February 28, 2017

"Conway is seen perched on her knees on the couch with her feet behind her in photos taken Monday while President Donald Trump met with leaders of historically black colleges and universities."

WaPo reports.

According to the article, Kellyanne Conway had her shoes on, but you can't see that in the picture.

To help you think about this, here's a recent post where we were talking about Obama sitting on the desk in the Oval Office.

And here's a post from 2011 that explored the politics of shoes.

ADDED: The Daily Mail puts the story in a completely different light. By showing a series of photographs of Conway, it makes it clear that she was getting iPhone photographs of the people who were meeting with President Trump. WaPo just used the photo of her looking at the phone, which makes her seem to be disrespecting these people — ignoring them and checking stuff on her phone.

The Daily Mail does make it clear that her shoes are on.

AND: The top-rated comment at WaPo is:
These low-class, white trash grifters have zero sense of history or decorum. They sully the White House by their very existence. Just like the ignorati who voted them in. Anything of quality is wasted on that legion of shiftless losers.
Second highest:
When I read "Kellyanne caught kneeling in the Oval Office," I thought, "Well, that doesn't seem like news." Then I realized there was a couch involved.
Of course, that made me think of Bill Clinton.

UPDATE: Just after I put up the post, WaPo published a Chris Cillizza piece titled "The ‘Kellyanne Conway on the couch’ controversy is so incredibly dumb."
We have reached a point in our politics — and Trump was the agitator if not the originator of this latest flash of polarization — in which even the most mundane of events is somehow invested with nefarious symbolism.

This is not only dumb, but it distracts from more serious and consequential debates like Trump's travel ban, his campaign's contacts with Russian intelligence officials and his war against leaks. We're WAY better than this. We need to act like it.

168 comments:

Dan said...

I'm sure her shoes are clean.

MisterBuddwing said...

As if being in her stocking feet would have been an improvement!

Of course, she should have been sitting with her feet (in shoes) placed ladylike on the floor.

But people really are going over the top on this.

Lyssa said...

3 thoughts:

* That is exactly what I would be doing, if I were comfortable somewhere. In fact, that's almost exactly the same position that I'm sitting in at my desk as I read this (without shoes, which I slipped off under my desk the moment that I sat down).

* That dress is really cute (though I would think that she would be cold). But she should probably be a little more mindful of her legs.

* She's a fascinating character, and I hope that she's around for a long time.

Bay Area Guy said...

"The Daily Mail does make it clear that her shoes are on."

Fake shoes!

traditionalguy said...

She is a stunning natural resource that attracts the stares from every living being, like a second Niagra Falls. Anyone who is complaining about our Kellyanne being so beautiful is a nasty Grinch filled with jealousy and envy of DJT.

Wilbur said...

Did anyone have the fortitude to examine the 529 comments after the article? Is there a general theme?

AllenS said...

She knows that sitting on the couch with her legs under her, it will be harder for those evil men to try and look up her dress.

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Virgil Hilts said...

Channeling Scott Adams, but for KA's pose, how many people would be staring at cover photos of Trump surrounding by 50 or so smiling black education leaders. Is this really bad publicity for Trump or just the opposite?
Also - agree with Lyssa, that dress on KA looks great.

Sean Gleeson said...

I think we should employ a double standard for men and women here (like with hat etiquette). If a man sits like that on a sofa, it is rude, but not if a woman does it.

mockturtle said...

'Low-class', 'no sense of decorum'. Hmmm. Nothing says high-class and decorous like getting a blow job in the Oval Office.

Michael K said...

She and Trump drive the left insane.

Ben Carson is still being held up by Democrats. Keep those blacks on the plantation !

Luke Lea said...

Fake news? What fake news?

rhhardin said...

She's out of the picture unless the photographer wants her in it.

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Sean Gleeson said...

Hey. How do we know the press photographer -- the one who shot the photo in the Post -- didn't ask Conway to get on the sofa? “Ms. Conway, I'm sorry, but you are blocking my shot of the dignitaries. Could you please move off to the left there?” So she does, and the he deliberately frames to shot to show her doing just what he asked.

Because if that is what happened, this is just more Fake News™ brought to you by WaPo.

Angel-Dyne said...

Rolled my eyes when I saw that headline go by this morning. "Kellyanne Conway kneels on Oval Office couch, sparks debate. Photos of White House adviser Kellyanne Conway kneeling on an Oval Office couch with her shoes on have sparked an online debate about decorum in the executive mansion."

"Serious news" just can't stop its descent into tabloid irrelevancy, can it?

As for the libs' concern about knees and decorum in the Oval Office, the jokes just write themselves.

pacwest said...

I am becoming embarrassed for the press. Just like the beloved uncle who drinks to much at the family Christmas party and winds up with a lampshade on his head they are beclowning themselves for no good reason. I'm embarrassed for the country. The press is such an important part of it and they are acting so silly.

Bob Boyd said...

"These low-class, white trash grifters have zero sense of history or decorum. They sully the White House by their very existence. Just like the ignorati who voted them in. Anything of quality is wasted on that legion of shiftless losers."

Nothing has ever stuck to my shoe that was as icky as this comment.

David Begley said...

Can the press and Dems now drop the "Trump is a racist" narrative?

Luke Lea said...

Best tweet so far:

"I don't like anyone disrespecting the Oval Office. But let's be real here. Feet on the couch pale in comparison to a blowjob under the desk."

Jupiter said...

This makes up for that spirited but unfortunate outfit she wore to the inauguration. What a babe!

tcrosse said...

"These low-class, white trash grifters have zero sense of history or decorum. They sully the White House by their very existence. Just like the ignorati who voted them in. Anything of quality is wasted on that legion of shiftless losers."
Sounds like Hillary is still pissed off.

roesch/voltaire said...

Lets get comfy on a golden couch in the oval office; I like the informal atmosphere sort of like JFK's kids crawling under the desk.

rhhardin said...

The meeting shouts press release opportunity though, that Trump shouldn't stoop to.

Get a bunch of people of the same color and meet with them, the expectation being that they have nothing useful to say. They just shout at rallies, that's their thing.

See if we can calm them down.

If they had something useful to say, they'd show up in meetings not color based.

Bad planning.

Meet with useful people, not fake news interest groups.

MathMom said...

Now, I expect the WaPo, NYT, ABC, CBS, NBC, PBS, MSNBC and CNN to all post pictures of Obama with his shoes and butt on the Resolute Desk (with shoes on, and, thank Gaia, with pants on), and heap scorn on his administration for that...OK, well, not so much, I guess.

rhhardin said...

They're going to replace the couch anyway. Get the deep blue colors back.

David said...

And the press wonders why Trump and his advisors consider them an enemy?

As Michael K points out, how would the press play a Republican slow walk of a black Democratic cabinet nominee?

Everything depends on whether Trump can produce some legislative action on his biggest issues. But if he does, this whole thing is going to backfire on the press.

Keep that in mind as they cover the legislation on taxes, infrastructure, health care etc.

rhhardin said...

Tomorrow we'll meet with yellow people.

Triangle Man said...

That's a cute, comfortable, humanizing, pose for someone who has been presented as robotic.

Bob Ellison said...

I've hit my limit on WaPo clicks this month. (You wanna read? You gotta pay!)

The Daily Mail pics are good. She shouldn't put her shoes on fabric furniture. And she shouldn't be taking cell-phone pics. That's juvenile. But maybe she doesn't care that much what people think, and that would be good.

Gusty Winds said...

This is the best the resistance can throw at Trump? It's a big nothing.

David said...

"Get a bunch of people of the same color and meet with them, the expectation being that they have nothing useful to say. They just shout at rallies, that's their thing."

Completely wrong. There is a deep black leadership in this country that does not scream and shout at rallies (they may march) or get in the newspapers. They know that the Democrats have not served blacks well. They will (warily and for good reason) work with conservatives who can help. That wariness is as much a concern about the reaction of fellow blacks as it is doubt about the sincerity of the conservatives. Probably more.

AprilApple said...

WaPo = is 100% pro-democrat pro-corruption and lies spin.

Bob Boyd said...

Trump the "racist" meets with all these black people and all these black people meet with "racist" Trump. And the story is about Kellyanne Conway's distracted thoughtlessness.

Imagine if one of the black visitors had done the same thing instead, or even a black member of Trump's team, there's no way this would be a story.

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Darrell said...

Chuck should extend his subscription to the WaPo to 2024, at least.

WisRich said...

MSM is outraged.

Flyover country thinks it's a big nothing, even a bit charming.

I'll go with flyover country.

CJ said...

FFS. She was taking a photograph with her iPhone earlier and needed to be on the couch for the angle.

Proof: http://imgur.com/a/MUSwa

Michael K said...

" Anything of quality is wasted on that legion of shiftless losers."

Says a fan of the loser of the election.

Pretty amusing.

Darrell said...

I imagine a lot of farting in the Obama White House. WaPo didn't seem to mind that.

tcrosse said...

How dare KA desecrate the very couch on which JFK used to fuck Judith Exner !

jaydub said...

And the press is outraged that Trump threats THEM with contempt?

David said...

Maybe they are pissed that she can be comfortable in that position at age 50, and look good doing it.

traditionalguy said...
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Eustace Chilke said...

Fake news is short and memorable. Malicious news is more informative. There is real hatred there.

Molly said...

These racists are only criticizing Kelly Conway because she is black.

Angel-Dyne said...

"These low-class, white trash grifters have zero sense of history or decorum."

Current events have persuaded me that there is truth to the idea that some humans get stuck in lower stages of moral development. To them, it's "who, whom" for life, with nary a foray into general principles. They remain a step below the hypocrite, who chooses the worse path but at least sees and understands the better.

The person quoted above, for example, no doubt a Hillary supporter, is probably best considered as a moral savage. He is not a hypocrite, or disingenuous, in any meaningful moral or intellectual sense. He really does not understand how or why the sauce serves both goose and gander.

traditionalguy said...

Her boots are made for walking, and she is walking all over the mentally ill Trump haters.

Anyone who has ever been designated Photographer understands what Kellyanne is doing. A Photog has to hover around, up close to the action, and getting into various body angles that are necessary to frame the shot. Candid action shots are the best. You take hundreds, to keep a couple of Joe Rosenthal winners.See the photogs kneeling at the NFL sidelines so close they get run over.

And what was Joe Rosenthal casually doing, out of uniform, on top of sacred Mt Suribachi where courageous men had just died under massive fire from The Enemies of the People, just doing his job.

Uncommon valor deserves a photographer.

Tommy Duncan said...

"Democracy dies on the sofa".

Even photos can be taken out of context. She had a role at the meeting which placed her in that position. I'm thinking this is a four Pinocchio photo for the blatant effort to paint the Trump Whitehouse in the worst possible light.

Brando said...

If it's not a sexy story about scandalous footwear, I'm not interested!

Unlike Quentin Tarantino who would lose it if the story was about bare feet.

Enlighten-NewJersey said...

Maybe she is using one of the visitor's phones to take pictures for them? I've often done that for others.

rehajm said...

Is that particular sofa so historically significant it has it's own name, like the Resolute Desk? If so, then there's equivalency.

Also, sofas are meant to be sat upon.

The Cracker Emcee said...

Commenters at the WaPo shouldn't talk about Black folks that way. I know White Liberals are profoundly racist but that's just egregious. I'm surprised the WaPo didn't delete that comment.

Balfegor said...

We're WAY better than this. We need to act like it.

Haha, no you're not. Don't kid yourself, WaPo. Nosce te ipsum.

Michael K said...

Maybe they are pissed that she can be comfortable in that position at age 50, and look good doing it.

2/28/17, 8:21 AM


Thread winner.

St. George said...

Eisenhower wore golf shoes (with spikes) in the Oval Office.

Throughout his life, he also had the nasty habit of tossing cigarette butts on the floor. (Three pack a day man.) Not sure if he did that in the Oval Office.



Henry said...

I'm so old I can remember when people criticized Jimmy Carter for wearing blue jeans in the Oval Office. I didn't care then either.

LarsPorsena said...

She's a lovely contrast to all the stiff men in suits.

traditionalguy said...

The meeting is the news not being covered. DJT is moving the Office of Historically Black Colleges into the White House. That is a conquest and flag raising that deserves a photographer catching the moment.

Fernandinande said...

Molly said...
These racists are only criticizing Kelly Conway because she is black.


I'm FREAKING OUT!

"historically black colleges and universities"

What a ridiculous phrase.

Route 66 is a historically paved highway.

Rick said...

We're WAY better than this.

Actually you're not, not even the ones complaining about it. You prove it in this very article by pretending Trump is to blame for how you've acted for decades. As his further comments demonstrate he's only upset because they're doing such a bad job of propagandizing. It never even occurs to him to stop propagandizing altogether.

Quit making excuses for your lousy product.

Henry said...

We're WAY better than this.

Actually, no. You're not.

You're not ONLY this, but this is also what you are.

LarsPorsena said...

Blogger Michael K said...
Maybe they are pissed that she can be comfortable in that position at age 50, and look good doing it.

2/28/17, 8:21 AM

Thread winner.

I second the motion.

AllenS said...

AllenS said...
She knows that sitting on the couch with her legs under her, it will be harder for those evil men to try and look up her dress.

Oops. Just looked at the picture again. The first time, I just looked at Conway on the couch, and then made my comment. Now I see that all of the men, except Trump are black. Oops, again.

Jim said...

Look at where her knees are on the couch. My wife is 4' 11". She often ends up sitting in a similar way on large furniture. Not saying that's what went on here but get a grip folks. Furniture for men has to be too big for most women. BTW 14 years ago tomorrow I saw my wife at a party. She had her leg tucked under her hips because the chair was too big. I was entranced. I got her number and the rest is history.

WisRich said...

Oh, and it goes without saying, if it was Michelle Obama the press would be absolutely smitten by the photo.

3rdGradePB_GoodPerson said...

The first Althosue link goes to a piece that says this photo shouldn't be the main focus of this POTUS meeting.

This looks like an obvious swing and a miss by Althouse. Faking a WaPo POV that isn't. And, completely missing the true disrespect that occurred re this meeting, as reported in the piece at the link.


Anywho,


carry on.

Michael McClain said...

Bravo, Foxtrot, Delta!!

Not one LibCong said a word about THE WON putting His feet on the Oval Office desk.

Get over it! Conway is the first woman to manage a winning Presidential campaign. She should be a feminist hero.

rehajm said...
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Kate said...

I've taken an informal twitter poll this morning and the results are in: Women tuck up their feet. Someone found a picture -- a lovely picture -- of Michelle Obama in a dress and heels with her foot tucked under.

Elite reporters need to get out of their coastal enclaves and see how women in flyover country sit.

rhhardin said...

It's called sitting on your legs, not perched on your knees.

sy1492 said...

God only knows what Bill Clinton did on the couch to whoever during his 8 years. The left has blinders on.

Mike said...


Thanks for the link CJ. That photo puts her position in context. It is the photo an honest journOlist/editOr would have selected to illustrate the historic meeting. But then the good photo would not have stirred up outrage amongst WaPo's hate-a-tariat like the dishonest photo they chose.

Michael K said...

"carry on."

It's amusing that this was what Bill Nye, the Science Guy said after Tucker Carlson showed him to be a fool last night.

Coincidence ?

John said...

Blogger Virgil Hilts said...

how many people would be staring at cover photos of Trump surrounding by 50 or so smiling black education leaders. Is this really bad publicity for Trump or just the opposite?

Nailed it.

It calls attention to a picture that the press would otherwise be covering up. We all know that President Trump is a shameless racist. We all know the only way he allows a black person in the OO is to bring him a sandwich.

If there had been any account, it might not have had a picture.

But now it is all out there for the world to see.

If they didn't do it on purpose, shame on them. They certainly should have.

John Henry

Mike said...

Hey 3rd grader, if that shouldn't be the focus, according to the WaPo, why did their photographer literally focus on Conway and why did the editor choose that pic to illustrate their article? Althouse didn't create the controversy, WaPo did. Deliberately. Are you starting to see a pattern here or are you still stuck on stupid?

rhhardin said...

Press confusing triviality outrage with Trump doing what he campaigned on doing outrage.

buwaya said...

"We're WAY better than this" -Cilizza

No, not really, not anymore. Thats all gone.
It went out with the 1960s.
Its taken some time to get past the pretense, but its all much clearer now.

Michael said...

We used to joke about Bush Derangement Syndrome, but these people (WAPO commenters) have truly lost their marbles. The Post baits them with this silly picture and they rise like fat trout to a fancy fly.

Bob Boyd said...

The author of that nasty comment has probably been "on the couch" twice a week since the election.

Big Mike said...

Cillizza says the Post is "WAY better than this "? Is he lying to his readers or is he lying to himself?

Swede said...

"We're WAY better than this".

No.

You're really not.

Scott McGlasson said...

This has probably already been mentioned upthread, but if she were a woman in an "approved" (ie, Democrat) White House and this happened, it would be lauded as a triumphantly subtle message of empowerment by all the usual feminist suspects.

CStanley said...

When I first saw the twitter storm, my first reaction was that she was taking photos...obviously a faux controversy.

I think someone beat me to this observation, but my second thought was, "would anyone have even seen these photos or known about Trump's meeting with black leaders if she had not put herself in a somewhat awkward position, thus sparking predictable "outrage"?

I'm unsure whether to go full Scott Adams, not sure if this White House really calculates these things in advance...but in hindsight, it sure seems possible and it seems to work.

Steven Wilson said...

Thanks to Michael McClain for pointing out the photo of Obama with his feet on the desk. Photos should be published side by side to illustrate the double standard. Cooing and awing over Obama and vapors over Kellyanne.

I don't "like" Trump, he wasn't my choice in the primaries, but by the time September rolled around I had concluded I would vote for him if I had to crawl through broken glass. And now I'm so happy I did. And I've been getting happier every day since the election. These snitfits from the media just keep coming and as has been pointed out above if PDT is able to enact a meaningful legislative agenda the press will continue to shrink itself into further irrelevance.

Drago said...

3rdGradePB_GoodPerson: "This looks like an obvious swing and a miss by Althouse. Faking a WaPo POV that isn't.

LOL

Since PB claims the Posts POV did not include what it most obviously included, the real issue must be how the Russians hacked the Post and put that picture in the article!

PB & "lifelong republican" Chuck will be all over that emerging story shortly!

eric said...

The press beclown themselves again.

I'm going to love the next four years.

The Cracker Emcee said...

This has to be calculated. Baiting and trolling the Foaming Left isn't exactly rocket science but I bet there are people in the Trump Administration working on raising it to an art form.

Oso Negro said...

These low-class, white trash grifters have zero sense of history or decorum. They sully the White House by their very existence. Just like the ignorati who voted them in. Anything of quality is wasted on that legion of shiftless losers.

Confirming my opinion of the people who read the Washington Post.

Real American said...

When everything is an outrage, nothing is.

Matthew Sablan said...

People who take photos at events sit/stand/jump to strange places. I've definitely climbed on a lot of things I shouldn't have climbed on. One year at AUSA, I climbed on top of a demonstration vehicle to get a picture of the general and director talking in front of a different thing, even though -- GASP! -- there was a sign that said do not climb the vehicle.

From that picture, I guess she: Just took a picture while standing on the couch and sat down to review the photos.

Hagar said...

Maybe they are pissed that she can be comfortable in that position at age 50, and look good doing it.

Thread winner.


Not only good, but natural, and that is a lot of Conway's appeal.

Jeff Brokaw said...

Each time this kind of silly, pointless drama ramps up, the only message I hear is "the press has lost its mind". But hey, it's probably just me and the Althouse readership, right? Nothing to worry about, MSM. You go right ahead and do what you gotta do.

Hagar said...

She may also be taking pictures with the attendee's phones for them to take home and show the wife and kids.

Matthew Sablan said...

"This is not only dumb, but it distracts from more serious and consequential debates like Trump's travel ban, his campaign's contacts with Russian intelligence officials and his war against leaks. "

-- The ban that was a very close mirror to Obama's... his contacts with Russian intelligence officials that apparently never really happened... and his "war against leaks" that hasn't ended in a series of whistleblowers (not leakers, whistleblowers) being arrested?

Is... is this bizzaro world?

Skeptical Voter said...

Low class',white trash grifters? Watch your mouth when you talk about Bill Jeff and Hillary. The difference between a street walking public sperm receptacle and a high class lady is about $250,000 a speech.

Michael said...

She had just taken a picture of the leaders of historically black colleges meeting with the president. She is looking at the picture. The fucking "press" focuses on her and not on the black dignitaries or the subject of the meeting. A room full of black people meeting with the president, the racist president. Some deep curiosity about that eh?

Matthew Sablan said...

I wonder who the photographer was who took this picture, and whether or not we should get some feminist art critic to comment on the "male gaze."

Alex said...

Low class, white trash grifters.

Isn't that the definition of the Clintons?

JSF said...

Liberal misogyny added with a swipe at the Bridge and Tunnel crowd (Or flyover country).

Why are Liberals never called out for their snobbishness or their hatred of Conservative women?

Unknown said...

Wow, look at all the Trumpists enraged by this story. The rest of us here don't seem to care if Conway is a dumbass. We already knew that.

The Cracker Emcee said...

"Wow, look at all the Trumpists enraged by this story. The rest of us here don't seem to care if Conway is a dumbass. We already knew that."

Further photos of the event show she was taking photos. Looks like the Left are the dumbasses.

3rdGradePB_GoodPerson said...

"It's amusing that this was what Bill Nye, the Science Guy said after Tucker Carlson showed him to be a fool last night.

Coincidence ?"

At some point he was (is?) a Seattle person. I met him. He didn't seem to have a good sense of humor. If I had gone past third grade I would have been an annoying high school kid who would have mocked him (to his face) for his poor science understanding when he was a special visitor at my high school.

But that's only a hypothetical.


Sigivald said...

What the actual hell is wrong with these people?

"Disrespecting the White House" for daring to possibly let a shoe (clean enough from walking around the clean carpets all day!) touch a couch?

"Do you want more Trump? Because this is how you get more Trump."

It's like their only idea is to keep doubling down, over and over...

HoodlumDoodlum said...

UPDATE: Just after I put up the post, WaPo published a Chris Cillizza piece titled "The ‘Kellyanne Conway on the couch’ controversy is so incredibly dumb."
We have reached a point in our politics — and Trump was the agitator if not the originator of this latest flash of polarization — in which even the most mundane of events is somehow invested with nefarious symbolism.

This is not only dumb, but it distracts from more serious and consequential debates like Trump's travel ban, his campaign's contacts with Russian intelligence officials and his war against leaks. We're WAY better than this. We need to act like it.


He got the "it's Trump's fault!" out first, so good for Clilizza. "We're WAY better than this" though? No, you obviously aren't, man. I mean, clearly you aren't. All the evidence shows you aren't. Maybe you're trying to express that you, as the Media, SHOULD be better than this...but you aren't. Demonstrably.

HoodlumDoodlum said...

Ann Althouse said...ADDED: The Daily Mail puts the story in a completely different light. By showing a series of photographs of Conway, it makes it clear that she was getting iPhone photographs of the people who were meeting with President Trump. WaPo just used the photo of her looking at the phone, which makes her seem to be disrespecting these people — ignoring them and checking stuff on her phone.

Hey, no fair, that's some of that CONTEXT and NUANCE stuff--that's not allowed. Trump bad! Trump People Bad!

Ignorance is Bliss said...

Chris Cillizza writes...

We're WAY better than this.

No, no you are not.

n.n said...

The Washington Post is sincerely trying to reframe the controversy that soiled the DNC and JournoLists, including the effort of foreign and domestic special and peculiar interests to disenfranchise Americans. The invitation to foreign auditors in 2008 and the ongoing effort to paint/project Americans as [class] diversitists and "=", was only the beginning of their fall and why more people reject the entertainment industry, including the Press.

exiledonmainstreet said...

Who's enraged? I'm laughing at the leftist nitwits who think this is a big deal.

As far as disrespecting the WH goes, c'mon, Unknown, you know damn well if Billy Clinton or Barack had asked you for a BJ in the Oval Office you would have reached for your knee pads.

But "KellyAnne had her feet up, OMG!"

You all sound like a bunch of priggish Victorian grannies - and it's hilarious.

Michael K said...

"Wow, look at all the Trumpists enraged by this story."

Inga, why don't you go over to the Wall Street Journal where you can read two stories about the crash in Target's revenue since the bathroom wars started.

Nobody's enraged. We are amused by the almost certain assumption that, without the idiots at WaPo pushing this story to wound Trump and Conway, the meeting with the black college presidents would probably never have been reported.

You lefties are so dumb you think this stuff is harmful to him.

eric said...

Blogger Unknown said...
Wow, look at all the Trumpists enraged by this story. The rest of us here don't seem to care if Conway is a dumbass. We already knew that.

2/28/17, 11:13 AM


Yes, I'm enraged. Please stop focusing on stories like this. They are just so incredibly enraging. Please stop. Pretty please?

HoodlumDoodlum said...

From Clilizza's post: It was dumb when Republicans leveled the charge of Obama and Clinton disrespecting the White House. It is equally dumb now.

Yeah, it's dumb to say that getting oral sex and playing "hide the cigar" with an intern in the Oval Office is disrespecting the White House. Republicans are such fogeys.

3rdGradePB_GoodPerson said...

"Chris Cillizza writes...

We're WAY better than this.

No, no you are not. "


Golly, that's a great comment.

Unlike the Carville description, some folks can be baited w/ proverbial pocket change. Don't need a hundred dollar bill. Easy marks.

Meadehouse probably has an in-house bet re how many marks will succumb.

Well played, Althouse.

Martin said...

Cillizza is right in principle, this is BS--but he's wrong to say, "We're better than this."

No, they are what they do, and this is them.

Bob Loblaw said...

This is hilarious. The fact that adults are responding to this picture with the typical "I can't even" comments tells you all you need to know about the American left.

3rdGradePB_GoodPerson said...

Add Martin.

Are we into double digits yet?

Rick said...

Media members are dying to get the next Dan Quayle, GHWB, or Sarah Palin. No matter how much it brings the profession into disrepute they know their personal fortunes will skyrocket if they successfully bring down a Republican. The larger issue doesn't matter much because the successful individual will get all the benefit but others will bear almost all of the cost successful or not.

exiledonmainstreet said...

Yes, I'm enraged. Please stop focusing on stories like this. They are just so incredibly enraging. Please stop. Pretty please?

2/28/17, 11:43 AM


Exactly! My highly placed WH source tells me Barron ran down the hallway the last time he was there. That is utterly outrageous behavior! No child of a president has ever disrespected the WH in such a way! I expect at least 30 indignant pieces about this scandal, which clearly shows Trump is unfit and in cahoots with the Russians! CNN and MSNBC should devote at least 2 entire news cycles to it. And it would give a certain "life long Republican" another chance to slam a 10 year old. Go for it, MSM!

Hagar said...

Slightly off topic, but wasn't it George W. who was famous for insisting on everyone being properly dressed in the Oval Office?
Reagan may have done so too, but I do not remember it being "a thing" in his time.

It does seem as if George W. has mostly disappeared from history, except when he says something that can be twisted just a little to mean something critical of Trump.

Bob Loblaw said...

This is what happens when you underestimate your opponent. You fall for "Look! A squirrel!" tactics.

Drago said...

Hagar: "Slightly off topic, but wasn't it George W. who was famous for insisting on everyone being properly dressed in the Oval Office?
Reagan may have done so too, but I do not remember it being "a thing" in his time"

Reagan refused to even take off his coat in the Oval Office, such was his level of reverence for the office. And of course W was respectful of the office.

But since both of those guys were, according to our leftists, LITERALLY Hitler, it's no wonder the dems went "the other way" with putting feet on desks and cigars up interns.

eric said...

Blogger exiledonmainstreet said...
Yes, I'm enraged. Please stop focusing on stories like this. They are just so incredibly enraging. Please stop. Pretty please?

2/28/17, 11:43 AM


Exactly! My highly placed WH source tells me Barron ran down the hallway the last time he was there. That is utterly outrageous behavior! No child of a president has ever disrespected the WH in such a way! I expect at least 30 indignant pieces about this scandal, which clearly shows Trump is unfit and in cahoots with the Russians! CNN and MSNBC should devote at least 2 entire news cycles to it. And it would give a certain "life long Republican" another chance to slam a 10 year old. Go for it, MSM!


Please no! Think about my children. Think about the next generation!

I hate to mention this, because mentioning it is just so awful, but please please please! Do not make a huge story out of the fact that POTUS puts ketchup on his steak.

This will surely destroy him, and the Republican party.

Plus, once again, I'll be enraged. Enraged!!

Drago said...

eric: "I hate to mention this, because mentioning it is just so awful, but please please please! Do not make a huge story out of the fact that POTUS puts ketchup on his steak"

It's worse than that!

Ketchup is red.

You know, "red".

Like the Soviet flag. Hint hint.

Drago said...

Paraphrased Cillizza: Come on, we are much better than this thing we do and have been doing about 50 times a day since forever!

3rdGradePB_GoodPerson said...

"Slightly off topic, but wasn't it George W. who was famous for insisting on everyone being properly dressed in the Oval Office?
Reagan may have done so too, but I do not remember it being "a thing" in his time."

The jacket/tie thing. It was a thing for some cons. But, then the libs found pics w/o a jacket and/or tie. So, there's that. Sorta like making a big deal about W giving up golf, but he still did golf (but just a little).




n.n said...

At the end of the trail of tears from Libya to Syria to Ukraine, the globalists see dead Soviets. How peculiar.

The Washington Post is concerned that the causes, including the rise of anti-native factions, [class] diversity, and foreign influence, of Catastrophic Anthropogenic Immigration Reform will be exposed now that the Left and common interests no longer control the government.

Michael K said...

But, then the libs found pics w/o a jacket and/or tie. So, there's that.

The story about Bush and his coat and tie was because of the fraternity house behavior of Clinton's staff with pizza boxes strewn around and casual clothes. I think both stories were a bit overblown.

Then, of course, Staphenopolis and his pals showed their class by prying all the Ws off the keyboards in the White House.

Which was only fair sine Bill and Hill absconded with the china and furniture like the Arkies they were.

exiledonmainstreet said...

Well, now, eric, let's not go that far.

I think putting ketchup on steak might indeed be an impeachable offense.

Ambrose said...

Sad day, when we need the Daily Mail for the straight facts.

exiledonmainstreet said...


"Which was only fair sine Bill and Hill absconded with the china and furniture like the Arkies they were."

The Arkansas people I have met have far more class than those two. It's true that they are responsible for producing Bill and launching his political career, they have at least made amends by voting R in presidential elections since 2000. And they have elected the excellent Tom Cotton.

That's better than what Illinois and Massachusetts have done.

3rdGradePB_GoodPerson said...

I think y'all are missing the problem re the steak. If you didn't torch a piece of meat, you wouldn't need to dump ketchup all over it to compensate for choosing to have it overcooked.

I.e. well done = bad!

And, bigger picture, this situation is a good analogy for DJT's life, so far. He's often made decisions that resulted in problems. But, he's very skilled at getting out of the jambs he's caused for himself. Sure, banks, his dad, investors, staff and subcontractors are the ones who take the fall. But, transferring the impacts of your messes to other folks is a real skill for DJT.

Not sure how that'd playout as POTUS. Will know more in four years.

For now, order burnt meat and fix it by dumping ketchup on it = DJT.

Yancey Ward said...

Too funny.

Again, Trump is extremely fortunate in his enemies.

Yancey Ward said...

Cillizza's piece can be boiled down to this:

"It is Trump's fault all the left is acting liking idiots."

Yancey Ward said...

And the "We're way better than this" is clearly and conclusively demonstrated to be catastrophically wrong on every single count.

hombre said...

They got Flynn. Now they want Kellyanne.

I was thinking "petty," but "chickenshit" is more apt to describe the people who are focused on this kind of tripe.

FullMoon said...

exiledonmainstreet said... [hush]​[hide comment]

Well, now, eric, let's not go that far.

I think putting ketchup on steak might indeed be an impeachable offense.


If it is Heinze ,there is a story.Bribery? Influence peddling?

mockturtle said...

Exiled says: I think putting ketchup on steak might indeed be an impeachable offense.

If it was a tenderloin, most definitely.

Krumhorn said...

Let's get something straight. A smart, attractive woman can do all sorts of things that the rest of us cannot do, and they look simply wonderful doing it. Anyone remember Vash sitting in Captain Picard's chair?.

It communicates a certain level of intimacy and sexy cute that is an intended message.

The girl on the treadmill with the pony tail knows what I'm talking about.

- Krumhorn

buwaya said...

The girl on the treadmill with the pony tail WISHES to be sexy cute, but is isn't quite and is trying perhaps a bit too hard to get there. I think that's Laslo's joke.

Michael K said...

If it is Heinze ,there is a story.Bribery? Influence peddling?



Then John Kerry, who served in Vietnam, might be involved.

Michael McClain said...

Steven, you're quite welcome. Glad to assist.

Achilles said...

Chris Cilizza shows intelligence:

"We're WAY better than this. We need to act like it."

But also demonstrates a complete lack of self awareness...

No Chris, you aren't.

Dust Bunny Queen said...
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Dust Bunny Queen said...

Steve Wilson said: Thanks to Michael McClain for pointing out the photo of Obama with his feet on the desk. Photos should be published side by side to illustrate the double standard. Cooing and awing over Obama and vapors over Kellyanne.


Also ....not to mention that one thing, The Resolute Desk, is an historically significant piece of extremely valuable, irreplaceable furniture

And the the other is just a used effing couch....literally.

(re-posted to clean up my language....sorry)

jaed said...

Apparently sitting on the couch to take a picture is racist now.

Joe said...

We need a naturist in office who insists that everyone in the oval office is nude.

Joe said...

My first though upon seeing the photo was, "Media, get a grip." My second was, she's a mom. Parents soon realize that furniture is just furniture, not something sacred.

Hagar said...

The Resolute Desk, is an historically significant piece of extremely valuable, irreplaceable furniture

So it is, but also very sturdy and refinishable if needed.
And I see pictures of Reagan and George W.(!) also with their shoes up on that desk.

exhelodrvr1 said...

This is a deliberate move to shift attention away from the meeting with the black educators. Demos are terrified of the possibility of losing the black vote. Trump is bluntly talking their issues, which hasn't been done before. If they let his policies get some traction, they're toast.

khesanh0802 said...

I think Cillizza, who is pretty tuned in to what's going on in DC, is exhibiting the first crack in the MSM hysteria. You know it's coming. No one can remain as off balance as these guys have been for a sustained period. Some of the people in the MSM are going to figure out that they are doing themselves more harm than they are Trump. I suspect if the MSM tones it down a bit and begins reporting on substance occasionally, Trump will tone it down as well.

From the tone of the NYT headlines lately ( I rarely read an article) they are making minor shifts toward rebalancing their reporting. They have a long way to go. Even the "news" people at the WSJ have a hard time editing out their anti-Trump leanings, but they are mild compared to the NYT and WaPo.

Michael said...

I do not endorse Ketchup on steak but I find it hilarious that this choice of mine is somehow deemed sophisticated. People who rarely (intended) eat steak or who believe it to be some super expensive cut of beef to be treated just so are people without much sophistication themselves. Choosing to eat steak rare and sans sauce does not make you smart or sophisticated any more than being a Democrat gives you even a smidgeon more smarts.

Krumhorn said...

The girl on the treadmill with the pony tail WISHES to be sexy cute, but is isn't quite and is trying perhaps a bit too hard to get there. I think that's Laslo's joke.

I'm not so sure. She knows that men obsess over her ass which she has worked hard to get since she started out as a heavier version of her self. The pony tail goes swish swish for a reason, and she knows it. The joke is her obsession with the treadmill....and God bless her.

Kellyanne knows she looks good even if she has already collided with middle age, and her position on the sofa wasn't accidental. Swish swish.

- Krumhorn

SukieTawdry said...

Kellyanne should keep her feet off the furniture in the Oval Office. Everyone should keep their feet off the furniture in the Oval Office. They especially should keep their feet off the Resolute desk. That is all.

Kep Hartman said...

1. If you respect the furniture of your host(s), keep your feet off the furniture.

2. To hear WaPo's commenters, Conway's gaffe is somehow more offensive than Hillary hiding 65,000 emails on her homebrew server that was easily hacked by our enemies.

3. The fact that the top-rated comment is so bigoted says a lot about WaPo's readers.

4. These are the likely same people complaining now that didn't see anything wrong with a President getting a Lewinsky in the Oval Office, so you know they are pretty deranged.

5. That WaPo would publish that one phot shows how they are willing to publish "fake news" to stir the pot.

6. I could go on.

Kep Hartman said...

Should be: If you wish to show respect for your hosts, keep your feet off the furniture...

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Unknown said...

Bush with feet up on desk in Oval Office.

Gospace said...

I'n trying to remember all the MSM outrage about Lincoln Bedroom rentals in the Clinton White House, and they're just not coming to me.

Unknown said...

These guys hate her for putting Trump into the WH and making them all look bad. Ha! I love it.

Michael K said...

Inga knows how to find Media Matters on her keyboard. Very good Inga.

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