SUSPICIOUS BEHAVIOR.

I am Laslo.

Bob Boyd said...

Did you see that movie 'Paranormal Activity'? It had a lot of footage like this where the residents had set up a camera because weird stuff was happening at night. It was actually a pretty scary movie because you never really see the monster. The point where you see the monster is where most horror films turn stupid.

This movie should be called 'Normal Activity'.

AllenS said...

buy and trap and kill it -- should be-- buy a trap and kill it

I live in the country. I have about 10 cats that live in the barn. They catch mice constantly. There is never a shortage of mice.

Laslo Spatula said...

EXCESSIVELY WRINKLED SHEETS.

SOMEONE IN THE ROOM, BUMPING THE BED.

THIS IS NOT HOW SOMEONE CATCHES A MOUSE.

THE PILLOW.

SUSPICIOUS BEHAVIOR.

This was a set-up.

And -- being a set-up -- who is to be harmed by this set-up?

A rich, politically-connected Jew.

Who is to gain?

WHO IS BEHIND THIS?

I am Laslo.



Temujin said...

You can tell nothing from the video. Nothing. But a lack of facts never stops the narrative. "Look...a mouse!" Kusher's a slumlord...and I'm fighting to stay in his slum without paying rent."

As for

Paul Zrimsek said...

A Rolling Stone gathers no mice.

Laslo Spatula said...

Using a rodent to get at a Jew.

The MASTERMIND no doubt chuckled to himself with this twist.

Is it too early to start seeking out Anti-Zionist connections?

WHO IS BEHIND THIS?

I am Laslo.

Drago said...

Freder Frederson: "Tell me exactly what you know from that video. You hardly know anything! When you add the context of the rent dispute and Kushner's importance as a political figure, it should heighten suspicion about what you are seeing.

I just wish you would display the same level of skepticism when James O'Keefe releases his next video. What ever happened to cruel neutrality."

LOL

Curious George: "What a moronic response. Please name one O'Keefe video that compares."

Well, anyone who sells baby parts for profit are basically vermin.

buwaya said...

I have a vague impression here of anti-semitic intent.
Nazi propaganda used rat imagery for Jews.
And there is the rich-Jewish slumlord implication.

It was Nazis behind this, I think you will find.

Drago said...

Bob Boyd: ""When we see video, what do we know?"

That Trump is unfit, he has to step down and let Hillary be president"

Indeed.

Here's how Sally Kohn might demonstrate it:

1. Find Kushner owned property
2. Find mouse
3. Impeach Trump and Pence
4. Special election between Ryan and Hillary
5. President Pant-suits!!

On a sad note, this little roadmap would represent the apex of lefty logic apparent in our current political landscape.

traditionalguy said...

The problem here is the right wing's violation of this mouse's constitutional rights. It is entitled to Due Process before losing its a free nocturnal life. And everyone knows the traps that catch them are the epitome of Cruel and Unusual Punishment. And lawyers await their new court appointments so they can plead out their clients under the Vermin With Small Brains Disease Act. No small brained Rat can morally be punished.

There is a reason we base all LAW on Natural Rights. Down with the Right Wing Human Species Supremacists.

Laslo Spatula said...

Anti-Zionists in Brooklyn.

A dime a dozen.

Yet the PRESS seizes on THIS mouse.

THE PRESS IS USING THIS MOUSE.

The press, who show no interest in looking who BEHIND the mouse.

This. This is CONSPIRACY.

I am Laslo.

Laslo Spatula said...

CONSPIRACY.

This mouse cannot be left to live.

Who will be the mouse's JACK RUBY?

I am Laslo.

Bob Boyd said...

Trump should call those people and offer to build a wall around the crib.

Laslo Spatula said...

The Jewish Landlord/Trump connection cannot be ignored.

We are looking for:

SOMEONE WHO DISLIKES JEWS.

SOMEONE WHO DISLIKES TRUMP.

SOMEONE COMPLICIT WITH THE PRESS.

Narrowing it down.

I am Laslo.

Laslo Spatula said...

Do we know for sure that the tenant actually HAS a baby?

Perhaps the baby has AUTISM.

That one was for Chuck.

I am Laslo.

RLB_IV said...

I would imagine that Blogging Cockroach could add a few details.

NorthOfTheOneOhOne said...

Laslo Spatula said...
The mouse is a Patsy.

So from here on out the mouse shall be referred to as Lee Harvey.

Roughcoat said...


Pizza Rat,
He's all dat!
But roving mice,
Dey ain't nice!

Drago said...

Hey, remember that time that O'Keefe deceptively edited the discussion with that mouse in the Planned Parenthood videos?

Seems like only yesterday.

Bob Boyd said...

FBI transcript.

Bill Kristol: "I cannot tell a lie. I put that crib under that mouse..."

Egg McMuffin: "Shut up, Bill, you f**king pussy."

Bill Kristol: "It was his idea. He said no one would get hurt."

Egg McMuffin: " I've never seen that rodent before in my life."

Bill Kristol: "I just want to go home."

Egg McMuffin: "Shut. The. F**k. Up."

Drago said...

Laslo Spatula: "Do we know for sure that the tenant actually HAS a baby?"

Maybe a dingo got her baby?

Laslo Spatula said...

THERE HAS BEEN A CRIME.

Where are the Police?

I would expect a warrant for the premises, and I would take particular interest in the bookshelves.

Looking for these:

MEIN KAMPF.

THE PROTOCOLS OF ZION.

Khairallah Talfah's THREE WHOM GOD SHOULD NOT HAVE CREATED: PERSIANS, JEWS, AND FLIES.

Richard Verrall's DID SIX MILLION REALLY DIE? THE TRUTH AT LAST.

Issues of THE NATION.

Anything by NOAM CHOMSKY.

I am Laslo.

Drago said...
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Bay Area Guy said...

Next to the videographer is some SJW from ACORN with a cheese-grater and a big old hunk of cheddar, talking on a cell phone to 3 lawyers from the New York Civil Liberties Union.

Those manipulated mice!

Drago said...

Laslo Spatula: "Do we know for sure that the tenant actually HAS a baby?

Perhaps the baby has AUTISM. That one was for Chuck.

I am Laslo"


Now, I am not saying that baby has autism. That would be wrong and could be considered trafficking in cruel and unsubstantiated rumor mongering against an innocent baby who might just happens to be the child my political opponents and for whom I have a derangement level of hatred for.

So no, I won't engage in that activity because that would be wrong.

On the other hand, have you seen the very interesting and informative and potentially "on the mark" comments made by Laslo about the possibilities that the baby might have autism? Something to think about, certainly and discuss as well

SayAahh said...

I have always assumed that the majority of rats are inside the beltway.

Drago said...

Swedish...er..NYC authorities state categorically that there is not and never has been a "mouse" problem in NYC until the Kushners/Trumps created one!!

Drago said...

It's a well known #Fact! that a mice and other vermin reproduce more prolifically in #ClimatesOfHate!!

Gee, thanks Trump.

Is this mouse here legally? Can the mouse be given sanctuary?

Laslo Spatula said...

If the PRESS found a pet-store receipt for a mouse in the apartment do you think they would tell us?

If the PRESS found a note reading "DON'T FORGET TO PUT MOUSE ON BED" on the refrigerator door in the apartment do you think they would tell us?

If the PRESS found a Swastika Flag in the apartment do you think they would tell us?

To ask is -- of course -- to answer.

We need to find the TRUTH ourselves.

I am Laslo.

Rusty said...

"Again: the mouse is a Patsy."

Hey! The mouse is getting scale.

Drago said...

Rusty: ""Again: the mouse is a Patsy."

Hey! The mouse is getting scale"

If only the mouse had been given a speaking role.

FullMoon said...

The crib is next to a mattress. At 1:16, someone steps on the mattress, reaches into crib and removes baby. A hat falls onto the mattress.Someone picks up the hat. There is a pillow on the mattress with no pillowcase. Mattress and box spring may be on floor. Seems like a poor person set-up.

exiledonmainstreet said...

I see a gray mouse and I want to call it rat,
No traps or poison anywhere, I need to buy a cat.

Captain Drano said...

At first I thought it was a babycam (the feed is B&W) and that as usual, it was the inside of the crib it was capturing. It wasn't until the person stepped on the bed that I realized it wasn't. Pretty odd that it is filming the bed, and that the bed is on the floor. Wondered why they didn't pick the child up from another part of the crib vs. climbing on the bed too.

Having lived in a home that upon moving in had many mice (I don't think that is a rat in the video) that is odd behavior for a mouse, they rarely stay out in the open like that. I think it is a set up.

Mary Beth said...

Does a Trump relative also own the apartment house where the girls used brooms and mops to get rid of the rat? (The "bye bitch" video.) I'd be more concerned about a rat than a mouse. Why didn't we hear about the owner of that apartment?

Big Mike said...

The video calls it a rat but it's a mouse. When we were fixing up our old house to sell we called in an exterminator to check it out and confirm that we had finally sealed every hole where a squirrel could get into the attic for the winter. He told us candidly that every dwelling more than a couple years old had mice and there is no way around that.

If I was a Democrat and owned that building I'd fumigate it after taking care to lock the people who hadn't paid rent in eight months in their apartments. No one would say anything and I could file a lien against their estates. As a Republican and especially a Jewish Republican Jared Kushner has to tread more carefully.

mockturtle said...
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mockturtle said...

they rarely stay out in the open like that

Sure they do. When it's dark, they come out and party.

Rusty said...

Drago said...
Rusty: ""Again: the mouse is a Patsy."

Hey! The mouse is getting scale"

"If only the mouse had been given a speaking role."

It wasn't in the script and besides the Disney people have all the speaking mice on contract.

Birches said...

Oh! That's not the inside of a crib? Why would there be a camera at that spot. It's very odd.

Quaestor said...

They might not get free rent outa Jared Kushner on account of this vid...BUT! If they were really brainy, eh?, they could get, like, free beer, which is more important. For life, eh?

Bob Loblaw said...

“There have been vermin, and the mouse video is crazy,” said another tenant. “We’re all paying about $4,000 a month — that’s a great deal of money to put up with all of this.”

If it was such a bad deal you'd move somewhere else.

DanTheMan said...

>>"When we see video, what do we know?"

Almost nothing. CGI makes video very problematic, and every day desktop packages get more sophisticated...

Quaestor said...

When we see video, what do we know?

In this case we don't know the origin of the mouse.

Hagar said...

The mouse identifies as a rat.

Biotrekker said...

Looks like a setup. BTW, we live in the burn's and had mice. We set traps and they died. That's what adults do. Leftists and hipster-doofuses whine and pout.

Biotrekker said...

Looks like a setup. BTW, we live in the burb's and had mice. We set traps and they died. That's what adults do. Leftists and hipster-doofuses whine and pout.

pdn said...

"Now, I am not saying that baby has autism. That would be wrong and could be considered trafficking in cruel and unsubstantiated rumor mongering against an innocent baby who might just happens to be the child my political opponents and for whom I have a derangement level of hatred for.

So no, I won't engage in that activity because that would be wrong.

On the other hand, have you seen the very interesting and informative and potentially "on the mark" comments made by Laslo about the possibilities that the baby might have autism? Something to think about, certainly and discuss as well" - Drago

And CNN is not saying Trump actually played "golden showers" on the bed the Obama's slept on in Russia, but they are reporting that a synopsis of the FBI intelligence can be found at Buzzfeed which details the memos that claim Trump did this in Russia with a bunch of prostitutes. The fact that it isn't true doesn't mean CNN provided fake news based on a rumor - it means CNN reported on fake news being reported as true and detailed at Buzzfeed ----

So, you know, quit saying CNN said Trump participated with prostitutes in the game of "golden showers" ---- Buzzfeed did, CNN just reported to go look at the details at Buzzfeed after reporting that the FBI gave a synopsis of allegations against Trump to some members of congress and Trump and Obama.Oh yes, and Mother Jones published the allegations with details one week before the election ---- CNN is just reporting on the reports.

and Pontius Pilate washes his hands.

Thanks Drago.

gadfly said...

Reminds me of the 1982 incident at 100 Central Park South where Trump was trying to evict rent-controlled and rent-stabilized tenants from his newly acquired property. When they wouldn't move he offered a dozen empty apartments to the city for use by the homeless - he was being altruistic, or so he claimed. But the City "smelled a rat" (pardon the pun) and said no so when a NY Times writer was notified that some Polish refugees needed housing, he wrote Trump several letters (and wrote a series of stories as well). No response was received from Trump, but publicly, he told the city that his offer stood. The "honest and truthful" Donald couldn't remember having received the letter concerning the Polish refugees. So the moral of the story is that if you are part of the media and you ever cross the Trumpster, he will get revenge, even if it takes 35 years. This is not fake news.

30yearProf said...

A mouse, a few mice inside in winter is part of living on earth. You catch them when you can, you try to block them, and you keep things clean so they seek greener pastures. Inevitably one gets thru from time to time. SUCH IS LIFE.