December 20, 2016

The "shocking experience" and "extraordinary opportunity" that is Donald Trump.

On last Sunday's "Face the Nation," we heard from Henry Kissinger:
Donald Trump is a phenomenon that foreign countries haven’t seen. So it is a shocking experience to them that he came into office, at the same time, extraordinary opportunity. And I believe he has the possibility of going down in history as a very considerable president, because every country now has two things to consider, one, their perception that... the outgoing president basically withdrew America from international politics, so that they had to make their own assessment of their necessities, and, secondly, that here is a new president who is asking a lot of unfamiliar questions. And because of the combination of the partial vacuum and the new questions, one could imagine that something remarkable and new emerges out of it. I’m not saying it will. I’m saying it’s an extraordinary opportunity.

90 comments:

AprilApple said...

Except for Iran. Obama gave Iran everything, along with piles and pallets of our cash.

Gahrie said...

secondly, that here is a new president who is asking a lot of unfamiliar questions.

Like: "What is in the best interests of the American people".

or

"Why should the U.S. pay for the defense of Europe?"

or

"Why should the U.S. support the poor of Mexico?"

or

"Why should the US import more people who oppose our way of life?"

traditionalguy said...

Kissenger sounds a lot like he sees a 1795 France which has emerged from its Revolution and naming a popular Corsican General as its new Chief of the Army of the Interior. That comes out of his background in European political history. The Revolution started the modern world free from a Christian Establishment of Kings, and none of the other kings/countries could withstand Napoleon's leadership bringing that new force against them.

Quaestor said...

An odd string of days it has been. First we learn Zsa Zsa Gabor is dead, someone I assumed was already long dead. (I watched "Queen of Outer Space" in her honor last night.) Then Hillary's EC ploy backfires on her to a degree even Sophocles would find implausible. Now Mr. K shows up. He's been ancient for like, what, 50 years? How long can one be elderly?

Big Mike said...

@Quaestor, once you become elderly you are elderly until the day you die.

Ann Althouse said...

Younger people forget that the wish to have a lot of years in your life is a wish to spend a large proportion of your life as an old person.

Ann Althouse said...

Personally, I like being old. It's immensely more enjoyable than I imagined when I was young. Young people should not bring themselves down by worrying about old people being unhappy. They should worry more about preserving their bodies and brains so they'll get the old segment of their lives and be able to enjoy it too.

rhhardin said...

Problems that you can't talk about owing to political correctness cannot be solved, and instead get worse under perverse politically correct fixes.

This is largely the work of the women's news services editing every national debate.

Trump gets around that editorial voice and so can actually work on the problems finally.

There's the extraordinary opportunity. For the moment soap opera isn't the editor in charge.

FleetUSA said...

Amen Professor. Rah, rah for the older generation

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Hagar said...

The dear queen is French?
Who knew?

Quaestor said...

They should worry more about preserving their bodies and brains so they'll get the old segment of their lives and be able to enjoy it too.

Yesterday I watched a vid of Jerry Lewis, who is 90+ but still younger than Mr. K, having a ball taking the starch out of an interviewer which a bad case of the clichés.

He's enjoying I, I think.

Quaestor said...

it, damn it!

I'm having so much trouble with IT this morning I think I ought to be a charter member of the Knights Who Say Ni! (or is it Ecki-ecki-zam-poo-wonh-mmbl?)

320Busdriver said...

I'd be happy if we can feel like our kids will have a good shot at enjoying a better standard of living than we do.

SayAahh said...

Kissinger is the personification of 'senior citizen' both in age and intelligence/wisdom.
Long live Dr. K.

Jersey Fled said...

Reading Kissinger's comments makes me long for the days when we had a real Secretary of State. Not the last two dufooses.

mockturtle said...

Personally, I like being old. It's immensely more enjoyable than I imagined when I was young. Young people should not bring themselves down by worrying about old people being unhappy. They should worry more about preserving their bodies and brains so they'll get the old segment of their lives and be able to enjoy it too.

Me, too, Ann! You couldn't pay me to be young again. Youth is filled with angst and insecurities that we are happily free of. I don't envy the young at all.

William said...

Kissinger has a ponderous speaking style, and you would think that his books would be dull and heavy, but they're not. I've read a couple of them. He's no P.G. Wodehouse, but his writing is lucid and entertaining. His book Diplomacy is well worth reading.

n.n said...

President Trump... leaving the twilight.

mockturtle said...

The only President I can think of with a weaker foreign policy than Obama's was Carter.

mockturtle said...

Note: I still have Henry Kissinger's Playgirl centerfold.

JSD said...

Don't forget Aunt Bee, she was pretty bad.

Guildofcannonballs said...

I started Game of Thrones 'cause I am more specialer than you and got a free month subscription.

A great line is close to "of course opportunities arise from a crisis that is hardly a unique insight" or something.

William said...

When I was younger, I was surrounded by lunatics who told me that high school and youth should be the happiest days of my life. That was manifestly not my experience. I thought that remarks about old age being the "golden years" was a similar load of crap. Imagine my surprise when I discovered that old age has not only been pleasant but rather intensely enjoyable. Things get better. You just have to hang in there for seventy years or so........I've got no problem with old age, but I'm unable to think of a bright side to death, and that's the the next plot point in my narrative.

aritai said...

Who can write the tightest and most complete definition of draining swamp? As a fellow MBO executive, here’s what I think Mr. T. is up to, aided by his ladies. Step by step, hidden from view, except from those Never Trumpers, who can see the end of their privileged and fat life in their new Jacksonian future, and where the next step is hard, divide and conquer like the auto unions did very successfully, pick of the weakest and make everyone else sign the same deal, and those that go quietly get a large spoonful of sugar to make the medicine go down a bit easier. Where this isn’t pork it’s personal sugar, because the medicine is desperately wanted by the people. Which is what “populism” really is. Not more fat for the elites.

My definition is a business like process, with a hired (city) manager, where congress is only in session for 4 years, with elections that coincide with the president who hires the city manager, as well as the Supreme court turning over that often. No pork

given this the corrupt swamp of the corrupt cycle of both parties managing the rise of elected officials thru congress, committees and chairmanships disappears, as does the role of parties, perhaps all representatives are simple ballots top N for the number of seats available to it. During their one year they write the "management by objectives" argued out between both houses.

doing their off years they go home to work and remember what it's like to have to meet a payroll and all that means.

With the president a pseudo president for the city manager. keeping him pointed and a consultant everyone else meeting their commitments, smoothing out bumps, etc.

Anyone else? No corruption. Clear goals. No indeterminate policy that changes the rules at every vote. Markets that work. The envy of every other country. so We get a bunch of BR-to-U.S. system-model-exit. Since it's all just software, could run it on a big laptop.

The states can do anything they d@mn well please. Save no no-borders for citizens so citizens can vote with their feet, so States have to compete for the love of thee citizens and their free enterprise. Larger issues can be left to state-to-state compacts, like they currently do with river systems, etc.

Any others? this draining of the swamp model just follows General Eisenhower of how to drain the Military Industrial complex swamp, but applied to everything. Where congress as currently empowered corrupts everything including the pipeline that creates members that know they must play the committee, seniority, chairmanship, donor pursuit, game so their voters just keep on electing them based on pork rather than meeting objectives that are well defined and measurable.

dreams said...

Kissinger had quadruple bypass at about age 58 and when his Dr suggested losing some weight, he scoff, however he is still living and still fat at age 93. Yet another fluke of longevity.

MikeR said...

"their perception that... the outgoing president basically withdrew America from international politics, so that they had to make their own assessment of their necessities, and, secondly, that here is a new president who is asking a lot of unfamiliar questions." :O Any idea what he's talking about? I want Trump to do a lot less international politics. Stop starting wars, for example.

JWH said...

aritai when you drain the swamp there is always slime at the bottom.

Chuck said...

Anybody listen to Harry Shearer's "Le Show" on public radio?

Here's a segment from last Saturday's show; an audio sketch on Hillary/Henry Kissinger:

http://harryshearer.com/le-shows/december-18-2016/#t=45:05

Duke Dan said...

When my grandfather had his bypass surgery the person next to him in recovery was Kissinger who just had had his.

SayAahh said...

"one could imagine that something remarkable and new emerges out of it. I’m not saying it will. I’m saying it’s an extraordinary opportunity."

There is a definitive biography titled Wondrous and Strange.
Your quote above reminds me of that.

Rusty said...

Chuck said...
Anybody listen to Harry Shearer's "Le Show" on public radio?

The actor that does the voice of principal Skinner?

Then, no.

traditionalguy said...

Moses lists God's blessings in Deuteronomy, and they include a full life span. The Curses list includes your life cut short.

MadisonMan said...

My Facebook feed is still full of conniptions and references to Nazis.

I have friends who fall for clickbait and then they share.

I look forward to a tapering of this.

Drago said...

It's very important to "lifelong republican" Chuck that whenever the conversation turns to weighty matters that there be a deflection to some liberal of some sort spouting some perspective that is usually to the detriment of the republicans.

Kudos again, "lifelong republican" Chuck.

Gee, it's almost as if world events, which are playing precisely to some of Trumps stated campaign purposes, needs to be deflected by those on the opposite side.

Big Mike said...

Young people should not bring themselves down by worrying about old people being unhappy. They should worry more about preserving their bodies and brains so they'll get the old segment of their lives and be able to enjoy it too.

This septuagenarian agrees.

Michael K said...

Kissinger is seeing the last election as an experiment by the American people. What we had was not working.

The Democratic Party had gone to extremes in its theory that interest groups with varying priorities could be molded into a political machine.

The governing Republicans had tried to imitate the Democrats and compete for the interest groups. They were failing.

A large segment of the population had given up on both. Trump was very well known, especially by those who had given up on political parties.

He was willing to say things that both parties were afraid to say. It aroused the interest of many and that included many who were well educated and not poor but who did not feel we were on the right track.

Angelo Codevilla had stated this very well in an essay that was read by thousands.

We will see how well the experiment goes.

Unknown said...

When I was young I dreaded growing up. I did not want responsibility and uncertainty that comes with getting out from under parents.

Now that I am old, I fear retirement -- when the money that comes in is smaller with a finite life of it's own.

The only good time is the one I'm actually living in.

Unknown said...

Kissinger has been peddling BS with the veneer of authority for a half a century.

AJ Lynch said...

Seems to me, it makes sense for American foreign policy to try and align ourselves with the smaller powers like Russia so we head off their aligning themselves with China which is the biggest kid on the block next to the USA. Could that be what Trump is trying to do?

AllenS said...

AJ, to expand a little bit on your observation, I think Trump knows that Russia also faces a huge threat from Islam. Two strong horses are better than one.

AJ Lynch said...

AllenS - so you are saying great minds [you and me and Trump] think alike!

AllenS said...

Yes, and after I posted my comment, I thought back many years and iirc, Islamist motherfuckers took over a school somewhere in Russia and raped a lot of the young girls and shot a large amount of the students. Russia knows more about Islam that we'll ever know.

AllenS said...

Here it is --

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Dust Bunny Queen said...

Agree with those who are enjoying the perks of being older.

Someone on Reddit defined it that when you are young you care about all sorts of things that are really not that important. He called it "give a f^cks". Each person has an allotment of GAFs. You have lots of them to give when you are young. As you get older you have pretty much run out of your lifetime allotment which is why old people just don't "give a f^ck". They have either run out or are saving them for when it means something.

I thought that was profound, funny and correct. I'm hoarding my remaining stash to use when they are effective :-)

I'm unable to think of a bright side to death

Well, since no one gets out alive, the bright side would be to be able to finally see what, if anything, happens next. Life is a mystery. Death is the wrap up of that personal and individual mystery novel in which we are all the star. The conclusion.

Chuck said...

Drago; I just don't live in a Fox News bubble.

I listen to public radio (and frequently doubt its leftwing bias). I follow the Times, much of the time through Professor Althouse's criticism. Criticism by Althouse, to which I routinely subscribe. I subscribe to the New Yorker, understanding its concerted partisan bias in the era of David Remnick.

I do all of those things to be the best-informed partisan that I can be, for the opposite side. Because I naturally subscribe to the Wall Street Journal, and the Weekly Standard, and devotedly read the National Review.

At the bottom of the information barrel, there is Sean Hannity and his Trump infomercial. And Bill "Falafil" O'Reilly and his clown show. It isn't even all bad, with O'Reilly. Because Bernard Goldberg and a few others make it partly worthwhile.

I'm not looking to have my preconceptions confirmed by any comforting news outlet. I am looking for the best information with the least bullshit. And I like advocacy. I can see through advocacy's flaws. I like news that is forged in adversarial settings.

Which is why I can never be a Trump supporter, even though I am a Trump (Republican) voter. There is too much baggage with Trump. He hasn't gone through a day, in more than a year, where he did or said something that I can't explain and/or defend.

madAsHell said...

Personally, I like being old.

I can no longer mix sex, and alcohol......cuz that dog don't hunt.

All those woman with whom I did share sex, and alcohol......they are still young, and beautiful.

Other than that, old age beats the alternative.

madAsHell said...

Yes, I think that is locker room talk.

n.n said...

That's one less liberal lawyer. A step out of the twilight zone. Perhaps a separation of Pro-Choice and State. One can hope.

Fernandinande said...

I wonder who's Kissinger now.

Todd said...

Chuck said...

Which is why I can never be a Trump supporter, even though I am a Trump (Republican) voter. There is too much baggage with Trump. He hasn't gone through a day, in more than a year, where he did or said something that I can't explain and/or defend.

12/20/16, 10:24 AM


He is packing his cabinet with top-notch folks that can get stuff done. He is doing a lot of "presidential" things, he is upsetting ALL the right people but you still can't bring yourself to support him?

No one is perfect and everyone has warts. Even my heroes Reagan and John Wayne had flaws (I am sure John must have one somewhere). Trump has many redeeming qualities and I hope that his tenure as President will [among other things] cause even you to experience a turn-around and "officially" support him.

tcrosse said...

It's moot now, but what would HRC's foreign policy have been ? I'm sure it would have been the best that money could buy.

mockturtle said...

Chuck asserts: He hasn't gone through a day, in more than a year, where he did or said something that I can't explain and/or defend.

And, heaven knows, he will rely heavily on you to explain and defend him! What a self-important schmuck you are!

Chuck said...

Todd, I have posted previously in Althouse blog comments that I have been thrilled with many of Trump's cabinet picks.

One thing about Trump; he doesn't hold any grudges. Maybe because he doesn't have any real principles.

But he named Mitch McConnell's wife to Transportation. He named GOP SuperDonor (and Bush/Fiorina/Rubio supporter) Betsy DeVos to Education. I feel great about Jeff Sessions as AG. I like the Republicans whom Trump is drawing out of the House to fill the cabinet position at HHS, and the WH Budget job. And I like Oklahoma AG Scott Pruitt at EPA. These are all people who would be on an AEI Dream Team.

And, I expect a happy day when President Trump nominates a judge to fill the seat of the late Justice Scalia.

But you raised something that really intrigues me; apart from the fact that he won (which is one, single, large "redeeming quality"), what are Trump's other "redeeming qualities"?

Chuck said...

mockturtle said...
Chuck asserts: He hasn't gone through a day, in more than a year, where he did or said something that I can't explain and/or defend.

And, heaven knows, he will rely heavily on you to explain and defend him! What a self-important schmuck you are!


So, you can defend Trump. Have at it! Start with his being a Birther, a Truther and Vaxxer.

And don't look to me for any help in that.

Michael K said...

And, heaven knows, he will rely heavily on you to explain and defend him! What a self-important schmuck you are!

I was thinking the same thing. Ricochet, the web site for "real conservatives," is full of the same sort of people.

Matthew Sablan said...

"He is doing a lot of "presidential" things, he is upsetting ALL the right people but you still can't bring yourself to support him?"

-- You can support someone without agreeing with them. I read that as Chuck begrudgingly voted Trump, but is agnostic on whether Trump will do anything good/worthwhile. Which is the position a lot of moderate Republicans have taken.

Matthew Sablan said...

"One thing about Trump; he doesn't hold any grudges. Maybe because he doesn't have any real principles."

-- Lucky for us, business is business, and he doesn't seem to let his feelings get in the way of business. Now, politics is business.

rcocean said...

This sounds terrible but I mean it:

Would Kissinger just die already.

Why is this character being quoted as some sort of "Wise old man"? Didn't he help string out the Vietnam war for 4 useless, bloody years? Wasn't he responsible for Detente?

I'm trying to figure out exactly what he did to make him as "genius" we're all supposed to venerate.

Richard said...

There appears to be a plethora of alter kackers on Ann’s blog.

Hagar said...

The biggest thing the Trump administration can do may be "Drill baby, drill!"
Cheap oil and gas will deprive our chief enemies of the money they need to finance themselves and their wars, and will stimulate economic growth among everybody else.

mockturtle said...

Chuck asks: what are Trump's other "redeeming qualities"?

For one, he knows to actually LOOK at an invoice [bill] before paying it. I don't recall any President who did. Or Congressman, for that matter. [After all, it's not their money]. I truly believe government contractors will be kept on their toes with the Trump team in charge.

richard mcenroe said...

A lot of the success of Reagan's first term owed to the Democrats having convinced the world that Reagan was a lunatic capable of anything. "For God's sake don't provoke him..."

Dust Bunny Queen said...

what are Trump's other "redeeming qualities"?

First of all I could not care less about Trump's personal life, unless he is sacrifice kittens to Baal.

I am a results oriented person and I believe that Trump will get results. This is what he has done his entire life.

Redeeming quality #1 Pragmatism. Not an ideologue but a realist and a pragmatist.

Redeeming quality #2 Business experience. The government must be run like a business in order to get things done, on time, on budget.

Redeeming quality #3. I think Trump has run out of his lifetime allotment of GAFs. (see my earlier comment) and to me this is a good thing.

There is more but I'm off now to visit with our insurance agent and negotiate a better deal :-)

dreams said...

"The biggest thing the Trump administration can do may be "Drill baby, drill!"
Cheap oil and gas will deprive our chief enemies of the money they need to finance themselves and their wars, and will stimulate economic growth among everybody else."

Trump is going to make America fracking great.

rehajm said...

I'm trying to figure out exactly what he did to make him as "genius" we're all supposed to venerate

Despite his physical appearance he managed to get with Jill St. John, Shirley Maclaine, Candice Bergen, Liv Ullman...

Matthew Sablan said...

"For one, he knows to actually LOOK at an invoice [bill] before paying it."

-- In the kids movie Richie Rich, the rich boy's dad is seen meeting with The President, where he says something like: "If you make less money than you spend, you go in debt," followed by the President [voiced but unseen], going "ooooooh," like it is a huge revelation.

I thought it was a joke, but no. I think a crash course in How Money Works would be great for government. And people. In fact, maybe we should all take a break from getting woke to the latest trend and get Budgeting 101.

Chuck said...

mockturtle said...
Chuck asks: what are Trump's other "redeeming qualities"?

For one, he knows to actually LOOK at an invoice [bill] before paying it. I don't recall any President who did. Or Congressman, for that matter. [After all, it's not their money]. I truly believe government contractors will be kept on their toes with the Trump team in charge.


Fine. No matter how cartoonish in reality (you think Trump is going to read a federal budget?!?), I'm fine with this. I'm really intrigued, by Trump's naming Rep. Mick Mulvaney of South Carolina as WH Budget Director. The guy who will be overseeing the massive collision between Trump's infrastructure spending proposals, and Trump's tax cut proposals.

Chuck said...



...And I am sorry, everybody; when I listed "Birther, Truther, Vaxxer..." I forgot "Draft Dodger."

Todd said...

Chuck said...

But you raised something that really intrigues me; apart from the fact that he won (which is one, single, large "redeeming quality"), what are Trump's other "redeeming qualities"?

12/20/16, 11:03 AM


I don't know the man personally but from what I have seen/read about him:

- He loves his wife
- He loves his kids
- He loves his country
- He knows his business (construction)
- He seems generous with his money and time
- He seems to appreciate "talent" regardless of the source and looks to surround himself with it
- He has actually accomplished "stuff".

Did you happen to see the video of the congressional hearings he took part in that discussed the renovations of the UN building? He was brilliant. He had full command of the facts and figures of the project and was able to explain what was wrong with it and why. What was reasonable time and costs for the project (versus what they were budgeting) and details of the processes involved. The man is no dummy at all.

What might you specifically be looking for? I mean it isn't for me to say (or care) one way or the other as to if you should "approve" of him or not. I am still just so grateful that we won't be staring down 4 long dark years of "Madam President" Clinton that I still catch myself with a Cheshire cat grin on my face.

Gahrie said...

...And I am sorry, everybody; when I listed "Birther, Truther, Vaxxer..." I forgot "Draft Dodger."

Man I am glad Chuck is a lifelong Republican....can you imagine the shit he'd be talking about the Republican president-elect if he was a Democrat?

Chuck said...

- He loves his wife
- He loves his kids
- He loves his country
- He knows his business (construction)
- He seems generous with his money and time
- He seems to appreciate "talent" regardless of the source and looks to surround himself with it
- He has actually accomplished "stuff".


LOL. He loves this wife. For now. Forget the abusive gossip he engaged in with New York writers about wifey#2, the spectacular Marla Maples. Forget her nondisclosure agreement payment. And forget the NDA with Ivanka, too. And Ivanka's deposition under oath in which she described vicious physical abuse over The Donald's scalp surgery.

He may love some image of the country; not enough to have served in the military (and to go to some apparent lengths to avoid service), and it didn't stop him from uttering the Al Franken-penned monstrosity, that he preferred "people who weren't captured."

We all think that one of several likely (there may in fact be many) reasons why he won't produce copies of his tax returns is that they demonstrate a shocking lack of any charitable giving consistent with someone of Trump's purported net worth.

Few people in American life seem to have had the personal record of vindictive litigation that Trump has had. If you can name a more litigious public figure (with more meretricious lawsuits and threatened lawsuits), please name him or her.

Chuck said...

I keep forgetting stuff. I forgot to mention the hilariously awful history of Trump University, resulting in the $25 million fraud settlement. Guy knows his business. Read Trump's deposition in that case, for some of the best bits.

Jonathan Graehl said...

he's doing things his way, and that's actually different. and it's hard to predict what will come. interesting times.

AJ Lynch said...

AllenS- the terrorists there were the Chechian Muslims which is where the Boston Marathon bombers came from.

AJ Lynch said...

Re Trump's redeeming qualities:

What MockTurtle said at 11:38AM.

Darrell said...

Fuck off, Chuck. Just a bit of advice. . .

Darrell said...

Obama was the word. Trump is the deed.

readering said...

It will be interesting to see what happens to Trump's approval rating when the Apprentice out takes and perhaps Miss Universe out takes finally turn up on line. Obama approval-disapproval rating today 57-39. Trump's last week was 48-48. Doubt he ever gets the disapproval rating below 40.

Darrell said...

Tom Arnold? You've got to be kidding. More lefty masturbation. Obama's approval numbers are as phony as the election polls. Trump's numbers are being kept low, because Lefties can't help but be dishonest assholes. Obama would be lucky to have a 40% approval rate.

readering said...

Not too bad a Trump number, given that among voters this Fall Trump got a shade under 46% and not-Trump a shade over 54%. The mix of non-voters responding to Gallup must be a little more favorable to him than the voters.

I suspect Obama's approval rate will inch up at the end to somewhere between Clinton's 60% and Eisenhower's 58%.

Drago said...

As noted earlier, it's very very very important for "lifelong republican" Chuck to continuously mouth democrat/DailyKos talking points while avoiding the serious issues of the day.

It's almost as if "lifelong republican" Chuck is capable of channeling directly any and all talking points from the left.

The strawman/non-sequitor regarding Fox News fits perfectly within that framework.

Unexpectedly.

Drago said...

non-sequitur

Bad Lieutenant said...

Chuck said...
mockturtle said...
Chuck asserts: He hasn't gone through a day, in more than a year, where he did or said something that I can't explain and/or defend.

And, heaven knows, he will rely heavily on you to explain and defend him! What a self-important schmuck you are!


So, you can defend Trump. Have at it! Start with his being a Birther, a Truther and Vaxxer.

And don't look to me for any help in that.

12/20/16, 11:05 AM

Oh, Chuck, blabbity blah.

Let me make it simple for you: nobody cares. Nobody else cares about the things you claim to care about. I could refute your points but it would be a waste of time. True or false, it's all unimportant.

Your best tactic as a liberal Democrat, Chuck, is to stick to that kind of fluff, because you have nothing real. The best tactic for us conservatives is to ignore you.

Fortunately it's only a blog so such chat doesn't matter much either way. More fluff, as evidenced by your tongue-baths of our gracious hostess. But at least you serve as an object of pleasure: one can always enjoy your discomfiture. I suppose it's like a sadist listening to his victim scream. Louder, Chuck, please. What's the word? Ah, schadenfreude.

Let me just say this about that however...

Birther: it vexed Obama so I'm for it

I like people who weren't captured: it vexed McCain so I'm for it

Truther: huh? Trump said that Bush blew up the WTC?

Vaxxer: who the hell knows? If you can solve autism you are wasted on the law.

I don't expect any fairness in your rebuttal, if any, but your abuses won't annoy me. They'll just confirm that you run from the truth wherever you are threatened by it.

mockturtle said...

Chuck retorts: So, you can defend Trump. Have at it! Start with his being a Birther, a Truther and Vaxxer.

And don't look to me for any help in that.


You just don't get it, do you? Trump doesn't need me to defend him and he sure as hell doesn't need YOU!

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Jeff said...

Chuck, I've defended you a few times here, but this is too much. What are you hoping to achieve here? Ann does a post relating something Kissinger says about Trump and you bring up some commentary from public radio?

Public radio??

No one with an IQ above room temperature listens to opinions spouted on public radio. They are utterly predictable liberal baloney. You can't possibly be an intelligent conservative and actually give a shit about anything having to do with public radio.

Yes, Trump has a number of flaws and many of us preferred other candidates in the primaries. But since winning the election, Trump seems to batting, if not a thousand, at least 900. And yet you are still carping. Give it a rest, already. Wait till the man takes office and actually does something wrong before criticizing him.

Unless, of course, the Trumpistas here are right, and you really are just a troll.

Michael K said...

"Few people in American life seem to have had the personal record of vindictive litigation that Trump has had."

Chuck. Chuck. You need an intervention.

Try to calm down and take your meds. I know you don't need them but take them anyway.

tcrosse said...

Madame Blogress, reading comments must be like marking papers.

Drago said...

Jeff: "Chuck, I've defended you a few times here, but this is too much. What are you hoping to achieve here? Ann does a post relating something Kissinger says about Trump and you bring up some commentary from public radio?

Public radio??"

"lifelong republican" Chuck makes ready use of any and every "argument" and talking point that comes out of the lefty media sphere, in particular many of the hardest of the hard left talking points.

Unexpectedly!